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From: "J. G. Row" <


This quilt is the best display of the difference between fast and fugitive

color dyes I've ever seen! No question in my mind, this was supposed to be

a two-color, not three-color quilt.

Well, maybe second best.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ



Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:08:26 -0500

From: "Kris Driessen" <krisdriessen@yahoo.com>

To: QHL@cuenet.com

Subject: Fwd: Re: crockmeter

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>From: "Dr. Elizabeth A. Richards" <Elizabeth.Richards@UAlberta.ca>


>A crockmeter is used in physical testing of textiles (as opposed to chemical

>testing) to tell if fabrics will be fast to dry crocking, wet crocking and

>dry cleaning solvents. The test used is a standard textile test, either a

>Canadian General Standards Board test or the American Association of Textile

>Chemists and Colorists test. A manufacturer would use it to see if his

>textiles met standards for care labelling. A fabric that crocks will stain

>the muslin test piece and the stain is measured by the grey scale, the

>lightness or darkness on the muslin test piece. Ideally textiles shouldn't



>A textile testing lab would have this equipment as a standard piece of

>equipment. Students who would be using this would be learning about

>physical testing of textiles. Our first year students learn to use this

>equipment - and we have a stock of textiles that crock badly so they can see

>"good" results. It is simple to use and a quick test for color fastness to



>Textiles that are pigment printed may be fast to crocking when wet but the

>adhesive used in setting the pigments on to the fabric may dissolve in dry

>cleaning solvent. The white muslin test print will then show staining from

>the pigment removed. This is probably the most common problem I have seen

>when crock testing. Sometimes blue jeans that haven't been washed prior to

>sale (i.e. not stone washed jeans) will crock - both dry and wet - for a few




>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:13:02 -0500

>From: "John Cawley" <cawley@goeaston.net>


> I forgot something very interesting. The Friends were making fun of me

>because I actually took notes on this. We saw a "Crockmeter," a device for

>testing a textile's color fastness to rubbing. It was a wooden device with

>pins for attaching fabric to a piece of wood; a second piece was attached by

>a kind of accordian hinge operated by a handle which when turned rubs the

>top piece against the fabric anchored by the pins. We put a piece of

>bleached muslin down first and then a sample of hand-dyed fabric over it (no

>crocking). The tool had a metal label from "The American Association of

>Textile Chemists and Colorists, Lowell Textile Institute" and a U.S. patent

>#. It was well made, but we had the feeling that it had not been

>mass-produced. Perhaps only enough were made for use by students at the

>Lowell Textile Institute. Curious.

>Cinda on the Eastern Shore where yesterdays snow is melting very fast.


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:28:59 -0500

From: Judy White <jawhite@infi.net>

A friend who is not on the QHL list sent me this because she cannot post

to the list. This site is so interesting, but be sure you have a great

block of time because there are a lot of quilts to see and read about -

if you are not interested in the makers, just look at the photos.



Of largest interest to my quilting friends was this one, "Quilts

and Quiltmaking in America: 1978-1996". While there are beautiful people

and works, this is real world quilting, the kind most like what most of


like to engage in. There may be areas that are different from this, but

this is real home quilting both stories in audio, and really, stories in


To quote from this site,

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/qlthtml/qlthome.html .....................

Quilts and Quiltmaking in America showcases materials from two American

Folklife Center collections, the Blue Ridge Parkway Folklife Project

Collection (1978) and the "All-American Quilt Contest" sponsored by


Home, a division of Lands' End, and Good Housekeeping. Together these

collections provide a glimpse into America's diverse quilting


The quilt documentation from the Blue Ridge Parkway Folklife Project, an

ethnographic field project conducted by the American Folklife Center in

cooperation with the National Park Service, includes 229 photographs and


recorded interviews with six quiltmakers in Appalachian North Carolina


Virginia. These materials document quilts and quilting within the

context of

daily life and reflect a range of backgrounds, motivations, and


sensibilities. The materials presented from the Lands' End All-American

Quilt Contest collection include images of approximately 180 winning


from across the United States. The collection represents a wide range of

quiltmaking, from highly traditional to innovative, and the quilts


exhibit excellent design and technical skill in a variety of styles and


Judy White


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:48:03 -0800

From: "Laurette Carroll" <Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net>

To: "QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com>


Since Cinda has so generously shared her meetings with FVF, I thought I

would share about our quilt study group, Repiecers of the Past, meeting

here in So. California.

Our quilt study group meets in Irvine, in Orange Co., and we have

members from many

miles around, some who drive more than an hour every month to our

meetings. There are about 18 members with about 10-12 at the meetings.

Right now we meet at a church, in a large meeting room.

We meet once a

month, on a Sat. We schedule a topic for every meeting. Last

month the topic was the actual quilting designs in quilts. Several of us

studied up and came prepared to share what we had learned. Those of us

that collect quilts bring any that

are relevant to our study. Those that don't have old quilts, bring new

quilts or books or ephemera, etc. We encourage everyone to share and


Next month we will be studying quilts made in PA. Some of us have

volunteered to take one of the books on PA. quilts and study it and give

a review. We did this program last year and we found that we needed to

spend additional time on it.

