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Subject: quick response From: "Jean Carlton" <jeancarlton@att.net> Date: Sun, 7 

Once again I am grateful for this list - what a resource! I got the page numbers I needed within 15 minutes! Thanks, jean


Subject: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Miss Flora M'Flimsey # 6) From: 

A nor'easter, shoveling, the Army-Navy game, and preparing meals for my daughter (the new mother) took the bulk of my day. Little time was left to devote to Flora. This last part of the Flora legend is a dose of real-life therapy for 1857. sue reich

And when she proposed to finish the season At Newport, the monster refused out and out, For his infamous conduct alleging no reason, Except that the waters were good for his gout; Such treatment as this was too shocking, of course, And proceedings are now going on for divorce.

But why harrow the feelings by lifting the curtain From these scenes of wo? Enough it is certain, Has been here disclosed to stir up the pity Of every benevolent heart in the city. And spur up Humanity into a canter To rush and relieve these sad cases instanter. Won’t somebody, moved by this touching description, Come forward to-morrow and head a subscription? Won’t some kind philanthropist, seeing that aid is So needed at once by these indigent ladies, Take charge of the matter? Or won’t Peter Cooper The corner stone lay of some splendid super- Structures like what to-day links his name In the Union unending of honor and fame; And found a new charity just for the care Of these unhappy women with nothing to wear. Which, in view of the cash would daily be claimed, The Laying-out Hospital well might be named? Won’t Stewart, or some of our dry goods importers, Take contract for clothing our wives and our daughters? Or, to furnish the cash to supply these distresses, And life’s pathway strew with shawls, collars, and dresses, Ere the want of them makes it much rougher and thornier? Won’t some one discover a new California?

Oh ladies, dear ladies, the next sunny day Please trundle your hoops just out of Broadway, From its whirl and its bustle, its fashion and pride, And the temples of Trade which tower on each side, To the alleys and lanes where Misfortune and Guilt Their children have gathered, their city have built; Where hunger and Vice, like twin beasts of prey, Have haunted their victims to glom and despair; Raise the rich, dainty dress, and fine broidered Skirt. Pick your delicate way through the dampness and dirt, Grope through the dark den, cling to the rickety stairs To the garret, where wretches, the young and the old, Half starved and half naked, lie crouched from the cold. See those skeleton limbs, those frost bitten feet, All bleeding and bruised by the stones of the street; Hear, the sharp cry of childhood, the deep groans that swell Hear the curses that sound like the echoes of Hell, As you sicken and shudder and fly from the door; The home to your wardrobes, and say, if you dare – Spoiled children of Fashion – you’ve nothing to wear!

And oh, if perchance there should be a sphere, Where all is made right which so puzzles us here, Where the glare and the glitter, and tinsel of Time Fade and die in the light of that region sublime, Unscreened by its trappings, and shows, and pretense, Must be clothed for the life and the service above, With purity, truth, faith, meekness, and love; Oh, daughters of earth ! foolish virgins, beware! Lest in that upper realm you have nothing to wear!


Subject: Queen Victoria sewing needles From: "khicks1" <khicks1@prodigy.net> 

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

I recently learned of a Queen Victoria branded set of sewing needles = while on ebay (QUEEN VICTORIA GOLD EY'D SHARPS). Are these a current or = older, discontinued brand of sewing needles? Has anyone ever heard of = these? 

Thanks for your insights!

Kyra Hicks


Subject: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (The gift of a fir pillow from the forests 

Still looking for a gift idea for that special someone who has everything. This idea seemed quite popular in 1885. sue reich

Daily Nevada State Journal Reno, Nevada October 11, 1885

THE LATEST CRAZE Despoiling the Forests of Maine that “Fir Pillows” May Adorn City Mansions.

The reign of the crazy quilt was over. The log-cabin had died a natural death long since. The Afghan, like the Dutch Republic, has had its rise and fall. Scrim aprons had passed the meridian of a healthy life. Kensington of all sorts had been buried with the change of fashion. All enthusiasm for the minor articles of fancy work has been laid away in ice for Winter use. There had come a lull in the life of woman. The non-accomplished felt a void in her life that no duties to lover, husband or children could fill. A foreigner from the region of New York or New Haven came to the shores of Maine, writes a correspondent at Castine. A few magic words are whispered, and all are on the alert. The idea assumes a substantial form and is a grand success. Linen, canvas, pongee, satin and plushes are in great demand. Embroidery flosses of every conceivable shade are bought out. 

Our woods are devastated. Our firs, and even pines and spruces, by mistake, are shorn of their beauty. The twigs of the fire are greedily torn from their mother tree by tender fingers unused the scratches and pitch. Men and women who formerly knew not a pine from a birch search for the tender green spill. Languid youths glory in the title of Knights of the Fir, won by their arduous labor in the cause of the fair. Never a day passes that one sees not some lady or middle-aged gentleman toiling up the hill, bent under the weight of a load of fir. No regard for appearances prevents women, young and old, from walking through the streets with whole fir forests strapped to their backs. Dried in the sunlight the branches of the fir fill the air with the sweetest of perfumes. The spills falling from their stems form a brown, fragrant carpet. 

