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Subject: Re: question on how to remove wax from a quilt From:

Sherrie, since the quilt is not an antique one I would use the paper bag method suggested by another list member. Once all the wax has been removed applique a nice big heart over the area and make sure dd knows she has a special place in your heart and to be glad you didn't kill her!! LOL I have had the worst thing happen to a quilt.. fingernail polish! The urge was really great especially since this WAS an antique quilt from the '30's. And, yes, I was able to get the polish off and there is a very faint stain there but it fits in well with all the other stains from that era. Hugs, Babette

Larry Wohlge <larrywgreenhills.net> wrote:I have a quilt with candle wax on it. My dd used it as a table cloth.(no I did not kill her, but the thought crossed my mind.) Is there any way to safely clean this? It is not an antique, it is just 14 years old. It is the baby quilt I made her.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, Sherrie


Subject: Re: question on how to remove wax from a quilt From: Sally

> I have a quilt with candle wax on it. My dd used it as a table cloth.(no I > did not kill her, but the thought crossed my mind.) It is > the baby quilt I made her.

A furniture restorer once talked to me about old pieces having 'honourable scars' and this surely counts as one? I'd be thrilled if my DD wanted to use/show off her baby quilt in that way, even if candles were involved <G>

Sally W


Subject: Re: Carla Hassel From: "Jeff & Sheri Lesh"

All this talk of Carla Hassel (she was from the Des Moines area), has brought many fond memories to me. I met her not long after I joined the Embroider's Guild in the Cedar Falls/Waterloo area of Iowa, in the 1980's. Which is where I met all my quilter friends I have today. I think her's was the first "workshop" I had ever been too. I met many more quilters there and happen to sit close to those that I am friends with today also.

We did a applique basket quilt with bias handles that were intertwined. My first applique and certainly not my best, but I still have the piece, a nice example of how far one can come in skill. :)

Then some time later, she was invited again, maybe through Iowa Quilter Guild, I don't remember, but I kept her in my home. And at that time, she was leaving the quilting arena and heading back to school, to become a medical dr. She had a great sense of humor and was very fun. I have a couple of her books all signed by her, not the one that is being talked about, though. Quilt history had not hit my radar screen at that time. Thanks for letting me stroll down memory lane!!

By the way for anyone passing through the Waterloo, Iowa area. There is an exhibit at the Grout Museum of seasonal wallhangings. I am sorry I can't remember the official title of the show. It is up into the month of January. I have heard very nice things about it, but have not been to see it yet. I have several pieces in the show and have had several people come up to me with compliments for my work. :) Also have several friends with pieces on display too. Just for your information, you might want to check it out, if you are in the area!

Sheri in Iowa (waiting for my migraine meds to kick in! Yuck!)


Subject: Re: question on how to remove wax from a quilt From: "Laura

Sherrie, If you are able to, or in an area where it is already cold (definitely NOT Texas!) freeze the baby quilt and "pop" off the wax. You will be amazed as to how much comes out of the fibers. Much more than if you scrape it off. The brown paper bag trick will work for the remainder...but the red dye might not make it out that way. If you keep the wax cold and are very diligent, you can even use a seam ripper and tweezers to carefully remove the cold and hardened wax particles. Washing in warm water with my favorite organic orange oil may get the final wax residue out. Good luck! Laura Hobby Syler Richardson, Texas where we had Fall for a couple of days...........



Subject: Re: question on how to remove wax from a quilt From:

First put the item in the freezer and let the wax freeze hard...then chip away the frozen wax. I often repeat this process several times. If stain left then attack the stain.

I read some where a long time ago...if a red fabric bleeds into a lighter color on a quilt to dampen the red area, apply BIZ detergent/laundry booster powder to the dampen area. That it would absorbe the red dye.

I did try that on a quilt my mother-in-law made my husband and I when we were married which had red applique fabric that bled into the white or off white background fabric. It worked on that. After removing the Biz...I vacummed it to do that. I then washed the quilt and rinse several times. So far, I have not noticed any deteriation of the background fabric that had been affected. That was maybe 20 years ago.

One antique shop I know of that specializes in antique laces, linens, etc. the owner says she only uses Snowy Bleach.

I've saw on tv many years ago on a sewing show a mixture of liquid dove dishwashing detergent and clorox 2 powder was used to clean George Washington's christening gown. I've used that on baby stains when my 24 year old was a baby...worked on those kinds of stains...don't know if it works on dye stains. But that antique shop lady nearly had a spell when I mentioned that to her.

Good luck!


Subject: wax removal From: "Steve and Jean Loken"

This is how I remove wax from tablecloths. I lay the area over an empty bucket (sink would work it you're tall) with a slight depression (sag). Then I boil a tea kettle full of water. I pour the boiling water over the stain from the highest height I can. It seems to drive the wax through the fabric and into the bucket. I don't know what would happen with the various layers of a quilt, but at least it wouldn't be on the top. The height seems to help add pressure to the water stream. Of course, first scrape any hard wax off. I think water is considered harmless. If the quilt were antique, I suppose I would use distilled water. Jean in MN


Subject: Re: wax removal From: <charter.net> Date: Fri, 5

I've never tried this with wax, but I can truthfully say that if you try to *dye* a quilted piece, the batting will absorb much of the dye, especially a cotton batt. I'd try this with a test piece first.

