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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 02:05:14 +0000
From: "tammy smith" <sunshine__51hotmail.com>

~hey there everyone,
i just joined the list and i wanted to introduce myself. my name's 
i'm 22 and what i call a baby quilter. anything i've learned to do 
i've had 
to teach myself. awhile ago, i repaired and finished a quilt top made 
by my 
great-grandmother in the 1930's as a gift for my grandmother. i 
enjoyed that 
much more than i do making a quilt from scratch!
i'd love to learn anything i can about restoring old quilts and tops, 
but i 
haven't been able to find any good information for myself. i'd like 
to learn 
about fabric dating, quilting styles, quilt repair. i have a quilt 
made by 
my great-great grandmother that needs repair but i have really no 
idea where 
to start. i also have two other quilt tops (around the 30's ) that 
i'd like 
to finish properly. i really eager to start but totally clueless. 
anyone point me in the right direction? i'd really appreciate any 
starting out.
oh, and i saw this auction while i was poking around on ebay. maybe 
it's nothing, but the reserve for this "pre-civil war" era fabric is $88 
and i'm  currently winning it for $1.50. any of you are more than welcome to it.  (Click on the thumbnail)

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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:01:26 -0000
From: "Sally Ward" <Sally.D.Wardbtinternet.com>

Can anyone (privately) give me information on methodology of 
organising and
recording information acquired during quilt documentation in such a 
way that
it is most usefully accessible to those wishing to refer to the 
material in
the future, with particular reference to the use of computers. Is 
there any
kind of standard format in use in the States, or does anyone have 
preferences for a particular system, or warnings about pitfalls?

I know this is a 'how long is a piece of string' kind of question, 
but I
would very much welcome any and all input.

Sally Ward


Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:03:54 +1100
From: Lorraine Olsson <svenpnc.com.au>

To those who have asked about the fires here in the Blue Mountains 
elsewhere in NSW Australia, I thank you for your concern.

I have been very fortunate to be up wind of the fires and have 
not been personally affected by them. There are others on the list 
may not have fared so well. Ruth is right in the affected area, and 
not posted her whereabouts. There have been power failures in her 
so I am hoping this is her only problem.

The fires have been very savage, with major home and property losses. 
were totally isolated from the city for quite a while over the 
break, both of the roads and the railway were cut at times. My son,
Sven, was only able to visit by train, as they were running more 
than the roads were open.

Sven was back to his home in Sydney yesterday. He reports that the 
and falling ash are very strong where he lives. (he is about 20 km 
from the fires)

Once again thanks for your thoughts, I hope everyone else is having a
good holiday time,

Lorraine in Oz

Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:00:26 -0500
From: Lydia Hamessley <lhamesslhamilton.edu>

Hi all.

Does anyone know how I can get my hands on the 2002 quilt calendar 
from the
Shelburne Museum? I've bought one for the past two or three years, 
and I
just can't find one this year. I've tried the Shelburne web site -- 
luck. One year I bought one at the New England Quilt Museum, so I 
their web site -- but their "gift shop" isn't on-line. Any info 
would be
much appreciated -- since I'm beginning to wonder if they even put 
one out
this year.....


Lydia Hamessley, Associate Professor
Chair, Music Department
Hamilton College
198 College Hill Rd.
Clinton, NY 13323



Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:40:38 EST
From: SadieRoseaol.com

In 2001, several QHL members participated in a variation of the 
"block of 
the month" type program on Fabric History, offered by Margo from 
Reproductionfabrics.com. If any of you are interested in learning 
fabric history (what colors/motifs were common in different time 
and also the US history of the time periods, she is offering the 
Century Nines" program again for 2002. Several local friends & I did 
program in 2001, and really enjoyed it. You get a packet of fabrics 
month, that are typical of a decade, along with written info on the 
and social history for that decade. I think it started with 
1780-1790 and 
ended with 1890-1900. You are supposed to piece 6" Nine Patch blocks 
the fabrics. Some in our group are doing other sizes (after Dear 
Jane, I 
just couldn't handle those "huge" 6" blocks, so mine are 4 1/2" 
blocks :) 
Judy Thompson from QHL has been creating her own original applique 
using the fabrics sent. I also cut a 1 1/2" square of each fabric & 
on a page to go along with the printed history we were sent, and made 