Now the embroidered case appears. An inner case of unbleached cotton is filled with the fir, the pillow-case is slipped on, sewed, a neat ribbon bow tacked on one corner and voila! We have the fir pillow. Various are the devices on the pillow-case. Perhaps there is a branch, a symbol of the fir tree or a forest on a scale. More often it is a quotation, as: “Give me of your balm, O fir tree!” “The murmuring pines and the hemlocks,” “Dreams of the forest” and “The breath of the fir we have always with us.” Besides their intrinsic worth, which is from $3 to $5, they valuable for gifts, and are far superior to the ordinary sofa pillow. If the sweet soporine influence lulls us right within the shades of the pines to pleasant sleep, it must, indeed, be a bonanza to those within the city’s gates. Oft has the uninitiated, a scoffer of the virtues of the fir pillow, thrown himself upon the sofa and buried his head in an inoffensive looking pillow. 

Slowly but surely the sweet influence steals over his senses, he yields to the magic of its charm, and sees the Maine coast, perchance old Castine which first gave birth to the pillow of fir. There he sees a colony of young and old, each “pulling” fir. The mother to send her boy in the city, and the young girl to place beneath the aching head of her troubled father; the old man for a sweet restorer for the tired nerves of his invalid wife. The dreams of a hasheesh smoker must be vague and undefined as those enticed from dreamland by the soothing balm of the fir. In strong contrast with the heat, the dust, the cares of business and the moving crowd are the ripple and sparkle of waves, the fragrance-laden zephyrs, the quiet aisles of the woods, the lightness of the brain free from care. Beautiful memories brought from the home of the fir. From Maine to California are these redolent pillows sent. A welcome gift are they among luxuries of a Paris home. They dispel the fog from the London air. They are born to the land of ice by the Artic explorer. They are a pillow for the heads of Maine’s sailor sons upon the swelling ocean, and in the heat of the tropics they waft homeward the thought of her exiled children


Subject: Re: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (The gift of a fir pillow from the 

I believe you can still get balsam-stuffed pillows at Olde Newe Englande Gifte Shoppes, the same sorts of places that sell maple syrup, cheddar cheese, and quahog jewelry. Or balsam-stuffed cats. I believe they're supposed to promote restful sleep.

As for the forests of Maine, they're still there the last time I looked...:)

Lisa Evans Easthampton, Massachusetts (NOT Maine)

PS - in case anyone's curious, we got about ten inches of snow this weekend. It was much worse in Boston (around twenty inches) and the southern coast. I'm just glad I didn't have to shovel the deck to keep it from collapsing....


Subject: Re: from paris From: Mercynun@aol.com Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:02:23 

Bonjour, Will from Paris! I just returned from a trip to Paris. I had planned to visit the flea market and the fabric district my last day in Paris and in my excitement, I fell down the last two steps while walking out of my hotel and injured my foot. I could not walk and was in a lot of pain so I spent my last day in bed.

This was my second trip and I will be making one more next year. My husband is a student at ESC Grenoble, now renamed Grenoble Ecole de Management. We have been taking French lessons and I was able to communicate a little bit.

I am particulary interested in quilts from the era of the American Civil War (1860's). I have been collecting Civil War era reproduction fabrics. I also like fabrics from the Great American Depression. I have begun a small collection of feed sack fabrics. My mother remembers wearing dresses made of that fabric as a young girl.

Welcome to the list. I am mostly a lurker as I am also in Graduate School. I teach Kindergarten and am working on a Masters Degree in Education and certification as a reading specialist.

Au Revoir! Cindy Lambert


Subject: 1885 Crazy Quilt fad over From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdoc@sover.net> 

Hi Sue,

I bet that 1885 Nevada newspaper article which declared the reign of the crazy quilt fad finished dismayed many women who had yet to embroider the finish date on their silk and velvet master piece.

'Reno, Nevada October 11, 1885

The reign of the crazy quilt was over. '

And it would have also distressed many Massachusetts & Connecticut River Valley Quilters!

Jan where we only got about 16 inches of snow in the storm

-- Jan Drechsler in Vermont Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher www.sover.net/~bobmills


Subject: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Ornamental piano key covers) From: 

How fanciful a Christmas gift would this little item be!!! I think that we all have time to whip out at least one to grace the baby grand of a friend or relative for Christmas. I think this is a most elegant gift idea. sue