Karen Evans 


Subject: The Dating Cl;ub From: "Lucinda Cawley"

Before I forget all the great stuff (it's been a busy week) I'll tell you about Halloween with Bunnie and Hazel. The theme was "Quilts for Halloween.' This was loosely defined. One of the most appropriate was a candlewick spread (dated 1823!!!!) with pumpkins in the border. A super Crazy was embroidered with larger than life bugs: a roach, a beetle and an amazing spider. 

I don't know how to describe an 1890s curved pieced spiderweb. It's far more sophisticated than the string pieced variety and had a great graphic impact when viewed from across the room. It seems most of us consider an orange quilt appropriate for Halloween, for instance a Lancaster County Streak of Lightening strippy alternating green, orange and oxblood. there was also a wonderfully typical Amish Trip Around the World and what I guess you'd have to call a Bowmansville Squares (like a Bowmansville Star made of tiny squares). 

We some great baby quilts. My favorite was a two-sided quilt circa 1840 with a One Patch back and a Four Patch strippy set on the front (lots of fabulous fabrics and pristine!). An 1860 baby Ocean Waves has a pieced diamond border. A framed center baby quilt with tape binding (1st quarter) came from the Ball estate (descendants of G. Washington's uncle) in Northern VA. 

Mary Lou McDonald from BAS brought her reproduction of the Mary Simon quilt in the DAR collection. The Baltimore ladies who made the original Album quilts would have joined us in giving Mary Lou a standing ovation. Her work is amazing! 

One of the most unusual quilts we saw was a framed center surrounded by crazy patch blocks with occasional small appliques (ears of corn, tassels). The fabrics were all cotton and looked (except for an 1880s border) to date from the 1840s. The strip back is definitely 1840s. Very curious. This quilt prompted the most interesting discussion of the day (that sophisticated design and technical precision do not occur in chronological order) and led to the realization (it happens so often) that the more we know the less we're sure of. 

We saw some wonderful Maryland quilts. A framed center Sunburst (circa 1820) from Frederick was surrounded by a zigzag, flying geese, a solid strip, 2 rows of 4" stars, more flying geese, 2 rows of 8" stars, geese again and a lovely pink and beige stripe border. Another Sunburst (circa 1840) had 25 blocks. Another quilt had setting blocks and borders of an 1840 robin's egg blue chintz that we agreed we would have thought to be 1940s if seen out of context. 

A stunning 1840s Carolina Lily had not only wonderful quilting but used pistachio green for the stems and leaves, turkey red and chrome yellow for the flowers. An 1850s President's Wreath with red sashing and borders came out of the same pillowcases. We really saw fewer PA quilts than usual but an 1890 Ocean Waves in double pink, chrome yellow and double blue helped to keep us from feeling deprived. 

Last but certainly not least was a 1926 outline stitched quilt (black embroidery floss) with borders of every animal you can imagine in different scales and no apparent order. Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Re: rust removers, etc From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney"

Thank you, Judy, for saying it so I didn't have to! <g> Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net

>>Whink contains hydrogen fluoride, which is used in the glass etching industry. For the Material Safety data on Whink go to http://www.whink.com/msdsrr.pdf.

Lemon juice is an acid. Cream of tartar is an acid. Any acid will continue to eat away at a textile if all of it is not completely removed. Ditto on sodium hypochlorite (Clorox bleach.) My question is: How can you be sure you have removed every last little bit of it from a quilt?

Buttermilk contains butterfat- and that is an animal product. It can attract pests, and go rancid. Even butterfat content of 1% or less can do this if it not completely removed from the quilt once the cleaning is done.

In all these instances, the catch is: Can you remove the cleaning chemicals (and all of these are chemicals, folks) one hundred percent from the quilt?

In any case, if you do clean a quilt, keep a record of the product(s) used, and the location on the quilt where you used them. Keep this with other documentation on the quilt. This will aid the conservators of the future who may end up caring for the quilt.>>


Subject: Re: question on how to remove wax from a quilt From: "Larry X-Message-Number: 10

I will try the freezer first and let you know how well it works. I appreciate all the tips. Sherrie



Subject: Removing smoke residue from a quillt From: Judy Knorr

I have an elderly friend whose home burned a year ago. She just moved back into the "new" replacement and is finally dealing with other issues. She has a quilt made by her mother which still smells like smoke and appears to have a dark smokey residue on it. She asked me how to clean it and I'm asking all of you. Thanks, Judy Knorr


Subject: RE: Removing smoke residue from a quillt From: "Margaret

Hi Judy - What is the quilt made of: cotton, silk, wool, etc.? How old is it? What kind of physical condition is it in: tatters; a few holes; a few shreds; binding gone; perfect condition? Did the quilt get wet out or damp from the fire-fighting efforts? If it got wet/damp, was it allowed to dry before it was stored? How was the quilt stored during this past year: controlled environment; warehoused with no temperature/RH control; wrapped in plastic; wrapped in newsprint; put in a cardboard box; stored with other smoke-damaged items? Has there been any cleaning attempts since? Once I have a bit more information, I can give some advice. Do NOT allow the use of ozone treatment at this point in time, however. Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net


Subject: Quilting Party in Sturbridge From: "Karen Evans"

I had a perfectly delightful day at Old Sturbridge Village, where there was a quilting party, documentation by MassQuilts of the Village's collection, and a book signing by Patricia Crews. I didn't attend the book signing or the preceding tea (they were out of tickets when I tried to reserve) but got to almost everything else.

