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Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:41:13 -0500
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@airmail.net>

I can concur with Ann on Goo-Gone and Undo. We sell both at The
Container Store and both work well for removing adhesive residue. If 
cannot find these products, you can also use WD-40...just remember 
they are oil based and need to be washed out accordingly.

Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:14:21 -0400
From: Nancy Manning <nemanning@home.com>

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I decided to wash and dry the
fabric and see what happened before I tried treating it (risky, I
know). Surprisingly, the adhesive seems to be gone, and so does some 
the shinier finish! I will inspect it closer, but it looks pretty 
The other fabric I had similar trouble with was a lavendar cotton 
top from the 40s or 50s. That pinwheel quilt now has a small adhesive
mark embedded in the border.


Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:12:17 -0700
From: "Debbie Guidi" <dlguidi@qwest.net>

Hi everyone,

I am curious - what is the new title to the book done by the 
Wisconsin quilt research project? (Ed; Wisconsin Quilts: Stories in the Stitches)  By the way, I have been lurking for the past month  or so,
so since I have that question, I'd better introduce myself.

My name is Debbie Guidi. I live in Sun City, AZ & have been quilting 
for 15 years. My tastes lean more towards very traditional quilts & I have 
started a very small collection of vintage items, which includes 16 13" 
Sunbonnet Sue blocks from the 30's & approximately 40 butterfly appliques from 
what look like 1920's fabrics along with the original pattern that the 
quiltmaker used to cut them. I do mostly bed-sized quilts, but I like the 
ones, too. I am currently doing a lot of early 1800 & Civil War
reproduction items, so I have really been enjoying the conversations 
on. I like these types so much, that when I had a chance to take a
year-long study course on quilts from 1770-1840 with Eileen Trestain 
my local quilt shop, I jumped at it & it really hooked me!

I also collect, fix and use antique sewing machines. I just finished 
dresden plate quilt for my niece's wedding in 1930's reproduction 
that I pieced, appliqued & quilted on my 1905 Singer treadle sewing 
I have 11 machines, ranging from a German 1880's handcrank all the 
through my new Viking Rose.

Thanks for letting me ramble!

Debbie Guidi


Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:17:02 +0000
From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush11@hotmail.com>

HI everybody! Well, as usual, I'm wayyyy behind reading the posts, 
but, I 
have a question for all of you travelers/teachers,etc. What are you 
to do now that you're not going to be able to take your handwork with 
you to 
the airports/planes??? I was sitting here, meditating life in general 
other night, and thought of this...YIKES!!! The wait is going to be a 
one at the airports to just check in, and, I was wondering about 
this??? kb
Karen Bush
It only takes me One day to get a month behind :/

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:30:30 EDT
From: KareQuilt@aol.com