Decatur Daily Republican Decatur, Illinois March 1, 1886

Ornamental covers for piano keys serve to keep out the dust, and every one who can play at all knows the advantage of a well-dusted piano and how prejudicial this said dust is to the notes. Handsome pieces of embroidery are now to be seen on keys; a specially handsome one recently exhibited was made of white satin and plush. On the satin was worked a flowing geometrical pattern in gold thread, and in the middle, in black and white silks, a music scroll. The lines and spaces were marked out in the fine black (or dark blue) silk and a few notes were put between them. The whole had a border of one and one-half inches in width, in white plush, all round. Other key covers not so difficult to make, and with nearly as handsome effect are all plush of a color to correspond or contrast with the piano back and the colors of the drawing room. Along this a pretty spray of flowers or fruit is worked in crewel silks, such as a black or dark colored plush and a spray of Virginian creeper leaves. Bramble leaves, berries and fruit have a beautiful effect on the pale blue or green plush. If neatness and quaintness are preferred to more elaborate embroidery, repeat the black notes on white satin with black velvet. Those ladies who would like a motto better than any other design will find many suitable for the purpose. Quilted satin is rich and handsome, and requires after the quilting is once done, but little dainty work. Most of the covers are only laid along the keys, and are the exact size of them; a strip could, however, easily be sewn along one side and fall over to protect the edge of the keys. Feathers tacked closely down are warm and soft-looking, especially if the colors and shades of color are properly arranged. For a school room pianoforte, patchwork properly lined would have the same effect as the more fanciful drawing room elegancies; or even colored flannel lightly wadded – on layer only of wadding – may be made ornamental by means of a little embroidery in feather and other fancy stitches. N.Y.


Subject: Re: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Ornamental piano key covers) 

Good grief.

Why not just close the lid?

Sally W


Subject: Re: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Ornamental piano key covers) 

<<Why not just close the lid?>>

As a pianist, I must agree! lol

I've seen piano covers (for the top of a grand, especially the square = grands of the Victorian period), but I've never seen a keyboard cover = such as was described.


Subject: Mary Barton From: Litwinow@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:03:22 EST 

I have just recieved word that Mary Barton of Des Moines, Iowa has died. What a legacy she has left. Her "Heritage Quilt" was selected as one of the Centuries best. (page 43, The 20th Sentury's Best American Quilts). She gave many quilts to the Living History Farms in Des Moines and the bulk of her collection is still being cataloqued at the Iowa State Historical Museum.



Subject: Latest Report from the Midwest Fabric Dating Study Group From: 

The Midwest Fabric Dating Study Group met on November 22 for a wondrous weekend devoted to the study of 300 years of chintz. Xenia Cord was our pre= senter and shared with us her extensive library, numerous examples of chintz fabric= , glorious pre-1850 quilts and her wealth of research and knowledge. We met in=  Fishers, IN at the Frederick Talbott Inn, a delightful bed-and-breakfast tha= t caters to a quilter's every need! Located across the road from Conner Prairi= e, a living history museum, the Inn provides comfortable accommodations and a meeting room that is used for classes and retreats. Many of us got an early= start and visited one (or more) of the nearby quilt shops. We then gathered at 4 p.m. for an early dinner traveling to Grindstone Charley's in nearby Noblesville. After a leisurely meal for fortification, we returned to the In= n to begin our study.

Our study focused on 3 types of fabrics from India: palampores, whole cloth quilts and yardage - and we learned that "a piece of chintz" was actually 28=  yards long and up to 10=BD feet wide. We saw a reproduction palampore depict= ing the familiar tree growing out of a hillock against a light background. The f= irst quilt (early 19th century) was a huge 130" square with a backing of China blue fabrics, a wool batting and a monochrome brown toile on the front. Next= was a much smaller crib-size quilt (late 18th century) made from an imported French handkerchief of multi-colored floral chintz. The quilt had no batting= and was quilted on the diagonal with a linen backing. Xenia shared a mysterious bundle of block-printed chintz fabrics from the Bannister Hall printworks in=  London that were purchased at an AQS auction. The fabrics have since been da= ted and authenticated by the archivist at Bannister Hall, now Stead, McAlpin in London.

After a good night's sleep and a hearty buffet brunch, we continued our stud= y on Sunday morning with an 1820's coverlet consisting of vertical rows of blu= e and white flying geese separated by panels of red toile. The coverlet was very heavy and was bordered by a hand woven and tied fringe. A whole cloth F= rench "Banne" followed which was meant to lie on top of the bed only without any drape or overlay. Next was a whole cloth quilt of American chintz in the "Trailing Vine" pattern with a twill tape binding. A quilt made of French ca= lico (early 19th century) and approximately 116" x 121" had exquisite quilting, a= brown glazed fabric on the back and a very coarse binding which was suggested to b= e horsehair. The last quilt (1840's) was a spectacular pieced quilt of 4 patches and half square triangles, unused and unwashed, with a floral chintz= border and a great variety of brown chintz and other period fabrics. By this time w= e were on sensory overload and so very thankful that Xenia's recent flood had not irreparably damaged these fine fabrics and quilts. Thanks also to Peg Whitmore's amazing husband who provided us with date pinwheels.

We will continue our study of chintz by traveling to view the exhibit "Calic= o and Chintz: Antique Quilts from the Collection of Patricia S. Smith" at the Speedway Museum in Louisville, KY. Our scheduled date for this next meeting= is Saturday, January 17, with the 24th as a snow date.