First, the documentation - Lynne Bassett, Vivien Sayre, Margaret Childers and several others were meticulously documenting the OSV quilts. I saw a beautiful chintz patchwork that was being reproduced by OSV staff (see below), a fascinating 1840s pathwork too fragile for display, a crib quilt that seems to have been repaired with a 20th century fabric but was otherwise in great shape, a fragile cotton wholework, and a *gorgeous* black and red strip pieced glazed chintz quilted in a swag pattern. The glazing on the last one was in such great shape that it was almost certainly a "best quilt" that was only displayed on Sundays. Lovely piece, and I hope they find a way to display it from time to time.

Then it was off to the carding mill to watch them card wool for quilt batts. The waterwheel that powers the carding machine was broken, but the docent worked the thing by hand so we could see how it worked (he also worked the carder that produced wool roving for spinning). The design evidently hasn't changed much since the 19th century except that modern versions are metal instead of wood, and powered by electricity.

There was a great little quilting demo going on in the Parsonage (with a charming young woman hand piecing the repro chintz quilt, and my GOD was the blue beautiful!), and a quilting party in the afternoon in the Salem Towne House under the Masonic symbol on the ceiling (the room did double duty as a Masonic lodge for several years). The following quilts were on display on beds in the houses:

Salem Towne House: 1830-1850 whitework from Northboro, central medallion of princess feathers, clamshell background quilting (the quilting party was making a reproduction for display); 1793 dark blue wholecloth calimanco originally owned by the Mather family (yes, them); sweet little strip from 1815-1820; elaborate and *gorgeous* pieced and stencilled quilt made by Clarissa Moore in 1837, when she was all of 15. The colors were sharp and clear and the stencilling was near perfect.

Parsonage: wholecloth comforter from 1830 (hard to see due to it being in the attic on a servant's bed); t-shaped pieced quilt from 1840, the inspiration for the 2005 OSV Quilt Challenge; pieced clamshell quilt from 1810 from Gilmanton, New Hampshire in pinks and tans. These clamshells were about the size of my head, far larger than the usual.

Fenno House: two pieced quilts in star patterns (one Ohio Star, one Star of Lemoyne); one was by Catherine Tower of Connecticut, c. 1840, while the other was made by Lucretia Cogswell Rees of Stockbridge, MA, in 1822. The latter quilt was on an episode of "Simply Quilts."

Bixby House: a lovely Grandmother's Flower Garden/Honeycomb/Hexagon from 1808, paper pieced by Phebe Winsor of Johnston, RI.

And if this wasn't enough...there was a display of quilts in the four natural fibers (wool, linen, silk, and cotton) in the Firearms & Textiles Building. I swear the yellow of the silk quilt was bright enough to ignite a match, even two hundred years after it was made.

I ran into Pam Worthen Weeks for a few minutes (she recognized my cloak!), chatted with Lynne and Vivien, and had the time of my life. Much of the program will be going on tomorrow as well, so give it a look if you're in driving distance!

Karen Evans Easthampton, MA



Subject: Removing smoke from a quilt From: Judy Knorr

I'm sorry that I forgot to provide any details that might help you with suggestions for cleaning the quilt. The quilt is made of cotton fabric and my friend isn't sure what the batting is, but thinks it is probably cotton. The quilt supposedly was dry cleaned by a cleaning company hired by the insurance people right after the fire. When her home burned she was in a rehabilitation center following surgery so she really wasn't around when clean up began. My friend has no idea what or how it was cleaned, but I'm not sure they did anything to it as it looks just like it would look pretreatment!! The quilt is probably around 1900 to 1920 and has been stored in a plastic blanket bag since the fire because it smells so bad! Does this help?? Judy


Subject: Re: Pieced by Mother article From: "Sandra Millett"

Hello All:  I was at Quilt Market in Houston when the H moung discussion began. My  book, First Peoples: The H moung of Southeast Asia was released in 2002. I ha ve a lot of pa ndau from Laos and Thailand. The thing to keep in mind about H moung is that their stitchery from different countries, areas, and even villages can vary widely. What is seen in the US originates from Laotian  H moung who helped the US in Cambodia and Laos during the Vietnam war.  The cover of my book is a close up of a Black H moung girl from Vietnam and  when shown to a Blue H moung lady living in the US she instantly asked, "Boo k about Black Hmoung?"   The Flower, Black and some White H moung live in Vietnam and their pa nd au does not look as if it is from the same tribe of people who make the pa n dau from Laos. As I was expecting to see what is available in the US, when I went to Hanoi, the difference in their stitchery stunned me. While much  of it is done by hand crank sewing machine, however made, their work is exquisite and done without patterns.   Sandra Millett


Subject: Re: rust removers, etc From: Judy Schwender

Hello Margaret- I am no chemist. I am, however, an ardent advocate for old quilts. And if I can convince one person to stop using all these cleaning chemicals, I will die a happy woman. ...and of course Xenia says it best: "If you want to wash [clean] and sntique quilt, lay down until the feeling goes away." Thank YOU for the validation. Judy Schwender

Margaret Geiss-Mooney <mgmooneymoonware.net> wrote: Thank you, Judy, for saying it so I didn't have to! Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net

>>Whink contains hydrogen fluoride, which is used in the glass etching industry. For the Material Safety data on Whink go to http://www.whink.com/msdsrr.pdf.

