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Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:30:17 -0800
From: Chris Flynn <lovechris@earthlink.net>

Hello everyone.... please, if you have a moment, let me know what you 
think I should do about this situation. Last April I was approached by an 
ebay seller to purchase a wonderful redwork quilt, privately, off ebay. I 
paid her $500 for the quilt. I made a pattern from this quilt and have 
been selling it on ebay for the last seven months. Now she is listing a 
quilt almost identical to the one she sold me! If you have a moment, 
please look at her listing: and then at the pattern listing of mine.... and tell 
me what you think! I'm not sure where to turn. I bought it because I 
love Redwork and this is a pattern many people have enjoyed duplicating 
via the pattern I made from it. I thought I was purchasing a vintage 
quilt.... not I'm not sure where to turn, or what to do. If you have the time to
advise.... I really appreciate it!

Her listing: *VINTAGE* Redwork Mammy / Aunt Jemimah Quilt
Item # 1493767891 (Click on the thumbnails)

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My listing: Redwork MAMMY quilt Pattern Book
Item # 1675489963 

I feel so badly for all the people who have purchased my patterns of 
this quilt thinking, as I did, that it was an original quilt!

Thank you for what ever feedback or advice you care to give....
Sincerely, Chris Flynn, Boulder Creek, California


Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 21:33:42 +1100
From: Lorraine Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>

Hello All,
I looked carefully at both of the items and I really think the quilt 
seller has a new item for sale. There is nothing in any of the pictures that tells me there is any  age in this quilt.  My experience buying quilts from the US has been from photographs  only, and I feel I can read pictures fairly accurately now. This quilt looks NEW. I see there is at least one person on this list who placed an early  bid. I would like to hear what they think.

Chris's picture is not clear enough for me to see her quilt.

If this is a new quilt that is still being produced, Chris may have 
been printing and selling a copyright covered item, which brings up a 
whole new set of problems.

Because I am feeling cheeky tonight, I just emailed the seller to ask 
if she has any more like the one she is selling.
I will let you know the answer.

Lorraine in Oz


Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:01:22 -0500
From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net>

I have some doubts that this quilt is old but wouldn't swear to it 
without being able to examine it in person . . . this seems like a more 
contemporary interpretation of Black Americana to me. In the 20's or 
30's, images of blacks were more likely to be stereotyped negative images.  This was changing during the 60's, the second possible date the seller has given to the quilt, but it would be rare to find redwork done at that time. The individual images convey some of these stereotypes (like the watermelon eating), but the wording along the edge seems contemporary. I would also like to ask the seller if the "turkey work" stitching along the seamlines is by hand or machine - it looks like it may be a machine zig-zag. Makes me wonder if it is an import - I have seen new imported quilts that depict Black Americana. About a year ago someone sent me a quilt on consignment he was excited about finding - appliqued black figures with primitive stitching - I immediately returned it, pointing out to him that much of the work (which looked like handwork on a quick glance) was done by machine and there were other characteristics of imported quilts (and he paid a hefty price!). If others have opinions, please share them with the entire list, 
not just with Chris.


Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 15:35:01 +0000
From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush11@hotmail.com>

Chris, this quilt might have been from a kit? and there are more out 
there. Could it be possible that this lady has found another one just like 
you bought? It' a Very unique quilt, but, might be like the other 'kits' 
and reproduced (the quilt made several times) in the 30's or 40's ???
As far as your customers on your pattern, I doubt that they would 
question You that it's a unique quilt pattern/design. It IS. I doubt 
if there is such a thing as 'one' quilt of any design without someone 
reproducing it in their own way...?? kb

Karen Bush
It only takes me One day to get a month behind :/


Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:07:40 -0600
From: "Leigh Fellner" <hcquilts@peoplepc.com>

The seller of the Irish broderie perse quilt tells me the high bidder 
is  "the proprietor of Historic American Quilts......... 
www.historic-american.com in Illinois, USA. It will be much loved 
and cared for and admired and perhaps exhibited."



Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:57:46 -0500
From: "Kris Driessen, QuiltBus.com" <krisdriessen@yahoo.com>

Subject: Can anyone help this lady?

Please respond to both her and the list.