Subject: Re: Latest Report from the Midwest Fabric Dating Study Group From: "Judy 

>Thanks also to Peg >Whitmore's amazing husband who provided us with date pinwheels.


Please elaborate. What is a date pinwheel? I think I've got it figured out, but would like to be sure. And thanks for your description of the day. Cinda, move over! Thanks

Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrow@patmedia.net


Subject: Re: Mary Barton From: Marilyn Woodin <woodin@kctc.net> Date: Tue, 09 

Thank you for this post. Mary Barton was an inspiration to thoseof us, younger than she, who were trying to study quilt history in Iowa in the early days. She was one who did nitty gritty work of taking damaged quilts and working to find their cloth history as well as their maker history.

Those of us in Iowa should see that the collection at Iowa"s State Historical Museum will be continued to be cataloged and help in any way we can as a tribute to this fine Iowa lady.

Thanks Mary, I'm sure Heaven will be a special place for you and I will remember. Marilyn Woodin


Subject: ILL system From: Judy White <jawhite@infionline.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 

A week or so ago, Sue Reich was talking about the interlibrary loan system and she asked if she could cross state lines with the system. I never saw an answer to her question, but I would be interested to know if it is possible to get books from other state libraries. I believe it is, but I'm not sure.

Judy White


Subject: RE: ILL system From: "Candace Perry" <candace@schwenkfelder.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:23:59 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

Our library is on the ILL system and we recieve requests from all over the country, so I would say yes! Candace Perry Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center


Subject: RE: ILL system From: Kittencat3@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 

I've gotten books from California through my local interlibrary loan system. It shouldn't be a problem.

Lisa Evans Easthampton, Massachusetts


Subject: Have you seen this fabric? From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmv@yahoo.com> 

Hello! I saw a state birds fabric print that was very different from the series of state bird/flower prints designed by Suzanne at Quilts & Other Comforts.

This fabric has all of the different state birds printed on it -- about 1" or so tall birds. It comes in 2 colorways, one has a light blue background and the other is a tan background. I have been looking for it all week, cannot find out which company manufactured it or a source to purchase it from.

Anyone out there seen this particular state birds fabric? Thanks--Connie Ark from Ohio where we don't have snow but we do have about 4 inches of mud!


Subject: RE: ILL system From: "Mary Persyn" <Mary.Persyn@valpo.edu> Date: Wed, 

The Interlibrary loan system is actually world-wide. For example, we can get books or articles from Great Britain for our students, assuming they are willing to wait for the items to arrive.

The question then becomes what your local libraries' policies are for obtaining ILL materials for their patrons. Some libraries, usually on account of funding or staffing, prefer to limit their ILL requests to in-state or nearby states. Another question is whether your library provides ILL for free or if they charge you the cost of the borrowing. Again, this usually depends on the state of their funding. A third point is whether a library will borrow (or lend) certain types of materials. For example, some libraries won't lend genealogy materials, some libraries won't borrow current fiction. It all depends on the policies of your library.

Many libraries use the OCLC system for interlibrary loan. I just checked the website (www.oclc.org) and OCLC's database contains the records for over 52 million items from 9,000 libraries worldwide. You can find just about anything in Worldcat, OCLC's database. You might want to see if your local library has Worldcat access for its' patrons, just to see what is available.

Every once in a while, there is a question that falls into my area of expertise. (+:

Mary (who supports her quilting habit by working as a librarian)

___________________________________________ Mary G. Persyn Law Librarian & Associate Professor of Law School of Law Library Valparaiso University 656 S. Greenwich St. Valparaiso, IN 46383 mary.persyn@valpo.edu phone: 219-465-7830 fax: 219-465-7917


Subject: Re: Quilt Restoration DVDs From: "Nancy Kirk" 

I got a call yesterday morning -- the first 4-disc DVD set on Quilt Restoration is on its way here from the replicator! Now it's time to take a deep breath and get ready to market a new product in a format that most of the quilt distributors have never even carried.

We taped 18 hours at the Quilt Restoration Workshop last fall, and then edited them down to a tight six hours of instruction, taking out all the practice time, all the time moving quilts on and off the tables, and all the back and forth between the students.

It was done by two professional documentary filmmakers and then turned into interactive DVDs with menus so the student can jump around from subject to subject.

I had to learn a lot about editing, compression, working with the cover artist, getting that charming UPC code, and deciding among the various types of boxes and packaging -- who knew there were so many details? Thankfully, the filmmakers, artist and replicators knew what they were doing. And now the first 500 copies are on a UPS truck and barring an accident or hitting a big snow storm, they are making their way to Omaha!

There is a pre-publication offer on our website at www.kirkcollection.com if you'd like to see the cover and review the contents. It's really geared for people who want to mend their own quilts as well as people thinking of making a career in restoration.

It includes a disc on dating fabrics and quilts and another on cleaning storage and display, so we're hoping shops will carry it so they can offer some help to all those folks who come in expecting their local quilt shop to know how to fix their antique quilts.

