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Subject: RE: symbolism and the Klan From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> 

> covered with old rags (a bit like scarecrows) or branches, meant to > represent Winter (compare with the Eastern European tradition of

In a town where I lived as a child, there was a town bonfire on Epiphany night. We would take our Christmas trees to the park, where they were piled on an earthen pier, which jutted out into the lake. Of course all those dried-out trees would go up in nothing flat! We would sing Christmas carols as they burned. It was always exciting when a tree would roll off the bonfire into the lake...floating away into the darkness still burning, before sinking out of sight. I'm told that the trees were good for the habitat of the lake, providing the fish places to hide. Because the bonfire was surrounded by water on three sides, there wasn't much risk of it getting away and doing any damage, so everyone (even the firemen!) got to enjoy a good, big fire. :)

>From what I've read, northern cultures (like the Vikings) tended to have more to do with symbolic fires because of the long winters- fire, being both light and heat, would be tremendously important, and more 'special' than it would in, say, Tuscany. :) But we have to be careful not to confuse the medium with the message- fire was used to mean a lot of different things, from a glorious entry into Valhalla, to a threat that would leave a semi-permanent reminder in the lawns of the victims.


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> Date: 

> I was just wondering something non quilt related about this. How do > Americans feel about a Aussie and Englishman playing the lead roles of > Southerners. . I know the brits were upset when Renee Zwellegger played > Bridget Jones.. Just wondering. Suzy, I think that what upsets people is when they're a part of a group whose actors have trouble getting all the work they want, and an 'outsider' plays a character of that group. Americans are less worried about American actors being put out of work by a British actor playing an American, than Englishmen worry about American actors taking a role away from Englishmen. :) It's also true here, about minority actors- the Hispanic, or Asian-American or Native American communities are distressed when one of their own isn't chosen to play a Hispanic, or Asian or Native American character.


Subject: RE: "Cold Mountain" From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> Date: 

> Do you mean "morning dress" which would have been the sort of costume a > woman would wear prior to receiving visitors

I thought a morning dress was what a Southern belle wore during the day; with long sleeves to protect her skin from the sun? >


Subject: Mint Mus. 1850 Scallop edge quilt & exhibit From: "ChrisA" 

Someone on the list recently asked about when scallop edges were seen on quilts and I came across one in a new exhibit catalogue "American Quilt Classics 1880-1980" from the Mint Museum of Craft and Design that dates to c. 1850. It is a very very unusual album quilt. In a quick glance one might think it's early th century. Each appliqué motif is different and unlike those seen in other R&G, teal, orange, and pink 1800s album quilts. Plus there are rather large red sqs. placed on point free floating across the top between the myriad of appliqués in many sizes and shapes. Obviously they are corner stones, but there is no evidence of sashing or blocks in this picture. There is no usual border either; stemmed flowers grow out of the sides like a single spring flower from the ground. The scalloped edges are bound with a dark, perhaps red, binding. The scallops are fairly small, rather then large and fit the overall size well.

This quilt is worth the entire catalogue- but it's one of many truly unique and fabulous quilts this women collected over the years, Fleur Bresler. She recently donated them, her books and research materials to the Mint Museum and Merikay Waldvogel wrote the text. The catalogue/book is 79 pages with 36 full size quilts and many detail shots. Nearly half the quilts date pre-CW and the rest pre circa 1930s, one is 1980, hence the catalogue title.

Fleur collected 1 or 2 of many different styles such as blue-resist, chintz, stenciled, Baltimore album, 1 crib size and 1 regular :), cut-out chintz, whitework, 6 Amish, various foundation pieced types, a 1930s reproduction of the 19th century Phoebe Warner Quilt, and other appliquéd and pieced ones. Interestingly, they tend to be child size or an irregular, uncommon size. For example, the blue-resist quilt, c. 1840, is 99 1/4" X 60 1/2". The heavily blue on white resist fabric is surrounded by a wide indigo border on three sides. The binding is blue-resist too. These are wow quilts because they are really unusual- folk art comes to mind often.

Merikay describes the evolution of quilt history via the quilt styles and patterns. She goes into a lot of detail on each type and when they began, plus provenance and social history associated with the quilts and other aspects influencing them. It's very informative and interesting and a fun to read catalogue. The notes section is a good research aid too. The color close-up photos are terrific and are in the text section. Although the exhibit is now over, Merikay has copies available. The book has a colorful embossed cover, it's $.00, $3.00 S&H from Merikay, quiltaliveaol.com. There is a picture of it (item # 637) and some of the quilt exhibit too at www.mintmuseum.org.

Kimberly Wulfert, PhD www.antiquequiltdating.com Email: quiltdatingjetlink.net


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Sally Ward" <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: 

> Americans are less worried about American actors being put out of work by a > British actor playing an American, than Englishmen worry about American > actors taking a role away from Englishmen. :)

Do you think so? I think we worry less about nationality than we do about whether the actor is up to it. For example Cate Blanchett in 'Elizabeth' won critical and popular acclaim, but Mel Gibson in 'Braveheart' became the butt of a lot of mickey-taking. The authenticity evoked by the actor should surely have as much attention paid to it as, for example, historical costuming and set dressing (just to keep it nearly quilt history related <G>)

So far as stage productions are concerned the Actors' Union called Equity does have rules related to foreign nationals' work visas to protect their interests, but I'm not sure how that applies to films. Don't English actors have to have visas to work in America?

I'm off to see Cold Mountain next week. Apart from the quilts, clothing, and set dressing, should I take this as an accurate portrayal of life at that time? I've just read an article about how inaccurate all those 'cowboy and indian' films I grew up with were...can I trust this?

Sally W in the UK


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1san.rr.com> Date: 

Dear Sally, You wrote: Mel Gibson in 'Braveheart' became the butt of a lot of mickey-taking

Please explain what you mean here - I don't know the term and what "mickey-taking" means - I am assuming you meant he was the but of some jokes - this is such a colorful phrase!! Can you explain the origin?

I became an ardent Mel Gibson fan after I saw him in Hamlet. I thought he was excellent in this role and before that had considered him just eye candy.

Good acting is good acting - no matter the origin of the actor.

But I love those Aussies!

Julia Zgliniec


Subject: RE: Pokeweed- NQR From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> Date: 

> (1) Isolectin, pokeweed > Proteins isolated from the roots of the pokeweed, Phytolacca > americana, that agglutinate some erythrocytes, stimulate mitosis > and antibody synthesis in lymphocytes, and induce activation of > plasma cells.

agglutinate some erythrocytes- makes some red blood cells clump together and stimulates cell division and creation of antibodies in the white blood cells that fight disease.

> (2) mitogen (mi·to·gen) (mi¢to-j[schwa]n) a substance that > induces blast transformation; DNA, RNA, and protein synthesis; > and proliferation of lymphocytes, e.g., concanavalin A, > phytohemagglutinin, pokeweed mitogen, or lipopolysaccharide.

Makes lymphocytes (a kind of white blood cells that fight disease) reproduce, and turns them on from an inactive to an active, antibody-producing cell.

> pokeweed mitogen, a lectin isolated from pokeweed (Phytolacca > americana); it is a mitogen that stimulates both B and T > lymphocytes. Abbreviated PWM.

B and T are two types of lympocytes; one fights bacteria, the other fights viruses and cancers.

