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Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:25:22 EDT
From: Trimble4aol.com

Hi all,

I am back from a week in Missouri, and (as soon as the laundry's 
done) headed 
for Florida for another week. But I had to ask a question of you all 
(y'all)...while in Missouri I came across a nice, scrappy little 
Depression-era quilt. Picked it up and unfolded it and, lo and 
behold, there 
was a label sewn on in the lower right hand corner indicating that 
the quilt 
had been entered in the 1930 Sears Century of Progress show. The 
included pattern name, quiltmaker's name, address, and value placed 
on the 
quilt if it were to be sold (a third of what I bought it for!) Well, 
do I 
need to tell you that I fell in love, there and then? It is now en 
route to 
me (entrusted to the USPS), and I am really tickled about it. 

My question is, it is remotely unusual to find quilts with this 
label on them? I had none of my reference books with me, and am too 
worn out 
tonight to go hunt for the information on that show (I do remember 
discussion of it recently on QHL), so I don't remember the 
particulars of 
that show. I just thought it was especially neat (to use a lofty, 
technical term).

It's simple, scrappy, and quite cheerful (I too love that period), so 
I would 
like it without it's "birth certificate", but I thought it was kind 
special. Any thoughts?

Thanks for your input, and for tolerating my rambling this evening!

Lori in muggy Massachusetts


Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:30:05 EDT
From: Trimble4aol.com
In a message dated 8/18/01 9:59:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Hazelmaccaol.com writes:

<< Another consideration that we had to think on during the earlier 
crisis - 
these people whom you may consider 'slaves' (we could never 
it was slave labor from the companies nor from our own government) 
were not 
making these quilts, what would they be doing? If women no doubt 
they would 
become prostitutes.
It is a sad note to end on but have been down this road years ago 
during the 
Smithsonian crisis.

I agree. While I do hate seeing these imports, I have to wonder if 
makers are earning living wages in the countries in which they live? 
$2 a day (just an arbitrary figure) is less than a pittance to us, in 
countries it's not all that bad, certainly better than nothing. 

I do not mean to imply that I condone sales of these things, but 
there is a market for them or stores would not be marketing them. It 
indeed abhorrent to most of us, but is no more than the difference 
hot dogs and chateaubriand for many people.

Just my thoughts...



Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:06:40 -0400
From: Paul and Nancy Hahn <phahnerols.com>

The discussion about Yvonne Khin's book brings back memories of a
pleasant trip a group of 5 quilters made about 8-10 years ago to
Yvonne's "Quilt Barn" in the Thurmont, Maryland area. I think we 
in the local paper that she and her husband had moved up to that area
and were holding a quilt exhibit of their collection in a restored
home/barn. (Memories are alittle vague). The 5 of us were the only 
there at the time, but both the Khins escorted us about the Quilt 
and explained where each quilt was acquired or why they made it. I 
to remember Mr. Khin was also involved in quilting. They also had a
number of items on display made of feedsack fabrics and took turns
reading to us the poem about underwear made from feedsacks, which 
both found amusing. They also showed us many beautiful oriental-type
fabrics from their homeland and some contmporary patchwork they 
with these fabrics. It was a very insightful day that these lovely
people provided for 5 quilters in a van who arrived on their 
Thanks for bringing up the Khins' names and reminding me of that
wonderful experience. Does anyone know if the Khins are still in the
Thurmont, Maryland area?

Nancy Hahn


Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:49:00 EDT
From: Trimble4aol.com

Good morning all,

A kind member of this list suggested I contact Merikay Waldvogel 
about the 
1930 quilt I just purchased...does anyone have an email address for 
her? Is 
she on this list? 

Will appreciate any help!