One year we did a study on quilts made in certain eras, with a different

era every month.We started in January with quilts from before 1840,

February was quilts 1840-65, and so forth during the year. That was a

great year of study.

We have had a couple of speakers, Barbara Brackman (I talked her into

coming once when she was out here in our area),

Julie Silber, who brought the most beautiful Amish quilts and was very

generous with her time and knowledge, and Sandy White with a wonderful

collection of

children's quilts.

I would like to hear about quilt study groups that any of you might

belong to.

Anyone who lives in the area and wants more information on our quilt

study group, Repiecers, is welcome to email me.

Laurette Carroll

So. California


Look To The Future With Hope


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:36:51 -0000

From: "Sally Ward" <Sally.D.Ward@btinternet.com>

The following query came to the British Quilt List and I offered to post it

to QHL as it is very much more your territory. If anyone can help this lady

her email addy is below.

Sally Ward

> A friend here in the UK asked me to help her research a quilt made

entirely from American Masonic Ribbons, this seems to be unknown here and

knowing nothing about Masons I am doubly in the dark.

> Does anyone know anything about this sort of Quilt?


> Thank you,

> Diana in Hampshire,UK

> diana.baker@virgin.net>



Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:45:14 -0800

From: "Maureen Flanagan" <flanagan@booksandoldlace.com>

Hi all:

There was some discussion on h-quilts about the 1978 set of 4 basket quilt

blocks and the upcoming 2001 commemoratives featuring Amish quilts. If you

are involved with a quilt event this year, such as a show or exhibit, you

might want to ask the US Postal Service to create a special cancellation for

you that could be used in conjunction with the stamp at your event.

The special cancellation typically has some drawing or diagram, and also

text related to the event. There is some lead time required, and some

guidelines for the artwork that you can use. Also, the cancel can only be

used for a limited window before it is destroyed. The Post Office will

generally send out a postal worker to staff a table where the public can get

cancellations and buy postal souveniers. So, you can use it as a money

raiser too, by creating a postcard or cover (illustrated envelope) for the

event that would be sold and taken to the Post Office table for a free

cancel. There is no charge to have the post office create the cancel or to

staff the table at your event. It is really great publicity, something

different, a lot of fun, and draws in another group (philatelists) to your

event. A year or two there was new library commemorative stamp, and

throughout the year libraries all over the country organized special cancels

for their events. It was great fun to collect these cancellations.

You can get more information on special cancellations at your local post

office, and also consult the USPS web site. In the search window, enter

Philatelic Services and you will retrieve .pdf and .txt documents on

Pictorial Cancellations.

If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them off list.



Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:20:12 -0500

From: "Linda Jacks" <ljacks@erols.com>

Are there any quilt study groups in the Northern VA area? I've never

checked with the guilds.

Linda Jacks



Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:50:08 EST

From: KareQuilt@aol.com

From the Quilters Unlimited (VA) electronic newsletter 24 Feb:


5. VALENTINE MUSEUM - Not far from Northern Virginia is the Valentine Museum

in Richmond. This museum has some wonderful quilt exhibits. Check out the

"Better Choose Me: Collecting and Creating with Tobacco Fabric Novelties

1880-1920" exhibit, which ends on April 29, 2001. Or how about the "Fashion

Recycled" exhibit on display through September 3, 2001. It examines the

creative ways quilts and

costumes have been reused, remade, revived, and reclaimed from the late 1700s

to the present. In addition, "women of Taste: A Collaboration Celebrating

Quilt Artists and Chefs" runs from June 8 to November 11, 2001. This unique

exhibit from the Smithsonian pairs national quilt artists with leading chefs

resulting in one-of-a-kind

quilts with a food related focus. It also features the collaborations of

five Richmond chefs and quilters. The Valentine is located at 1015 E. Clay

Street in Richmond. For information, call 804-649-0711.


Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:09:18 EST

From: KareQuilt@aol.com

It is exciting to learn how many others have formed similar grass roots

vintage fabric and antique quilt study groups! In the summer of 1995 Hazel

Carter and Eileen Jordon (Bunny to her friends) came up with a similar idea

here in Northern Virginia, and quilters have been gathering at The Quilt

Patch in Fairfax every other month ever since. We call ourselves "The Fabric

Dating Club" or simply "The Dating Club" for short. (More than one husband

has raised his eyebrow when he saw "Dating Club" penciled in on a calendar!)