notebook for future reference. For 2002, Margo is adding a new 
program "2 
Log Cabins" which will run for 6 months, and is a continuation of the 
Nineteenth Century Nines. This will cover the decades from 1900 to 
1950 (I 
think), with the same historical info. You can read more about these 
programs at the website http://www.reproductionfabrics.com If you 
want to 
do additional research on fabric history, my 2 favorite books are 
"Clues in 
the Calico" by Barbara Brackman, and "Dating Fabrics: A Color Guide 
1800-1960" by Eileen Jahnke Trestain. Many of the state quilt search 
also have good info on quilt/fabric history. No affiliation, just a 
customer :) 
A Happy & Pieceful New Year to everyone...
Karan from sunny but chilly Iowa 

Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:42:09 -0500
From: "judygrow" <judygrowrcn.com>

My younger son (not a baby -- he'll be 30 in October) is getting 
married in
June, here at our "farm." The "kids" had been looking for a country
setting, and after seeing and pricing the professional sites decided 
home was just as good, and the price was much better!

So we're well into the caterers and tent rentals, chairs and tables 
for the
reception, chairs and tent for the ceremony. Carin had been looking 
for a Chuppa to get married under, but found only frothy confections 
weren't her style at all. ( For those who don't know, a Chuppa is a 
canopy, open on 4 sides, under which a Jewish couple get married.If 
search GOOGLE you'll see the kind she turned down. Pronounce it as 
clearing your throat for authenticity.)

Here's where the story gets quilt related. Last year I bought a 
quilt top
on e-bay from judysue. Perhaps some of you saw it. It is a six 
star made of many triangles, some of which have Centennial fabric, on 
a dark
blue-green background. Appliqued in the open spaces are double pink 
made from our 19th century piecer's quilting templates.

Christmas day I had the brilliant idea --- I am sure you are already
there -- of making the Chuppa from the quilt top. With great fear 
trepidation I spread the quilt out on the bed in Justin's old 
bedroom, took
them upstairs and turned on the light. All I said was, "What do you 
and they both said, "The Chuppa!" So, lucky me, I've got another 

Justin will figure out how to make the 4 supports, but we figure they 
be 8 feet tall at the back, 9 feet at the front, so the quilt design 
can be
seen. Obviously the quilt will be upside down, or design side down.

I am thinking of constructing it this way -- I'll add a 12" border 
repro double pink ( using a largish machine stitch) then a lining, 
backing of double pink or Turkey red (there is red in the star, and 
bridesmaids and her mom will be in reds -- me too, or a very bright 
Then I'll birth it, close up the opening, tack it together in 
places, and then put a grommet in each of the 4 corners through the 
fabric. If I make the border big enough and put the grommets close 
to the
antique top I will have nice "drops" which I could even swag up in 
center. Definitely not a frothy confection!

I'm thinking maybe of putting an interlining or batting of that 
black-out material in it to give it more weight so a sudden breeze 
turn it into a sail, and to give it more protection from the sun and 
I'll be able to remove the borders, backing and batting easily 
after the
event and no harm will have come to the top -- I hope.

Justin will get 4"x4" posts and perhaps hand hew them to look old. A 
spike in the top of each will go through the grommets and we can get 
finials to screw on. And voila, a Chuppa!!! How do you say "Voila" 

Can any of you think of another way to do this?

I can't think of a nicer way to use this quilt. It didn't start out 
being a
Jewish star (it's definitely a Pa. quilt, perhaps Mennonite), but it 
will be
used that way! I hope Carin's folks will be ok with our folk-art 

I wish a much happier New Year for everyone on the list!

