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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 23:26:02 -0400
From: "Kris Driessen, QuiltBus.com" <oldquilt@albanyweb.com>

I am forwarding this message for Cindy Brick, who is buried in 
right now. Ironically, Cindy just posted a free pattern for a 
Housewife" on her website http://www.cindybrick.com even though she 
been following our discussion.

Dear Robin et al,
I can tell you, as a former staff member of the Quilt Heritage
Foundation, what I know about the Quilt Restoration Society...Camille 
and Nancy Kirk (of QHF) actually co-founded the Society, with Nancy 
the conference and Camille the newsletter. Several conferences were
held...many of us, myself and QHL's ListMom, Kris Driessen, attended 
acted on staff.
I am not sure of exact date right at this moment, but more than 
years ago, Camille and the Kirks (Nancy and her husband Bill) found
themselves disagreeing on the future of QRS...that is when the Quilt
Heritage Foundation was formed, and the Quilt Restoration Society 
split off.
Camille was going to continue it, as well as the newsletter -- Nancy 
Bill would host the Quilt Restoration Conference. Well, the 
Conference has
continued, though in a different form the past few years...as a 
multi-day hands-on event. (In fact, that is happening in a few weeks 
Omaha, NE! Check http://www.kirkcollection.com for more specifics. An
excellent way to learn basic restoration tricks and techniques, 
taught by
one of the masters in the business -- Nancy Kirk herself.)
I had been teaching for the conference, as well as doing some 
writing for
it, and right during this time, Camille asked me to co-edit the 
with her. I was willing, but after asking me, sending me a notebook, 
Camille basically dropped out of sight. She did not return my phone 
calls or
faxes, though I knew they were received. (Her answering machine would 
the call, etc.) I did not have access to the newsletter data, so 
could not
do the work I had said I would.
Months passed. I saw Camille again at the QHL Conference in 
NY, which the Driessens hosted. She showed me, at that time, the 
pages of the next issue of the newsletter, which she said was going 
to the
printer's right after she got home. She never referred to my duties 
co-newsletter editor; in fact, she had more interest in talking about 
Columbine shootings (those of you who know me know I live about 15 
from that high school) than anything else.
I have not seen, heard from or spoken to her since then...and 
that's been
at least three years. I also never saw any evidence that newsletter 
ever was mailed to anyone. I have heard rumblings that Camille has 
to go out of the professional teaching business, although there are 
now and then that may indicate she is still restoring quilts 
As far as I know, she has not moved from her studio in Hillsdale, NY.
So Robin is correct...there's just been 'nothing' heard about 
QRS. I need
to make clear that Camille retained the rights to use of 'Quilt 
Society,' so it -- and the newsletter -- are her bailiwick. The 
Kirks, in
contrast, are affiliated with the Quilt Restoration Conference, which 
part, along with the Crazy Quilt Society, of the nonprofit Quilt 
Foundation, or QHF.
Just a sad situation...what can I say.
Cindy Brick


Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:18:04 EDT
From: Palampore@aol.com

As for any vintage type soaks I am a bit wary. I have seen several 
of these 
under various names---and some have adorable eye catching packaging. 
Due to 
this I now have in my wet cleaning room a test set up ready to go 
---if I can 
ever slow down long enough to do it. My test area has a non-chlorine 
"vintage" wash set behind a soaking tray with an old stained piece 
of fabric 
sitting in the tray waiting to be soaked for an hour. At that point 
will be rinsed and dried and compared. I will take it a step further 
inspect the fibers with microscopes to examine for changes.One reason 
test has also been delayed is because I was just going to use old 
fabric, but I was recently told that Testfabrics has a fabric with a 
standardized/controlled stain on it that I should use. Need to order 
Anyway....I am testing Staintique, Vintage Fabric Wash, Clorox 2, 
Biz, Borax, 
Hydrogen Peroxide, Tri-Zyme (AmWay),and a few others. (I am at home 
and they 
are at my studio.) Some of these items list their ingredients. 
Those which 
do list ingredients always have listed Sodium Perborate, Sodium 
a 3rd which I can't remember off the top of my head. (Will add 
later.) What 
I am finding from my reading is that these are a variation on the 
theme of 
the chemical make-up of Hydrogen Peroxide. So these companies are 
that they don't alter the fabric since there is not a chlorine in 
them. If 
the color is not altered then they claim there is no change. 
So.....if you want to wash King Tut's buriel robe or Martha 
granddaughter's quilts, avoid all of this stuff and go to a textile 
conservator. If you want to hand wash a family christening gown 
consider it. But first of all I would find some yellowed, spotted 
cloth and 
do some test washes to see what the results are. See what it feels 
like wet. 
Check to see if there is a residue after washing the items. Don't 
just jump 
in head first and trust these items. I think they have been tested 
only to 
see if they got out the spot. I am not so sure that the future life 
of the 
items to be washed have truly been considered from a scientific 
I hope to write up my findings when this test is done. Is there a 
magazine out there that you think would be interested in this???
Read labels: 
Amway Phosphate Free Tri-Zyme (pre-soak and detergent booster- Enzyme 
Formula)Caution: Contains sodium sesquicarbonate and sodium 
carbonate. Not 
recommended for silk or wool. Do not use with chlorine bleach. 
But then 
on the other side it says "Cleans ALL washable fabrics." (I guess 
they don't 
consider wools and silks washable- just dry cleanable) "Brighteners 
whiteners in Tri-Zyme help keep your clothes looking clean and 
bright." Also 
states that it removes protein and carbohydrate stains....and more. 
Ultra Clorox 2 - Non-chlorine color safe bleach - Contains: Cleaning 
(surfactant, enzyme), color safe bleach (sodium perborate), water 
(sodium carbonate, sodium silicate), fabric whitening agent and 
fragrance. I 
am going to call their 1-800 to find out what the whitening-agent is. 
I am 
assuming it is a type of blueing.
So now all of you run to your laundry area and begin to read. I 
would love 
to hear from you if you come up with any interesting facts.
Happy washing,
Lynn Lancaster Gorges
Historic Textiles Studio
New Bern, NC 


Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:41:27 EDT
From: Vici47@aol.com

I would like to thank Sue,Xenia, and Beth for all the helpful 
they gave me dealing with documenting family quilts. I have read 
through the 
Boxes Under the Bed web site and there is more information there than 
I was 
hoping to deal with, but I think I will give it a try. I will let you 
how it all turns out. Thanks again,Vicki


Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 20:05:18 -0400
From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdoc@sover.net>

Two years ago, J. G. Row, Barb Garret, Newbie Richardson and myself 
the Cooperstown Textile Conference organized by Rabbit. (And perhaps 
Anyway..) It was more of a lecture series, than a hands on series 
we did get to do a behind the scenes tour of the quilt storage area
of....Hmm, perhaps it was the Cooperstown Museum. That was a lovely
opportunity to see some very old interesting N.Y. state quilts.

The conference, held in the summer, was an equal combination of woven
textiles, which I believe is Rabbit's main focus and quilts. As a 
Cooperstown is just down the road from Hickory Hill Quilts. It was a
pleasure having time to share with Kris at the conference and to 
visit her
shop as well. And no, we didn't go to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Here is Rabbit's e-mail to be put on her mailing list:

Jan Drechsler in Vermont
Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher


Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:06:39 EDT
From: Palampore@aol.com

I am writing this separately in case laundry is a bore to someone who 
sewing kits. As Pepper told you, I have a rather extensive collection 
sewing kits and among the items are housewives. 
There is the cloth type which has been discussed at length. Those 
are made 
of mostly calicos or a wool bunting. These were used by men and 
women. When 
cloth began to be covered with tar this also became a suitable outer 
covering. I have some that are flat and just like the traditional 
ones. Then there is another design which employs a small roll pillow 
at one 
end that is used for various things. It can be used as a pin 
cushion, and I 
even have a couple that a hole has been cut from it to store the 
thimble. I 
have one that is a round tin covered in cloth which acts as a holder 
thread or knitting needles. From the roll extends a flat piece of 
cloth which 
then has a place for needles, thread, etc. It can be rolled onto the 
and tied with the attached cord. 
Soldiers in the Civil War (and probably Mexican War) on up to present 
sewing kits called a "housewife". In World War I and II many were 
issued by 
the government, but many were given to them by the Red Cross and by 
advertisers. Liquor companies gave lots of them to soldiers. There 
several variations on the theme for these. Do soldiers still carry 
a sewing 
kit? I need to check on that.
I guess I have another article to do.......
I also collect sewing bags that have the needle felts. The bags are 

half-round shape with the felts underneath a cardboard covered piece 
on the 
side which flaps over the felts(or pinked bunting). They have 
which acts as a shoulder strap. I have those spanning about 75 years. 
anyone else have these???? Please write if you do.
Not exactly quilting, but certainly used by the women in order to 
make their 
Off and running to make a sleeve for a quilt.
Lynn Lancaster Gorges
Historic Textiles Studio
New Bern, NC


Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:02:35 -0400
From: Paul and Nancy Hahn <phahn@erols.com>

This weekend I was the lucky receiver of a small overnight-size 
of vintage quilt patterns/ads clipped from the newspapers of the
1930's. They were collected by the mother and aunt of a dear friend 
the Old Order Mennonite community of Lancaster County, PA. Many were 
brown paper bags of local businesses that are no longer in 
Quite a few are packed in individual used envelopes, along with the
cardboard patterns the ladies drafted for the pattern, mostly on the
backs of Corn Flake boxes. I am having more fun opening each small
packet to see what is within!
I am thinking of placing them in either 2 or 4 to a page 
pages and putting them into a binder, similar to my vintage fabrics.
However, the papers smell quite musty. I don't see any mold or 
Is there something I can place in a sealed container with these paper
treasures to get rid of the odor? Are there other ways to 
such items? Also, is there a listing of this type of quilt patterns
from the 1930's? The ones that do not have the Laura Wheeler or 
Studios name, are just identified by a number. Am I correct to think 
should keep the cardboard patterns with the clippings-the cardboard
squares and triangles are really quilt crude, but I think, for some
reason, they should remain together. Any suggestions?

Nancy Hahn