Will deeply appreciate it if you will help pass the word that it is available. Shops will be able to order from the major quilt distributors in January, and we found a distributor who will handle the Borders, Amazon and Blockbuster type stores so people can special order through them.

We're planning to do it all again at the Advanced Restoration Workshop this spring, so we should have the second set ready next fall.

Happy holidays everyone.


Nancy Kirk The Kirk Collection www.kirkcollection.com


Subject: ILL system From: Joan Kiplinger <jkip@ncweb.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 

Judy -- yes, most libraries will search nationwide to get your book. All the ones I've received have been from libraries ranging from West Coast to East Coast, North & South. :-)

Judy White wrote:

>A week or so ago, Sue Reich was talking about the interlibrary loan >system and she asked if she could cross state lines with the system. I >never saw an answer to her question, but I would be interested to know >if it is possible to get books from other state libraries. I believe it >is, but I'm not sure. > > > >


Subject: Lowell mill girls From: Joan Kiplinger <jkip@ncweb.com> Date: Wed, 10 

There is a great article in the Jan. issue of The Quilter by Pat Cummings about the life of the girls who worked in the Lowell mill system. So much history packed into such few pages.

There is also a TV movie coming up next month on HBO about women's suffrage and the working girl called Iron-jawed Women. From the trailer it appears some of the action takes place in textile mills.

> >


Subject: Re: Have you seen this fabric? From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmv@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:27:24 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 9

I have discovered that the fabric is called State birds/symbols in the American Beauty line from Marcus Brothers. It probably came out last year, and might still be available. THANK YOU! 


Subject: Tootin' My Horn! From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdoc@sover.net> Date: Wed, 10 


Can't help tootin' my horn!! No author has ever featured me as a quilter on their web-page before and I'm excited. If you want to see what makes me smile, go to:


And while it's not my instrument, the reminder of trumpets, French horns and snow always brings back to me wonderful Christmas memories. Wishing you and yours a delighful and peaceful holiday season.

Jan -- Jan Drechsler in Vermont Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher www.sover.net/~bobmills


Subject: Historic Deerfield quilt exhibit news From: "Lynne Z. Bassett" 

Dear Friends,

I just wanted to let those of you who are interested know that the publication for the Historic Deerfield quilt exhibition is now (finally!!) available from the museum bookstore.

Also, due to budget cuts, Historic Deerfield will be closed to the public except on weekends from January through March. If you want to see the quilt exhibit after the first of the new year, you need to go on a weekend. The exhibit will close at the beginning of February.

Happy holidays! Lynne Bassett


Subject: Re: Tootin' My Horn! From: "Maurice Northen" <3forks@highstream.net> 

Wow.!! Those of us who do the same thing, love this recognition for one "of us."

Along with recognition, I just returned from making my last shopping items at Hobby Lobby. Diane Phalen and Rebecca Barker both have published "quilt jigsaw puzzles" on sale. Perfect for my quilting corner Christmas, this year. In addition, I found resin figures with the patchwork clothing on sale. My previous purchases where not on sale. Made by Heartwood Creek from Jim Shore, a specialty product. In addition, there are quilting bags, and papers to "tie it all together." Hit those stores, quilters!!

Joan of the South, where it is lovely today.


Subject: "shipwreck"quilts From: "Allison Labarbera" <allison@classiccottons.com> 

Has anyone ever heard of :Shipwreck" Quilts? I recently received 2 = quilts ( on loan) originally made in Stonington CT area in the late = 1800's. The first is a Postage Stamp Quilt made from fabrics that date = to the late 1860's, the second is a Log Cabin quilt from before 1900. = The owner of the quilts stated that both were likely made from fabrics = that were salvaged from ships that were wrecked in the area. The fabric = was shared by the people in the community and are know as "Shipwreck = Quilts" I was hoping to verify this story or obtain any information you might = have about the quilts or fabrics from this time period.



Subject: Re: "shipwreck"quilts From: Kittencat3@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 

A. Never heard of it.

B. I'd be more inclined to think that the quilts were part of the ship's equipment than made from salvaged fabric.

C. It sounds like folklore, but interesting folklore. Does anyone know anything concrete?

Lisa Evans Easthampton, MA


Subject: Nancy Kirk DVD offer From: "Maurice Northen" <3forks@highstream.net> 

There is a pre-publication offer on our website at=20 www.kirkcollection.com if you'd like to see the cover and review the=20 contents. It's really geared for people who want to mend their own=20 quilts as well as people thinking of making a career in restoration

Wow! Nancy I did not find an order form on the web.=20 Help! Santa will be so pleased !!!