Lemon juice is an acid. Cream of tartar is an acid. Any acid will continue to eat away at a textile if all of it is not completely removed. Ditto on sodium hypochlorite (Clorox bleach.) My question is: How can you be sure you have removed every last little bit of it from a quilt?

Buttermilk contains butterfat- and that is an animal product. It can attract pests, and go rancid. Even butterfat content of 1% or less can do this if it not completely removed from the quilt once the cleaning is done.

In all these instances, the catch is: Can you remove the cleaning chemicals (and all of these are chemicals, folks) one hundred percent from the quilt?

In any case, if you do clean a quilt, keep a record of the product(s) used, and the location on the quilt where you used them. Keep this with other documentation on the quilt. This will aid the conservators of the future who may end up caring for the quilt.>>


Subject: Dutch Quilts From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net>

Below is An Moonen's post to the Bristish Quilt History List. The book on Dutch quilts is a treasure. Cinda on the Eastern Shore

And now to all of you: First question: I spoke with my Museum director Jan Vaessen[www.openluchtmuseum.nl] about a reprint of my 1992 book QUILTS, A DUTCH TRADITION. Would there be interest from your side? Since years it is sold out. Second question: Would there be interest in a small book from my own collection of dutch antique quilts, which will be small, but with examples since the 17th century? This week I am going to work and make my website up to date. And try to fill in the smapler and linen part. My cousin will teach me how to do so! www.antiquetextile.info Curious hearing from you, it might help! For the ones who are a member of the American History list, please send this further???? Answers will be welcome. You can also send answers to the openairmuseum itself, look at the website or send it to: infoopenluchtmuseum.nl IN the museum they are not aware of the need of it. Hear from you An _________________________

An Moonen antiek textiel deskundige antique textiles specialist the Netherlands phone/fax +31 (26) 311 26 56


Subject: Houston quilt show From: JanetSATXaol.com Date: Mon, 8 No

I was told of an article in the Houston Chronicle published on Sat., Nov. 6, regarding the best of show winner, a painted quilt by Hollis Chatelaine. (sp?)

Has anyone read the article? The headline available online now hints that a painted quilt may be controversial. I would like to know more, and don't have access to the article.

The piece was beautiful in composition and color, with superb workmanship, and was made of 3 layers with machine quilting. I think that is a quilt. What do y'all think? Janet, now of Ohio


Subject: Re: Houston quilt show From: <charter.net> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:02:40 +0000 X-Message-Number: 4

I just read it, and the complaints seemed to be that "it didn't look like it belonged on a bed," or "it should be pieced." Given that quilts have been stencilled (which is a form of painting) for almost two hundred years, and that the quilt itself is three layers held together by stitching, I think it's a non-issue.

Here's the URL of the article so people can judge for themselves. I personally think it's a quilt - as I've been trying to tell people for years, *quilts are not necessarily pieced*. This one looks like a painting instead of a traditional quilt, but then again, look at some of the stuff Nancy Crow and Michael James have done over the years.

Karen Evans



Subject: "art" quilts From: "Newbie Richardson"

Dear List, I'd like to start a discussion about "art" and "studio art" quilts. As many of you know, I am not at all interested in quilts made post 1945: (other than looking at them and admiring the skill of the makers). The thought of keeping track of the quilt revival movement of the 2nd half of the 20th century: block of the month, guild prize winners, etc makes my head hurt! However, I am very interested in learning more about those "quilts" which the makers define as art - in the sense of "fine art". As I understand it ( until I am otherwise pursuaded) "art quilts are to quilts what fine art is to the decorative arts." - related but not the same. ( In the same sense that "fine" antiques are not shown at the same venues - generally - as 'folk art' is. Usually speaking, these are divided into two distinct types of shows. Although, one does occasionally see some pieces of folk art in the "fine art' shows) Art quilts happen to be works of contemporary art done using fibers as the medium. As such their logical venues would be art galleries, not quilt shows. If I follow through on that train of thought, then they are better evaluated by those with a knowledge of contemporary art history and the fiber arts, as opposed to those with a knowledge of the history of needlework and the decorative arts. This querry does not come out of the blue. I have just reviewed the program for the IQSC symposium in February:"Collectors Collecting and Collections" and studio art quilts are included in the discussion. As I plan to attend, I need to expand my knowledge base. I have the Shaw book: "The Art of the Quilt" - what else should I be reading? Best Newbie Richardson



Subject: Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat. From: "sue

With Christmas coming, some of us are looking to upgrade or purchase new  digital cameras. Could those of you in QHL land share your digital  camera favorites? Here are my requirements. I want a digital camera that is good at  photographing textiles. I want to be able to photograph a quilt from  across the room and do a thread count. I want a camera with the movie  mode to capture those precious grandchild moments but also with a book  copy mode. I want one the has a quick refresh time with a memory disk  that holds hundreds of pics. Affordable is important and accurate color  with minimal adjustment needed. I don't even know if I am asking the  right questions here. Looking for advice. Ho, Ho, Ho, sue reich


Subject: Re: Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat. From:

Sue if you find one that does all of this and is reasonable I want one too!!!!!! Please post the answers to the list as I also am interested in upgrading my camera if there is one like Sue wants out there and reasonable! Thanks, Kathie in NJ 


Subject: Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat and poor er by

Sue -- the latest issue of Fortune now on the newstands reviews the best and newest in digitals. You may want to get a copy at the library to read the features of these cameras, some which offer 8 megapixels.