Hello QHLers!! Back from the AQSG in Williamsburg in one piece, 
albeit with a 
strained neck from lifting two very heavy boxes and the migraine that 
accompanies such abuse to myself <g>, but hey, it's all in the name 
of good 
quilt research fun, right! One box is full of items I bought at the 
(ephemera items, of course, for research…oh yes, and three binders 
repro-fabric swatches!!) and one of photos albums I took to share. 
<g> There 
are so many many stories from the seminar! Maybe I can share them in 
"chapters" so that I don't overwhelm the list, plus I hope others who 
will share their stories too! (Hint, hint!) <g> It was so great to 
meet so 
many of you!! Now if I can just put names and faces together the next 
time I 
see you! <g> (I can remember quilt history better than names! <g>) 
My first 
story is about how we quilters can impact the staff of the hotels we 
meet in. 
Never underestimate the opportunity to expose someone to the joy of 
and quilting history! Besides the invitational quilt exhibit I 
curated, I 
was also in charge of audiovisuals. The hotel audiovisual personnel, 
C., a young male [ok, good looking!] late 20-something who "trained" 
me on 
the AV equipment, asked me a lot of questions about "who we were" as 
a group 
and why we studied quilts of all things! I explained "why quilts?" 
just "a 
bit" to him. [HA! I don't do things "in bits" when trying to convert 
uninitiated to quilting history! <vbg>] At the end of the first day 
commented to me that he was blown away by all of us, and our "riotous 
fun-loving ways" ("You all never stop talking and laughing! The 
will never be the same!" he said.) AND our incredible quilts. The 
Quilts! He 
LOVED the quilts! He even brought in a quilt to show us the 2nd 
morning that 
his mother had given him about 5 years ago. (Now I was "really" 
impressed!) I 
asked him if she had made it. No she had bought it, he said. (I 
suspected she 
hadn't made it after just a 2 minute look at it.) I told him I 
suspected it 
was an import. I called over my friend (and AQSG Board member) Bunny 
and explained to him that she was a candidate-quilt-appraiser and 
could give 
him the "real" skinny. Bunny told him the same thing (it's an import) 
but was 
much more thorough. (I had an exhibit to hang. <g>) She also pointed 
out the 
cutoff end of the import label. He was astounded that we could "read" 
quilt and tell so much about it in a matter of minutes and asked how 
we could 
do this! <g> Bunny gave him a great thumb nail lesson in fabric 
dating and 
"clues in the calico." <g> He decided to hang around and listen a bit 
to the 
first paper presentation, and the next day asked all kinds of 
questions. The 3rd morning he arrived on the scene to check the 
equipment as we began hanging the 2nd half of the exhibit, and simply 
over and started helping us hang the quilts. (His help was very much 
appreciated since he was tall and we were climbing on chairs to put 
the poles 
in place. <g>) At the close of the conference, when he came to pick 
up the AV 
equipment, he asked, "How old is the oldest quilt?" We then explained 
that we 
would have to qualify the question to, "How old is the oldest 
quilt. [see Williamsburg stories #2 coming up <g>] We were amazed 
that he 
wanted to know still more about quilt history!! Later he approached 
three of 
us with a huge grin on his face and said, "Well, next time I see a 
quilt I am 
going to say, "This cheddar orange indicates a time period of ... and 
double pink fabric was first produced in ...and has been reproduced 
again and 
again, etc, etc" We dropped our jaws. He had actually picked up some 
of the 
fabric dating quilt lingo that Bunny and others had shared with him 
and had 
retained it! <g> We kidded him that he was going to have the most 
usual line 
for "picking up dates" that any girl had every encountered.... quilt 
history! <g> Never underestimate the impact you can have on hotel 
anywhere!! <g> Karen Alexander


Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:40:32 EDT
From: KareQuilt@aol.com

Are you ready for this? A new record has been set for the oldest 
quilt with 
a date on the quilt! Bridget Long from the British Quilt Study Group 
at AQSG in Williamsburg at Show & Tell that she had recently found a 
with a date of 1718 on it while "out and about in England" (can't 
all the details and if I get any of this wrong, someone please 
correct me). 
It was then purchased with BQSG funds and is now in their 
collection!! It has 
since been partially studied by experts in England at V&A. Their 
is that it has fabrics from as early as the late 1600s in it! She 
showed us 
a slide of it, and (I heard) got permission to leave a copy of the 
slide in 
AQSG's care for the time being! Can someone who was at in 
Williamsburg give 
us more details about the description of the quilt? It was a 
medallion quilt, 
was it not? (My brain is still rather blurred from sensory overload 
and I did 
not take notes during Show & Tell.)

Karen Alexander


Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:41:45 EDT
From: @aol.com

A medallion would make sense, especially around that time period; the 
Quilt up in Montreal is from 1726 and is, yes, a medallion with a 
Compass variant in the center. If you hear more or learn of a link 
to a 
picture, post it! This sounds wonderful!

Karen Evans

Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:53:12 -0500
From: "Leigh Fellner" <hcquilts@peoplepc.com>
To: <QHL@cuenet.com>
Subject: Traveling with "sharps"
Message-ID: <040601c156ae$7d1968c0$951d1f3f@default>

Just got back from flying Pensacola/Houston/Chicago and back. NO 
including needles, permitted in your (one) carry-on.


Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessen@yahoo.com>

Whenever I hear of a State History book I try to get it on the Quilt
History website. The URL is http://www.quilthistory.com/state.htm 
and you can get there from the link on the Articles page. There you
will find the Wisconsin book available for purchase at
If anyone has any books they would like to add, feel free to E-mail
me! I would like that page to be a good resource for all of us. 