Judy in Ringoes, NJ


Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 05:14:11 -0800
From: "Susan Silva" <woodyomnicast.net>
Hi there all you quilters! I'd like to thank those folks that emailed 
back to make sure I was getting messages.
I think my problem is fixed so I look forward to connecting with all 
like minded quilters. My subject, "something that is really
bothering me" is this. I go to ebay and look under Antiques, 
textiles, then
quilts and lo and behold all I seem to be seeing
is foreign made, inexpensive stuff. Not antique quilts....Seems like 
have been a ton of them lately and of course
not a whole lot of bidding going on....My point is, doesn't ebay have 
kind of integrity issue as to antique vs new? These quilts are
certainly not antiques so how can they be sold in this 
Thanks for letting me spout some steam and it is so nice to be 
Susan C.Silva in Snowy Spokane Washington, who is glad she is not in 


Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:32:27 -0600
From: Xenia Cord <xenialegacyquilts.net>
To: Susan Silva 

Susan, you are "right on" about category 2221 on eBay - it is 
to be art & antiques: textiles, linens, quilts. There is just a lot
there that is in the wrong category. There is another category for
"collectible" quilts (947), I don't think eBay has any way to police
what is presented in the category. IMHO, much of what is being 
should have its own category, but politeness and the public airways
prevent me from giving it a name <g>.

I do know that recently sellers of print materials objected to the
presence of reprints in their category, and eBay said reprints could 
allowed - this seems to be a similar situation. The only defense is 
avoid bidding on the new stuff, search diligently for the good 
and get to know who the reputable sellers are (some of whom are on 
list). We can only hope the sellers of Pacific Rim knockoffs will 
tired of offering.

There! That's my last uncharitable comment for the year, and I 
to be nicer next year (or at least keep my opinions to myself!)

Xenia, in Indiana (bitter cold, no snow)


Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:37:20 EST
From: DDBSTUFFaol.com

Here is the link to Amazon.com's listing of this calendar:

Shelburne Museum Quilt Calendar



Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:38:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Judy Schwender <sister3603yahoo.com>

This is coming up this week on PBS. I haven't seen it
yet (I work at a PBS station) but Macaulay is usually
pretty good. Check your local listings for air time
in your area.

Mill Times

Wednesday, January 2, 2002 (8-9:00 pm)

Renowned author-illustrator David Macaulay hosts a
whirlwind journey through the industrial revolution,
beginning with the founding of America's first textile
mill in the 1790s and ending in modern times. (CC, Stereo

Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:09:56 -0600
From: "Leigh Fellner" <hcquiltspeoplepc.com>

As an ebay seller (and buyer) myself I understand people's 
frustration with
the Antiques/Art:Textiles:Quilts section being flooded with quilts 
that are
neither antiques nor art, and with the number of quilts being badly
misrepresented as to age and origin, which I see as separate issues. 
partner is, fortunately, amused by my nightly bouts of shouting at 
monitor regarding one auction or another. A recent one claimed a 
polyester doubleknit coverlet was an "antique". When I inquired 
the seller informed me that "ebay says anything more than 30 years 
old is an
antique". Aside from the fact that I realized that by those criteria 
I must
be something of an ancient artifact myself, Ebay does nothing of the 

Anyway, the alternative in either case is to have ebay act as de 
appraiser on virtually every item listed in this category. Do any of 
really want to invest ebay's "customer service reps" (CSRs) - who 
gladly supply you with conflicting, yet apparently engraved-in-stone,
answers to any basic procedural question - with the responsibility of
deciding which quilts are "art", which are merely collectible, and 
should be relegated to the "bedding" category? I can't imagine that 
such an informed group as the QHL could easily reach a consensus on
criteria; add to the mix the average bidder, in whose eyes a
Chinese-manufactured Shelburne Museum repro - or that polyester 
coverlet - may indeed be Art, and you are liable to end up with 
satisfied and everybody mad.

Worse, would we want to trust ebay's CSRs with making judgments as to 
authenticity, origin, age, or market value of an item, particularly 
such judgment would necessarily be based on some of the abysmal 
that accompany many of these auctions?

Even assuming such criteria could be developed, does any of us - as 
bidder or seller - want to pay ebay for the additional costs of such 
"service" - including those of the litigation against ebay which 
invariably follow from bidders who foolishly trusted ebay's 
assessment, and
from sellers who felt their business had been given the shaft thanks 
to an
uninformed CSR?