Subject: Megapixels From: "sue reich" <suereichcharter.net>

I know that megapixels are important but do you have to go as high as 8.  I am interested in photos for study purposes not necessarily publisher  ready. Is around 5 or 6 megapixels good quality? sue ------_NextPart_000_000D_01C4C638.A436CEA0--


Subject: Re: Megapixels From: Joan Kiplinger <jkipncweb.com> Date:

Sue -- my understanding is that most digitals now are between 3 and 4 and quite adequate. The new ones which are more slanted to your purpose are being offered in 4 to 6 but the price tag is a tad high. I don't have a digital but just having purchased a new HP Photosmart printer, I am in the market for a camera. My knowledge of digitals is nil; from what others have said, the higher the megapixel, the more battery power is required which can be very costly -- my brother changes batteries at a drop of the hat, even shooting at low resolution. Perhaps others can comment on that economic factor. Like Sue, any help is appreciated.


Subject: Re: Megapixels From: Dana at Material Pleasures

Hi Sue, My camera has 3 (was the top of the line a few years ago)...I am looking to upgrade as well. The 3 takes great pics...but my close ups are less than desired, so I am looking for a camera that will take a pic of a coin and be able to read "In God We Trust". Best thing to do is take a few fabric samples with you to Best Buy and ask them if you can take some pics to test the camera...that will show you how easy/hard they are to use and if you are getting your desired results. And let me know if you decide on anything...I love my Canon and am leaning towards that just because I am comfortable with it. My best, Dana


Subject: Re: Megapixels From: Babette Moorleghen

I have an HP digital camera my DH and I purchased for ourselves for Christmas last year. It has 3 megapixel and I have 2 extra memory cards. This camera takes great pictures even close up although I haven't tried to do a thread count. Guess that's a project for today! I can take pictures of the quilting detail that is pretty clear. As to battery life... this one uses batteries at the drop of a hat! I haven't kept track of just how many pictures I can take before I have to replace the batteries but I can tell you I carry extra batteries with me, especially if I am attending a quilt show or want to note a particular pattern on an antique quilt I've located. The cost of this camera was less that $150 about a year ago so I'm sure it could be picked up for less than that now. That's my .02 worth on the digital camera. Everyone have a great day! Hugs, Babette in sunny Southern Illinois


Subject: Re: Megapixels From: "Marcia Kaylakie"

Sue, I get wonderful images with a 6 megpixel camera. Even a 3.2 is OK for study purposes. Marcia


Subject: Houston quilt and dutch book From: "Judy Anne"

Karen, Thanks for the link to the newspaper article. I would love to be able to see the actual quilting. I did find a larger picture on the artist's site but still can't see the quilting. http://www.holKarenrt.com/Pages/gallery/gal2_preciouswater.htm I'll be interested in hearing more about how it looks up close from those that went to Houston.

Cindy, Do you think there is any chance she could get the book published in English and sold in this country? I think there would be a real interest in it and would be glad to promote it on my websites.

Judy Anne

http://womenfolk.com/historyofquilts http://historyofquilts.com


Subject: Re: Houston quilt and dutch book From:

I've seen copies in English but never saw much publicity when it was first published. I'd *love* to see a reprint. 


Subject: Re: qhl digest: November 08, 2004 From: DDBSTUFFaol.com

Hello Margaret- I am no chemist. I am, however, an ardent advocate for old quilts. And if I can convince one person to stop using all these cleaning chemicals, I will die a happy woman. ...and of course Xenia says it best: "If you want to wash [clean] and sntique quilt, lay down until the feeling goes away." Thank YOU for the validation. Judy Schwender Well, if I didn't have to make a living selling antique quilts, I'd certainly agree with this. However, in a world where buyers notice a fly speck before they see the pattern, cleaning is a necessary evil and I'm always looking for a better, safer, gentler method. (Gee, sounds like a political speech). Anyway, I'm still waiting for an idea other than Wink and Lemon Juice. There has got to be more than those doesn't there?



Subject: Digital Cameras From: "Julia D. Zgliniec" <rzglini1san.rr.com>

Good Morning All,

I am quite happy with my Kodak 4800 - which is no longer made. It is 3MP. I would look for the same features again in a Kodak or a Canon.

It uses rechargeable batteries. I carry an extra battery and a recharger at all times which fit in my camera case as they are small. It is easy to exchange batteries on the fly and recharge in about an hour( if you have access to an outlet). This is a one time purchase!

It uses the Scandisk type flash cards. Easy to find - and fit in the "slots" of other devices and the film developers at photo counters. This feature is nice when on a trip. I used this feature at the Shelburne 2 years ago to check to make sure my pictures came out before I left town.

