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  Date: Wed, 4 Jul 200

1 22:11:02 -0400

From: "J. G. Row" <Judygrow@rcn.com> That Mariner's Compass Quilt on E-bay is a sister quilt to the one in England, which had its outer border taken off at some time. The dark fabric is not a black, but a very deep indigo. I know as I was the underbidder at the auction in Crosswicks NJ last October where gb-best bought it. She has it listed as being made in Pa???????? I don't know about that, but I don't think so. It had been in the Gertrude Brick collection in Crosswicks for a long, long time! I have the paperwork saved from all the times gb-best has had it up on e-bay. (It is all upstairs and my knees won't let me do the stairs too often) As I recall the first time it didn't meet reserve at $18,000. The second time it didn't even reach $10,000.

 It is a glorious quilt, in wonderful condition. I've got lots of photos of it from the pre-auction exhibition. And..... I am well into reproducing it. One of our list members duded up the design for me on EQ4. I don't know if she wants her name put about, so when she reads this if she cares to she can post to the list about it. 

She also told me that Mary Gormley from Lincoln NE (?) made her own reproduction of the Bath quilt years ago and it is spectacular. I'd love to see it, but I am not sure I want to until mine is finished. It takes (5) 19.75" whole compasses set in 22.75" blocks, 4 half and 4 quarter compasses, and over 480 something half square triangles -- just more than is in one package of 2" Thangles. It took me until last month to find an indigo that would have approximately the same look as the original, and I am still not entirely happy with my choice, but there is nothing else out there. Also, the original quilt has the compasses set into a very tiny print fabric, and all the other lights are a very white white, and besides a pin dot, this fabric was hard to find also. This has to be done and quilted by next June 2, as it will be my son's wedding present. He asked for a Mariner's Compass quilt long, long ago. There isn't much fancy quilting -- just a few feather motifs, very small, in the block corners, and not much else besides outline quilting. If I can make the applique presentable -- not my strong point -- I should have it done by then. Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrow@rcn.com

-- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 200

1 22:03:19 -0400

From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com> It was a QHL mini-convention at the DAR today for Nancy Gibson's quilt study program on patriotic quilts (after all yesterday was July 4). Fran's Vintage Friends were well represented (they were planning a very full day: the MD Historical Society Baltimore Album exhibit in the afternoon and Newbie's talk on quilt preservation in the evening). Newbie herself was there; the first time we have met in real, as opposed to cyber, space. Stella Rubin, Phyllis Twigg, Nancy Kaufman...a very knowledgeable group. 20 As always, Nancy Gibson held us spellbound for 90 minutes as she showed us the treasures of the collection and shared her enormous knowledge of quilts. The earliest was a medallion quilt made by "a niece of Ethan Allen" (our British friends may not know that Ethan Allen was the leader of the Green Mountain Boys of Vermont during the late unpleasantness with King George III). 

Sadly, there is no further info about the maker. I haven't gotten my books organized after the move, so I'm probably not going to be able to refer you to pictures. The most notable feature of this quilt is an applied dimity ruffle, original to the late 18th century quilt. The lined top made by the widow of Francis Scott Key, mariners compasses enclosed in piping, is a catalogue of circa 1840 fabrics. The compasses are surrounded by hundreds of half square triangles in scrap fabrics. I should remember the name of the woman from Frederick, MD who made a reverse applique quilt for each of her 11 grandchildren, but I don't. I do remember how amazing those quilts are. The DAR exhibited most of them in the early 90s and now have many in the collection. Nancy showed us four today. Two had eagles in the centers surrounded by chintz applique (quite wonderful and very patriotic). 

The other two were floral appliques, bouquets created from cut out chintz, in pristine condition with colors as vibrant as the day the quilts were made. Remeber, all of these quilts are made in reverse applique. I was very excited to see a coverlet exhibited in 1864 at the Brooklyn, NY Sanitary Commission Fair. It's basically a flag with a beautiful painted eagle in the center. I should have taken notes (but I would have had to take my eyes off the quilts to do that) so that I could tell you the names, but I do remember that the son of the maker was a well-known professional artist who painted the eagle for his mother. Great news from Stella Rubin! She has written a book to be published in August. The title is Treasure or Not and the subject is how to develop a discerning eye for quilts, a kind of Good, Better, Best as Israel Sack did for furniture. Stella promised to send me an order form; I'll share the info when I get it. Since I now live 50 miles farther away from the western shore (that's where all the cultural stuff is) I couldn't go to Baltimore to hear Newbie's talk. Maybe she will fill us in. I hope so. Cinda on the Eastern Shore