Asking ebay to police each auction - or even to pull auctions which 
parties claim are misrepresented - is more than grossly impractical. 
word would one take? That of the seller, who has the item in hand 
but has
an investment in claiming its authenticity; or of another party, who 
may or
may not be disinterested and who may have more, or less, knowledge 
than the
seller?). It leaves the door open to bogus reports by a seller's
competitors. I know of several (non-textile) sellers whose 
competitors have
sabotaged their auctions by making impossibly high bids, winning the
auction, not paying, and then leaving negative feedback, and whose 
of authorized copyrighted material (e.g., Chanel handbags) have been 
down when a competitor claimed the item was a knockoff (a VERO 
Before ebay instituted rules regarding auction interfererence, 
sellers could
email their competitors' bidders claiming an item was a fake or that 
seller would steal their money. Unscrupulous parties do not need 
ammunition handed to them in the form of "misrepresentation" claims
arbitrated by ebay wonks.

As at any auction, estate sale - or antique shop, for that matter - 
the only
real protection a buyer has is to EDUCATE HERSELF, not only as to 
whether an
item is accurately described, but whether the seller has a reputation
(feedback), method of presentation, and terms of service imply that 
she is
both knowledgeable and professional regarding the type of item in 
If you have doubts, ask questions and obtain a satisfaction guarantee
(including, perhaps, a certified appraisal) BEFORE you bid.

Finally, if you limit yourself to scrolling patiently through any 
category to find items, rather than doing a carefully-constructed 
search throughout all listings, you run a good chance of missing out 
on the
best buys of the day. Many of the "misrepresented" items that appear 
in the
"wrong" category are misdescribed and mislisted by sellers who 
haven't got a
clue what they've got. Misrepresentation, it seems, cuts both ways. 
aren't we bidders who find such gems grateful for it!


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:03:05 +0000
From: quiltsnbearsatt.net

You have a point ...the bidder has to make an educated 
decision on the item they wish to acquire.Even when 
correctly described an item may not live up to the 
winner's expectations. Sorry, people, but what is worth 
owning is worth working for...even if it *is* just 
running through hundreds of items on Ebay!;)
Check the sellers feedback as added insurance.
Roberta in FL


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:55:54 -0500
From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdocsover.net>

Judy, Your Chuppa idea sounds great. Some time ago, I was at a 
wedding where
the guests were asked ahead of time to make a quilt block for a 
chuppa which
was later turned into a quilt for the bride and groom. There was a 
on the top of the chuppa, the outside drop had blocks all around and 
rest of the squares could be seen from the inside. It was very basic 
protected the bride and groom from the 98 degree outdoor temperature 
in NH
in June.

If the star top were mine, I would be concerned about the weight of 
the room
darkening lining resting on the old fabric. To solve the wind 
problem, you
need a few double pink thumb tacks to anchor the bottom edges of the 
pink border to the poles. A painting job for Alan! (Only kidding.)

Are you also making the wedding dress, the bride's maids dresses, the 
of the bride dress and your dress as well as new curtains for the 
house and
finishing the quilting on the gift? LOL!

Jan Drechsler in Vermont
Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:17:00 -0500
From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdocsover.net>

Our local Brattleboro, VT newspaper ran this in a recent editorial 

The Westminster first and second graders had a writing assignment 
last week.
They were asked to list the gifts that they would like to give to the 
this holiday season. Here is what one child wrote:

'I will give to the world a present for the kids. I will give the 
world a
protective dog. I will give the world friends so they will not 
fight. I
will give the world some money so they can buy some food. I will 
give the
world some food so they will not be hungry. I will give the world 
some sun
to keep warm. I will give the world some books to read.'

Read it and weep. A child's wish for a happy new year.

Jan Drechsler in chilly Vermont
Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:03:25 +0000
From: quiltsnbearsatt.net
Wishing everyone peace in 2002.
Roberta in FL


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:01:26 -0500
From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawleydmv.com>

