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: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:01:08 EST From: Bbrandka@aol.com To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: 

We have had a bit of a mystery with regard to a quilt in the collection of Rochester Museum and Science Center. It is a pictoral quilt with the title of "Century of Progress" and the date of 1934. When we first saw it, we assumed that it had been in the Century of Progress contest years before. Coincidentally, Rochester had it Centennial in 1934 and the documentation reflects that this quilt was made for that Centennial and never mentions the Sears contest. We suspect, however, that it may have served both purposes but do not know. It is a wonderful quilt with a skyline of NYC and many other images.

This particular quilt was mentioned in an AQSG article (can't remember which one but it was about the Century of Progress quilts); however, it was not mentioned in the Brackman/Waldvogel book on the same subject. I had written to Barbara Brackman but got no response about this discrepancy (I believe she authored the article on AQSG).

With some luck, this quilt will be on Simply Quilts in April. This was one of the quilts we had selected to show but don't know yet what made it past the editor!

On a similar note, we included a version of "The Garden Quilt" from the Museum in our 2002 Genesee Valley Quilt Club show. You can see it at

http://collections.rmsc.org/Quilts/2002Show.html

Hopefully, the Museum will be putting up more quilts soon. They recently had their Collections staff reduced by two, so things have slowed down. The Century of Progress quilt will be one that will added earlier rather than later.

Beth Brandkamp

 

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:46:22 -0800 From: Judi Fibush <judi@fibush.net> To: 

Beth,

Thank you for that URL. Everyone - GO and click on this http://collections.rmsc.org/Quilts/2002Show.html and look as these stupendous quilts. The Garden Quilt is breathtaking.

Judi

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:38:44 EST From: KareQuilt@aol.com To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: 1st TV Quilting series 

Who produced and who starred in the first televised quilting series and when? How long was the series? I think it might have been before Georgia Bonesteel for her series did not begin until 1980. Wasn't there a series out of Bowling Green Ohio before that?

Karen Alexander

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:02:18 -0500 From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net> To: KareQuilt@aol.com, 

Wasn't it Penny Morris? I remember a book that I used to have that went along with the series. As I recall, it had a green and white star quilt on the cover.

At 01:38 PM 2/13/03, KareQuilt@aol.com wrote: >Who produced and who starred in the first televised quilting series and when? >How long was the series? I think it might have been before Georgia Bonesteel >for her series did not begin until 1980. Wasn't there a series out of Bowling >Green Ohio before that? > >Karen Alexander

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:51:34 -0500 (EST) From: Teri Klassen <teresak@bloomington.in.us> To: <QHL@cuenet.com> 

Ann, who has the reversible sateen wholecloth quilt: reversible sateen, or perhaps rayon, wholecloth quilts also were made by Mennonites and Amish, I think in the 1920s-50s. these were not commercially made of course. I have one, maybe ca. 1920s, from my Mennonite grandmother who lived in Kansas that is green on one side and pink on the other with kind of tulip-y designs in the middle, and my mother has one that was a high school graduation present from Grandma in 1951 that is turquoise on one side and yellow on the other. Teri in Indiana, where we got snow-rolls yesterday.

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:32:21 -0500 From: "Cinda Cawley" <lrcawley@dmv.com> To: "QHL" <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: 

Those New York quilts with the "weeping trees" in the borders: I've been looking for pictures and my impression is that the trees ususally face in, toward the center of the quilt. Am I right? Cinda on the Eastern Shore

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: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:51:02 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessen@yahoo.com> To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: Question for quilt historians Message-ID: <20030214055102.90881.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This question was submitted through the quilt history page. I have to admit, I am baffled... birds made of bias tape? Has anyone ever heard of them?

