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Subject: Katrina quilts From: "Barbara Vlack" <cptvdeosbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:26:07 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

It is because of information posted here recently about the WWII quilts that I have told others who are making Katrina relief quilts to be sure to sign them. Their interest in making these quilts was perked when I told them how some of the WWII quilts have survived and are surfacing now. While survival of the quilts is not nearly as high on the priority list as the survival of the receivers of these quilts, it is still encouraging to know that some of these quilts may survive to help tell the story of Katrina many years from now.

Thank you, Gail, for your journaling about your experiences now. And Sheryl, I'm saddened yet heartened by what you have written. Thank you. We can never fully appreciate what you're going through because we're not there. "Been there and know some people there" helps to personalize the tragedy that is otherwise touching us all in many ways.

Pat, it's not a surprise that there would be rumors about the Houston show being cancelled going around at events such as Martha's Quilting Academy. That probably came because the Houston mayor announced, when they were starting to accept evacuees to the Astrodome and the Convention Center, that all events would be cancelled for several months. Karey Bresenhan, the director of Market and IQF, must have done some pretty powerful lobbying in order to come back and say that the Houston show WILL GO ON. That is not a rumor. That is not a supposition. It is an official announcement that can be verified at www.quilts.com I don't know how she did this, but Karey has promises from the mayor and the Convention Center that our event will happen. It might help greatly that they depend on the financial support these two events offer to Houston, which now more than ever could use it. Today I have to make my airline reservation for Houston. Last week was still a little iffy.

Barb Vlack cptvdeosbcglobal.net


Subject: cotton batting From: "Virginia Berger" <cifbanetins.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:55:10 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

I have a Dresden Plate top that I am sending to my mother's church group to be hand quilted. I want to use a cotton batt and am looking for comments about which brand is easiest to needle.

Thankd in advance.

Virginia in Iowa


Subject: Re: cotton batting From: Judy Kelius <quiltsptd.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:14:31 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

I like Quilter's Dream Select (the thinnest). - Judy


Subject: Re: cotton batting From: "deb" <debquiltingposs.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:07:48 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

I agree with Judy about the Quilter's Dream but Request is the thinnest batting they sell. I also like Hobb's Organic cotton.

Debbie in NJ


Subject: Katrina From: "Lloyd E. Miller" <lemillernycap.rr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:11:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

I must add my thanks to Gail and the others who have provided insight beyond the media. Just as our little weekly quilt group discusses quilts and quilt-related subject AND anything else that anyone wishes to bring up in a safe venue where differing opinions are accepted, so also do I think that in the larger arena we as quilters do not exist in a vacuum. We are living tomorrow's history, and what we do now as quilters will someday be viewed in that context.

And yes. We can go out and buy fleece blankets, which are certainly cheap enough and will keep one warm, or we can add that extra bit of effort that says we really care enough to make a quilt that says 'this is personal'.

Linda Miller


Subject: quilts for Katrina victims From: <gingramtcainternet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 9:57:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6

While I know most of us are making quilts for people displaced from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, it occurred to me that some group might be interested in acknowledging the efforts of those who distinguished themselves for courage and action while the agencies of local, state, and federal government dithered.

One of those is the owner of an ambulance service active throughout Southwest Louisiana. Immediately after the sorm passed, he marshalled all his company's ambulances, EMT personnel, and MedEvac helicopters to a point just outside the city. City and state authorities had refused to give him permission to bring his people and machinery into the city, even though they were desperately needed. No permit, it seems.

Being of sound mind and grasping the enormity of the situation, he chose simply to ignore authorities. His helicopters dropped bags of ice; rescued those they could. He used all he had at his disposal to save as many people as he could---all while officialdom quibbled over power and responsibilities. He ran a great risk, of course, since our state is highly litigous, and many attorneys and individuals thrive off what in many states would be thrown out of courts as frivolous. He simply acted on behalf of those in need.

Perhaps someone on our list is in a quilting group that has members who are among emergency responders and would be interested in acknowledging the courage and disinterested service this man and his firm offered and the example his actions offer. If so, please contact me


Subject: Classic quilt pattern reply From: "Nancy Roberts" <aquilteralltel.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:17:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

Thanks for inviting our thoughts on this topic. It's been most interesting to read the replies.