Subject: "shipwreck"quilts side info From: "Pepper Cory" <pepcory@mail.clis.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:23:00 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16

What a great subject for research! Here on the Carolina coast ("the graveyard of the Atlantic") those island-dwellers from Hattarras and Ocracoke salvaged anything and everything from shipwrecks. I was on Ocracoke Island once visiting with the local quilt group. They met at the home of "Mz Mary,' a venerable who was a young 90 yrs. old at the time. Mz Mary's small average-looking cottage was easy to find but when I walked in, the interior took my breath away. The living room/dining room was sheathed in solid teak boards! Miz Mary said that as a newly wed in 1931, she and her husband were given 'first picking rights' on the wreck of the Proteus, a pleasure yacht that went down and swept up on Ocracoke. They took all the teak decking and lined their house. I later looked up the wreck of the Proteus to verify the story. My advice-listen to the family history and then extrapolate. After dating the fabrics from the shipwreck quilts, ask what wrecks went down in that area? If commercial vessels, what was the cargo? A local Marine museum or historical society should be helpful. Now I think it's a good choice for Carolina coast research! Merry Christmas from Beaufort NC where the "Beaufort Air Force" (migrating pelicans that come into town for Christmas and stay till St. Patrick's Day) have just arrived. Pepper Cory


Subject: RE: "shipwreck"quilts From: "Candace Perry" <candace@schwenkfelder.com> 

I think, from somewhere in my travels, you can research ships that wrecked in the vicinity and what they were carrying. I think there are records of this. Reports had to be filed for insurance claims by the shipping companies. Perhaps Mystic Seaport has the references...most maritime museums, I'm sure could shed some light on this. Might be a long shot, but it's worth a try. Candace Perry (dredging up info from a past life near the Outer Banks!)


Subject: QHL: Maine Fir Pillows Today From: seater@mindspring.com Date: Wed, 10 

Dear, dear List, I love what I learn from you.

You may be interested to know that fir pillows in the simple basic form (not embroidered) have not disappeared. On Deer Isle, down Penobscot Bay from Castine, in the village of Sunset, a group of women in 1835 started meeting as the Martha Washington Temperance & Benevolence Society. Among other activities such as "tying comforts" for folks burned out, "the Marthas" (as they were always known) raised money for a library building and a community chapel at the end of the 1800's. Sometime after the local newspaper noted their 100th anniversary, they evolved into the Ladies Aid of the Congregational Church which had taken over the buildings. My mother transcribed and put in the local historical society the diary of Naomi Eaton who lived in her house until about 1906 and was secretary of "the Marthas". My mother moved full time to the island over ten years ago; her father, an island native had bought this house in 1950s. Mom has a fir bag sewing & stuffing party at least once a year in the c1835 barn on the property, as Naomi Eaton did, and the past couple years my father has photographed them at work. He says he will read Sue's quote at the next party. The 4" square firbags are sold at the Ladies Aid fair and in the Parish House (the Marthas' library).

I have had firbags since the 1950s when my grandmother was in the Aid. My daughter cherishes a still-sweet smelling one that my grandfather gave her about 20 years ago. I sent Sue's quote to her in England to note "They dispel the fog from the London air" !

Unlike the directions from NV, the best bags are made with balsalm fir new growth needles still green, which means they are collected when the summer visitors have not arrived yet! Since none of the Aid ladies are nimble enough to stumble around in the swampy woods at that time, they buy the fir for their bags.

Susan Seater, who documented the quilts at the Deer Isle- Stonington Historical Society, Sunset ME 04683.


Subject: Reference to Date Pinwheels From: AmyOKorn@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Dec 

In response to Judy Grow's request for additional clarification on date pinwheels, they are neither an elaborate courting ritual nor an unusual quilt pattern, but a delicious cookie. Growing up in the Midwest, I wrongly assumed that EVERYONE had been exposed to date pinwheels at one time or another. With the Christmas season upon us, they will be appearing everywhere!

To make date pinwheels, roll out a basic sugar dough recipe into a rectangular shape and spread with date filling (dates and sugar cooked until smooth). Roll up the rectangle into a log, cut into 1/4" slices and bake. The result is date pinwheels!



Subject: RE: "shipwreck"quilts From: Sylvia Adair <piecethepast@wi.rr.com> Date: 

There is mention of a shipwreck in 1845 off the coast of Monterey, California, from which English "Calicoes of every colour" were recovered. They were salvaged and sold by Thomas O. Larkin, the U.S. Consul there (California still belonged to Mexico). The ship in question was a yankee ship, the Star of the West. There is, sadly, no mention of specific items made from the fabric, although they were sold as dress goods. This information is from the excellent book Quilts: California Bound, California Made 1840-1940, by Sandi Fox, pages 15-19. One of the buyers was Captain John A. Sutter, of Sutter's fort. I love quilt history! Sylvia Adair, librarian and quilter


Subject: Re: Reference to Date Pinwheels From: "Judy Grow" 


Does my embarrassment show, even through e-mail? I wasn't thinking of food! At least not then, which is strange because I rarely don't think about food!

I was thinking of something like a color wheel, or one of those circular thingies that tell how to enlarge from x to y measurement and what percentage that would be, only this would have quilt dates, styles, colors etc. Am I the only one who was thinking along those lines?

The cookies sound great though. My Mom used to make a date-nut bread baked in a coffee can.

Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrow@patmedia.net


Subject: Re: Reference to Date Pinwheels From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" 

You weren't the only Judy to think that way! We must REALLY be hooked on quilts if that's how our minds work instead of thinking about food <GR>! I was hoping that this was another wonderful quilt gadget that I can't live without! Maybe we can have date pinwheels at our next study group??


Subject: Re: Reference to Date Pinwheels From: Gaye Ingram 

And what, prithee, dear Judith Kaman Grow, would a DATE wheel show---say if it were one of those thingies that tell you how to enlarge from x to y measurement or even a color wheel?<g>

Inquiring mind in Louisisiana, gaye


Subject: Re: Reference to Quilt Color Dating Pinwheels From: "Karan Flanscha" 

Gaye, I am picturing a wheel like those color wheels you can buy... basic colors around the outside edge...with a window or slot that is open on a second (attached) piece... It would show fabric samples from various time periods in that color... starting in the center with the 1700's for example, and going out towards the edge in concentric rings moving through the 1800s, 1900s, to present?? It would have to be pretty big to have much detail VBG!! But it would be handy... if you were doing a documentation day, instead of hauling a pile of books, you just have the Dating Pinwheel (and you could serve cookies, too :) Happy Holidays!! Karan


Subject: Re: Reference to Quilt Color Dating Pinwheels From: Gaye Ingram 

Oh ho!!!! Now I get it. And what a good idea it is, too.

You will have to pardon me: I teach adolescents, and the term "date" had two associations----courtship rituals and the fruit of the date palm. The latter made no sense at all, and I was trying to figure how a wheel would be used with the former.

It's Christmas, I've just built a gingerbread house on a 2-foot plot of "land," decorated a 9-foot tree so that you can "see no holes"---to quote the White House tree-trimmer---and still cannot find a place obscure enough to put our children's elementary-school clay Santa ornaments that turned out green when fired, yesterday on a hookey day from school made soup and gumbo enough to feed this list , graded a set of essays on the theme of mutability in Keats' "Ode to a Grecian Urn,"-------well, you get the idea: Martha Stewart has little on me, except for maybe 100 pairs of helping hands. (Alas, my one occasional pair of helping hands replied thus to my asking her to hold the roof to the gingerbread house: "I've been working for you for 21 years. You ought to know I aint messin' with no gingerbread house. I done seen what can happen to people that do that.")

These various interpretations of "dating wheel" show why we should always get second opinions in anything that matters much: everyone's mind programmed by personal experience.

I say go invent a dating wheel-----and while you're at it, consider the adolescents' needs too.

Lost in Louisiana, Gaye 


Subject: What is the best book to read on Antique Quilts/History of Antique Quilts 

Hi there,

I am new to this sight, but am very excited about educating myself on Antique quilts and Quilt History. Could someone please offer some guidance as to what is the best way to get started. Thanks so much. Have a great day! ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Reference to Quilt Color Dating Pinwheels From: sadierose@cfu.net 

Gaye, I can see it now... a Reality TV show with hormonally charged adolescents trying to figure out how to use a Quilter's Dating Wheel... or modifying it with pictures of hunks and "average Joe's"... now, would they be in order of annual income level from the inside out?? Maybe we better just stick with the cookies :) Karan


Subject: RE: Historic Deerfield quilt exhibit news From: 

Lynne, could you tell us the exact title of the publication? I have checked the museum website but don't seem to find it. And speaking of Deerfield: in September there was a conference on quilts with several European speakers. Would you - or somebody else - know if the conference papers will be published? Thanks, Margareta


Subject: RE: Historic Deerfield quilt exhibit news From: Kittencat3@aol.com Date: 

Eep. I don't think there are plans to publish the conference papers at this time due to budget concerns. Maybe if enough people wrote in requesting them it would make a difference...?

Lisa Evans Easthampton, MA


Subject: Re: What is the best book to read on Antique Quilts/History of Antique 

Two excellent books are =Quilting=, by Averil Colby, and the Orlofskys' book on The American Quilt. Other names to look for when researching quilt history: Dorothy Osler, Janet Rae, Carter Houck, Robert Bishop, Merikay Waldvogel, and Cuesta Benberry (and several dozen others, many of whom are on this list :) ). A good cultural study is =Hearts and Hands,= while a good book about a family's history of quilts and quilt collecting is =Homage to Amanda.=

I hope you have a good time. Quilting is addictive!

Lisa Evans Easthampton, MA


Subject: Re: Reference to Date Pinwheels From: Xenia Cord 

Gaye's gibe at Judy about the purpose of a DATE wheel makes me wonder if such a thing would be possible: something like a circular slide rule, with historical dates, main color choices and design types on layered circles that could be matched to determine the age of a fabric.

So THERE, Gaye!



Subject: Re: Reference to Date Pinwheels From: "Judy Grow" 


I know someone from this list will take the idea and run with it, make gobs of money, and be heaped with acclaim forever!!!

Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrow@patmedia.net


Subject: Re: What is the best book to read on Antique Quilts/History of Antique 

Welcome to the list Eva.