-- Date: Sun, 8 Jul 200

1 12:10:18 EDT From: Edwaquilt@aol.com 

I have not been able to find the actual 7 point symbol of the Cherokee Nation but did find a copy of a Thesis Abstract written by Marilyn Y. Gore. I am not sure of the date of this but believe it is late 70's or early 80's when she wrote it. It was for her Thesis at Howard University School of Human Ecology. Title is "A Historical Study of American Quilts" Designhs from North Carolina from 1660 to 1976. I quote from this. (Section for Mrs Mary U. Chiltoskey) Mary U. Chiltoskey is a resident of Cherokee County, which is the Cherokee Indian Reservation.......... 

Mrs. Chiltoskey designed the "Cherokee Star" as a symbol of her heritage. She wrote: I worked this patterhn, using the idea of the Seven-Pointed star used by the Cherokee Indians. Each point of the star represents one of the ancient clans. (The clan system was broken up at the time of the Cherokee Removal during 1835 to 1838.) The star should be placed in the quilt so that no one point is higher than all the others, because no one clan was more important than any other." I have an illustration of the Cherokee National 7-point star somewhere and will find it eventually. Holice

-- Date: Sun, 8 Jul 200

1 21:30:58 -0400

From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com

No, I'm not running ads in the singles column, I spent the afternoon at Hazel Carter's Vintage Fabric Studies Group, the Dating Club for short. The theme for today was quilts of the 1900 decade. This is a period which certainly approaches the nadir of American quilt making, but the choice of topic proved that everything is interesting when approached with enthusiasm. Hazel reviewed the characteristics of the period: redwork, scarcity of applique and fancy quilting, two color quilts (red and white, blue and white), cadet blue, maroon (claret), shirtings, and then people began pulling quilts out of bags and pillowcases. 

There was nothing to change my mind about the general decline in quality of quilts in this period, but there were lots of examples of what was typical--always helpful to those of us concerned about dating quilts. 20 Once we paid our dues to the early 20th century the real goodies appeared: a four patch Whig Rose in red, green and pumpkin, an exquisite oak leaf and reel circa 1830 made from a lovely large scale blue floral and, believe it or not, a Baltimore Album quilt as beautiful as any hanging right now in the Maryland Historical Society exhibit. 

The most intriguing thing about this quilt (by the way it's in great condition) is that it has characteristics of Designers II and III (read Lavish Legacies if you don't know what this means) and some elements that were really puzzling. There are ruched flowers, reverse applique, chenille embroidery, most motifs are outlined with wool buttonhole stitches, stems and leaves are embellished with stitches that resemble thorns, much of the applique is stuffed almost to bursting (not just flowers, but whole urns and vases), some of the flowers are decorated with a metallic gold thread. This is a very high-style quilt, but not reminiscent of Mary Simon, and while the wool embroidery reminds one of Designer III there is nothing "folky" about it.

 I thought the most interesting quilt we saw was a whole cloth (c. 1830-40) in a most curious fabric. The design is toile-like except that it is two colors (blue and buff) rather than a single color on the background. The scene is a boar hunt with riders in vaguely European uniforms on horseback and others in an equally vague oriental costume on elephants. There are some extremely fierce hounds and the boar is bleeding blue blood while a lance hangs from his side (not conducive to sweet dreams, if you want my opinion). The repeat is relatively short (maybe 20 inches). Does this sound familiar to anyone? Can you think of a better way to spend an afternoon? Cinda on the Eastern Shore who hasn't told you all the good stuff because life is too short.  

- Date: Mon, 09 Jul 200

1 20:51:23 -0600

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net

If you are going to be in the Indianapolis area this week I urge you to check out Quilt America, open once again at the Indiana Convention Center, Hall F (see below for location). The exhibits and merchant area will be open from 10am to 5pm Thursday, Friday, and Saturday (no Sunday hours). Rita Barber, the new producer, promises over 4000 quilts on display, including some spectacular antique quilts from the collection of Mary and Joe Koval of Pennsylvania. And Friday evening (that's Friday the 13th!) is the annual Block Party and auction, where wonderful donated items are sold to support free mammograms (since 1990, area imaging facilities have received almost $79,000 from events at the show itself, and $122,000 has been donated nationally through the "Yes Mam!" Mammogram Project.) 