So it sounds like Granny was right- it DOES stimulate the immune system. :)


Subject: Re: qhl digest: January 09, 04 From: Trishherraol.com Date: Sat, 10 Jan 

Do any of you Easterners ever consider filming a lecture such as this, assuming Trish would agree, so that those of us who can run into the city so easily can have access to it? I understand all the problems from copyright onward implicit in such a venture---but I bet there is a market for such a video/dvd. I certainly have no problems with being taped. Although since I never give exactily the same talk twice, hopefully I would be taped on a "better day." One never knows what may come out of my mouth--especially me.

Jonathan Holstein had long ago suggested doing this. As I remember I was taped when I did a talk for the American Folk Art Museum last year on Pa. German textiles.

Candace is right, that decision is up to the Metropolitan Museum.

Hope to see some familiar faces in New York, Trish Trish Herr 717.569.2268 2363 Henbird Lane Lancaster, PA 17601


Subject: Mickey Taking From: "Sally Ward" <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 

'Taking the mickey' or 'taking the mick', means teasing or making fun of. I've just looked up the origin of the phrase which surprised me a bit and I've posted it privately to Julia. If anyone else wants to know, best ask me off list <G>

> Good acting is good acting - no matter the origin of the actor.

Hear hear.

Sally W


Subject: Language- OT From: "Quiltstuff" <quiltstuffoptusnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 

Sorry for starting a movie actor discussion that led onto language but I guess that is the joy of the internet. I know I used to always get into quite confusing discussions with visiting US Army Officers before we worked out that the phrase " I am pissed" means different things in our countries. I meant I was drunk and they meant they were cranky. VBG

Although we don't normally use the phrase ' mickey -taking-' , we sure do use the phrase 'taking the mick' or 'taking the mickey'

It does mean making fun of someone.. and probably originates from the term ' taking the piss' which also means the same. ( not that I know why it does) Anyway I checked it out on a cool web page which revealed >.

Partridge's "Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English" dates this expression to c. 1950, and gives its origin as rhyming slang ("Mickey Bliss"). Mickey Bliss, thought to be BBC radio personality, has never been conclusively identified.

A competing theory is that "taking the mick" was derived from the verb, "micturate" (to urinate).>>

The site has explanations for a whole host of strange expressions. Fun to read. I always wondered why we said ' to the bitter end' http://www.yaelf.com/questions.shtml

Suzy > > Please explain what you mean here - I don't know the term and what > "mickey-taking" means - I am assuming you meant he was the but of some > jokes - this is such a colorful phrase!! Can you explain the origin? > >


Subject: Language:Recommended Cure for the Long, Cold Winter From: Gail Ingram 

All right,

Someone else brought up the subject of language, not I. But their choice gives me an opportunity to recommend a book I was given for Christmas and which has already become my boon companion---Garrison Keillor's "Good Poems."

Oh my heavens and stars, if you do not have this book, trot right out to your nearest bookstore, waddle past all those diet books and Dr. Laura's tome on how to get the bedroom rafters wobbling. You won't need the Dr. Phils and Dr. Lauras after you lay hands on Keillor's little anthology.

I know some of you might think you are not necessarily poetically inclined. But you are. You just don't know it. We all are naturally inclined to love rhythmic, concrete, good-sounding language. And most of us hum so-so songs and tap our feet in cars while waiting for a train to pass because our high school Englsh teachers made us read what one of my students once called "old lady poems." And so we just have nothing better in our heads than the so-so songs or the sound of the train wheels on the track.

This book will give everyone something better.

In his introduction, Keillor starts right out by allaying the fears of poetry that plague many readers. He writes, "This is not "Introduction to Poetry (MWF 9am Chemistry Bldg 105, 3 cr) and I am not the Maud Hill Hallowell Professor of American Lit, and your name isn't Daphne Foxcroft."


He tells readers that these are poems that have been read over the radio on a 5-minute program he did for Public Radio---in the early morning when families are eating and mamas are frying bacon and instructing children, and there is no time for falling into a poetic swoon. Read under such circumstances, K. observes, severely test the goodness of a poem. Such 'radio" poems have to catch you right from the start. And since he only had 5 minutes, start to finish, introduction and all, they couldn't be long. Which, as some one once said, is a good thing.

He's upfront about his own prejudices---calls Ginsburg a "gasbag" and says reading Ginsburg strikes him about like hiking across N.D.: he just couldn't get past Fargo. Calls Whitman in general "the Typhoid Mary of American poetry" because of all the bad, long-winded, gasping verse he encouraged; notes that T.S. Eliot needed to get out of the house more. Loves Emily Dickinson, as well he should, and says Emily would have agreed with him about his preference for Maxine Kumin, Mary Oliver, Elizabeth Bishop, Wm Stafford, and Chas. Bukoski, a poet that doesn't get read much but should, and a lot of other modern writers as well as Shakespeare and Donne and Dickinson and Teasdale and related real classiccs.

Keillor's choice is idiosyncratic and that makes reading this book fun, like talking with a real person, not thumbing through the choices of some pallid poetry editor in a large publishing house who, like Eliot, needs to get out more. In his introduction, Keillor says, "What makes Kumin and Sexton matter, and makes all good poems matter, is that they offer a truer account than what we're used to getting. They surprise us with clear pictures of the familiar. the soft arc of an afternoon in a few lines." And he observes of our language, "A cunning low tongue, English, with its rich vocabulary of slander and concupiscence and sport, its fine Latin overlay and French bric-a-brac, and when someone speaks poetry in it, it stirs our little monolingual hearts."

Certainly the poems in this book stirred my little monolingual heart. I will give you the poem to which my own copy of the book first fell open, a poem by Linda Pastan that stirred my teacher's heart because I see a lot of heartbreak upclose and open and am always glad to know it can end.


Because of the menace your father opened like a black umbrella and held high over your childhood blocking he light, your life now seems to you exceptional in its simplicities. You speak of this, throwing the window open on a plain spring day, dazzling after such a winter.

And then what about Tess Gallagher's

I Stop Writing the Poem

to fold the clothes. No matter who lives or who dies, I'm stil a woman. I'll always have plenty to do. I bring the arms of his shirt together. Nothing can sop our tenderness. I'll get back to the oem. I'll get back to being a woman. But for now there's a shirt, a giant shirt in my hands, and somewhere a small girl standing next to my mother watching to see how it's done

And this by a poet I didn't know, Hal Sirowitz

Lending Out Books

You're always giving, my therapist said. You have to learn how to take. Whenever you meet a woman, the first thng you do is lend her your books. You think she'll have to see you again in order to return them. But what happens is, she doesn't have the time to read them, & she's afraid if she sees you again you'll expect her to talk about them, & will want to lend her even more. So she cancels the date. You end up losing a lot of books. You should borrow hers.

There's a wonderful poem on Vermeer by Howard Nemerov that quilters will understand especially. And Mary Oliver's sweet "Wild Geese" ---------("You do not have to be good/You do not have to walk on your knees/ for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting/ You only have to let the soft animal of your body / love what it loves............Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,/the world offfers itself to your imagination,/ calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting---/ over and over announcing your place/in the family of things)--------- and sundry things by Emily D ("Success is counted sweetest/ By those that n'er succeed" , e.g.) and a poem called "The Middle Years" by Walter McDonald that will just make you glory in gladness that you are past 45, those of you who are past 45.