There seems to be a core group of about a dozen enthusiastic participants,

but attendance can sometimes range as high as 18-20 with each participant

bringing between 3 & 5 items to share (some of them borrowed). A little

preplanning and organization has been attempted by stating a theme for each

meeting (color themes: blue quilts, red quilts, double pinks, greens,

yellows, black, red & green; chintz, crib, crazy, etc.), thus giving everyone

a chance to do some preparation, if they so desire. Hazel or Bunnie usually

give us a brief synopsis of the theme at the beginning of each meeting based

on reading she has done since the last gathering, and then anyone else who

wants to add something jumps in. We then go around the circle and let each

one show and share. We also talk about any new books we have learned about or

acquired, and occasionally plan a museum or show outing together. IMHO, a

steady diet of viewing and handling a variety of old quilts and fabrics is a

fantastic way to learn how to date quilts! At the least it gives one a chance

to see examples of some fine (and sometimes not so fine) period pieces and to

ask questions, though one only occasionally receives a complete or "final

answer" to the questions raised. As a group we are quite aware that there is

ALWAYS room for further research! The enthusiastic sharing of what knowledge

we do have, however, is exhilarating, stimulating, and very encouraging to

those who want to press on and do more in-depth research on their own. And of

course, we always hope they will bring their findings with them to the next

Dating Club gathering. We also have a growing collection of "photo study

pieces" resulting from this 5 year gathering.

Karen Alexander

Northern Virginia

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:37:40 EST

From: JQuilt@aol.com

you can learn more about the Valentine Museum in VA by going to




Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:20:20 -0500

From: Vivien Lee Sayre <vsayre@nesa.com>


The Museum Of Our National Heritage in Lexington, Massachusetts is a museum

devoted to the Masonic culture. They just had a quilt exhibit of their

Masonic quilts. To contact them have your friend use one of the following:

Write them at: The Museum of Our National Heritage

33 Marrett Road

Lexington, MA 02421

Phone them at: (781) 861-6559 or (781) 861-3991

E-mail them at: info@monh.org

Web site: www.mnh.org


Hope this is helpful,




Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:02:51 -0800

From: quilter@flash.net

i was reading with interest the posts about artists' names printed on the

selvedges, especially the story about hoffman (fabrics printed for oriental

wives) since i was heading up to their company soon and had heard a much

different story. while there i asked about the beginnings of the company

and was told (as i had heard before) that mr. hoffman is a dedicated surfer

who opened his company there because of its proximity to the ocean. there

are surfboards hanging in the warehouse, and a beautiful one crafted from

different woods in the lobby beside a blown-up picture of surfers, one of

which is either him or his son. he did then and still does deal with

hawaiian type surfer prints and his brother handles the other designs of

the company. i specifically asked if their designers are ever credited on

the selvedge and was told they aren't. so for what it's worth, i thot i'd

add this information to the list.

patti in san diego


Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:26:18 EST

From: QultFrFn@aol.com

Patti -- Quilt shops in the very early 80's certainly bought a lot of the

Hoffman 'surfer' prints and early batiks.

The Oriental 'housewife' fabrics I talked about earlier were, yet, another of

their lines...medium florals on wonderful grounds smaller prints. The depth

of color and color variations in those earlier prints must have been very

expensive to produce. Hoffman's printed in the last ten years are still

beautiful, but no where match those very early florals for rich detail and

color variation.

Nancy in lovely, sunny, AZ


Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:27:27 -0600

From: "Susan Wildemuth" <ksandbcw@geneseo.net>

To: <QHL@cuenet.com>

I am looking for contact information for Helen Ericson of Mrs. Danner's

Quilts Fame of Emporia, Kansas. I just aquired some old and newish Mrs.

Danner paper items and I'd like to talk with her a little about them. Does

she belong to this list? If so please contact me.

I have all of Averil Colby's quilt/quilt related books, but I am wondering

if there is a book that deals with her background history/life and how she

became interested in quilts. I know she has passed so I know I cannot

contact her to ask these questions myself. Maybe one of the QHL members from

England could help with this request or could point me in a direction.

Thanks -- Sue


Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:57:25 EST

From: JQuilt@aol.com

fun place to go for some historical quilts




Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:08:08 EST

From: JQuilt@aol.com

if you go to


it's a site of A Guide to Publicly Held Quilt Collections in the State of


you could get lost there for hours..




Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:07:03 -0500

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrow@rcn.com>

Recrently Michael Mrowka posted to the Quilt Art list bragging about his

wife, Debra Lunn. I have his permission to forward the post to our QHL.

This should be of interest to anyone writing about the last 25 years of


His post to me included an invitation to anyone interested in interviewing

Debra for more information to call their 800 number.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ


>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:30:03 -0500

From: "Lunn Fabrics Ltd" <redant@lunnfabrics.com>

Subject: Re: Computers First Used in Art Quilts

Hi all,

With all this talk of computers and quilts I wanted to mention/brag on my

wife Debra Lunn (aka debra millard from a past life)

Debra was the first quiltmaker to use computers in her quilts 20 years ago.

She used punched cards and no monitor was even possible. The printer

printed 4 values of black plus the paper white for a total of 5 value steps.

Debra hand dyed 64 colors and used the computer to help her rotate blocks.

She still had to color in grids by hand..

Here are a few of those early quilts.. circa 1980




If you look carefully you can see the "block" beneath the other "color"

information. These quilts are 2-3 layers of information intersecting on 1


The computer did the rudimentary job of rotating and repeating patterns

faster than Debra could experiment by hand. When she found block/rotation

sequences that pleased her she added color with her hand dyes.

Interesting that years later with the faster computers and printers with

colorfast pigment/dyes we have moved back to hand production.

Michael Mrowka for Lunn Fabrics