1. What old quilt block pattern is your favorite? Picking just one is a challenge, but I have a particular fondness for the Dresden Plate. Curved designs in general appeal to me.

2. How often do you see new quilts that are made from old classics? More are than aren't, at least at the quilt shows and guild show-and-tell times that I see. Even in recent books such as Becky Goldsmith's and Linda Jenkins' "Quilts with a Spin", the quilts are updated versions of classic pattersn like Pickel Dish, Princess Feather, and Whig's Defeat. And, oh yes, there's a wonderful quilt called Dresden Dots that is on my to-do list.

3. If you make quilts, do you ever make a quilt from an old favorite? Pretty consistently. My love for vintage quilts keeps me tied to them. The only departures I can think of is when I make folk-art designs or "story quilts" as taught by teacher Mary Lou Weidman. And many of these are often based on or incorporate old favorite blocks. And I've not yet made an entire quilt in my favorite Dresden Plate design, only a few blocks (enough to know how much I enjoy it).

4. Do you think that the intricacy of some of these old patterns are proving too challenging for quilters? I'd say that the skill level is not too challenging and would say that most quilters are up to the task of completing them technically. My guess is that the time factor is what drives the popularity of large pieces, simple yet effective designs, fusible applique, and other quick/easy techniques.

Nancy Roberts


Subject: Katrina quilts and TV From: "Andi" <andi0613iowatelecom.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:54:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8

This is a mu

I whole heartedly agree with those who have observed that good work seems to last and that comprehensive labels will be invaluable to recipients and historians. I'm taking longer than I thought to put together a simple Rail Fence crib quilt in the Mardi Gras colors of purple (justice), green (faith) and gold (power), but I'm happy knowing the seams will withstand lots of love and the quilt will be straight. My tiny town of 1,000 is fortunate to have a nursing home, which my dog, Elsa, and I have visited many times. They called the other day to offer to tie any tops I make. It's overwhelming to think that people with enormous problems of their own want to help any way they can. I no longer see these Katrina quilts as an immediate project, but one that will continue for a couple of years. Those who enjoy the History Channel probably already know that there is a special on Katrina tonight at 8 pm EST. I happened upon footage and interviews from Camille on this channel just an hour ago. The parallels of damage at Pass Christian are unnerving (only the hairstyles have changed), but so were the determination and spirit of the survivors, and that invokes tears, too. All of us who have suggested that doing something helps the makers as well as the recipients are spot on. My thanks to all who have contributed to an inside view of what's going on along the Gulf coast.


Andi in Keota, Iowa, who lived 14 years in Tallahassee, FL and went through the "No Name" storm that was, in fact, a hurricane in March


Subject: RE: cotton batting From: "Velia Lauerman" <velialivehotmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:35:26 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9

Try QUILTER'S DREAM 100% pure cotton batting Kelsul,Inc. 2700 avenger Dr. #109, Virginia Beach, Va., 23452, 757-463-3264 and tell them I sent you. Velia Lauerman Heirloom Pieces 313 605 2171. You may also get samples for their wide selection of synthetic batts. Our group uses it for hand and machine quilting. Can't say enough about it you must try it. Why don't you quilt it? Are you a quilter? Velia


Subject: More on Kitchener, ON From: Jennifer Hill <jennifer.hillshaw.ca> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:13:13 -0600 X-Message-Number: 11

> > enough to want to make provision for it 'in case'. (Its label declares >> it to come from Kitchener, Canada - if there's anyone who knows the >> place I'd love to hear from you). > >Kitchener is located in Ontario province, just north of Lake Erie, and is >named for the famous (infamous?) Lord Kitchener, British commander in the Boer Wars.

Gail is indeed correct about this town's namesake. However, up until the outbreak of WW1, its name was Berlin. With Canada being then at war with Germany, it just wouldn't do to have a major town named after the enemy's capital, so the name was changed to honour Lord Kitchener, who had yet to prove his incompetance in prosecuting this war.