This is the longest-running mammogram support project by quilters in the country, I think. At last year's auction Sara Miller of Kalona, IA (yes, she of the Amish crib quilts discussed here recently) bought a wonderful sampler quilt top made by the Patoka Valley Quilt Guild (Indiana). Over the winter she invited her friends, including Susie Ropp, Marge Slabaugh, Tanya Gelement, Calra Miller, Marie Shalla, Judy Martin, Marianne Fons, Marti Michell, Bettina Havig, Liz Porter, Ruth Yoder, Barb Weaver, andDorothy Bond, to help quilt it. You know at least a few of these quilters, and the quilt is beautiful! Stippled to death, and signed by all who helped. Sara has now donated the quilt BACK to Quilt America to be auctioned as a finished piece. Someone is going to go home with that wonderful piece of quilt history - and it could be you! The auction begins at 7pm in the White River Ballroom of the Indiana Convention Center at 1000S. Capitol, in downtown Indianapolis across from the Westin Hotel and the new Marriott. Everyone is welcome - come and bid! Xenia (no longer affiliated, but an avid supporter nevertheless)

-- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 200

1 22:02:52 -0400

From: "Judi" <jlgunter@home.com> To: 

I am beginning to compile a list of all quilt and needlework magazines and when they were first published. Also I am interested in the naming of quilt patterns, their origins, and historical background during the time they were most popular. Would anyone on the list be able to direct me to some resources on these topics? Judi Gunter Sunny Maryland jlgunter@home.com

-- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 200

1 12:19:29 -0400

From: deboraclem@mindspring.com 

My apologies if this is a repeat, I tried to send this message a couple of days ago and have never seen it appear. In fact I haven't received a digest in a couple of days either. I'm trying to find information on the types of frames that would have been used in the mid-19th century. What would have been most prevalent - the type that hang from the ceiling (like my grandmother used) or would they have been propped up on chair backs? HOw would they have been constructed? Finally, when did hoops come into use? Are hoops a more modern phenomena or could they have been used during the time frame of my study (mid-19th century)? I hope these questions make sense, I can't figure out any other way to word them. So if anyone has any ideas of places for me to begin my research I would be most appreciative. TTFN, Debbie in GA

-- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 200

1 17:51:44 +0100

From: MARK POWER <mpower@coventry.ac.uk>

 Dear Q's, 

I've recently been following a discussion list re: the Vietnam war. Most of the contributors are vets or historians. I asked if there was a tradition of protest quilts, both pro and anti the war, and whether anyone had come across any fabric arts whilst there. One reply described seeing some embroidery depicting shootings on sale in a market. A couple of people mentioned fabric art by the Hmong people, describing it as very rich and impressive. I was also given a URL to visit which shows some of this art. I can pass it on to anyone interested. Can anyone recommend a good 'revisionist' history of garment workers and seamstresses in 19th and 20th C, the Triangle fire and that kind of thing? I've come across one called !A Bobbin. a Needle, A Strike". Does anyone know of any others? Regards, Mark

-- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 200

1 13:56:33 EDT From: Palampore@aol.com 

To: QHL@cuenet.com (Quilt Heritage List) I had a lady call and ask how to check and see if her quilts had chiggers. She had taken them to Bible School for a program where they were layed over hay. Later they found that the hay bales were filled with chiggers. This was truly a new one for me! I suggested that she seal them in a plastic bag for a couple of weeks to see if there was any fracous left in the bags. They are 1900

- 1950 quilts. I really didn't want to suggest a bug spray. The only thing I know about chiggers is that if we get one on our body we put nail polish on it to smother it. Your help would be most appreciated. Thanks, Lynn Lancaster Gorges, Historic Textiles Studio, New Bern, NC

Date: Fri, 13 Jul 200

1 18:59:41 +0000

From: Bobbie Aug <qwltpro@uswest.net>

 To: Palampore@aol.com What I do is put the quilt in a plastic bag. Seal and freeze for 48 hours. Remove from freezer and let sit for 48 hours and then put back into the freezer for 48 hours. Some do this over a shorter or longer period of time, but this 48 hours cycle seems to work best for me. The insects go into a hibernation state and then are "shocked into spring" and then when they are coming "alive" you refreeze them and they die. Bobbie Aug 

-- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 200

1 19:07:18 +00


From: Bobbie Aug <qwltpro@uswest.net> Mark, I just returned home from teaching at the Vermont Quilt Festival and touring New England afterwards. The "Bobbie" book I may have seen while at the Lowell Textile Museum, or the Boot Textile Museum, or the Boot Mill Girls Boarding House Museum at Lowell. Certainly, I came home with many textile history books - the early 1800's and the mill industry - as I am always interested and I am also currently researching early fabrics used in quiltmaking. Good luck! Bobbie Aug

-- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 200

1 22:44:23 -0400

From: Newbie Richardson <pastcrafts@erols.com>

 Lynn, et al, There are 2 safe ways to rid any textile of any umwanted insects and larvae. Either freeze or microwave - both are SAFE! There have been studies done and published in the AIC (American Inst. of Conservators) Textile sub group "Post Prints". For large textiles, as quilts, place in locker style freezer for 48 hours, remove and let warm for 24 hours. Repeat. any eggs/insects will not survive. Vaccuum well afterwards. No it will not get damp, as it is not in there long enough and you shoud wrap it in a sheet/muslin anyway. To microwave, place in the oven with a small cup of water (to prevent dehydration) microwave on high for 5 minutes. (You all know what happens to chicken eggs in the microwave, well larvae doesn't have a chance!) No critter will survive. This, too, is safe, as tested on pieces of Civil War era wool and South American weavings. Newbie Richardson Past Crafts Alexandria, Va.

-- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 200

1 10:16:14 +0100

From: "Sally Ward" <Sally.D.Ward@btinternet.com

I don't know what a chigger is, sorry <G>, but can anyone tell me if these methods work on moths eggs and other larvae, which are a more common problem in the UK?. I can get to a large chest freezer, but are we talking large industrial microwave ovens? All I have access to is small domestic microwave ovens - can the quilt just go in folded and a tight fit, like into a suitcase, or is there any danger of burning on the folded edges? Sally W

-- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 200

1 09:26:20 EDT From: @aol.com

 I am going to Wales for a hiking trip in three weeks. Among the places we'll be visiting are Dolgellau, Conwy, and Harlech. I know that Wales has a strong quilting tradition, and wondered if any of the UK members know of any quilt or fabric shops in these three towns. I'm particularly interested in Conwy and Dolgellau, since my group is scheduled to have some shopping time there. Thanks in advance. This is the trip of a lifetime for me, and I can hardly wait! Karen Evans

- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 200

1 19:28:57 -0700

From: "M. Geiss-Mooney" <mgmooney@home.net

Please check out the National Park Service "Conserve-O-Gram" pamphlet number 3/6 "An Insect Pest Control Procedure: The Freezing Process" which is available for free at the following web address: http://www.cr.nps.gov/csd/publications/conserveogram/cons_toc.html 

You can't just stuff a king-size quilt into a small freezer (or microwave) and expect the process to work, thereby lulling you into thinking the insects have been stopped. For example, your chest freezer also generally must maintain a sub-zero temperature without having a heat-up cycle (which is what a frost-free freezer does). etc. etc. Check out the pamphlet for all of the details! 

And take a look at all of the other free pamphlets that are also available from the same site; for example, 1/6 Choosing a Vacuum Cleaner for Use in Museum Collections; 2/4 Dichlorvos (Vapona) Update; 3/9 Anoxic Microenvironments: A Treatment for Pest Control (as an alternative to freezing or micro-waving); 16/1 Causes, Detection and Prevention of Mold and Mildew on Textiles; 16/2 Dry Cleaning Museum Textiles. If you are unable to access the website, let me know as I already have printed copies of them all. Meg Geiss-Mooney Quilt/Textile Conservator Petaluma, California


-- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 200

1 22:59:28 -0400

From: "KYRA E HICKS" <KHICKS1@prodigy.net

To: <QHL@cuenet.com> I am interested in learning about the mechanics for conducting a Quilt Day to document quilts in the local community. Can anyone help by pointing out any books or particularly good articles on the topic? 20 Thanks -20 Kyra Hicks

-- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 200

1 22:16:54 EDT From: Palampore@aol.com 

I had to laugh when I pulled up my email tonight. What a stir I created by asking about chiggers!! For those of you who don't know what chiggers are..... A chigger is a harvest mite. It is a tiny red creature (hence the 2nd name-red bugs) which creeps into the pores of humans and also into their hair follicles. They inject a saliva in order to feed. (It sounds like a mosquito, but the itch stays around much longer.) This saliva creates the itching. ((World Book) 