Kris, cringing slightly

> I am very interested in finding patterns for these darling birds > that are fashioned from bias tape. I haven't been able to locate > any patterns or information about them. I appreciate any help > anyone has. Thanks. Ruth Forsting > UserEmail: thegreatruffino@webtv.net

 

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:28:29 -0500 From: "Kristina Strom" <KristinaStrom@celestialperspectives.com> To: <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: Re: Quilting 

I seem to remember our local PBS station in southern Ohio airing a series that featured Nancy Crow, which would make sense re the Bowling Green location. This was in summer of 1979, followed in the fall by Georgia Bonesteel in the same time slot. Perhaps the PBS people would be the ones to contact, and I would be happy to help in anyway I can. Kristina

"Who produced and who starred in the first televised quilting series and when? How long was the series? I think it might have been before Georgia Bonesteel for her series did not begin until 1980. Wasn't there a series out of Bowling Green Ohio before that?

Karen Alexander"

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:25:45 -0500 From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net> 

I meant Penny McMorris, sorry. And I did a little research and found that she did the Great American Quilt series on PBS in 1991-1992.

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 03:51:30 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Schwender 

I work at Nebraska PBS, give me some time to look into this. Personally I remember Mary Ellen Hopkins airing on some stations a looooong time ago. The Great American Quilt is relatively new although IMHO is has always been the best. For all I know the earliest may have been Eleanor Burns. For this question I will assume we are not including Sewing With Nancy since it is not exclusively a quilt show. Judy Schwender "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net> wrote:I meant Penny McMorris, sorry. And I did a little research and found that she did the Great American Quilt series on PBS in 1991-1992.

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:27:01 -0500 From: Barb Garrett <bgarrett@fast.net> To: QHL 

Yes, Bias Birds do exist. I have a tea towel done on cream feedsack with a bias tape bird. Just recently I found the patterns in a book I have -- one of those thin ones you could get through the newspapers from 1950-1970s. I'm on my way out the door for a guild meeting -- and just quickly checked email -- but will look for the book when I return.

Barb in southeastern PA

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:41:01 EST From: Midnitelaptop@aol.com To: KareQuilt@aol.com, 

it was a quilting series on PBS with penny mcmorris as the host....i watched them all and taped some...every couple of weeks she would have rod kirakofe(sp) on the show, displaying vintage quilts. then came georgia bonesteel and then eleanor burns quilt in a day and so on. jeanL

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:48:49 EST From: Senopera@aol.com To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: Re: QHL: 1st TV Quilting series Message-ID: 

In a message dated 02/14/03 8:42:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, Midnitelaptop@aol.com writes:

...every couple of weeks she would have rod kirakofe(sp) on the show, displaying vintage quilts.

I think this may have been the second season of Penny's shows. Didn't the first one have just lessons in how to make a quilt?

Sue

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 06:53:47 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Schwender <sister3603@yahoo.com> To: thelist <qhl@cuenet.com> Subject: 1st quilting show 

I haven't heard back yet from my PBS contacts.

But...

I started at Montana PBS in April 1991. We did not air the McMorris show until about 2 or so years later, but that's not to say that other stations didn't air it earlier. It did have the Kiracofe segment, as well as a how-to segment with Diana McClun and Laura Nownes who wrote Quilts! Quilts! Quilts!.

PBS stations are not a network. Other than what is designated "common carriage" (typically prime-time programming like NOVA and Masterpiece Theatre)each individual station can purchase and air what the local viewers want. Many how-to shows are provided free to stations with notification of carriage. That makes them very attractive to the stations. Such programs may also be scheduled whenever the programming director and rights allow, which will vary from station to station. So, someone may have seen GAQ in the spring of one year but her quilt buddy in the next state may not see it until fall of the next year, or not at all.

I am trying to find out when the program offer for the first quilting show was made. It may have been a local series out of Bowling Green that wasn't offered nationally, either by the independent programming services or PBS national.

Probably more than anyone wanted to know, but all of this has bearing on the 2nd quilt revival of the 20th century and how it unfolded.