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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:47:40 EDT
From: Kathlash@aol.com
Wow! I have received many followup e-mails asking what the new title 
is. It 
was renamed "Wisconsin Quilts: Stories in the Stitches" by Ellen 
Kort, Howell 
Press. I ordered it from BN.com for $23.96 plus shipping and 
handling. They 
don't have it in stock so there is a 1-2 week lead time. I think this 
was just being printed either in September or October 2001.

Several of the e-mails I received asked about Old World Wisconsin. 
You can 
get more information on our living history museum at 
www.shsw.wisc.edu, click 
on historic sites link to get loads of information. This weekend, 
20-21 is our "Autumn on the Farms" event, the last of our 2001 
season. I will be hosting a "Quilt Turning", a mini-quilt show, where 
a dozen 
quilts from the OWW collection will be shown. Join us if you can! 
times are Noon, 1:30PM and 3:00PM both Saturday and Sunday at the 
Farmers' Club Hall on site.

Kathleen Lashley


Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:07:38 -0400
From: "pepper cory" <pepcory@mail.clis.com>

Hello all-I am (as is Bobbie-) living proof that you can live without 
needle in your hand for up to 10 hours on a plane. On a recent trip 
Kansas (lovely people, good classes) I was cautioned no thread 
clippers, long pins or anything sharp. Putting together a sewing kit 
those limitations was a hassle, so I picked up a good book and gave 
permission to read and sleep.My usual reading matter is mysteries and
science fiction but I've been unable to focus on these subjects since 
September tragedies. So, I saw the Harry Potter books and thought, 
not?" For anyone who hasn't read them, they're excellent. Besides I'm
preparing myself to be in the know for my nieces and nephews who are 
Potter-ites and know exactly what they'll be this Halloween. From the 
but windy Carolina coast-
Pepper Cory


Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:47:20 -0500
From: Joanna Evans <jevans@bluemarble.net>

When I flew to Virginia last week for the AQSG conference, I took my 
quilting in my carry-on. I precut my thread and wound it on a piece 
of cardboard. If I had had more time, I would have threaded a bunch 
of needles. Then, I put a pair of kid's Fiskar scissors in my checked 
bag. They are sharp and cheap. I figured that if they were 
confiscated I wouldn't care. They weren't.
Happy travels.

I'll add to the rave reviews of the AQSG conference. I had a grand 
time. The early 18th century silk quilt that has us all buzzing 
contains silks that have been dated as early as 1620! Some of the 
silk on the back had been previously used in garments. In the corners 
of the top were fleur-de-lis in 8" blocks (most of the blocks were 4" 
blocks as Xenia stated). These designs were paper pieced (not 
appliqued) in the traditional English paper piecing manner. I can't 
wait to read the reports on the research they are currently doing!

Joanna Evans
Bloomington, IN


Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:07:32 -0700
From: Gail Ingram <GIngram@tcainternet.com>

Re Pepper's suggestions for those times when we cannot ply our 
needles and
when our old reading material just doesn't seem to meet our present 
needs or
our minds won't stay focused for long periods of time: Isn't it 
how "children's" books serve us in our most difficult times as 

Pepper mentioned Harry Potter. May I add "The Wind in the Willows,"
"Charlotte's Web," and the dear old Pooh books? Such wonderful 
reminders of
love and friendship and community. And then there is "Alice In 
and "Through the Looking Glass," both of which deal with trying to 
make do
in a world that we have not quite figured out yet---not books I liked 
as a
child, but ones I enjoy as an adult.

Also what about Garrison Keillor--"Leaving Home," "Lake Wobegone 
etc--for reminders of how to use and enjoy the mundane gifts that 
sustain us
in times of anthrax and pestilence?

Anne mentioned Patricia Cooper and Norma Allen's "The Quilters," now 
out in
a new paperback edition----easy reading, good examples for getting 
hard times. A little different, but also readable in short spurts and 
offering good models, is "Women's Diaries of the Western Journey" ed 
Lillian Schlissel.