Lori in foggy Massachusetts

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:53:55 -0400
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawleydmv.com>
To: "
I too enjoyed the responses to Addy's question. The Blind Man's 
Fancy from Quilts of Western New York (I love that little catalogue) 
is =
amazing. The Mary P. Allen Album Quilt is particularly interesting =
because of the T-shape (cut-out corners), unusual in a PA quilt.
I'll tell you what I'm doing in the dog days of summer. Phyllis 
Twigg is curating an antique quilt exhibit for the PA Extravaganza in 
September. The theme is heavily quilted quilts. I am delighted that 
she is including a Colonial Ladies, circa 1930, from my collection 
which =
has lots of super quilting and represents that aspect of the first 
great =
quilting revival of the 20th century. I am putting a sleeve and a 
new =
label on the quilt. Apropos of nothing, it is extraordinarily large 
(93x111") for the era before king-size beds.
Project #2 is sewing the binding on a quilt inspired by a circa 
1865 =
Berks County PA Four- Patch Diamond on p. 55 of Nancy Martin's Thread 
of =
Time. I made no effort to match the fabrics; I only tried to capture 
the =
"look." I used my favorite Ely Walker double pink and a chrome 
yellow =
as background for 4-patches made from every off-beat repro I could 
find. =
There's a lot of the first Pilgrim/Roy line in the quilt.
Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:03:01 EDT
From: QultFrFnaol.com
Your oversize quilt interests me. Many old farms in the South had 
oversize beds in the last of the 19th and early part of the 20th c. 
children were meant to sleep in each bed.

Could be your 93" X 111" quilt was made for a similar 'farm' bed.
Nancy, AZ


Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:36:49 -0400
From: "Grayson Deborah" <deborahgmindspring.com>

In my research I have come across a number of references to quilts -- 
particularly the fabric quilts are made from -- evoking memories of 
places, history, ancestors. I am really interested in quilts that 
been discussed in terms of having or releasing spiritual and or 
properties. I am doing this study within an African American 
context but am interested in other examples of this 
phenomenon. Does anyone have any suggestions for places to look, 
to share etc.? Obviously I have used Roland Freeman's work among 




Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:28:46 -0500
From: Gail Ingram <GIngramtcainternet.com>

It is deeply August here in North Louisiana. The days have shortened 
and the
light is that melancholy light that spells the beginning of the end 
summer. Lonesome, unsettling weather when folks lose focus. Neither 
students nor I was ready for school, but today school began.

As a final fling on my last "free" weekend: I read straight through 
Quilts & Quilters" (Brackman, Chinn, Davis, Hornback, Farley, 
Thompson). I
knew every chapter well, but I had never read them in order. I 
intended the
reading to summarize my summer's learning and experience with 

It did that, but it also did more: it reminded me what independent 
tough-minded scholars Kansas has given the nation in the past several
decades. The authors of these essays had done what often seems
impossible---taken sharp critical looks at history without losing 
sight of
its personal and emotional content and implications.Like that of many
members of this forum, my first reading about quilting was in highly
sentimental material. I don't regret that. I still love Rose Wilder 
chapter on quilts in "Woman's Day Book of Needlework," for instance, 
even as a twenty-year-old, I yearned for a more critical, systematic
study--i.e., a more complete study---of something I sensed had 
cultural and historical significance.

"Kansas Quilts & Quilters" reminded me that daughter of the Deep 
though I am, my own path of discovery and understanding of quilts has 
lighted by Kansas women and scholars. These essays are models of 
and inquiry. I marvel, for instance, at the manner in which Jennie 
clearly reasoned and carefully researched "African American 
Traditions: Some Assumptions Reviewed" models an approach to an area 
deserves considerable reconsideration.

Quilt scholar-historians like the ones whose work appears in this 
book have
enlarged the boundaries of historical and cultural studies in the 
past 30
years. What this book demonstrates is that they have also modeled a 
kind of
scholarship that deserves more general attention and emulation at 
like that of the American Historical Association. A female professor 
told me, "It is REAL hard, honey, to be both a scholar and a lady." I 
she were alive to read "Kansas Quilts & Quilters" and the body of
scholarship it focuses and draws upon.

We really have come a long way, haven't we?

Gail Ingram


Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:18:14 -0500
From: "Sehoy L. Welshofer" <slw4quiltshome.com>

Lori - you've probably had this answered a dozen times, but here's 
address (a fellow Tennessean): quiltaliveaol.com

Sehoy Welshofer

Visit Web Threads, the Newsletter for Net Savvy Quilters at:


Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:25:31 -0500
From: "Susan Wildemuth" <ksandbcwgeneseo.net>

Have you come across the Harriet Power Bible quilts in your research? 
are beautiful and "double" storied. There is the story/stories 
in each quilt and then there is the story of how we still have these 

Sue in Illinois

Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:13:47 -0500
From: Bettina Havig <bettinaqcsocket.net>
I served as director of the MO documentation project and in all the 
that we documented for the MO project we saw none with such a label. 
our emphasis at the time was on 19th C. we did see quite a number of 
20th C.
and none bore such a label. Indeed, Merikay or Barbara Brackman may 
some idea about the label. We did not provide any such labeling for 
that we documented in MO. I am wondering how the label was made, how
attached and how authentic? There were a great many MO quilts 
entered in
the contest so I can't help but speculate that we might have seen 
such a
label if they were provided widely to the entrants. Now you have 
piqued my
Bettian Havig