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:38:12 -0600 From: "Marcia Kaylakie" <> 

HI All, I am currently researching vintage and antique rattlesnake quilts. I do have 4 books, including John Rice Irwin's, and own one myself. I would like to know if anyone in the group has seen or owns one and where, if possible, the quilt originated. Also, if anyone knows where I can reach Mr. Irwin, it would be greatly appreciated. Please reply in private and I will summarize to the list if there is interest. Thanks in advance for your help, I can always count on the group!! Marcia

Marcia Kaylakie, AQS Certified Appraiser Austin, Texas 512/502-0383 www.texasquiltappraiser.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Schwender <sister3603@yahoo.com> To: thelist <qhl@cuenet.com> Subject: 1st quilting show 

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Below is the information I have received so far from my PBS contacts:

FYI...Bowling Green, Ohio is located in north west Ohio.

We [WBGU] produced two series: QUILTING and THE GREAT AMERICAN QUILT hosted by Penny McMorris.

Released: September 1, 1981

QUILTING: 13/30s - With Penny McMorris, art curator and former quilting instructor, the series features work by many quilters; some history of quilting; quilting as art; and demonstrations and technqiues.

Released: February 1982

QUILTING II: 13/30s - A continuance of the first 13 programs - carrying the same overall theme of exploration of quilting as an art form. This second series will continue to look at the history of quilt making and the lives of quilt makers with a continued concern for quilting techniques and the application of these techniques in particular styles of quilts. Afro-American quilts, Hawaiian quilts plus "Quilt National '81" will be program topics. Penny McMorris will continue as Host/Producer.

Released: January 1, 1992

THE GREAT AMERICAN QUILT: 13/30s - Host Penny McMorris guides viewers through a tour of "The Great American Quilt." Each half-hour program features new looks for old quilt designs, segments on the history of quilts, and interviews with experts about such subjects as appraising quilts and interpreting their meaning.

My program manager did say that Nancy Crow did appear in some of the programs

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:03:57 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Cunningham <sanchezstudios@sbcglobal.net> To: QHL@cuenet.com Subject: Re: QHL-Digest Digest 

I know Penny McMorris did her series out of Bowling Green in the early 1980's, but I do not think it was befoe 1980. I was on a segment, I think, around 1983. You could contact her at QuiltPro, her software company, to get the actual dates.

Joe Cuningham Joe@joethequilter.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:27:20 -0000 From: "Sally Ward" <sallytatters@ntlworld.com> 

I don't know if it is of interest, but I have a booklet published by the BBC in the UK which says it was printed to accompany 'Discovering Patchwork', a programme first broadcast on BBC2 in January 1978. This was a series of programmes prepared 'in consultation with the BBC Further Education Advisory Council' . Many people fondly remember this programme a being at the very start of the revival of the craft over her.

So far as I know this is the only series ever shown on UK television covering the subject of Patchwork and Quilting. It is a continual source of complaint that our 'minority' interest receives no programming at all on any channels, and we are very envious of what you have on offer. But were we leading the field back then? I've been surprised that the responses to the question seem to suggest a much later start date to programming in the US.

Sally W in Yorkshire

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:38:26 EST From: Midnitelaptop@aol.com To: QHL@cuenet.com 

i didn't get a tape recorder until 1985...and i taped some of the shows .. so it had to be 85 or later that the show aired on pbs in amherst Mass... jeanL

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:23:05 -0800 From: "Julie Silber" <quiltcomplex@starband.net> 

Hi Everyone, Julie Silber here... I have come across a quilt on eBay with an interesting description. The headline reads: "1930's Nazi german Quilt Rare." Check it out at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2158548482&category=4078 It's item # 2158548482.

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Below is the message I sent to the seller -- I'll keep the list posted as to any response I receive.

Hi, I'm wondering why you call the quilt design a "Nazi Swastika?" In quilt history, the design predates the Nazi era (and I would guess that your quilt is probably earlier than the 1930s.) While the design is sometimes referred to as the "Swastika" or Swastika Patch" in quilt literature, it also has other traditional names, including "Catch Me If You Can," 10,000 Perfections," and "Wind Power of the Osages."

Perhaps you have some specific knowledge that it has some Nazi reference or connection. ???? You might want to check out the following web site -- www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti- 1997/swastika.html -- for more information on the ancient history of the design. Best, Julie Silber (oldquilts)

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:45:00 -0500 From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net> 

Apparently, someone believed his description . . . look at the bid! Egads!!!!