Well, it's just a book full of good poems, like its name says, and you will be blessed if you get a copy. I have rooms and shelves filled with books, many of them filled with poetry, but I've discovered and rediscovered so many good poems in this book that I did not exchange the second copy I rec'd ( from a former student: the book is dedicated to English teachers, you see) but placed it in my car. For when I'm stopped at traffic lights or by trains or when I'm stuck in traffic (a rarity here in Ruston, Louisiana, but a commonplace for many on this list.). And I'm thinking of getting yet another two copies---one for my bathroom and one for the guest bathroom.

Okay, kick me off the list for swerving off course.

But truth to say, I don't think I did swerve.


Gail Ingram

DISCLAIMER:. While I listen to Prairie Home Companion religiously, I have no financial interest in its inventor's company or in Penguin Books, and not a single close friend of mine has a poem included in this book.



Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> Date: 

> Do you think so? I think we worry less about nationality than > we do about whether the actor is up to it.

Sally, I think what I wrote came out catterwhampus. :) What I meant was, IF a person is going to be worried about the nationality of the actor playing a particular role, it will be about a role where the actor is of a majority group portraying a minority, because of the fairness issues to minority actors. So I'd guess that since there are fewer films made in Britain than in America, that people in Britain would be more concerned about American actors coming in and taking roles away from their countrymen. Whereas in America, there is more opportunity for a good actor to find a role, that a British actor coming in and taking a role playing an American doesn't seem so unfair. Also, there's the perception that British actors are especially well-trained and talented, so that people might see it as a choice between the finest actor available vs. an American who's not as talented. <g> >> I've just read an article about how inaccurate all those > 'cowboy and > indian' films I grew up with were...can I trust this?

Oh, my. <G> Well, they weren't very accurate. There's an infamous movie in which the Cheyenne are all portrayed by Navajo, because the producer wanted to film cheaply, and it was easier to get Navajo who could be filmed talking away in 'Indian' than Cheyenne. So in the movie, you'll see the Navajo talking away to each other, pretending to be Cheyenne. The funny part is what they're saying....for example, they're speculating about the lack of sexual prowess of the white heros, in one scene. <G> Just remember that history is written by the winners. The Indians had plenty of good reasons for killing the whites. OTOH, a lot of the battles are anachronisms, in that cowboys arrived in a location AFTER the native populations had been 'resettled' elsewhere.


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> Date: 

> > Good acting is good acting - no matter the origin of the actor. > > But I love those Aussies!

Julia, Mel Gibson was born in the USA! :) In this global economy, it's hard to find someone to cheer for, who doesn't have ties to more than one nation!:)


Subject: Re: Lynne's request for names on Signature quilts From: "J. G. Row" 

> If you have any signature quilts please make it a New Years Resolution to document the names on the quilt, etc. so that they can be put on file. Nancy Hornbeck and I will be glad to take the info. and move on with it. (I am preaching to myself right now.) > Lynn Lancaster Gorges Lynne,

I am really interested in this project. Please tell more about it. Where will all this information be stored? Will it be an interactive database? Wouldn't it be great to be able to find all the signature quilts that so-and-so and thus-and-such signed? How will everyone get access to the information? What a wonderful idea. I've got a number of quilts that I can give to you, including those I am documenting at a local museum. Photo included?

Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrowpatmedia.net


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Sally Ward" <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: 

> >> I've just read an article about how inaccurate all those > > 'cowboy and > > indian' films I grew up with were...can I trust this?

My turn to come out catterwhumpus (? I love this expression but haven't a clue what it means!). What I meant to ask was whether I could trust the depiction in Cold Mountain of Civil War times. When I started to learn about American quilting I am afraid I swallowed all the myths whole and have had to re-educate myself. Well no, actually, educate myself - because my only knowledge of your history was via Hollywood.

Sally W


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Nancy Gibbs" <izannah1msn.com> Date: Sun, 

Where I grew up (Iowa), cattywampus (that's the way we spelled it)  usually meant catty-corner, although sometimes it was used to mean  mixed-up, as in an expression came out "cattywampus." But the usually  meaning was catty (or kitty) corner. (I love the various meanings of  colloquial expressions!). Think how many quilt patterns have interesting  names!! Puss in the Corner, Wild Geese, Hands All Around, etc., etc. Nancy G ------_NextPart_000_0060_01C3D83A.3970C360--


Subject: Prince's/Princess Feather pattern From: KareQuiltaol.com Date: Sun, 11 

Some background: In December 02 we had one of our discussions the Prince's Father pattern, suggesting that a Hungarian revolutionary hero (Lajos Kossuth 1802-1894 - the "Father of Hungarian Democracy," ) who came to American 1851/52 as an official guest of the government to seek American support for Hungarian independence and became a very popular speaker here, wore a military hat with a feather in it. 

Judy Ringo then responded with: << He is remembered in many parts of the country, and the largest county in Iowa is named after him. We saw a feather quilt at a seminar in Omaha which was associated with him, and not the Prince of Wales.>> I then responded with the statement that Brackman shared with us during her induction into The Quilters Hall of Fame July 01 in one of her workshops that a four block Prince's Feather quilt does exist that has the name "Kossuth" stitched or inked onto the quilt. I never was able to clarify if Judy and Brackman were referring to the same quilt. Now to my point. Just today in the Washington Post was an article about Jefferson Davis as Secretary of War for the Union before the Civil War. In 1855 Congress authorized him to organize and outfit the 2nd U.S. Cavalry. Their mission: to protect the settlers on the western edge of the frontier, in what today is central Texas. The writer goes on to name and discuss the "excellent" choices Davis made in men. However, he then states, "outfitting the unit left a little to be desired. Arriving in January 1856 to occupy the area, their appearance did not go unnoticed. Not to be caught in standard issue garb, their uniforms included gray trousers, short blue tunics with yellow trim and, to literally top it off, black slouch hats with the brim pulled up on the right to show off a colorful ostrich plume." I wonderful if Kossuth in anyway influenced Davis's choice of hats (or the person that Davis may have assigned to handle the job of selecting the uniform) or whether the hat of this division of the U.S. Cavalry in anyway influenced the quilt pattern. Does anyone know a documentable date for the earliest Prince's Feather quilt?


Karen B. Alexander Independent Quilt Historian Press Secretary - The Quilters Hall of Fame


Subject: Northern VA Study Group From: KareQuiltaol.com Date: Sun, 11 Jan 04 

The Antique Quilt & Fabric Dating Club of Fairfax, VA (or Northern VA Quilt Study Group - our name seems to morf from time to time) is meeting Sunday, Jan 18 from 1-4pm at the George Mason Regional Library inside the Beltway on Rt 236. Our theme for this meeting is SIGNATURE quilts but you are not limited to sharing only Signature quilts. All quilts are welcome but we do state a theme for each meeting. Email if you would like directions.