It has the ability to accept lenses - which of course would include close up and telephoto - if I had them. I can do a 6" close up of fabric and then zoom in on the computer to get a pretty good close up (if I have held the camera really still) If I need more than a few good close-ups - this model will accept my tripod if needed)

It has manual settings which can be set to override any auto setting. I can change F-stop and exposure as needed.

In other words - it works like my old 35 mm but is digital.

For excellent comparison charts, go to pcworld.com and do a search on digital cameras - you will get more information than you would ever want on all the various features.

3-4 MP is just fine unless you want to print 8x10 enlargements.

Good luck - there are an amazing number of choices out there.

Julia Zgliniec


Subject: Re: Houston quilt show From: Laura Robins-Morris

If this quilt is anything like her "Blue Men" quilt, in other words stitched to a faretheewell, then it certainly IS a quilt. The painting is just a base and it is the machine quilting that creates the real image and design.

If a whole cloth quilt is a quilt, then this certainly is one too.

See her web site for a detail photo but I wish I could see more. http://www.holKarenrt.com/Pages/gallery/galleryframe.html

As to the folks who think a quilt belongs on a bed - well, what can you say! Hollis's work is amazing. And a fine example of expert quiltmaking and artistry.

Laura in Seattle, envious of anyone who went to Houston.


Subject: RE: Houston quilt show controversy or not? From: "Jennifer

Hi, all,

I was at Houston this past week and did get to read the article in the Houston Chronicle. Personally, I felt the article writer was creating controversy where there really isn't any. First off, the headline is misleading "Should Quilter Reap What She Didn't Sew?" The article writer contradicts herself, because in describing the process to produce the quilt, the author states that the quilter machine quilted the entire thing. In my opinion, that means she did sew the quilt. Okay, but that is neither here nor there. I thought quilting was sewing through layers of fabric. Whole cloth quilts, embroidered quilts and obviously, stenciled quilts are not pieced, but are still quilts. I do believe that a quilt should be considered a bed covering, but if one person can't see a particular quilt on his bed doesn't mean that somebody else might not put it on her bed. There was a fantastic hand appliqued, hand quilted piece that won one of the other prizes, and the quilter used some ink to draw in little vines. Both the painted piece and the hand appliqued and hand quilted piece took my breath away. I was quite impressed by how the quilting in the winning quilt emphasized and enhanced the overall image. I was impressed by the dedication of the hand applique and hand quilting quilter, in sticking with the project for 4 years. Incredible works of art on both counts.

I did feel that most of the judged quilts were not made in the traditional sense. There's a lot of fabric variety (read, not cotton) and multi media used on these quilts, as well as very few traditional pieced patterns we would recognize (anyone see the bra quilt? what a stitch (pun intended). I didn't appreciate them any less. There was also a great display of historic quilts. I feel that no matter what century or techniques used, each one I observed had something to put me in a state of awe. Every single quilt had someone's time and talent in it and each one deserved its own applause. I applaud anyone who will make one and enter it in the judged competitions.

This being my first trip to Houston, I seriously got quilt overload, though. I had no idea what it was like. I had been to Chicago in 2003 and my mom said "No where near as big as Houston." I had no idea what I was in for at Houston. I didn't have the chance to take classes, but the whole thing was just mind boggling and exhausting. As well as thrilling and fascinating. I did pick up some beautiful tatting shuttles and thread (I tat), some tatting books, a whole stash of fat quarters of the Aunt Grace Friends Around the World line (love that 30s stuff), some embroidery designs and some info on clothing pattern making software programs. Overwhelmed by the volume of antique quilt booths and the volume of quilts within them. Hard to pull myself away from Legacy Quilts, because she labels every quilt so nicely!

If you haven't been to Houston, I suggest you try to go once. I can't seem myself going every year, but it is an inspiring and fascinating mix of people, quilts, and quilt related products. No wonder it's the Granddaddy!

Jennifer Van Haaften in IL


Subject: Re: Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat. From:


As you know I am one with my camera. It is almost never out of my purse -- well except for the 3 weeks when it went back to Canon for repair. I have a Canon Power Shot S-50. It offers 5 mega pixels, 12x digital zoom, movie mode with a microphone built in, and a lot more. When doing fabric study, in close-up mode I can count threads per inch. When I go to a conference I carry (2) 256 MB memory cards plus the 32 MB card that came with the camera and is used only as a last resort, and two rechargeable batteries. I don't know what book copy mode is, but it probably has that too.

I start the day with both batteries fully charged and all cards empty. I've never been anywhere where I couldn't plug in the charger and in the time it takes to use up the second battery the first is recharged enough to continue. At Montgomery I used up 2 full batteries and 2 partially charged batteries.

I'll have a disk for you at study group next week of all that I took in Portland, and you can play with my camera then if you want.


Judy, aka the Ringoes Kid judygrowpatmedia.net 


Subject: Election fabric From: jeanlester <jeanlesterntown.net>

On one of my lists, someone mentioned fabric with "2004 and Bush and Kerry" on it. I called the shop where it supposedly resided (Framingham, MA) and they knew nothing about it. Does anybody know if it really exists? I "need" a couple of yards.