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:36:12 EST From: Kittencat3@aol.com To: qhl@cuenet.com  

Not to mention that it doesn't look particular 1930s or particularly German. I wonder if there's some family story behind the Nazi label?

Lisa Evans Easthampton, MA

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:32:00 -0500 From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" <judysue@ptd.net> 

I think a lot of people just assume it must be Nazi-related when they see that version of the cross! I used to work at a psychiatric hospital which had a small building erected around 1900 with the Nazi cross in the cement work . . . before Hitler adopted it for his Third Reich. Some of our patients got very upset when they saw it, and couldn't understand why this fine Quaker hospital would have such symbols on its grounds! The Board even considered having the symbols sand-blasted off the building so as not to agitate any patients . . . but thank goodness, they decided against it.

I always find it hard to date red and white quilts since they were popular for so many years. This quilt could even be late 19th century but more probably early 20th - I think the 30's dating is on the late end. But of course if the seller dated it earlier, it wouldn't make sense to call it a Nazi quilt <GR>!

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:23:56 -0500 From: Judy White <jawhite@infi.net> To: Quilt 

Before The Great American Quilt series, Penny McMorris hosted a quilt program in 1981 - I taped it and just checked the date. I had just begun quilting and didn't have a clue as to what her guests were doing, but I knew I had to do it too. This was pre-rotary cutters, etc., and people were using scissors and acrylic rules with no numeric increments. Penny had most of the well-known quilt makers at the time - Nancy Crow, Jan Myers, etc., on the show. The local PBS station offered a book to go along with the series. It was a blue and white book which covered each program - I think there were 13. I'm sorry to say, I let that book get away from me because I didn't realize that it was to become the guide to such a definitive program.

Judy White - Ct

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:08:10 -0500 From: "Candace Perry" 

It's still on ebay -- just put nazi quilt in the search. What is truly scary is the individual who is buying it. If you check his feedback (and I'm sure it's a he) his recent purchases are German WWII militaria. Ick. Isn't it disturbing how someone can take a wonderful object, probably loving crafted, and turn it into a piece of truly evil propaganda? The poor quilter is probably turning over in her grave. Candace Perry

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:39:30 -0800 From: Gaye Ingram <gingram@tcainternet.com> To: QHL.QHL@cuenet.com Subject: Re: QHL: "nazi quilt" Message-ID: 

> > It's still on ebay -- just put nazi quilt in the search. > What is truly scary is the individual who is buying it. If you check his > feedback (and I'm sure it's a he) his recent purchases are German WWII > militaria.

I suspect the knowledge that "Nazi" might add to the value of the quilt be part of the seller's designation. There is in America a vigorous and large market for German WWII--and more specifically, Nazi---materials. Twenty years ago, most buyers of these materials were young boys. Now the range is unlimited. I'm told by reliable historians of the era that museums seeking to create modest, representative holdings in such things are often discouraged from their goals by the market prices. Evidently the buyers range from neo-Nazis to Klansmen and related fringe groups to collectors who do not share the associations of people over 45 or 50. A lot of this stuff is also coming on the market as veterans of WW II pass away. But L. Farakhan (sp?) does not have the corner on the racist market. Nor do males: there are a number of women in this buyer pool. Alas.

Gaye

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:30:58 -0800 From: "Rachel Greco" 

Because I have done extensive research on the topic of swastika quilts, I e-mailed the seller of the e-bay quilt the following question:

"Do you have specific knowledge relating this to Nazi Germany? As a quilt historian who documents old quilts I would be extremely interested in knowing why you believe that this relates to Nazi Germany in any fashion. If you have documentation that shows that this American quilt was made as a show of support for the Nazi regime, I would be highly interested as it would directly benefit my research into this type of quilt.

Swastika quilts of this type were popular BEFORE World War II--generally from about the late 1800s through the 1920s. They lost favor AFTER Hitler announced that the swastika symbol would forever more be associated with the Third Reich. By February 1940 the Navajo-Hopi (remember the code talkers?) had held a sacred ceremony banning the use of the swastika (an ancient symbol for this people) in any form as their show of support for the Allies. This is just one example of how the symbol fell out of favor with the advent of World War II.