Jennifer Hill Calgary, AB


Subject: Re: More on Kitchener, ON From: Gail Ingram <gingramtcainternet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:40:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12

How interesting, Jennifer. Did the original name suggest a German settlement, or was it just honorific, which would not be unusual, given the Royal Family's connections?

Are there many other Canadian towns like this one?

Like Battenberg/Mountbatten and similar changes, I guess.

I've read of changes like that in the U.S. As well.

Thanks for the enlightenment.



Subject: Re: cotton batting From: CAROL GODREAU <imaquilter2sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:22:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 13

Quilters Dream Select is my most favorite to handquilt with but wool is a nice batt too. Carol in CT


Subject: Re: hurricane etc From: Kay Fair <Kaytreestump.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:26:48 -0600 X-Message-Number: 14

I have to agree with Barb. I have been reading Gail's posts along with a woman named Rachel who belongs to a bookgroup listserv that I keep up with. Between those two, I feel that I have a far better understanding of what's happening to actual people, rather than communities. The news gives such a broad overview of what they perceive is real, newsworthy, and that they think viewers will find compelling in the short time that they have to present the "story." Gail has been able to put a human face on it and for me, it is far more real than just watching it on the news from here in Denver. I have seen far more political diatribes in postings from other groups over the last week.

Kay in Littleton, CO


Subject: Textile Recovery From: Palamporeaol.com Date:

I just received a letter from AIC (The American Institute for Conservation of Historic and Artistic Works) detailing the efforts that the organization is taking to assist the people affected by Hurricane Katrina. The site below gives a great deal of links, and articles. This is a wonderful detailed site. Please pass it on if you know people in the area who might need this information.

_http://aic.stanford.edu/library/online/disaster/index.html_ (http://aic.stanford.edu/library/online/disaster/index.html)

I am sure that the conservation/restoration efforts will go on for a very long time. They are also looking for volunteers to help out down there. Off to prepare for Hurricane Ophelia. Looks like we will begin to get rain tomorrow, and maybe some flooding on Wed. We have property on Atlantic Beach which might get extra wind and water. My son has been surfing all afternoon, and says the waves are incredible. I have to hand him over to God when he does this stuff......... Good night, Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC


Subject: reproduction fabric question From: "Steve and Jean Loken" <sandjlokenatt.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:09:19 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16

Hi all, It's fun to read everyone's responce to Marcia's question. I have always admired the Lady of the Lake quilt. The one that sucked me in is on page 84 of Kiracofe's American Quilt. I have a question about my attempt to reproduce that, that I direct at anyone who has the book and knowlede of repro fabrics. I'd like to do it as close to each fabric as I can get. The quilt itself is in the Los Angeles Co. museum, and the web-site shows a photo of the quilt but unfortunately the resolution of that screen is about the same as in the book. That is, if you try to enlarge it, all you get is a break-up into dots that doesn't actually show more detail. My question today is about the fabric the quilter used at the center of each block and in the corners. In some blocks it looks pink and in others yellow, and in yet a few others, both. Was there ever a pink to yellow ombre fabric? She took such care to be consistent in that center, it makes me wonder. I think other fabrics will also be hard to find - that wavy pink stripe, that navy and brown plaid with brown plaid in a smaller scale within it, that fabric with reddish stripes that appears to be a "cheater" print surrounding the center block. On the reproductionfabrics.com site I frequent there are no repro plaids. Anyone know a source for them? Thanks for any help. Marcia, your questions got everyone thinking. Jean in MN who did some stash reduction making a Trip around the World for Katrina relief.


Subject: Where do I start? From: "Nancy Smith" <stptquiltnutcharter.net> 

I'm new to quilt research and am awed by the knowledge of all of you regarding quilts.

I found a pamphlet that has swatches of fabrics in it and am trying to date the pamphlet/fabric.

The pamphlet is from Marshall Field & Company, Printed Batiste, No. 1302, Assortment "B", Department 45. It says 30-35 Yard Pieces, Doubled and Rolled, 20 Piece Carton Assortment, 38/9 Inch.