If you like poetry in the more conventional modes (i.e., written for
non-academic, "real" readers) any volume by Mary Oliver will gladden 

There is a terrific, "under-discovered" tiny book of verse by North 
poet Dannye Romine Powell called "At Every Wedding Somebody Stays 
Home" that
deals with women's lives more truly than anything I've encountered 
Mizriz Em'ly Dickinson. Pub'd U. of Arkansas Press.

Anyone driving south to Houston for the quiltfest down there? Ruston 
is on
I-20 and our house always offers strong coffee and Louisiana 

Gail Ingram


Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:22:09 EDT
From: DDBSTUFF@aol.com
I don't know if this has been discussed but thought I'd pass it 

An auction of quilts, made by breast cancer survivors, to support
survivors and the research that helps them to survive. . .



Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 04:45:52 -0400
From: Lynn and Debbie Cupp <cupp5@home.com>

I just returned from a trip to Nebraska. I was asked if I had 
or other sharp objects. I was able to truthfully say I didn't. I 
the Clover thread cutter that can be worn as a pendant or inserted in 
spool of thread. 

I also enjoyed reading for a change of pace from handsewing. Jimmy
Carter's boyhood memoir "An Hour Before Daylight" was very relaxing 
interesting...I wished it hadn't ended, but he had to grow up 
and become our 39th president. :>

Debbie Cupp
Virginia Beach


Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 05:29:34 -0500
From: "Ann G. Hubbard" <ahubbard@cdoc.net>

3 years ago when we got back from a trip to Nova Scotia, Cape Breton, 
Island, I read all of Lucy Maud Montgomery Books about that area-Anne 
Green Gables. There are probably 2 dozen books by her and all very 
stories. When they were published, everyone read them including the 
and Queen of England. they are available in paperback in the children 
section of Barnes and Noble for one. Another great series would be 
Wilder Ingalls, Little House on the Prairie. I have usually read on 
overseas flights even, as I am a klutz. I am forever losing needles, 
thimble, or scissors even when we are driving. Things will calm down, 
it is obvious that it will take awhile. My Welsh friend Gwen is not 
and we are not going to Houston together this year. Very sad state of 
affairs for everyone, but it only goes to show how interconnected our 
have become across the world. Peace to all. Ann


Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:56:38 +0000
From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush11@hotmail.com>

I did a show this past weekend, sales were down, but, BOY did I have 
fun!! I 
was strolling through the other booths, found lots of 'stuff' and 
wanted to 
bring my U-haul and someone Else's Visa card, but.....decided to be 
good and 
not just 'buy' for the sake of it. Because of the show, I missed TWO 
auctions in town, sigh.....oh well, BUT.....
As I was strolling, I spotted RED AND GREEN!????? Now, this has 
been my 
fantasy, whether it was a Baltimore Album,..or not. A Red and Green 
(why is 
it..I DON'T like the traditional red and green at Christmas,but, give 
my eye 
tooth for a QUILT in red/green??)...Well, spotted this, what I 
figured was a 
print on white. Like a 40's tablecloth. In fact, the sign read 'could 
used as a nice table cloth'...ALMOST walked by it.
Got closer (the 'ole tri-focals just HAD to get 
closer)....ohhhhhhh MA 
GOSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! It was a QUILT TOP!!! RED and GREEN!!!!!?????? I 
it off the display, hands shaking, trying not to let them 'see me 
sweat'...clammy palms,..ok, now, kb,...do your stuff. You can DO 
unfolded, TWELVE blocks, Plus sashing, where's the holes, where's the 
stains,....WHERE's THE PRICE TAG!!!!!?????????? 
was from a seller who didn't 'do' quilts! She was going to just hem 
edges and casually 'throw it over her table' but decided to bring it 
to the 
Ok,...calm down, get the check book out.....eeeeeeeease it 
out,...$225.00 you say??? uuuummmmmmm....well, Awfully lot to pay for 