Karen B. Alexander Independent Quilt Historian Press Secretary - The Quilters Hall of Fame


Subject: TQHF Memorial Walkway deadline From: KareQuiltaol.com Date: Sun, 11 

Just a quick reminder that if you get your form and $50 check in to TQHF by Jan 31 for a brick in the Marie Webster Memorial Walkway that your brick will be made and installed in the walkway in time for next summer's Grand Opening July 04. You can find the form on our website at www.quiltershalloffame.org. I have slowly been buying a brick for each of my grandmothers, mother, MIL, aunts, daughters, sister, DIL, granddaughter etc. I think a memorial brick installed at TQHF is an especially wonderful way to remember those in my family who have been quilters, but I am not limiting my bricks to those in my family who have quilted. <g>

Karen B. Alexander Independent Quilt Historian Press Secretary - The Quilters Hall of Fame


Subject: Studio Quilt Study Group Meeting Jan th From: "J. G. Row" 

Dear friends,

January seems to be the month for study group meetings. The regularly scheduled meeting of the Studio Study Group will be held at my home in Ringoes, NJ, on Tuesday, January th. As always, those coming from a distance can find a place to stay with me, or with Nancy Kerns. We need to know beforehand however.

Asking around for a suggested theme for this meeting, Barb Garrett thought of "stars". I think that is a wonderful theme, especially for this time of year. I can't get out of the car after dark without gazing up at the sky, which seems especially twinkly in the cold winter. So, stars it is, pieced and appliquéd; Christmas, Bethlehem , Compass , Lemoyne, Union, Enigma, Hexagonal, Star and Stripe, Washington, Exploding , Royal, Nine-Patch , Feathered, Circle, Lonely, Sun Moon and ... -- you get the picture. Any kind of star quilt. So, bring your most twinkly star quilt, but bring other interesting things as well.

How apropos that the New England Quilt Museum is showing star quilts this season. We can't all travel to the Boston area, but we can make our own little star quilt show for one day.

Our meeting starts at 10 AM, we break for lunch for an hour, and then continue until 3PM or until folks drift off towards home. We usually flap a lot of quilts out onto the table .

Our meetings are very informal, and many of our members don't have collections of antique quilts at all. We who do are always happy and excited to share. We don't wear white gloves (usually) but request clean hands.

Anyone needing driving directions, get in touch privately.

I would like to have all your RSVP's at least by Sunday the 18th so I can plan how many chairs I have to clean off. We store them outside.

I can't wait to hear from all of you , and see you again.

If we have to postpone or cancel I'll be in touch, either by phoone or e-mail. Pray for no snow!

Judy in Ringoes, NJ judygrowpatmedia.net


Subject: Midwest Fabric Study Group From: Xenia Cord <xenialegacyquilts.net> 

The Midwest Fabric Study Group will wind up our study of chintz with a visit January 17th to the Speed Museum, Louisville. There we will sigh over the Smithsonian traveling exhibit of Patricia Smith's calico and chintz quilts. We will meet in the museum lobby between 10:30 and 11, have a docent-led tour at 11, then revisit the quilts on our own. Fee is a minuscule $3 each for the docent. Lunch is also on our schedule!

Anyone in the vicinity is welcome to join us - at last count we had about 30 people coming from Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

For directions, go to www.speedmuseum.org and click on "Planning A Visit." Even if you can't join us on the 17th, you won't want to miss this opportunity to see such wonderful quilts.



Subject: 19th century quilt poetry and prose. (A winter quilting project.) From: 

Here is a good winter project for the dead of winter with temps in the zero range. What is most interesting is the description of a Baby Blocks pattern. It is referred to as a diamond patch or box pattern. I wonder when the switch in names took place. Rarely, does a 19th century article come with how-to instructions. sue reich

The Chronicle Telegram Elyria, Ohio December 6, 1919

For Girls to Make. Making Your Own Bed Quilt By Carolyn Sherwin Bailey

Snow flying, frost pinching, and coal scarce! Who cares? The very best thing for your health is to sleep with your windows open, and the heat turned off. You will enjoy it if you have plenty of covers. Why not make your won bedquilt? The patched Quilt The diamond and the box patterns are most attractive to use and they will be the closest imitation of the old fashioned quilt, so scarce now and so valuable. The diamond patch is made first by cutting a paper pattern of a geometric diamond figure the size that you wish. Then cut your cloth by this pattern in patches of contrasting color. Plain blue and white or checked gingham in blue and white, and pink and white will be pretty. Sew the diamonds together on the wrong side with small over and over stitches. The box pattern is made by combining diamond patches in threes so as to make the geometric box figure. Then sew the boxes together as you did the diamonds. The quilt, plain lining first, then a layer of cotton batting, and last the patched top, is fastened to quilting frames. Then invite your girl friends to an old fashioned quilting bee, with biscuits, pie and doughnuts for supper! A Chintz Comfortable If you can use a sewing machine, you can make a soft, dainty quilt for your own room to match the curtains. Stitch chintz in a gay pattern so as to make a large, bag shaped covering the right size for your bed. Then stitch it on the machine up and down its length, leaving a space of about six inches between the rows. Gather all the soft, old material that you can find for stuffing it, cotton, old stockings, old linen, scraps of silk, or ravellings of yarn. An old sweater, ravelled is splendid. Fill the spaces in the quilt between the rows of stitching with this material, and finish it by binding the edges with plain cambric or ribbon to contrast with the colors of the chintz.


Subject: A suggestion for the Midwest Fabric Study Group From: 

When you visit Patricia Smith's chintz quilts, take drooling cloths. This is an "Oh, my God!" experience. All of the qhlers who attended Deerfield will understand just what that means. sue reich


Subject: Re: Prince's/Princess Feather pattern From: "ChrisA" <chrisajetlink.net> 

Hi Karen,

I don't know if this is helpful, but I own an early R&G four patch Prince's feather quilt. It has three borders. In the border are stemmed flowers with a too large single Prince's feather as a leaf. The four large blocks are divided by a sashing of two red and one green strip with small green and white 9 patches at the intersections in the middle area, three total. The sashing does not run along the top or bottom. Each block's Prince's feathers total 8 that meet in the middle to an 8 pointed LeMoyne Star, of red and green. A red feather meets a red star point, and a green to green. The quilting pattern is scallops in the border area and small hanging diamonds everywhere else.

I don't know the exact date, as the dealer didn't know, but a credible person told me it was early, definitely preCW. I don't have the measurements either, but on my queen bed the sashing goes to the sides and the borders hang over perfectly on the three sides.It rests at the base of the pillows.

In the Mint Museum catalogue of Fleur's quilts, there is a crib size (36.5X35.5) Indigo "Princess Feather" dated circa 1850. It's one large 5 feather block with corner motifs of another sort.

Kimberly Wulfert, PhD www.antiquequiltdating.com Email: quiltdatingjetlink.net


Subject: Who is Judy Ringo? From: "J. G. Row" <JudyGrowpatmedia.net> Date: 

> with a feather in it. Judy Ringo then responded with: << He is remembered in many > parts of the country, and the largest county in Iowa is named after him.

Karen, I just love it!! From now on I will have my own catchy theme music, lifted from the TV western series!

Judy in Ringoes, NJ aka Judy Ringo



Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Jocelyn" <jocelynmdelphiforums.com> Date: 

Nancy, I grew up in the Ozarks of Missouri, and there, it was kitty-cornered or catty-cornered when you mean something's location, but catterwampus when you were describing its condition- that the lines that should have been straight north-south were diagonal. In fabric parliance, 'cut on the bias'. <G> So you could say something like ,'The house that's kitty-cornered from mine is all catterwampus because they don't keep it up right.' <G> I suspect that there's lots of spellings, because they were words mainly used in speech, not in writing. :)



Subject: Re: Prince's/Princess Feather pattern From: "Laurette Carroll" 

While I remember the discussion of the origins of the pattern name, I can't remember if the flower by the name of Prince's Feather was mentioned. If not here's some interesting information from a Google search of "Prince's Feather". The flower looks very much like the quilt pattern, IMO.