> >From fadness@bendcable.com Fri Dec 07 12:44:22 2001
>From: "Roger Fadness" <fadness@bendcable.com>
>Hopefully someone will just know the answer or will know where to 
send me.
>l bought a quilt and it is signed Dolly Madison and Ida Koontz 1935.
>I know that Dolly was our fourth presidents wife but that was back 
in the 
>1800s. I have absolutely no history on this quilt it is a goldenrod 
>pieced stars.
>Anyone know where I can go for info?
>Lesa Fadness
>19758 Buck Canyon Rd
>Bend, OR 97702
>PS I guess I also need to know how to go about getting some of the 
>repaired? I have quilted for many years and do lots of hand work. 
>thoughts would be appreciated.. I have searched the web and the 
>reference with no luck. HELP




Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:20:54 EST
From: RufflesMom308@aol.com

I have a quilt that is at least 40 years old. What is the best form 
preservation? Can I clean the quilt, and if so, how? What are your 
suggestions regarding repairing quilts? 


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:45:10 EST
From: JQuilt@aol.com

my guess is that 2 women named ida kootz and dolly madison made the 
quilt in 
1935...dolly was a popular name/nickname for girls....many fathers 
called a 
daughter his little doll and she got nicknamed dolly...
sissy was another popular nickname...derived from sister ...


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:09:40 EST
From: RBCochran@aol.com

Also, I believe Mrs. Madison's first name is spelled Dolley, not 


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:02:32 -0600
From: Leslie Goddard <l-goddard@northwestern.edu>

Can anyone point me to some good sources (articles, book chapters, 
discussions) regarding the pros and cons of quilting a vintage quilt 
top? A 
friend recently acquired an 1890s hand-pieced top that she'd like to 
Some people are warning her against doing so. Others are telling her 
to go 
ahead since it's only a good, not an excellent, piece. Any insights? 
tried to search the archives, but can't seem to get in).

Leslie Goddard


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:28:56 -0500
From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdoc@sover.net>

The best instructions I have seen for cleaning quilts is at the 
web site, put out by the Bishop Museum, in Hawaii.


It doesn't just tell you what to do. It tells you why you are doing 
it that
way. And Orvus soap is what many textile experts recommend. I 
bought my
gallon jar of Orvus cheaply at a farm store as it is used for washing
horses, sheep, etc. But it is also available in smaller quantities 
in quilt

There is no easy answer as to whether your quilt will wash well 
testing it. All fabrics need to be tested to see if they will run. 
If the
fibers are not strong they may tear with the weight of the wet quilt 
moved around. Never put it in the washing machine and allow 
Cotton batting gets very heavy when wet.

I do quilt restoration, if you don't want to do it yourself, we could 

Jan Drechsler in Vermont
Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:58:28 -0500
From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net>

There are several books that deal with quilting old tops, the newest 
Heirloom Quilts from Old Tops by Pat Morris. The bulk of the book 
patterns for some of the quilts shown, but there are some good tips 
working with old tops. Another book is Time-Span Quilts: New Quilts 
from Old Tops
by Becky Hurdle (AQS book).

My personal opinion is that old tops should be quilted if possible 
they are extremely valuable as is or they are too fragile to quilt. 
Quilting not only gives definition to the top but also strengthens it 
makes it usable. (My opinion is that an antique top should NEVER be 
used - 
as a table cover, wall hanging, etc. - because it is too weak, 
if it is pieced, to withstand this use.) A finished quilt is more 
likely to 
survive than an uncompleted top. Although it is harder to quilt 
thin cotton batting IMHO is a must in a pre-1950 quilt top. (Some 
actually split a cotton bat in two to make it as thin as possible.) 
And any 
backing and binding should be either fabrics from the same era as the 
or appropriate repros representing the same time period. Done 
quilting will also increase the value of the top. Done poorly or with 
inappropriate batting and other materials, quilting will actually 
the piece's value.

An 1890's top may be fragile, especially if it contains some of the 
prints from that period where the dyes weakened the fabric. I have 
old tops and find that these fabrics may split as you are quilting 
even if they look strong enough to handle. This problem can be 
lessened by 
1) avoiding quilting on the straight of the grain and 2) using a stab 
stitch (taking a stitch in two steps - push the needle through the 
and then bring it back up) rather than a running stitch in which you 
the entire stitch in one step. Some people also reinforce especially 
fragile fabrics with fusible interfacing, but I have never tried 
this. If 
the pieces are small enough, you can also just avoid quilting at all 
on the 
especially fragile pieces. If you choose to work with a top from the 
or 1930's, you probably won't encounter problems with fragile 
fabrics, but 
19th century textiles may be too fragile to work with. Then it is 
best just 
to store the top and bring it out from time to time to admire!