The best all around quilt history books in my opinion are: Quilts in America, Patsy and Myron Orlofsky The American Quilt, Roderick Kiracofe Clues in the Calico, Barbara Brackman

There are numerous (hundreds) of wonderful books about antique quilts. Someone on this list has compiled a list of books mentioned on a similar thread, perhaps she will re-post it.

In my opinion, it is just as important to get out and see antique quilts, as it is to read about them. Search them out in antique stores, flea markets, museums, and also, quilt shows, who often have a vendor selling old quilts. There is no substitute for studying an antique quilt in person.

Happy Holidays to All, Laurette Carroll Southern California

Look to the Future With Hope


Subject: Historic Deerfield quilt exhibit catalogue From: Paul and Nancy Hahn 

Thanks, Lynne, for the heads up on the Historic Deerfield quilt exhibit catalogue. I immediately contacted them to order a number for my shop, but found out that they are not yet available "for sale." Next week they will meet to determine pricing, etc. Then they will be available for sale. Just a heads up to others who are anxiously looking forward to this publication.

Nancy Hahn


Subject: The Quilt History website From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessen@yahoo.com> 

I think we must have a lot of new people who joined through Quiltropolis and not through the website http://www.QuiltHistory.com. QuiltHistory.com is the official website for this list and there you will find extensive information as provided by list members over the past eight years.

There is an comprehensive bibliography there (with links to others), as well as an article on the Top Ten as selected by several noted authors. In addition, there is a link to Quilt History books for sale - both new and used.

The website is a great resource for quilt historians, appraisers, restorers and general quilt enthusiasts. Feel free to send me any changes, updates or constructive criticisms so we can keep it that way. Let's keep the enthusiasm going!

Kris (list mom)


Subject: Re: Historic Deerfield quilt exhibit catalogue From: "Lynne Z. Bassett" 

Gosh, imagine that! Another delay! I'm shocked! ;-)



Subject: Re: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Another Christmas gift idea.) 

Do I dare ask the question if anyone has ever seen one? Or have they all disappeared in a cloud of smoke?

Hugs, Dana

mreich@attglobal.net wrote: Here is a gift idea for the daring person in your life if you lived in 1897. I am not convinced about the safety of this new type of quilt. sue

Bluefield Daily Telegraph Bluefield, West Virginia March 7, 1897

WOMAN AND HOME The Electric Quilt

It Enables Milady to Take a Turkish Bath in the Parlor

You can take a Turkish bath in the parlor. With the electric quilt which has been invented by Snedekor, the London electrician, and member of the Royal society, you can not only save yourself the expense of a bath ticket, but you can bathe amid all the comforts of home. All you have to do is to wrap yourself up in a quilt, turn on a stopcock and wait. And you do not have to wait long, either. In 30 seconds from the time the stopcock is turned, you are sweltering in a heat of 150 degrees Fahrenheit without steam, without visible sign of heat, and, better than all, without inconvenience to anyone else to be in the room. One of the peculiar sights that may be seen in the parlor of a house where the new electric quilt is kept is that of a woman with a thick Turkish quilt around her, taking a Turkish bath, with all the windows of the room open, while persons standing within a foot of her are shivering from the chilly atmosphere outside. The owner of the quilt may also use it as an ordinary bedcovering. 

The invention is called the thermogen, but it is a common quilt, all the same. The only difference is, that, in addition to the cotton, wool or eider down of which it is made, there is also a coil of wire. The coil is bent and has many joints, so that it will move freely and in any direction like a coat of mail in olden times. It is embedded in the soft body of the quilt, and through it a current of electricity is permitted to flow. It is this which produces the heat, but the heat is moderated by the layer of material that is between the wearer and the coil wire. The heat is distributed over the person who takes the parlor Turkish bath with uniform strength and from every part of the quilt. Attachment with the household electric system will give all the current that is needed. In case the heat is excessive and threatens to scorch the bather, there is a fuse at one end of the quilt which instantly melts at the danger point, and the current is shut off automatically. 

Physicians who have tested the new thermogen believe it will be a great aid to them a connection with the operating table. In long operations where artificial means are required to sustain the patient’s temperature, instead of hot blankets and hot water now in use, the electric quilt will give a steady and even temperature. It will also be used in cases of chronic rheumatism. The inventor claims for his idea that the household uses for it are without number. The thermogen will be of greatest value to persons who have just taken a chill. Sometimes they do this at an hour when it is impossible to obtain hot water, and in any case the heating system of the quilt is said to be more beneficial than water. A man comes home tired and chilled, slips into the quilt and, perhaps, a dangerous illness is averted. It should be the means of saving many lives. After using the quilt it will be found pleasant to take a cold sponge bath. This can be taken with comfort after the body has been generally heated by the thermogen. There are many too delicate to stand immersion in cold water, still the quilt, it is claimed, will be of value to invalids. – N.Y. Journal

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Subject: Re: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Another Christmas gift ide... 

If they haven't all disappeared in a house fire (which were rather common back then, alas), I doubt they're still in working order. I sure *hope* they aren't in working order. That's scary.

Lisa Evans Easthampton, MA


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