Can you please get me in the right direction as to where I begin looking to date this?

Thank you. :)

Nancy Smith 3725 Simonis Street Stevens Point, WI 54481 715-341-9115 stptquiltnutcharter.net


Subject: thank you A. E. Housman From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> 

My plan was to protest gas prices by not going to Sully (or any where else while prices were above $3.00 per gallon) and then I woke up Sunday morning thinking "fifty springs are little room" and I have far less time than that to be looking at quilts. At some point in the not too distant future I may not feel able to drive 300 miles in a day to look at quilts so I'd better do it now. I'm so glad I did. I even found gas for $2.95. It was a beautiful day, not too hot, no humidity, great quilts. Almost the first one I saw captured my heart, an 1840 Album Block from PA (I'd guess Chester or Delaware County, maybe Philadelphia) with smallish blocks set without sashing or borders, every block signed, way too expensive for me. The Album block is my favorite! The same dealer had an orange and green 4-Patch in a 9-Patch set with a pair of matching pillow cases (very rare). The back of both quilt and cases was a great brown seaweed print. I loved a scrappy Sunburst with fabulous quilting and an amazing medallion with a Lone Star as the center, a chintz appliqué border and an outer border of Delectable Mountains blocks (obviously this lady could do it all). All of the above were in just one dealer's booth! 

I'm very aware of Farmer's Fancy quilts since I reread the West VA book last fall and there was a great one hanging close to three super Album Block quilts. A double pink and green one was set on point with purple sashing (from PA, of course). The second was pieced of chrome orange and green set on double pink with a delicate green and white stripe for the sashing and borders. The one that really inspired me was totally scrappy within the individual blocks. There was a sweet Album quilt with appliquéd sashing (delicate vines and flowers with a slightly different motif in each border and sashing). The binding had a tiny red piping. I loved the quilt, but had to shake my head when the dealer tried to tell me it dated from 1830! Another delightful album dated 1849 had lots of decorated signatures (one said Harrisburg). The blocks were small, as the PA Albums tend to be, with charming small scale designs. 

My favorite was a wreath of pears with a wreath of tiny strawberries a close second. I've never seen a pear wreath before so it had to be my favorite. Another block had stuffed grapes that were less than a quarter inch in diameter. Another block I like a lot is Mariner's Compass and I saw the ultimate yesterday: nine very large (maybe 24") Compass blocks with at least 32 points (I should have counted them) in turkey reds, soft pinks, butterscotch yellows, Lafayette blues, rich browns with sashing and border of a riotous red and gold chintz. We spread that quilt out on the grass and nobody could walk by without stopping to stare. In the "you don't see that often" category was a Whig's Defeat top which the dealer had found in Meriden, CT (the price was $395), a 7 Sisters inside a Sunburst and a Garfield's Monument with a curved appliqué that made a sort of Capitol dome shape in the alternating plane block. I didn't buy a thing except a couple of pieces of fabric and a set of zany butterfly potholders. I even found a great place for fried chicken, corn bread and fried green tomatoes on the way home. Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Re: Classic Patterns From: Gloria hanrahan <gloriaak.net> 

I dislike most classic quilt patterns. I'm going to keep quiet on that or the DH will want to know why we have container after container of them taking up space.

The quilts which draw my eye are quirky in colors or create a secondary pattern such as with a log cabin or tumbling blocks which create a 3-D effect. The colors are what interest me. I dislike repeating blocks, or quilts like Irish chains.

I do seem very drawn to the depression era quilts like Grandmother's Flower Garden or Double Wedding Ring, but only in the tradition prints. Newer versions leave me cold. But then, I collect polyester double knit in those very patterns. Go figure.

I can appreciate good workmanship, but I value imagination more. So that's what I buy. As far as what I have made, my first bed quilt was a Monkey Wrench for a friend's wedding and that was enough for me. I was ready to do something else after the second block. I'm much more a process quilter and am happier to end up with a pot holder and learn something new than an entire quilt of the same old, same old.