"We find the name Prince's Feather used in America as early as 1709 when John Lawson described "Prince's feather very large and beautiful" in his A New Voyage to Carolina. Presumably, this plant is the same as the flower Jefferson planted in 1767." Quoted from the following site... http://www.twinleaf.org/articles/flowers.html

see also http://shop.store.yahoo.com/monticellostore/600248.html http://www.nearctica.com/flowers/a/Ahybrid.htm http://www.nearctica.com/flowers/a/Aretro.htm http://www.gardenofedenfloralshop.com/PrincesFeather.htm

Laurette Carroll In beautiful Southern California


Subject: Re: "Cold Mountain" From: "Nancy Gibbs" <izannah1msn.com> Date: Sun, <<'The house that's kitty-cornered from mine is all catterwampus because  they don't keep it up right.' <G> I suspect that there's lots of  spellings, because they were words mainly used in speech, not in writing. :) >> Yes, I'm sure that's exactly it. We just used cattywampus for both  meanings, but more generally it meant the catty-corner thing. Nancy


Subject: Quilt block name history From: "Vernon Farms" <vernonfarmssisna.com> 


Can anyone help my find a book that tells the history of quilt block names. I know the log cabin block history but what about all the other blocks. Is there a book, web site, or some other place where I can find information?

Su Vernon


Subject: Re: qhl digest: January 11, 04 From: Litwinowaol.com Date: Mon, 12 

Good Morning, Just a quick remeinder that the Iowa/Illinois Quilt Studyg Group is meeting Feb 7, at the Grout Church in Kalona, IA. Morning show and share, afternoon documentation of signature quilts. Contact me, Sue WIldemuth: ksandbcwgeneseo.net or or Marilyn Woodin: Woodinkctc.net for more information. Catherine


Subject: Re: Quilt block name history From: "Celia Eddy" 

Sue, you'll probably be inundated with messages on this subject. The main book which I use is:

Barbara Brackman: Encyclopaedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns, which gives dates of first publication of over 4000 blocks. Electric Quilt have all this information on CD-ROM, called Block base. Unfortunately, even this comprehensive listing doesn't tell us much about the origins of the names.

Some names are fairly clearly inspired by historical events and people: Henry Clay, Dolly Madison and Lincoln, for example, are historical characters so you can find out about them but whether that will provide enlightenment about the blocks named for them is another question.

Other names relate to events, e.g. Burgoyne Surrounded, which commemorates a famous American victory during the War of Independence. It's great fun and very interesting to follow up on these blocks but the names of many remain lost in the mists of time: who was Aunt Suky, for instance?

I'm looking forward to reading some US replies to this question!

Best wishes Celia


Subject: Re: Quilt block name history From: "Sally Ward" 

Celia is modestly refraining from mentioning her own book on the subject (The Quilter's Block Bible), which I noticed got a mention in the December issue of QNM as a good Christmas buy. For a book on US blocks written by a Brit I thought that was pretty good going <G>

I too have Barbara Brackmann's book, but would point out that it is a reference to pattern and names, rather than to the stories, which Celia has diligently collected.


Sally W


Subject: Re: Studio Quilt Study Group Meeting Jan th From: "Arlene Marin" 

Hi Judy, I am planning to attend but will probably be about an hour late. Looking forward to seeing you. Arlene Marin 


Subject: RE: Quilt block name history From: "Judy" <anne_jworldnet.att.net> Date: 

This is the most common question I get from visitors to my website.

>Can anyone help my find a book that tells the history of quilt block names. >I know the log cabin block history but what about all the other blocks. Is >there a book, web site, or some other place where I can find information?

I have a little at on quilt patterns at http://www.womenfolk.com/historyofquilts/patterns.htm but mostly it tells how little we know. The resources section points to webpages I could find but it's limited too. If anyone has found a good website with quilt pattern history please let me know.

I haven't found a book dedicated to this topic. What I've written is from searching through many books and a little help from my QHL friends. :)

Judy Anne


Subject: White cross From: "BOBBIE A AUG" <qwltpromsn.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 

Speaking of KKK quilts with white crosses instead of red, there is a beau tiful quilt with white crosses in Florence Peto's book, American Quilts a nd Coverlets, 1949. The border is somewhat elaborate and the quilt does  not look political - looks religious.

Bobbie A. Aug Author, lecturer, teacher, AQS Certified Quilt Appraiser qwltpromsn.com www.BobbieAug.com P.O. Box 9654 Colorado Springs, CO 80932-0654


Subject: kkk robes From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftserols.com> Date: Mon, 

I had to do some checking to be sure, but did you all know that these robes were commercially made by the same manufacturers who did other ceremonial and fraternal costuming? It was BIG business at the end of the 19th c/early thc. They would have been made by the same manufacturers who made robes for the African American fraternal organizations as well - how is that for ironic? The establishment of fraternal organizations (Knights of Pythius, in particular) were actively promoted by the manufacturers who made the Union Army uniforms and other paraphanalia. There was quite a surplus of uniforms and insignia after the end of the Civil War, so traveling sales men were recrutied to travle around the towns of the mid-west and establish these lodges and sell them the stuff. The boys who had been too young to participate "the glory" of the war, were very susceptible to the sales pitch as young men. So if you want to find Union Army uniforms, look in the storage rooms of some of the older lodges in the mid-west! Newbie Richardson The Costume and Textile Specialists Alexandria and Richmond, VA


Subject: costumes in Cold Mountain From: "Newbie Richardson" 

Although I have not yet seen the movie, my partner Colleen Callahan, Curator Emeritus of the Valentine Museum in Richmond, said that although it was a wonderful movie, it took her quite a while to get over her adverse reaction to the women's costumes. The "wealthy" woman was dressed 5 years ahead of period. She was wearing a hat called a "Eugenie" - named for the Empress of France and dating to 1868. The character's dress was equally miss dated. (There was a distinct change in woman's clothing silhouette in 1865/66.) You'd think that all the attention paid to the detail of uniforms, etc would have rubbed off on the other costumes! Once again, "women's sphere" gets hind tit! Newbie Richardson


Subject: Re: costumes in Cold Mountain From: aol.com Date: Mon, 12 

*sigh* Sounds like nothing much has changed since the 1940s. Edward Maeder's done a lot of work on Hollywood costumes and curated a wonderful exhibit called "Hollywood and History" back in the late 80s (it was in Los Angeles and Boston that I know of; the costumes were stunning, especially one worn by Norma Shearer as Maria Antoinette).

One of the major things Edward found out was that male costumes and hairstyles tend to be much, much closer to the original than the female costumes, hairstyles, and (especially) makeup. No matter how carefully the costume designer may research the period, the results tend to conform in one way or another to the prevailing aesthetic.