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:06:27 -0500
From: "Karen S Bush" <Birdsongworldnet.att.net>

Sorry, I haven't posted forever. I'm going thru a messy divorce, 
me and didn't know this was going to happen. so, I've been alittle 
shall we say.
So, I'm starting a new life at 52 and really, more or less 
enjoying the
thought of a new challenge with my business and with branching out. 
Now that
the tension is gone from home, and I can breathe again, with the help 
GOOD friends and support, I'm going to start Plan A, and if that 
work, A-Z, until I get this business off the ground, once again, 
coming out
of retirement and hand quilting, turning the house into a shop, and 
MORE design work. So, that's it in a nutshell. Just wanted to say 
'hi' and
hope I can participate more in what's going on on this list! :) kb

http://www.karenbushquilts.com - Member of TAS
Richmond/Ray County History Site- member of AHGP & ALHN

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:36:14 -0500
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.coairmail.net>

Good morning to all!
Several years ago while doing an appraisal day at one of the local
historical homesites/societies a quilt was presented for appraisal 
such a tag from the Texas state level. It had on it a green ribbon 
and a
label stating that it had been entered at the state level for the 
Quilt Contest. According to Barbara & Merikay's research, every quilt
entered in the contest received one of these green ribbons and labels
regardless of winning status. It's a great quilt representing the 6
flags that have flown over Texas and has been displayed at the Hall 
State at the Texas State Fair grounds and in the capitol building in
Austin. It did not win any awards in the COP contest, but the
participants ribbon is a cherished possession of the family.
Laura Hobby Syler
in hot, but not so steamy N. Texas

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:31:33 EDT
From: jocelynmdelphi.com
On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:30:05 EDT Trimble4aol.com wrote:

> I agree. While I do hate seeing these imports, I have to wonder if 
makers are earning living wages in the countries in which they live? 

Not always. Sometimes the overseas 'living wage' means that a person 
buy enough food to stay alive (hungry, but alive) and then have a 
bit left over to contribute towards housing- housing that is 
below US standards, not just in the fact that it may lack plumbing 
tap water for cooking or washing; no toilets), but that it may be 
constructed and not weathertight or vermin-tight, and shared by far 
people than typically share a US house.
Even so, if a person is earning a living by working 12-14 hour days, 
in a dimly lit factory, or is punished for mistakes, the argument can 
made that they're being taken advantage of, even if they receive a
'living wage'.


Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:14:18 -0400
From: Lesters <jeanlesterntown.com>

On purpose, I mean! I had some fading powders from a business called 
By Jupiter! in Phoenix, some years back. I have gotten low in my 
supply and the phone number no longer works for them. Does anybody 
know of a source? I use it a lot when repairing old quilts.


Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:54:54 EDT
From: Quilt25aol.com

I would like the answer to this also. I have been searching, but with 

Peg in North Texas

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:23:54 EDT
From: DDBSTUFFaol.com

Hi Everyone;

I need a conservator in or near Santa Rosa, California. Does anyone 
know of someone in that area.



PS; Has anyone called LL Bean yet?

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:07:29 -0700
From: "Ellen King" <>

I went to the local quilting store and they told me that no one has 
this =
product any longer. Does anyone know where I can find it?
Ellen King,
Sacramento, Ca

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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:34:50 -0400
From: Judy White <jawhiteinfi.net>

Lesters wrote:

> I had some fading powders from a business called
> By Jupiter! in Phoenix, some years back. 

The address of By Jupiter! is:

6033 North 17th Avenue
Phoenix, Arizona 85015

Judy White - Ct

If the phone # is out of service, maybe you can write to the address
listed and see what happens. I used to see their advertisements in
magazines such as Threads and Sew News, but I don't subscribe to 
publications any longer so don't know if they are still in business.

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:29:20 -0500
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.coairmail.net>

I've seen it at our local Tom Thumb/Safeway grocery store and at 
Fabrics as well.

Ellen King wrote:

> I went to the local quilting store and they told me that no one has
> this product any longer. Does anyone know where I can find it?
> Ellen King,
> Sacramento, Ca

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:35:51 -0500
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.coairmail.net>

JUdy and all...
That's the same information that I have. I know that the company 
hands several years ago. We did an article on the fading kit in one 
the VQTS newsletters early on. I'd suggest writing to them as well.