Subject: Re: Election fabric From: Ivory22986aol.com Date: Tue, 9

I would like some to Jean

On one of my lists, someone mentioned fabric with "2004 and Bush and Kerry" on it. I called the shop where it supposedly resided (Framingham, MA) and they knew nothing about it. Does anybody know if it really exists? I "need" a couple of yards.


Queen of Love and Beauty


Subject: Re: Houston quilt show From: Xenia Cord

I have just returned from Houston, and I fully agree with Jennifer that the writer of the newspaper article on Hollis Chatelaine's extraordinary quilt was trying to create a controversy where none existed. Those she interviewed for the article were untutored in quiltmaking and quilt composition, and obviously had no experience with a quilt of this caliber.

"Precious Water" is visually stunning, technically excellent and is more about threadplay than painting, and is entirely deserving of every accolade it accumulates. I am not especially interested in studio art quilts, but this one was arresting and compelled my interest. Next to it hung Margaret Docherty's fabulous and very traditional appliqué, also a top winner, and the two did not clash at all - two wonderful quilts made by two very different but equally talented women.


(And thanks for the kind comments about the quilt labels in my Legacy Quilts booth, Jennifer!)


Subject: Recommendations regarding QH speakers From: "Beth Davis"

Hello, The Genesee Country Museum in Mumford, NY is contemplating the possibility of putting on a special quilt weekend next spring (May 2005) and (hopefully) an extension of the wonderful show of their antique quilts through next summer. I was asked for recommendations for a person to lecture during the weekend. I gave them a few names, but not having much experience with this, was not sure who else to suggest, with such a relatively short notice and most likely not unlimited funds.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks!! Beth Davis ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Recommendations regarding QH speakers From: "Karen

Hm...what sort of show is it, and what sort of quilts? That would be my first question. Also, who's in that area and/or willing to travel?

Karen Evans


Subject: Re: Election fabric From: "Lucinda Cawley"

Jean, if you find the election fabric please let us know. I "need" some too. Cinda


Subject: Re: Recommendations regarding QH speakers From: "Beth Davis"

Hi Karen, The GCM is a 19th Century "Living" museum, which is made up of a variety of old homes and buildings which were moved to the location and renovated. Their collection of quilts is based in the same period of time, originally collected to be put on the beds in the homes. The quilts were brought out of storage this past year, repairs were made, and the quilts hung in the Art Gallery. There are now plans to re-hang the quilts next summer, as the exhibit was such a success. The weekend show is being proposed by the staff at the museum in May (possibly 21-22)to kick-off the new season and to perhaps draw in a audience interested specially in quilt history/dating. There is also some discussion about a possible catalogue being published to go along with the show (Yipee!!)

I have gotton a few responses from QHL-ers and will pass this on to the director/curator at the museum.



Subject: Re:Digital Cameras From: DDBSTUFFaol.com

If you go to PC Magazine. Com, you'll be able to find reviews of digital cameras.

Also, you might want to check Consumer's Report on line or at your library.

They keep getting better and smaller. I get good results from my Nikon 995 but it is 3 years old and the new Nikons are much smaller. Anything over 3 mega pixels should do you well but as far as fast recharge, etc., you'll need to do you research. PC Magazine is a great place to start.



Subject: Digital Camera batteries From: "Bonnie Dwyer" 

Hello all,

Sue Reich asked about cameras. I have one suggestion: I recommend getting a camera with rechargeable batteries. My Nikon Cool Pix (one of the older models) has one and I love it. The charger is extremely lightweight and easy to take along.

Bonnie Dwyer, in frosty Maine, where it was 11 degrees this morning


Subject: please don't hit reply From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:05:14 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

This is a picky request maybe....but when you respond to a message would you please not hit "reply". It is very annoying for us Digest Readers to have to figure out what is the new message and the old. It all sort of runs together. I can do it, but since I often print out the "digest" I have to cut and paste like a wild woman if "reply" was used often as it was today for the digital camera comments. Many many thanks. No one responded to how the Fla. quilt project will be done. Will it be treated as several states? How will Fla. quilts be determined? Thanks again, Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC


Subject: Rust stains From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net> 

Dear List, The problem with removing rust stains is that the stain is the result of change in the chemical structure of the fibers. Many stains are from matter that sits on top of the fibers, sometimes dying the outer fibers in the process ( mold, mildew). Rust penetrates the porous nature of the fibers. Thus the only way to remove it is to invade the structure of the fiber. Invading the fiber changes it - makes it weaker. So it is a trade off - no rust vs weaker structural integrity of the fabric. The chemists on the list: please forgive this version of the process ! Newbie Richardson


Subject: Houston Quilt Show From: AndreaBlackhurstaol.com 

For someone like myself, with no interest in art quilts, there is less and less reason to go to the Houston quilt show. Almost all of the special exhibits are art quilts, as are the majority of quilts hung in the judged show.

Andrea near Dayton

I still enjoy the quilt related vendors, though.


Subject: Political quilts From: "Pam Weeks Worthen" <pamworthenhotmail.com> 

Hi friends,

Time to buckle down and finish the research for my final project for my Museum Studies class. I'm working on a hypothetical propoal for an exhibit of political quilts, and need more information/examples before I can decide how to narrow my focus.