If you can find the exhibit catalogue, it's well worth reading (mine disintegrated years ago from overuse). Some of the funniest examples include frosted lipstick on 18th century doxies (Tom Jones), upholstery fabric Elizabethan (Dorothy Vernon of Haddon Hall), 19th century nuns in full 1940s glamour makeup and plucked eyebrows (Green Dolphin Street)lifted and separated Renaissance breasts (Diane), space beehives (01: A Space Odyssey), and wool jersey Biblical Philistine high priestess wear (The Prodigal).

Sounds like Cold Mountain is, alas, following this glorious tradition. I wonder how anachronistic the makeup will look in ten years? :)

Karen Evans Easthampton, MA


Subject: princess feather From: "Laura Fisher" <laurafishernetlink1.net> Date: 

rushing to set up for the American Anrtiques Show at the Metropolitan  Pavilion, which I hope everyone who will be in NYC this week will  attend.

Re Princess Feather -- I believe it is a derivation of Prince's Feather,  the three feather insignia of the Prince of Wales. Laura Fisher 


Subject: 19th century poetry and prose (Fabric care instructions) From: 

As we all hunker down with our winter projects, here are some tips for fabric preparation from the nineteenth-century. Notice that the second tip was repeated in three different newspapers over a 52 year period. sue reich

Adams Sentinel Gettysburg, Pennsylvania June 12, 1837

Sewing on Glazed Calico. Passing a cake of soap a few times over a piece of glazed calico, or any other stiffened material, will cause the needle to penetrate without difficulty.


The Ohio Repository Canton, Ohio August 5, 1825

To wash Calico without fading. Put a table spoonful of common salt into the suds, and the colors will remain as bright as before washing.


Adams Sentinel Gettysburg, Pennsylvania April 15, 1839

For the Ladies. -- A new way to make calicoes wash clean. -- Infuse three gills of salt in four quarts of boiling water, and put the calico in, while hot, and leave it till cold. And in this way, the colors are rendered permanent, and will not fade by subsequent washing. So says a lady who has frequently made the experiment herself. -------------------------------------------------- 

The Gettysburg Compiler Gettysburg, Pennsylvania November 16, 1877

To Wash Calico Without Fading. - Infuse three gills of salt in four quarts of water, put the calico in while hot and leave it till cold, and in this way the colors are rendered permanent, and will not fade by subsequent washing.


Subject: Request from Luxembourg From: macdowelmsu.edu Date: Mon, 12 Jan 

I am forwarding this message to the QHL list from a person in Luxembourg seeking assistance. - Marsha MacDowell

Subject: quilter from luxembourg Date: Mon, 12 Jan 04 09:04:32 +0100

hello, I am a dutchwoman living in Luxembourg, Europe and I have a daughter who will be graduate in May in Kentucky - Bowling Green, Western Kentucky University. I would like to make a special quilt for that day but I don't have that much ideas, it is difficult to find someones. I am a member of the International Luxembourg Quild Guilt, but most of this people are "older people" and don't have experience with your country. I was there too when she graduated from high school, so I know what's going on. The colours from Western are white, black and the small parts who are hanging down, sorry I don't konw the right name, is white and red, it can also be application. And if there is something to pas, no problem, just let me know it. S.O.S. Help me, if not forward this mail to other quilters and thanks in advance. To my person I am 52 years young and me be we can keep in touch to change ideas, OK. (if my english is not, I am sorry)

Toos Lux from Luxembourg


Subject: textiles & language From: Judy Schwender <sister3603yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 04 04:37:35 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 1

This is from the Common Reader website, www.commonreader.com

Curious Word of the Day This word of the day is excerpted from A Second Browser's Dictionary by John Ciardi. Copyright © 1983 by John Ciardi

sleazy n. Britain 17th-18th centuries. Now obsolete A fine cotton or linen cloth used for linings. Also sleazy holland, in which holland is a generic term for this sort of cloth; sleazy functioning as an adjective. (Cf. shoddy, Vol. I, for a similar noun-adjective evolution based on inferior cloth.) ” adj. 1. Cheap. Worthless. Fine-seeming but inferior. 2. Tawdry. Garish. Put forth as if of true value but obviously false. a sleazy argument. 3. Sleek. Slinky. Imitating elegance. dance hall girls in sleazy imitation satin. [All forms are a corruption of Silesia, earlier part of Germany, now a coal-mining district of western Poland. The 17th-18th century cloth was manufactured there, probably as fine cloth for linings, but deteriorating in quality as it was imitated (keeping the corrupted name sleazy) in other places. Earlier also sleasie, sleasy, sleesy, slesey, slazey.] HISTORIC. Bailey's Dictionary, 1764, gives: œSleasy, after Silesia, adding: œbut the term is commonly used for a thin slight holland. (Holland, cloth of Holland, first so named because made in Holland, then a generic name for light cotton or linen cloth made in other places and deteriorating as it was imitated.) Bailey also gives, as a separate listing: œSleazy, slight or ill-wrought, as some Sorts of linen cloths are. The Oxford English Dictionary follows Bailey in listing sleasy and sleazy separately, but goes so far as to suggest that the two forms are of different origin. This separation must ultimately have been the decision of the don who worked up the OED's notes for one section of the words beginning with s. He gave no reason for seeing two separate words here. He may have been thinking of sleeze, which the English Dialect Dictionary gives as a widespread dialect noun (no adjectival form) meaning œloosely or badly woven cloth. One might also look to dialect slay, sleigh, slaze, a weaver's rod. But all cloth, good or bad, required the use of a reed worked at right angles to the threads of the loom (the warp and the woof). I cannot find a dialect adjectival form slazey, slayzey, and I do not see how an adjective meaning œof the weaver's reed could mean œillwoven. There is also the fact that all relevant variant forms given by the EDD are of 19th-century dating. As I read the evidence over the ghostly don's shoulder, I must conclude that all dialect variants are from the 17th-18th centuries, and are based on the original corruption of Silesia to sleasie, sleasy, sleazy, which like holland was originally fine linen or cotton, but deteriorated as it was imitated in various œsleazy mills.


Subject: Centennial Quilt & Repro Fabric From: "Judy Kelius (judysue)" 

Have you all seen the repro of the a Centennial print issued by Baum? It is an excellent copy.

It is the same print that is used in this Centennial quilt from Nebraska now on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2588228219.

This is a great quilt, relisted at a lower reserve - it was on eBay in December and got up to more than $2,300 and still did not meet reserve.

Click on the thumbnails below. 

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Subject: Re: 19th century poetry and prose (Fabric care instructions) From: Sylvia 

I found the first advice especially interesting. This same advice was repeated often in sewing machine manuals in the 19th century to facillitate feeding through thick seams. I haven't tried it myself--might be fun! Sylvia Adair, quilter and librarian Germantown, Wisconsin

> > >Adams Sentinel >Gettysburg, Pennsylvania >June 12, 1837 > >Sewing on Glazed Calico. >Passing a cake of soap a few times over a piece of glazed calico, or any >other stiffened material, will cause the needle to penetrate without >difficulty. >------------------------------------------------- > > > >


Subject: 19th century quilt poetry and prose (Fabric prep tip for the day) From: 

One wonders if there was anything left of the fabric after going through this process. sue reich

Nevada State Journal Reno, Nevada October 10, 1872

How to Whiten Linen or Calico. When linen or calico is discolored by washing, by age, or lying out of use, the best method of restoring the whiteness is by bleaching it in the open air, and exposure on the grass to the dews and winds. There may occur cases, however, where this may be difficult to accomplish, and where a quicker process may be desirable. Here the art of chemistry may assist, and the following directions have been given by an eminent practical chemist: The linen must first be laid for twelve hours in a lye formed of one pound of soda to a gallon of boiling-hot soft water; it must then be boiled for half an hour in the same liquid. A mixture must now be made of chloride of lime with eight times its quantity of water, which must be well shaken in a stone jar for three days, then allowed to settle, and being drawn off clear, the linen must be steeped in it six-and-thirty hours, and then washed in the ordinary way. This will remove all discoloration.