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:14:48 -0500
From: "Avalon" <malthausidcnet.com>
Subject: QHL: Dye magnet

While at the Wisconsin State Fair, I was given a sample of a new 
product by
Woolite after having to answer a few questions. It is called Dye 
There are about 24 sheets in the box and you are to use a different 
with each wash cycle. I have received one follow up phone call 
its use. The lady at the fair giving out the samples had never heard 
of the
original product with the same name. When they call again, I will 
about target market date.

Mary in Wisconsin

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:06:57 -0500
From: "Kim Heger" <khegerhotmail.com>

Were you happy with this product?

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:51:15 -0400
From: "Kris Driessen, QuiltBus.com" <oldquiltalbanyweb.com>

My thoughts on Dye Magnet - a great dye magnet is a piece of undyed, 
untreated terry cloth. Because untreated cotton will absorb fugitive 
this plain little piece of cloth will collect all the dye in your 
water. When it is saturated, just bleach it all out and keep using 
it. Old 
well-used white 100% cotton terry washcloths, towels, t-shirts, and 
underwear will work too. One caveat -- it can't be exposed to fabric 
softener. Fabric softener coats the fibers and will interfere with 
ability to absorb dye.


At 09:14 AM 8/23/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Subject: QHL: Dye magnet

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:28:37 -0400
From: "bonnie wilbur" <bonnie.wilburoracle.com>

Last November there was a QHL post on magazines which featured old 
"Next spring Harris Publishing will be redesigning the "Country 
magazine. It will be called "Antique Quilts". You can get 
about it at http://www.quiltmag.com" and suggesting the first issue 
would be
out in April.

Well, this site has never had information on this magazine, and I 
seen it for sale. Has anyone else?

Bonnie (Northern Virginia)

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 02:04:41 EDT
From: KingsCalicoaol.com
Deborah....regarding your question on quilts that carry a spiritual 
essence....Have you researched Hawaiian quilts? I am no expert, but 
I seem 
to remember reading that the Hawaiians felt that the spirit, or mana, 
of the 
maker was retained in the quilt. Maybe someone else on the list has 
information or a resource source for this?


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:02:13 +1000
From: "Quiltstuff" <satkinspowerup.com.au>

Hi all,
I finally have to ask a question.
I know spellings vary between Australia and the US ( eg we spell 
colour, you
write color).

But one thing I see a lot in email from the US or on ebay is the 
word "boarder"
as opposed to "border"

In Oz, a boarder is someone who lives in your house or a person that 
boards a

So are these people just bad spellers , or is it an accepted way of 
spelling it
in the US ??

Sorry that this isn't a real history question

Suzy Atkins in Bardon, Brisbane


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:37:07 -0400
From: "bonnie wilbur" <bonnie.wilburoracle.com>

People are either bad spellers, don't know the difference between the
homonyms, or most likely, are bad typists.



Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 06:57:24 -0500
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.coairmail.net>

As an English major, I believe that your first perception is 
The authors must not use their spell check. Otherwise you'd get a 
guest with each quilt!
Laura Hobby Syler
In steamy N. Texas


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:49:13 EDT
From: JQuiltaol.com
boarder is a guest/renter in a house .... someone who receives room 
board(meals)...i would imagine the term board, in this instance, came 
the word board meaning a plank that they probably referred to, in 
days of 
old, as a table...

border means the frame around an object such as a quilt etc....


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:56:15 -0400
From: Vivien Lee Sayre <vsayrenesa.com>
Hi Suzy,

According to the <underline>Oxford American Dictionary</underline>, 

<bold>border</bold> <italic>n.</italic> 1. an edge or boundary, the 
near this, 2. the line dividing two countries the area around this, 
3.an edging, 4. a strip of ground around a garden or a part of it.

<bold>boarder </bold><italic>n.</italic> a person who boards with

Hope this helps.

Vivien Sayre in Massachusetts 


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:31:36 -0400
From: Judy White <jawhiteinfi.net>

"Kris Driessen, QuiltBus.com" wrote:

> My thoughts on Dye Magnet - a great dye magnet is a piece of 
> untreated terry cloth. Because untreated cotton will absorb 
fugitive dyes,

Kris, I had the feeling when I used the original Dye Magnet that it
wasn't so much absorbing fugitive dye as maybe picking up the 
in the water. Any thoughts on that?