'tablecloth'...(as my mind was whirling/swirling) FORGET the 'sugar 
dancing in my head....gotta HAVE this MINT prize!!!!!! ok,..well, the 
was Really wanting to sell and get down to her REAL business of 
selling her 
glass-ware. Customers starting to come up and take her attention for 
glass ware ....uh,...would you take $$$ for this? no......but, she'd 
$$$ (less than I offered to 'get it off her 
hands'...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was...get this,...her 
GRANDMOTHER'S!!!!! She diddn't know if GGG had pieced it, but, it had 
in her trunk all this time, NO fold creases, NO stains,....NO 
Well, now, here I sit, fawning, petting, fondling and it's MINE, 
so....all of you experts out there, did I make a DEAL?????? Well, 
really matter, except....this top AINT gonna go on Ebay! I need to 
know the 
date/etc, and want to have it appraised in Writing....just for 
WEll...I 'say' just for myself, with the attorney's etc...that all 
change in the near future,...they DO want their $$ for the 
pending divorce (still up in the air on that one)...but, ......
Would it decrease the value if I were to hand quilt it??? Anyone 
ideeeeers on the design I should use for the hand quilting? I know 
were plenty of wreaths/feather plumes,etc on the Baltimores, but,...I 
'see' this top having that type of design. I was thinking l/2" 
grid-style...??? AND, one more question, WHERE do I find the thin, 
vintage muslin??? I'm going to use a creamy cotton muslin NOT the 
perma-press.......aaaaaachhhh...and would LIKE to find the 'real' 
thing....?? kb HERE's the GEM!!!  (Click on the thumbnails)



Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:23:19 -0400
From: "anne" <datkoa@erols.com>

This is not a history question but I hope list members can help. My 
and maker of my guild's raffle quilt for next year's quilt show 
additional fabric but has been unable to locate any at the usual 
places we
try. The particulars: Hoffman Windsor Collection, color number 9167,
background is antique black and mauve variegated, Jacobean flowers 
small bluebells. She purchased yardage last year when the fabric was
released but didn't know she would want to use it in this quilt and 
did not buy enough. She needs 3 - 6 yards. Any suggestions for 

Replies to datkoa@erols.com or 301-949-9458, or to Sharlene Jackson 
301-843-1127. Many thanks. AnneD


Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:09:12 -0500
From: cducey@unlnotes.unl.edu

There is also a new book out, called "Quilting Lessons: Notes from the Scrap Bag of a Writer and Quilter" by Janet Berlo, that is a wonderful read. It's about a period of upheaval in Janet's life and how she got through it by focusing on quilting. I found it very warm-hearted and funny and sad - I highly recommend it!



Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:53:19 -0400
From: "pepper cory" <pepcory@mail.clis.com>

Hello all-About a week ago, one of my friends passed away and she 
might be
known to some folks on this list. My friend was Alex Dupre from Long 
NY. She was a crackerjack quilter, an amazing sample maker (for 
like RJR and Michael Miller), a quilting teacher, an author, and all 
great person. She was one of the people I called up when I was in the 
and she never failed to either cheer me up or kick me in the rear end
(figuratively) so that I hung up the phone feeling recharged and 
In Susan McKelvey's and my Signature Quilt book, Alex was the maker 
of the
plaid sampler. In Mastering Quilt Marking, she did the original 
sampler quilt My Own Folk Art on page 16 and No More Monkeys Jumpin' 
On the
Bed on pages 17 and 71.
Alex was diagnosed with lung cancer on September 5 and died early in 
morning October 15. She was 48 years old. She leaves an ex-husband 
and a 14 year-old daughter Chrissy. If you'd like to send a 
condolence card,
here's the address:
Chrissy Dupre
319 East Penn Street,
Long Beach, NY 11651.
Chrissy spoke at her Mom's funeral and I wish I could have been 
miss her terribly.
Pepper Cory


Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:37:41 -0400
From: mreich@attglobal.net