Subject: Re: 19th century poetry and prose (Fabric care instructions) From: Vivien 

This is a technique my mother used when zippers did not slide smoothly. I used it with my children and now with my grandchildren. It works very well.

Vivien, Acton MA where it is bright and cold with intermittent snow flurries.

>>Sewing on Glazed Calico. >>Passing a cake of soap a few times over a piece of glazed calico, or any >>other stiffened material, will cause the needle to penetrate without >>difficulty. >>------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>


Subject: Rick-rack History From: "Suzanne Cawley" <ccawleyalleganyinternet.net> 

Hi All!

This is not a quilting question....but I am sure someone on the list can give me an answer. When did rick-rack (originally called "waved, corrugated, snake, or zigzag braid") first come into use? I recently bought a box lot of vintage clothes which included a documented 1847 man's wedding dress shirt as well as a child's homespun pinafore with rick-rack trim. I am sure the pinafore is not 1847, but would like to establish an approximate date or window. I do know that rick-rack was used as early as the 1880's but would like to know the earliest date. Incidently, one dress in "Cold Mountain" had rick-rack....but I wouldn't use that as date documentation!

Suzanne Cawley In wild, wonderful Keyser, WV


Subject: Re: Rick-rack History From: "ChrisA" <chrisajetlink.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 

HI Suzanne,

I looked in two needlework dictionaries: one did not give an age first seen, but showed it could be spelled with or without the "k"; while the other was written in 1882 and it did not list rick-rack in either spelling.

Kimberly Wulfert, PhD www.antiquequiltdating.com Email: quiltdatingjetlink.net


Subject: Rick-rack History From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 

Suzanne -- I deleted your rickrack post by accident so forgive if I repeat to some extent what you said. In one of my fashion books I remembering reading that a form of rickrack called serpentine braid was popular in the mid- 19thC. Later, when it was commercially made on a larger scale basis it was called wavy braid; there was a flat tape also for crocheting wavy edges to simulate serpentine design. Rickrack as we know it in a thinner corded braid appeared around end of 1890s in various sizes. Sorry I can't be more specific. I have too many fashion and costume books to even begin searching through to find this information.

> >


Subject: Antique Road Show Quilt From: Donald Beld <donbeldpacbell.net> Date: 

So, did everyone see the quilt last night from Chicago? I think the appraisal price was right on--$4,000 to 6,000, BUT, it was NOT a Whig Rose--it was a Rose of Sharon.

Snooping around in my inquiries about the difference between Whig Rose, Democratic Rose, Republican Rose and Rose of Sharon has turned up the following information--th Century patterns do not distinguish between the four patterns--they all basically are the same.

However, early patterns--1840-60's, have the Whig Rose, Republican Rose, and Democratic Rose all basically the same; but the Rose of Sharon (Songs of Solomon 2:1) is a reference to the RED Rose of Sharon--the plain on the seacoast in Israel.

So the quilt on Antique Roadshow--which was Red, except for the yellow stamen center, was a Rose of Sharon. Although that quilt was dated 1852, the Rose of Sharon was, strangely enough, a campaign quilt for James Buchanan, the President just before A. Lincoln, who was from Lancaster County Penns. In the English War of the Roses, the Lancasters were the Red Roses and the Yorks the White. Interesting symbolisms.

Don Beld


Subject: Re: Rick-rack History From: Margareta.Faustcec.eu.int Date: Wed, 14 Jan 

The Oxford Dictionnary gives 'ricrac' as the older spelling, and dates both to 'late 19th century'. What about Webster's ? Margareta

-----Original Message----- From: ChrisA [mailto:chrisajetlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 04 7:58 PM To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] Re: Rick-rack History

HI Suzanne,

I looked in two needlework dictionaries: one did not give an age first seen, but showed it could be spelled with or without the "k"; while the other was written in 1882 and it did not list rick-rack in either spelling.

Kimberly Wulfert, PhD www.antiquequiltdating.com Email: quiltdatingjetlink.net


Subject: rose of sharon on antiques roadshow From: "Newbie Richardson" 

Don and list, As soon as I saw that Ken Farmer was doing the appraisal, I figured the figure would be accurate- and it was. He runs a very well respected auction house in central Virginia, and has been in th business for many years. Newbie Richardson


Subject: Re: rose of sharon on antiques roadshow From: Ivory22986aol.com Date: 

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For us new to quitling :) here is what a Rose of Sharon looks like _http://www.mccallsquilting.com/bonus/layout_700/_ (http://www.mccallsquilting.com/bonus/layout_700/)

~*~ Our Little Treasure ~*~




Subject: old topic From: "Charlotte Bull" <charloumo-net.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 

I'm not trying to revive this, but I just wanted to mention that the other day I was reading a contemporary novel about fox hunting in Virginia and there was a cat named Golliwog among the many animals who TALKED! (dogs, cats, horses, foxes etc!) Rita Mae Brown does have a unique approach to her fiction for adults! At one point Golliwog caught a mouse and carried it proudly and the dogs made a comment about her thinking she was the only cat who ever caught a mouse! There was no mention or comparison to the original character in the children's books. I never would have caught this reference If I had not read your letters a few weeks ago. Oh yes, the cat was a calico cat. Is that a fabric reference close enough to quilt topics?


Subject: Re: Lynne's request for names on Signature quilts From: "Nancy Hornback" 

> If you have any signature quilts please make it a New Years Resolution to > document the names on the quilt, etc. so that they can be put on file.

> I am really interested in this project. Please tell more about it. > > Judy in Ringoes, NJ

Judy, and all others interested in registering signature quilts:

Yes, by all means, please do get the information about your signature quilts ready to go into a database. This project will indeed be getting off the ground. Our initial idea was to begin gathering signature quilt registrations hoping that eventually we would find a permanent home for a database. The good news is that we may have already found such a repository. Details will soon be worked out and we will tell you more about it.

In the meantime Lynn Gorges (Palmporeaol.com) and I (nancy96earthlink.net) will be glad to hold for safekeeping any documentation sent to us until it can be turned over to the permanent database.

A signature quilt database will be a wonderful resource for us all. We look forward to hearing from you!

--Nancy Hornback


Subject: Re: Lynne's request for names on Signature quilts From: "Nancy Gibbs" 

<<In the meantime Lynn Gorges (Palmporeaol.com) and I  (nancy96earthlink.net) will be glad to hold for safekeeping any  documentation sent to us until it can be turned over to the permanent database.

A signature quilt database will be a wonderful resource for us all. We  look forward to hearing from you!>>

I guess I missed reading something--what is this project to involve? I  have a mid-19th c. quilt with an embroidered signature and date which  comes out of my late husband's family. It's not in terribly good  condition, but was apparently VERY impressive when he first saw it as a  child (before his aunt got hold of it and washed it numerous times in a  wringer washer!). Large applique, red and green mostly, bound in red  with one end cut off from mice damage. Is this what you're looking  for??? And are you looking just for the names or the quilts themselves?