At 10:02 AM 12/10/01, Leslie Goddard wrote:
>Can anyone point me to some good sources (articles, book chapters, 
>previous discussions) regarding the pros and cons of quilting a 
>quilt top? A friend recently acquired an 1890s hand-pieced top that 
>like to quilt. Some people are warning her against doing so. Others 
>telling her to go ahead since it's only a good, not an excellent, 
>Any insights? (I tried to search the archives, but can't seem to get 
>Leslie Goddard


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:56:42 -0600
From: "Leigh Fellner" <hcquilts@peoplepc.com>

I emailed the seller of the quilt to give her a heads-up on the 
matter. She was dismayed, and asked me to convey her position to QHL. Her reply to me:

"Thank you so much for writing to me - I truly appreciate it. This 
quilt is an authentic old quilt and I purchased two of them in two different 
states. I sold one to Chris - and she has been selling the patterns on ebay 
and is quite angry that I found another quilt. I would never do anything
underhanded or misrepresent something."

She also forwarded to me a copy of the extremely professional letter 
she sent today to Chris which even to cynical Yours Truly sounds very 
sincere. The seller is, as far as I can see, a generalist in high-end vintage 
items,by no means a quilt dealer or textile specialist, and seems to have 
fully refunded when asked to do so in the past. Her auction gives three 
different dates people have estimated for the quilt (1920-1960), and goes on 
to flatly state she doesn't know its age. It's perfectly possible she 
did indeed find Chris's quilt at the bottom of a basket in an antique 
shop, as Chris says that auction stated - but as we all know, where you find
something is no indication of its age or value. If the previous 
auction text was the same as the current one, it sounds to me like this 
bidder made assumptions about the age and uniqueness of the quilt based on 
enthusiasm rather than research.

I was puzzled why, after she emailed QHL on 12/8 that "I feel so 
badly for all the people who have purchased my patterns of this quilt thinking, 
as I did, that it was an original quilt", the next morning Chris started 
another auction for the same patterns - so I asked her about it. Her 
response to me is "so that everyone could see there was a previous quilt just 
like this and that it isn't all that original" and that "when I saw her quilt, 
I decided to list all three of my patterns so people could look me up 
and see my feedback, etc.."


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:36:52 -0600 (CST)
From: adair@execpc.com

Hi, I'm a new member who has been "lurking" for a while, and would 
like to ask your expertise. I'm a school librarian, and I've been
quilting for about 20 years. I make lots of reproduction quilts,
using old quilts for inspiration. Recently, I bought a wool batt, 
I would like to use it to make a hand-quilted reproduction quilt. I
know lots of Amish quilts had wool batts, but they're not really very
appealing to me anymore (been there, done that). What other kinds of
quilts had wool batting? Have any of you found quilts from the late
1800s quilted with wool? Any help you can give me will be
appreciated. Thanks!
Sylvia Adair


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:44:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmv@yahoo.com>

Hi there! I have been reading the postings about the
"Redwork Mammy" quilt and found them very interesting.
Thought I would relate a similar duplicate quilt story
as an aside to "it really happens".

I attended an auction near Dayton 6 years ago and fell
absolutely in love with an appliqued alphabet quilt
for a child. It was probably made in the 1920's or
30's but the fabrics were dulled from use & washing. 
This was an antique youth quilt which sold to a dealer
for around $80--too much for my pocket book. Then
later in the same auction, a newer antique
reproduction of that same alphabet quilt came to the
block & I was fortunate enough to win it. The
reproduction had been made of newer fabrics in cottons
and cotton blends from about the 1960's. Later I went
up to the buyer of the antique and asked if we could
"compare" the items so we had a nice chat about them. 
She was happy & I was happy to have the quilts we
bought and enjoyed chatting about them, too.

Several weeks ago, I saw another quilt in the same
pattern posted for sale (as of tonite it is still
posted under # 1488516568). This one had the name of
the quilter and the date made : 1930. I could have
sworn it was the "other" quilt in the auction except
for the brief notes I made during the auction: "made
with solid colors". The auction bill noted that the
family had Amish & Mennonite ancestors & that could
have influenced the use of all solid fabrics in the
quilt. The quilt I bought was the newer one done in
print fabrics. Even though the seller verified that
the quilt had indeed come from another dealer in Ohio,
I knew it was not the same antique quilt I had won and
lost because it also had printed fabrics in it. 