I think that I have my hands on all the exhibit catalogs and books on political ephemera and quilts with campaign textiles that I need for the nineteenth century, but a re-hash would be helpful from this group.

I am interested in the input for sources for twentieth and twenty-first century quilters who have made political statements in quilts. Didn't someone make protest quilts for the election of 2000 with hanging chads, etc?

any and all information will be helpful at this point!

thanks in advance!

Pam Weeks Worthen in NH


Subject: RE: Rust stains From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" <mgmooneymoonware.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:24:19 -0800 X-Message-Number: 11

You are forgiven, Newbie! You stated it very well. I also like to point out that that any chemicals we put on the fibres, whether intentionally or accidentally, are indiscriminate - the chemicals can't tell that they are only supposed to interact with the rust molecules and not the fibre/dye/embellishment/thread molecules. The chemicals interact with all of the molecules. You also can't gauge how much chemical you need accurately enough - if you use too much of, say, rust remover, the rust remover keeps right on reacting with all of those molecules present even though it was done interacting with the rust molecules a long time (in a molecule's lifespan) ago. ..hmmm...I wonder if nanotechnology will be a possible solution to this in the future... Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net


Subject: Re: Political quilts From: "Christine Thresh" <christinewinnowing.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:24:10 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12

See the "Indecision Quilt" at: http://www.suzannesquilts.com/indecision/Indecisionquilt.htm

The quilt itself isn't too thrilling, but some of the blocks are fun.

Christine Thresh http://www.winnowing.com


Subject: Christmas is Coming From: Judy Knorr <jknorroptonline.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:31:18 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13

Sue, I also have a Canon Power Shot. Mine is a bit older model than the one Judy recommended so it has only 3.2 megapixels and I love it. When I upgrade I will probably go to the one Judy has . I started out to look for a PHD (push here dummy) camera as I hate having to set a bunch of settings before I can take a picture!! I also wanted one that was small and would fit in my pocket when I'm at a quilt show. This one fits the requirements and is great. I can take a picture of a quilt standing much closer to the quilt than most people. I've had people follow me around at quilt shows to find out what camera I am using. The battery charger is great and I have two chips for mine both 256.. Another neat feature is a cable that allows you to connect the camera to the TV set and view what you have taken through the TV. It's great for checking your pictures when you can return to shoot the subject again if you aren't happy. My only struggle has to do with photographing grandchildren rather than quilts! My camera focuses itself and requires an extra second or two before taking the picture. Grandchildren move more quickly than that so I need to practice predicting where they are going. No problem here with quilts moving however. The pictures this camera produces are great and I have printed 8 x 10s with no problem. Judy Knorr


Subject: need dates of AQSG 2005 From: "Marcia Kaylakie" <marciarkearthlink.net> Date: Wed, 

Hi All,=20 Can someone on the list help me out here? I need the dates for AQSG 2005 = in Golden, CO. Thanks, Marcia Marcia Kaylakie, AQS Certified Appraiser Austin, TX 


Subject: Update on Sanitary Commission Quilt project From: "Linda Heminway" <ibquiltncomcast.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:29:25 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17

Today was a wonderful day, ladies and gentleman.... it all started for me about 4:00 am and now, I am finally sitting for a moment after dinner. We had a wonderful group of people come today and we all made a great team! So, here is a link to a photo album web site: http://www.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?showSlide=true&Uc=b1dqjnvj.alsfnut7&Uy=-c6g8ts&Ux=0 If you click on a spot on the right side that says slideshow, you can recline in your chair and see the events of the day in a leisurely fashion! We all worked hard on all six quilts today, and I think many made some new friends! We got all the tops done, one quilt got sandwiched, and one got finished! The one quilt that got finished, you will see, is different from the rest. This one is a donated top that was given to me in red, white and blue and it is going, especially, to the four year old son of a soldier who was killed just three weeks ago from Littleton NH. I know he will cuddle with it and it will be treasured. The rest of the quilts will be so beautiful, as you can see. We are going to have a few of our group meet again next Wednesday to work on completing these quilts. We'll just keep working until they are done! I think the turkey red sashing really shows off these repro fabrics! Our work is now part of history. We are doing a great thing. One day when we are no longer in this world, our names and the story of these quilts will live on. We are comforting, showing that we care, and creating history stitch by stitch. I truly wish you all could have been there today, but that was not possible, so I hope you enjoy the photos! By the way, a fellow Onion named Karen Crowe drove two hours (one way) to be there today. She worked with a converted handcrank! I especially appreciate her coming all that way! She and I snuck back to my house near the end of the day to take a quick sewing machine collection tour! I so enjoyed that part of my day, as well, and wished we had more time for machine related chat. But will have to leave that for another day! Linda Heminway Exhausted but feeling really happy to have gotten so much done in Plaistow NH


Subject: RE: Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat and poor er by the minute From: "pines" <pinesearthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:50:19 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18


Sounds like a wonderful camera--if it exists. Just a thought though--go to a local camera store--such as Penn Camera, Tell them what you are looking for, they will show you the wonderful camera's they have on hand. Then compare the price with someplace like Amazon.com and see where you can get the best deal. One year DH bought a wonderful camera for me at Christmas and in February, when the new models came out, that camera went down in price $200.



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