Nancy G. in PA ------_


Subject: World War II quilts From: <mreichattglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 04 

Is there anyone out there in QHL land researching WWII era quilts? If so, could you email me privately. Thanks, sue reich


Subject: try one more time From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jan 04 

Sorry about that email on the digest. Have been having trouble with my email. Hopefully this copy of it will make it. My husband tried to exp lain to me in computer language what happened, but he might have as well been speaking in Portugese or some other language I don't know!!! Will and I are in Charleston for a weekend escape. He is working a Civil War Show, and I am working on a million projects in the hotel. Then we hang out at night. If only thos e teenagers back home would stop calling!!!! My mother in law was Avis Styron Gorges. No, she wouldn't have been known  outside of Carteret Co. NC. She got the Gorges name from a soldier from O hio who was stationed in Davis, NC at the radar base during WW2. They were ma rried for 50+ years.

I appreicated Pepper letting you know about my mother-in-law's passing. S he gave a beautiful tribute. Yes, she was a rare gem. She and I were very  different and very alike. We had a common bond when it came to quilting, sewing in general, crocheting, gardening, and our love for the ocean. She was a true High Tidder of the coast of NC with the Old English style accent. She was 92 so she shared many stories of a time gone by. (She used to use flour on a strin g that you snapped to mark quilting lines, etc.) When the saddness is a little  less fresh we will have a grand time watching the movies of her talking abou t her childhood on the Outer Banks, and seeing her demonstrate net making. My husband, 1 of our 2 sons (age 16), and my daughter (12) were with her and  2 other family members when she passed away. We wrapped her in a quilt as she died. When we came home that evening I took down the double wedding ring quilt she made for us as a wedding quilt (It hangs over our bed.),and my hus band and I slept under it for days. My children also slept under afghans she crocheted, and quilts she made as a way of being near her that evening. H er handiwork made that evening so much easier to bear. Her casket was covered w ith a snowball pattern quilt made by her mother at the turn of the century. Her favorite quilt. Her house was usually a wreck, like mine, but you know----not one person mentioned that during the funeral service as people eulogized her. They t alked about her pantry filled with jams, her quilts, her creativity, her ability t o quote poems she learned as a child into her 80's, and her warm sweet smile.  I was blessed that she was a part of my life, and glad she produced her son, m y husband, who appreciates a woman who has to have boxes and boxes of fabric.

On to a couple of other things.... I was asked many years ago to do conservation/restoration work on a silk KKK  robe. At first I refused. Then my husband explained to me that history is history. He said that we have to know our history in order to not repeat our mistakes. He said that items like that deserve to be seen and explained.  He also gave me the history of the Klan in a very similar version to the one Ga ye told you. He said that it was really started out to protect families, but got way out of control and went in a very bad direction. He said that we need to know that good things can become evil when handled by the wrong people and f or the wrong reasons. So I did do the work and mounted it to a board for framing. I have no ide a what was ever done with it. I can't remember everything about it, but I do have a file and pictures of i t at my studio. It was a light cream colored silk robe trimmed in red silk bands down the front. It was an A-line robe. It closed in the front with hoo ks and eyes, I think. There was an embroidered patch in red silk threads on one  side of the chest. It was maybe a rose. It had fallen into the conditi on of most silk items of the early part of the 1900's in that it was shattered and  tattered silk. I do believe it was a silk weft and a cotton warp. It w as made for a department store in the Deep South---Ala. or Miss. The name of the store was on the selvedge of the fabric. Obviously this store sold them to the leaders/or those who wanted a fancy robe. There was no hood with it. The NC Museum of History has a hood that has horns with it. I remember that because the y were conserving it at the same time, and it subsequently went to be in an exhibit in Atlanta on Civil Rights, I believe. I discussed the moral issues with them as well.

VINTAGE WASH STUFF I have compiled the chemical ingredients of most of the cleaners on the market that people might consider using for quilts and antique/collectible textiles. I think I will post that info. and a summary regarding the chem icals to go with it. It will be missing the testing that I had planned to do, but I w ould like to at least get this info. out. I will post next week to let you kno w where to find it. If you have any signature quilts please make it a New Years Resolution to document the names on the quilt, etc. so that they can be put on file. Na ncy Hornbeck and I will be glad to take the info. and move on with it. (I am preaching to myself right now.) Sorry for this long post. I am playing catch up with my life. I am als o in the throws of planning a trip to Australia for  days in late June. My s on will be leaving in Feb. for a semester at the Univ. of Wollongong (1 hr. sou th of Sydney), so we plan to go tour with him before he returns to the US. W ould love to hear from some of you from Australia. (Please write to me at palamporeaol.com) Happy New Year to a great group of folks. We are so fortunate to have thi s outlet. Thanks Kris for all your hard work!!!!

Off and running, Lynn Lancaster Gorges Historic Textiles Sudio New Bern, NC textilepreservation.com


Subject: Re: World War II quilts From: "ChrisA" <chrisajetlink.net> Date: Wed, 14 

You may know this Sue, but I'll post it for the list:

There is a terrific new book out on exactly this topic. It's called "Women of Grace and Charm- A Quilting Tribute to the Women who served in WWII" by Barb Adams and Alma Allen. It has pictures of the women and their individual story, plus history of times during WWII, and then a quilt or block is designed and made in honor of each, which is pictured in color with instructions.

Kimberly Wulfert, PhD www.antiquequiltdating.com Email: quiltdatingjetlink.net


Subject: Re: World War II quilts From: Feedsackfanaticcs.com Date: Wed, 14 Jan 

You can find: "Women of Grace and Charm- A Quilting Tribute to the Women who served in WWII" by Barb Adams and Alma Allen at: www.connectingthreads.com.

Paula in GA


Subject: Re: World War II quilts From: "Barb D" <barbdclarityconnect.com> Date: 

thank you Paula, very much. My Mom served in WWII and taught me to sew and quilt. This is the perfec t book. Barb  -------Original Message-------  From: Quilt History List Date: Wednesday, January 14, 04 17:28:05 To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] Re: World War II quilts  You can find: "Women of Grace and Charm- A Quilting Tribute to the Women  who  served in WWII" by Barb Adams and Alma Allen at: www.connectingthreads.co m.  Paula in GA  


Subject: Re: World War II quilts From: "Barb D" <barbdclarityconnect.com> Date: 

ok, I'm really a dummy I guess Looked on all 3 pages of their books and can't find it. help please!  -------Original Message-------  From: Quilt History List Date: Wednesday, 


Subject: Re: World War II quilts From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com> 

I found it. It's at http://snipurl.com/3tsr 



Subject: Re: World War II quilts From: "Barb D" <barbdclarityconnect.com> Date: 

thanks Paula after following your instructions (lolol) I got it!  -------Original Message-------  From: Quilt History List Date: Wednesday, January 14, 04 18:10:21 To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] Re: World War II quilts  Barb,  Go into connectingthreads.com, and click on books on the top menu. Scroll  down and put in the title, and it should come right up. I've bought many items  through Connecting Threads, and they have wonderful service.  Let me know if you need more help.  Paula  



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