They are found in the west and the south. Really very annoying---gotten most often when hiking or gardening. I apologize that I didn't mention my hesitation to mention freezing to the woman. I know about freezing items but in some recent reading (which I can't find the literature now that I need it...) there was concern that the typical freezers we have are really not sufficient to do the job for they don't maintain low enough constant temperatures. (There is a chest freezer that Sears carries which will do the trick, I think.) I do believe that they said that in some cases with carpet beetles the freezer might even assist their mating/egg development---whatever. I seem to think that this was an artilce regarding freezing Oriental rugs. 

Anyway.... I didn't recommend freezing to the lady for she had 5 quilts and limited freezing space. It is also something that I also do not recommend readily to people who know nothing about textiles. It is a very lengthy process. I offered to evaluate them in person, for a fee, but she didn't want to do that. Since she didn't want that I knew that she wasn't interested in paying me to freeze them. I guess I was hoping that "you" could offer me a quick fix. I wonder how doctors feel when they turn down patients because they can't/won't pay. And I think the can't/won't are the opportune words here. Meg, I am most anxious to look up the sites you suggested! Thanks to all of you for your input and interest. 

But I must bust Newbie, since she is my buddy.....Where in the world can I get a microwave oven which will hold a quilt??? A turkey maybe, but not a quilt. Newbie, it was a priceless visual...... What a great group, Lynn in New Bern, NC    

-- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 200

1 06:34:25 -0400

From: Newbie Richardson <pastcrafts@erols.com>

 To: Sally.D.Ward@btinternet.com Sally, Using themicrowave for textiles is dictated by the size of the piece. You do not want to crowd the piece as you really need the small cup of water to keep the hydration at normal. The textile will not "burn", the microwave causes the molecules to "shake, rattle, and roll" and brings the inside of each molecule to "boiling" - thus releasing any moisture in the process. This is hardly the scienfific explanation, but the analogies work for me! Newbie

-- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 200

1 08:47:46 -0400

From: Mary Worrall <worrall@pilot.msu.edu> As a part of the Michigan Quilt Project, the Michigan State University Museum has put together a packet on how to run a documentation day. We provide it to guilds and others who are interested in conducting MQP documentation.   Mary Worrall Cultural Collections Assistant

-- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 200

1 07:03:44 -0700

From: "Penni Ryan" <penniquilts@home.com> How old is the Double Wedding Ring Block? I believe that it is from the 30's but I wonder if it was ever any other name before that time. Thank you.

-- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 200

1 09:32:38 -0600

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net> The earliest date Barbara Brackman gives for this design in her Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns is 10/20/1928 in Capper's Weekly. Xenia

-- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 200

1 10:50:25 -0400

From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" < Robert Bishop in his excellent 1989 book Romance of the Double Wedding Ring Quilt (out of print) goes into detail about the origins of the pattern. Although some say the pattern originated in the 19th century, Bishop reports he has seen none dating earlier than the late 1920's and no references in print until that time. However, others report seeing 19th century examples which were more likely called &quot;The Rainbow&quot; or &quot;Endless Chain&quot; (although no print references have been found and none of these quilts are dated). 

Bishop repeats a great deal of Bonnie Leman's comments about the DWR in the June '78 issue of QNM and all the responses she received to it. I suggest you read the entire introductory chapter in his book to get a feeling for all the controversy surrounding the origins of the quilt pattern - in the end, you still aren't sure when it originated but one fact that no one disputes is that it wasn't overly popular until the 1920's and 30's. Bishop does show a DWR candlewick spread dated 1897 and points out that a similar pattern was used in woven coverlets, which provided inspiration for some quilt patterns.<br> <

-- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 200

1 11:28:26 -0600

From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net

To: QHL@cuenet.com Judy K reminds me that I have a bedroom set with chenilled overlapping circles in blue, probably from the 1930s. But the fabric on which the pieces are worked (drapes, 2 dresser scarves) is early 19th century linen, with initials and household inventory number worked over ONE thread in tiny cross stitch. Looks like a single sheet was separated at the center seam to make the draperies, and the ends cut off to make the scarves. And I also have a candlewicked white spread dated 1853 with some overlapping circles, although not the main design. Xenia