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The quilt on eBay is so very similar to the one I
bought in auction, that I dug it out and compared it.
The lay-out is similar & the choice of fabrics is
similar, also. My conclusion is that : in 1930 there
must have been a pattern available commercially or
published in a magazine somewhere & it might have been
published again in the 1960's. However, since no
patterns for it were found in the auction where the 2
quilts came from I cannot be sure of anything other
than 2 of the same quilt patterns were made in the
same family because someone had made one for a child
and then later perhaps they made the same for another
younger child. Could be trans-generational, the same
quilter or two, birth quilts for a child and parent,
etc. Who knows?

The point is that some patterns will be repeated if
they are commercially available or somehow connected
(same county, neighboring cities, families related,
etc.)and shared. So it could be reasonable to see 2
or 3 of the same thing. The history and background of
the quilt can answer a lot of questions if it is
passed on with the quilt. 

The discussion earlier about embroidered flower block
quilts & Xenia Cord's reply about it being a Ruby
Short McKim pattern that was offered via a contest in
several newsppaers during 1929-1932 might account for
a large number of them appearing in the antique quilt
market today. Sometimes it was just a popular
pattern, but best to ask whenthe opportunity is there.

Whenever I buy a quilt in an auction or a dealer or
from the quilter, I make notes about what history I
can gather for it since I can't access a lot of period
magazines and commercial patterns. 


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:51:08 EST
From: Chyral@aol.com

> What other kinds of
> quilts had wool batting? Have any of you found quilts from the 
> 1800s quilted with wool? 

Several years ago, I worked with the textile collection of the 
County (NJ) Historical Association on a volunteer basis. In their 
of some 70 quilts, there are at least two with wool batts. One was 
elaborately quilted c. 1790 calimanco whole cloth quilt, most notable 
for the 
bright raspberry color of the cloth. The other was also a whole 
cloth quilt, 
of a lovely glazed roller printed cotton. The fabric dated from 
about 1825, 
if I recall correctly, but since the lengths of cloth (which most 
likely had 
started their life as a set of bed curtains) had been sewn together 
machine, we assigned an approximate date of 1860 to the object. The 
wool batt 
in the second quilt was very thick, and the quilting was rudimentary 
simple. A third quilt, (a four- patch-on-point strippy set beauty 
fabrics dating from the 1780s though the 1820s) had a very thin 
batting that 
may or may not have been wool; I can't find my cataloguing notes to 
my age-addled semi-remembrance. :(

While wool batting was atypical in the quilt collection, the costume 
collection included several quilted petticoats (late 18th century 
through the 
1850s), and I'm pretty sure they all had wool batting..... 



Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:02:47 -0800
From: "Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1@san.rr.com>

Dear All,
The Alphabet quilt on ebay Item# 1488516568 is pictured in 
Woodard, Thomas K. and Greenstein, Blanche, (1988). Twentieth Century
Quilts 1900-1950. E.P. Dutton. New York page 129.
It was also available in kit form from Mary McElwain's Shop in 
The settings vary, some are set block to block and some have sashing
like the one on ebay.The design of the Alphabet Quilt was offered  as a pattern in the Nancy Page column by Publishers Syndicate, New York.



Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:17:45 -0500
From: Barb Garrett <bgarrett@fast.net>

Hi Ark Quilts and others --

I can't help with information about the mammy quilt, but I can help 
information about the alphabet quilt at this auction site --


As soon as I saw the picture at the web site, I knew I had seen that
quilt and have a book with the pattern. At one of the early 
Quilt Shows I found a spiral bound book by Phyllis Adkins Baxter 
Alphabet Quilt -- and this quilt is pictured on the front cover --
different fabrics, but the same layout, even the same pieced sashing.
The first page says -- This book presents the applique patterns for 
ALPHABET QUILT, by Florence LaGanke, published in the newspapers in 
and 1930 under the title of Nancy Page Quilt Club. The book 
copies of each of the newspaper articles, and the quilt on the cover 
the same layout as the one in the auction. The book includes 
in 3 different sizes -- original 6", and 4 1/2" and 3" drafted by the

Barb in southeastern PA
My Historic Doll Quilt Designs can be seen at
and on Simply Quilts, Dec 11 morning show


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:01:46 -0500
From: "Martha Wroolie" <mwroolie@mindspring.com>

With a strippy quilt in the planning stages, I've been thinking of 
using =
a wool batting. I've heard that it is great to hand quilt but can't 
find anyone to ask who has actually done one...might have something 
to =
do with being in the South.