Judy White


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:39:53 -0500
From: Gail Ingram <GIngramtcainternet.com>
As an English major, I believe that your first perception is 
The authors must not use their spell check. Otherwise you'd get a 
guest with each quilt!
Laura Hobby Syler
In steamy N. Texas


I've tried all sorts of things to restrain myself from going to 
"quilts" on
Ebay, to no avail. A boarder with each quilt, however, would 
definitely give
me pause! Thanks for the laugh.



Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:46:59 EDT
From: Trimble4aol.com

About this boarder/border thing...while we're on the subject...I 
often see 
"binder" used where I can only use "binding." Anybody else? 

Lori in Massachusetts


Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:47:40 -0400
From: "pepper cory" <pepcorymail.clis.com>
To: "

Hello all-They hauled that chestnut of an episode of HGTV's Simply 
out again last week! I was on (with longer hair and 20 lbs. heavier-) 
years ago but they're still running it. It's the one about quilt 
how to cut your own stencils etc. Some of the resources information 
changed and since the QHL forum has the most informed, quilting-est 
folks ,
I thought I'd get the new info out to you in one message.
The X-Acto Company stopped making the size gouge I used to carve 
stencils but not to worry. Some enterprising company called Bob Corey 
their dies and now makes the gouges and they're available on the Web. 
To get
the U veiner blade in the 3/32" size, go to http://x-actoblades.com , 
to page 2 Blades and down to Gouges. The one to carve quilt stencils 
is the
F Gouge, #x156 and costs $3.50 for a pack of two. The knife I use is 
classic red-handled craft knife. Go to the Knives page and down to 
#3005 and
there it is for only $5.50. No, I don't get a commission! But I sure 
pleased that someone recognized the need for these tools. I would 
have been
up the creek without a paddle!
Quilter's Newsletter will have an article in its upcoming November 
called Make Your own Quilt Stencils with this amended info. But is 
you have
Mastering Quilt Marking, it's all in the book in tedious detail. Many 
to the people who emailed me wanting tool information and I hope this
answers most inquiries.
Cheerio from coastal North Carolina-
Pepper Cory


Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:48:31 EDT
From: Baglady111aol.com

Recently, there was posting about UNDERGROUND RAILROAD quilts. There 
is to 
be an exhibt in Pittsburgh later this year about the Underground 
history at a local history museum. In mentioning the stories of 
supposedly connected to that subject, they are interested in possibly 
one of those quilts to their exhibit. Preferrably, the older the 
better "if 
possible"..but if anyone can point me in the right direction, please 
email me 
at baglady111aol.com

Thank you



Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:23:38 -0500
From: "Susan Wildemuth" <ksandbcwgeneseo.net>

There is an out-of-print publication called "Quilter's (or Quilters)
Journal" and I am hoping to obtain some back issues. It's my 
that these publications were full of quilt history, am I correct? 
Was this
connected to the American Quilt Study Group at one time or do they 
that? I see a lot of citations for this publication, but I have 
never come
across an actual copy. Does anyone know where I could purchase back 
of this publication? I have tried all my usual sources--Hard-to-Find
Needlework Books, E-Bay, Peddler's Wagon, and my list of online used
bookstores--for the last four years and have come up empty. Or if 
rarely come up for sale, does anyone know where I can see one in a 
collection or interlibrary loan through my local library. Would the
University of Nebraska be my best choice for this? I live in 
Illinois and
even our state depository doesn't own any copies of this publication. 
have never heard of it. Was it's circulation small, limited, or 


Sue in Illinois


Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:34:45 -0400
From: Judy White <jawhiteinfi.net>
Hi Susan. The publication you refer to used to be part of the
membership dues to AQSG. The first one I have is dated spring, 1978 
is Vol 1, No. 3 so there two issues before that one. The last one I
have is No. 31 and is dated July 1987. These magazines were 
by Joyce Gross of Miss Valley, CA, and were full of quilt history
regarding old quilts, famous quilters, news of major quilt 
of the period, etc. Some of the contributors were Cuesta Benberry, 
Christopherson, etc.

Since I don't know the whole history of AQSG even though I am a 
I'm not sure how this magazine became associated with the AQSG. I
dropped my membership for a while, and when I rejoined, these 
were not part of the membership dues. I was able to pick up some 
that I didn't have through eBay, but I imagine that the resource 
at the U of Neb would have a complete set.

Judy White - Ct