Those of us who attended the AQSG conference in Williamsburg had an =
opportunity to overdose on the most amazing collections of the quilts 
of =
our heritage. As a first timer, I would like to extended my thank you 
to =
all who made me and the other women with blue ribbons feel so warmly 
welcome. To the QHL members in attendance, it was great fun to 
connect =
names and faces. This contact will make sharing future quilt history 
information more personal.
Attending an AQSG conference has always been a dream of mine. Over 
the =
past ten years, I have been involved with the Connecticut Quilt 
Search =
Project in documenting, researching and writing about the quilts and 
quiltmakers of Connecticut. It was with great pride that I was able 
to =
bring the advance copy of Quilts and Quiltmakers Covering Connecticut 
to =
AQSG for its debut. Published by Schiffer Publishing, Atglen, PA., I 
hope that you will find the quilt photographs beautiful and the 
stories =
of the quiltmakers and Connecticut's textile history charming and =
informative. Schiffer promised that the book will be arriving in =
Connecticut in two weeks. It is available through the Connecticut 
Quilt =
Search Project, 176 Walek Farm Rd., Manchester, CT. 06040 for $29.95 
plus $3.95 for shipping and handling. Connecticut residents must pay 
6% =
sales tax.
Upon arriving home, last weekend, I received our manuscript 
submitted =
one year ago to Howell Press in Virginia. They are the publishers of 
the =
Wisconsin book which will be available in two weeks. Jim Howell, =
president of Howell Press ask that I pass on to quilt history authors 
his company's desire to publish the state documentation books. He 
would =
like to encourage that manuscript be submitted to them. He seemed =
genuinely interested.
Schiffer Publishing has now published many textile and quilt =
documentation books. Our Project cannot speak highly enough of the =
incredible working relation they provided. Their photographic 
facility =
is top notch so important with textiles. We will be always grateful 
for =
their guidance and enthusiasm in producing the CQSP book.
There was much discussion at the AQSG conference about the decrease 
in =
the publication of quilt history books. These are two publishers very 
much interested in this market.
Sue Reich - Back home in Connecticut, where the fall colors are at 
their peak.


Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:35:14 -0500
From: "Leigh Fellner" <hcquilts@peoplepc.com>

Can somebody please clarify for me whether Old Order Amish ever used
patterned fabric, particularly before 1900? I was of the 
understanding that
solid was the rule of the day; somebody else is insisting that
other-than-solids were used "for quilts, decor and rugs".


Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:32:22 EDT
From: @aol.com

*appreciative whistle* That *is* a beauty. I don't know about the 
quilting, but at the very least I'd line it. It looks more like a 
Pennsylvania German quilt than a Baltimore, so if you decide to quilt 
it, the 
grid would probably be fine. 

Very, very nice find. Now, why can't I do something like that? :(

Karen Evans

Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:02:54 -0500
From: Joanna Evans <jevans@bluemarble.net>
To: "

One of my favorite papers at AQSG last weekend was about contemporary 
Korean quilt making in a distinctly Korean style. One of the quilts 
(which was inspired by the designs in Korean ceramic roof tiles) 
Barbara Eikmeier studied during the two years she just spent in Korea 
appears on the cover of this year's Uncoverings. When I opened my 
mailbox this afternoon, I was thrilled to see that same quilt on the 
cover of the winter issue of American Quilter. Has there ever been an 
AQSG cover quilt on the cover of a popular quilt magazine at the same 
time before? Anyway, for those of you who didn't make it to 
Williamsburg and haven't yet received Uncoverings, there is a tiny 
slice of Barbara's research in American Quilter, along with some nice 
photos. Enjoy.
Joanna Evans
Bloomington, IN


Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:39:14 -0500
From: Bettina Havig <bettinaqc@socket.net>

There is no such term as never in any quilt reference. The Old Order 
prefer solid fabrics, almost never use any prints, but you will 
but rarely find a quilt with a very small print. Often, if that 
choice was
made, it would be on the reverse side of the quilt. Bear in mind 
that some
of the strict oral traditions are reinforced by the local leadership 
some variances can come about. You can be most certain of the 
when you acquire a quilt in a direct line from the maker, for example 
in one
case that I know of where the daughter of the maker related that her 
found this very tiny print on sale at an irresistable price and used 
it on
the back of the quilt. As for rugs, at least today, I see many woven 
rugs made by the Old Order that contain torn strips of print fabrics 
they are virtually unrecognizable in the rugs. I have far less 
exposure to
PA Amish than others, but this is my experience in study and work 
Midwestern Old Order Amish. They are a dynamic society even though 
perception may be otherwise. Even in conversation with Amish 
quiltmakers you
might not get a definitive answer....
Bettina Havig