I went to see the 20th annual QUILTS=ART=QUILTS exhibit at the
Schweinfurth Memorial Art Center in Auburn, NY. I'd heard about it 
years and this year the timing was perfect since we built an extra 
day into
our Christmas trip to Upstate NY.
I knew it was going to be a good day when we arrived in 
Skaneateles, one
of the prettiest villages in an area filled with Greek Revival gems, 
just in
time for lunch at Doug's Fish Fry--heaven! I am really tempted to 
on about the Finger Lakes, but this is a quilt list,after all.
Quilts=Art=Quilts is a national juried show held every year from 
Nov. until the first week in Jan. The work of more than 100 
quiltmakers was
displayed in a wonderful gallery setting. The quilts represented just 
everything contemporary quilters are doing from functional bed quilts 
garments to art quilts. I am kicking myself that I missed the first 
shows; it won't happen again.
I was surprised and gratified (because those are the kind of 
quilts I
make) that Best of Show went to the quilt which received the blue 
ribbon for
best traditional quilt. Some of the innovative quilts were just 
They gave awards for innovation in three catagories (composition and 
surface treatment and use of color), so there was a lot to think 
There were a couple of pieces I'd seen before: Victorian Innocence 
and the
Jane (?) McCray quilt (the one that tells the story of the girl who 
scalped by Indians). Most, however, were new to me and, in general, 
wonderful. It really is a national show. Looking at the program I 
quilters from NY, PA, VT, south to GA and FL, west to TX and CA with 
MI and other states representing the Midwest, quite a few Canadians 
To top off the excursion, the Cayuga Museum, literally next door 
to the
gallery was showing some of its collection of antique quilts, most 
for the
local area. My favorite was a very simple, and very early (c.1830) 
patch with fabulous toile borders. anytime I can see large pieces 
of early
toile I hyperventilate. Another special quilt was a wild mid-19th 
strippy (I took a picture Hazel); I'm always surprised to see one 
outside of
PA. The icing on the cake was that the house has a spectacular 
Happy New Year everyone!
Cinda on the Eastern Shore


ate: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:06:11 
From: "Anne Copeland" <anneappraiserhotmail.com>

Hi, I got this wierd e-mail the other day that said my e-mail off 
this list 
has been SPAM harvested robotically. I have never had a message like 
so didn't know what to do. Has anyone else gotten a message like 
this one?

Anyway, I want to take this time to wish each and every one of you 
the very 
best life has to offer for the New Year and all the years to follow. 
and blessings always, Annie


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:35:03 EST
From: Midnitelaptopaol.com

i think lynn hit the "nail on the head"...with making sure about a 
policy(in writing)...
.i'm not an ebay kind of shopper...it sort of sounds like internet 
the seller can describe the quilt/article in glowing terms..which may 
or may 
not be exactly the truth...sometimes.. not even close to the truth...
it certainly sounds like a "buyer beware" kind of setup.


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:43:01 EST
From: Palamporeaol.com

Cinda, I just read your notes on your trip and had the best time! 
You give 
such wonderful fantasy trips. Thanks.
You mentioned a strippy.... I just bought an interesting strippy on 
It is 1840ish chintz. All of the chintz is one brown glazed chintz, 
and it 
is zigzagged with white/off-white cotton. Have never seen one with 
only 2 
fabrics in it. It came from NH. It is not in great shape, but I 
really like it. The blocks of chintz are 5 1/2 inch squares set on 
diagonal with 1/2 triangles of white forming the whole strip. Once 
these are 
sewn together they create a zig-zag. There is just a wisp of batting 
in it. 
The quilting is 9 stitches (on top) per inch. The binding looks 
It is of the white/off-white cotton on the bias. The white part is 
in a sig-zag. The center of each chintz piece is 4 petals that meet 
in the 
center quilted in a double line around. 
My best to all for the coming year.
Lynn Lancaster Gorges


Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 00:50:16 -0500
From: "Kris Driessen, QuiltBus.com" <oldquiltalbanyweb.com>

Be really careful about responding to this sort of thing. If you 
click on 
the link in the E-mail, you are just confirming your address and 
put on hundreds of thousands of more lists!


At 03:06 AM 1/1/2002 +0000, Anne Copeland wrote:
>Hi, I got this wierd e-mail the other day that said my e-mail off 
>list has been SPAM harvested robotically. I have never had a 
message like 
>this so didn't know what to do. Has anyone else gotten a message 
>this one?
>Anyway, I want to take this time to wish each and every one of you 
>very best life has to offer for the New Year and all the years to 
>follow. Peace and blessings always, Annie

Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:29:43 EST
From: aol.com

And may 2002 bring us all the fabric of our dreams, whether it be 
silk, cotton, or the joys of a life well lived. Happy New Year, and God 
bless - 

Karen Evans