Anyone have any thoughts or advice? I'd greatly appreciate any input 
about advantages or pitfalls associated with using a wool batt. 
Also, =
a possible source for a good one to use?

Martha Wroolie
Atlanta, GA

Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:06:16 -0800
From: donbeld@postoffice.pacbell.net

Hi, It just so happens that I have an Aunt who has the flower garden
quilt that was embroidered by my Great-Grandmother and my Aunts 
in the 1930. It has the picket fence border. My grand-father
supposedly designed the fence. The way he handled the corners was to
run a picket up the diagonal at 45% and put a shorter picket on 
side. He also put a gate on the bottom border of the quilt.

I also happen to have an early 1900's quilt that I found in Eureka,
California that has a wood batting. (Boy is it heavy). I can't 
under it because it is so heavy. It is done in a diamond in a 
pattern with a Greek key border. So anything from the early 1900's 
in a
cold climate might have had wood batting.

Hope this all helps you guys. Don Beld


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:56:51 -0500
From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdoc@sover.net>

Leslie asks whether a 100 year old top should be quilted.
The official textile conservator answer is 'no.' Nothing older than 
years should be quilted. The act of pulling thread through the 
fabric can
further weaken an age stressed textile. I would question whether 
quilting a
piece would strengthen a quilt top given the manipulation required to 
the potential of thread slicing the top and the added weight stress. 
that is the objective, then supporting the top with a backing only 
might be

Having said that, I have quilted only one old top from the 1880's but 
I was
quite certain that the fabrics were strong and not sun damaged or 
Also, I used a thin all cotton thread, not a quilting weight thread. 
We do
have folks on the list that have quilted old tops- some were fine and 
fell apart. There is no easy answer without closely examining the 

Regards, Jan

Jan Drechsler in Vermont
Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:06:40 +1100
From: "kate knight" <kateknight@optushome.com.au>

Hello all and Lesa,

>l bought a quilt and it is signed Dolly Madison and Ida Koontz 1935.
>I know that Dolly was our fourth presidents wife but that was back 
in the
>1800s. I have absolutely no history on this quilt it is a goldenrod 
>pieced stars.

There are several quilt blocks named "Dolley Madison Star" or "Dolly 
Star"...perhaps the maker Ida Koontz was identifying the block name ?
In fact one on ebay right now
which shows a pieced star (identified on Block Base as DM Star, 
Block and Santa Fe)
Just a thought.

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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:58:50 +0000
From: "Karen Bush" <karenbush11@hotmail.com>
To: QHL@cuenet.com

Martha- I've hand quilted with it quite a bit, and it's a DREAM !! 
I wish 
I could afford to quilt All of my quilts with it!
Also, qI experimented with a large quilt and tied it instead of 
with the wool, 4 years later, LOTS of washing, and it didn't shred, 
shift,...it's GREAT! :) kb
Karen Bush
It only takes me One day to get a month behind :/


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:07:38 -0500
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com>

What fun to see Barb Garrett on Simply Quilts this morning with some 
of her
amazing collection of doll quilts. Great to see the Mennonites 
getting some
attention. Yea, Barb!
Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:23:54 -0600
From: "Carla Toczek" <CToczek@hot.rr.com>


Has anyone seen/heard reviews of the book American Quilt Classics featuring quilts in the collection of Patricia Cox? The book is published/soon to be released by That Patchwork Place and is advertised in current quilting magazines. I'm curious how it compares to the state books and the Pennsylvania books by Pat
Herr? Photos only without the historical/family information?

Carla Toczek
Harker Heights, TX


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:05:25 -0500
From: "Teddy Pruett" <Aprayzer@hotmail.com>

<<What other kinds of
quilts had wool batting? Have any of you found quilts from the 
1800s quilted with wool? Any help you can give me will be
appreciated. >> =20

I was surprised to find, in the process of doing many appraisals, 
that =
there were more southern quilts batted with wool than I had supposed. 
I =
have appraised several from the Mississippi/Alabama region, 1860's =
through 1900, that had wool batts. =20
The first one was a silk hexagon quilt of very small pieces, made 
on a =
plantation during the War of Secession ( also known as the Civil War 
to =
some of you - LOL!!). It was against the law to grow cotton in some 
areas, as all fields that had not been laid to waste by the battles 
were =
to be used for food. SO, it makes sense that wool might have been 
used =
as a batt when cotton was largely unavailable. =20
This is not a validated study, just an observation. Teddy Pruett, 
Lake City, FL =20


Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:21:14 -0500
From: "pepper cory" <pepcory@mail.clis.com>

I've hand quilted with a wool batt and it is wonderful! However, I do
strongly suggest that you buy the batt wrapped in the thin 
covering and that you keep that on the batt. It makes zip difference 
in your
quilting stitches and it helps to keep the batt together. Just for 
sake, I'd test quilt a piece on wool batt, especially if you're using 
colored fabrics. Occasionally some wool and cotton fabrics rub each 
the wrong way and the batting can beard.
Most wool batts are carded rather "high" because folks want the fluff
factor. When hand quilting, just baste the blazes out of the sandwich 
quilting, thereby flattening the batt temporarily. After quilting, 
loose the
basting stitches and poof! All those lovely hills and valleys, almost 
trapunto effect, but without the tedious work.Try the Frankenmuth 
Mill in Frankenmuth, Michigan.
By the way, I've seen a number of NC quilts from the turn of the 
quilted with wool batts. They're mostly from the Piedmont area
(Winston-Salem, Burlington) but that's because sheep were raised 


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:15:33 -0500
From: "laurafisher" <laurafisher@netlink1.net>

Hi all - In my shop now I have the same alphabet as on eBay -- 
figures in
blocks representing each letter of the alphabet - but the one I have 
is in a
youth bed size with a wide scalloped edge border, made as a summer 
with no quilting. I have had this pattern numerous times in the past 
and it
is forever charming and a lovely way to teach a child.

Companies sellling patterns not only reissued favorites under 
names, but also "borrowed" popular patterns from one another and 
them under their own names There is hardly anything new under the 



Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:41:55 -0600
From: Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>

Many of you know that at the Houston show this year there was a 
and unprecedented outpouring of quilts commemorating the tragedy of
September 11. Among the several hundred quilts sent for exhibit, 
two (that I know of) were in memory of the brave passengers of United
Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania.

Many of the quilts were sold at silent auction, and I was fortunate 
win one by Cathy Cloud called "The First Hero" - a cloud and sky 
with a vapor trail that says "let's roll" - the last words spoken on 
cell phone by passenger Todd Beamer before he and others attacked the

In memory of that incredible courage, some quilt groups (and other
organizations) that I belong to have begun a campaign to do random 
of kindness. Moreover, each time a kindness is done for us, we tell 
group about it and donate to a kitty. As the funds accumulate, when 
hear of a person whose bravery or courage or kindness deserves
recognition, we will give that person an award.

If you like this idea, start something! And remember Todd Beamer and
the others on Flight 93 as you do so.

Merry Christmas -


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:11:56 -0500


I bought Patricia Cox's book at AQSG in Williamsburg back in October. 
It is
lovely, with many gorgeous photos. But, it is nothing like the state
documentation books. There is virtually no history with the quilts.

It is one person's collection, and as such shows the bias of one 
eye and perhaps location, and even more perhaps, one person's 

All the quilts are graphically very powerful! Some directions to 
the quilts are included. I think it is a wonderful addition to my 

Ask for it for Christmas. You won't be disappointed.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ


Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:57:37 -0500
From: Newbie Richardson <pastcrafts@erols.com>

Dear Ark Quilts (sorry, you did not sign your name!)
Thank you for your post about the Alphabet quilt. I do think that 
tend to get caught up in looking at quilters/needlewomen of the past
with rose colored glasses. The vast majority of women from the last 
of the 19th c. on were not as creative and original as we would like 
think! They did not have to be! Why reinvent the wheel when all those
patterns were commercially available?
This is not only true for quilts, but clothing as well. I can't 
the number of near duplicate long white baby dresses I have seen,
catalogued, restored, appraised over the past 20 years! The same is 
for surviving children's clothes of the last third of the 19th/early
20th c. It all coincides with the Montgomery Ward/ Sears catalogs and
the concept of rural mail delivery.
True creativity is rare unless the artist is execeptional, or is
living in a vaccume, isolated from other influences. We all know how
many Gradmothers Flower Gardens and Double Wedding Rings there are 
there...trust me, the "copy cat" phenomenon started a whole lot 
the same is true in the other decorative arts.
Newbie Richardson