To my knowledge, there is no documentation to show that this type of quilt supported Nazi Germany. If you have information that proves otherwise, I would greatly appreciate receiving it for my research. I am not trying to be confrontational with this e-mail. I am sincerely interested in knowing what the link is so that I can address it in my research."

I am hoping that by being nonconfrontational perhaps the seller will answer and let me know what specific information he may have to support his claim that this quilt has anything to do with Nazi Germany. You know, anything is possible (though highly unlikely)--and it could be that someone with a bent in this direction actually made it from old patterns. (Yikes!)

My uncle was a POW in a German Concentration Camp. His terrible experience in that camp changed him forever and it is how I came to research this type of quilt. The first time I saw one of these quilts I was horrified to think that anyone would glorify something so ugly and disgusting; however, the more I learned about these quilts, the more I realized it had NOTHING to do with Hitler and that they were actually made as a type of "good luck" symbol. If this guy has actual PROOF that it does relate to Nazi Germany, I'm willing to listen to this information and keep an open mind. Frankly, it would change everything I know about these quilts and as such would be hard to dismiss no matter how fervently I would wish (and sincerely hope) it weren't true.

I will keep you posted as to whether the seller answers my inquiry. Thanks for your patience with such a long post.

Rachel Greco Grandma's Attic Sewing Emporium, Inc. Dallas, Oregon

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:41:23 EST From: Hazelmacc@aol.com To: QHL@cuenet.com 

In Quilter's Newsletter Magazine Cumulative Index, they have listed "Bird (series using bias tape), A, 12", 23-3l I was certain that QNM had run this series but did not have time to search the magazines, but was pleased that I found it in the index.

Hazel Carter in snowy Virginia.

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:00:16 -0800 From: "Rachel Greco" <grandmasattic@compuserve.com> To: "QuiltHeritageList" <QHL@cuenet.com> Subject: 

As promised, I am sharing the short response I received from the seller of the "Nazi german quilt" on e-bay, Peter Johnson:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Johnson" To: <grandmasattic@compuserve.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2158548482

"I have no evidence of family quilt making. This quilt was acquired by my grandfather."

Since this seller has already mentioned that his grandfather is deceased, I am left to conclude that my research and body of evidence to date showing that these quilts have nothing to do with Hitler and Germany still stands. If anyone has evidence to the contrary, please let me know.

Rachel Greco Grandma's Attic Sewing Emporium, Inc. Dallas, Oregon

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:34:19 -0500 From: Joan Kiplinger <jkip@ncweb.com> To: Qhl 

A favorite topic for this list -- tomorrow HGTV will feature Homes of the Underground Railroad at 5 ET. Possibly there might be reference to the HIPV quilt legend.

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:46:35 -0600 From: "Susan Wildemuth" 

Concerning the quilt TV series.

There is some information in the following book:

Makowski, Colleen Lahan. Quilting 1915-1983:An Annotated Bibliography. New Jersey: Scarecrow Press, Inc, 1985.

ISBN: 0-8108-1813-2 LCCN: 85-2497

Chapter IV. Non-Print Media pages 106-112.

Unfortunately the dates are not listed for the series:

Quilting I - Thirteen-week series on PBS. Produced by station WBGU-TV, Bowling Green, Ohio 43403. Bowling Green State University. Features Peggy McMorris, Michael James, Nancy Crow, and others. Viewer guides to accompany each series. No date listed.

Quilting II - Thirteen half-hour video-tape programs. WBGU-TV Bowling Green, Ohio. Covers Quilt National '81 and demonstrations with Michael James, Judi Warren, Darwin Bearly, Nancy Crowe, Florence Pulford, Edward Larson, Jinny Beyer, Elizabeth Akana, Cuesta Benberry and Yvonne Porcella. No date listed (other than 1981 Quilt National mentioned earlier)

Georgia Bonesteels Lap Quilting Series is also listed in this book and various other films/slides

Hope this helps-- Sue in Illinois Six inches of snow and still falling

 

 

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