I can see how many women were more prolific before the days of rotary cutters. By the time I spread out all of that STUFF in a busy household with four kids, it's time to put it all back up. I haven't finished anything in several years and the few quilts I have completed, I'm not inclined to use them on the beds. I'd much rather have comforters which I can just throw in the wash. To fill my yen for quilts around the house, I buy tops on ebay and have them quilted. I don't feel guilty using those like I would the family quilts.

Now that I finally have my own space to putz around I'm making braided wool rugs. I see many women learning to knit while sitting on the sidelines of those soccer games. It won't be long before some hand piecing is picked up by those of us who can't handle two sharp pointed sticks at the same time.




Subject: Re: Classic quilt patterns From: "Marilyn Maddalena Withrow" 

Marcia, I think you've hit on something that would be fascinating to present to guilds. I do presentations on antique quilts, but don't go into the pattern meanings much, just normally dating the fabrics, naming the blocks and talking about care of the quilts. Any resources for quilt names that you can come up with, other than the standard reference books? Marilyn Maddalena Withrow Professional Quilt Appraiser, Judge, Historian, Designer and Lecturer "The Quilted Rooster" at Foots Creek Farms www.marilynquilts.com and www.footscreekfarms.com


Subject: Re: old classic quilt patterns From: "J. G. Row" 

> 1. What old quilt block pattern is your favorite? I'd have to say that Log Cabin is my favorite really old-time pattern. Of all the LC sets and variations, I really adore the 5-color sets. I also like Storm At Sea, which I don't think is that old -- perhaps less than 100 years -- but it is made up of elements seen in many older blocks?

> 2. How often do you see new quilts that are made from old classics? All the time, at every quilt show I go to. More of those than anything else. I think most of the quilts we see today are variations on old-time patterns. It takes a huge amount of imagination to put together any kind of design that no one else in the history of the world has ever done, but with just a change in scale, or a few colors, or a setting switcheroo, an old time design that has been made thousands upon thousands of times can become something entirely original and new. Even those who call themselves "art quilters" often use our classic block patterns in new ways.

> 3. If you make quilts, do you ever make a quilt from an old favorite? Haven't ever made any other kind -- but I don't think they look anything like the originals. Again, color choices, scale and set can make old patterns very contemporary, and our new cutting and sewing techniques permit taking those old standby patterns "outside the box." Just think of what Emiko Toda Loeb did with the Log Cabin block 10 or so years ago, and how some new 3-dimensional fabric folding techinques for blocks such as for the bow-tie block make them new and exciting again, and visually entirely different from quilts made 75 years ago in the same patterns.

> 4. Do you think that the intricacy of some of these old patterns are > proving too challenging for quilters? I don't think it is the challenge so much as the contemporary need for instant gratification that keeps many contemporary quilters from attempting the more intricate patterns. But, if folks today are supposed to be staying away from intricacy, how do we explain the popularity of the Dear Jane quilts? Those beginners who get through the first cutting and pieceing lessons often go on to more complicated patterns, even those with (arrrrgh) set-in seams.

About sampler quilts -- I don't think there is one quilt shop that doesn't have a sampler quilt class aimed at beginners at least once a year.

Judy, now in Flemington NJ aka The Ringoes Kid judygrowpatmedia.net


Subject: silk quilt batting and thread From: Gaelle Troude <gaelle.troudegmail.com>

I joined this list about a month ago and am amazed at the knowledge that is  passed around. I am not a quilt collector by any means (or lack of financia l means, actually), I am mainly a self-taught, novice quilter whose projects  have faded in the background of a busy life... instead of quilting, I mostl y read about it, and collect fabrics so that I may start quilting again some  day. I have always been interested in the history of quilts and am eager to  learn more. I was wondering about those silk quilts that were made during the Victoria n period. I have been unable to find out what kinds of thread and batting (if  any) were used. Were they cotton? If so, wouldn't the cotton damage the quilt top over time -- either by causing the fabric to fray at the sewing  lines, or by abrading the blocks from underneath? I was told that it was best to match thread type with fabric type so that the stronger type would  not end up damaging the weaker type over time. Was there such a thing as silk batting? Those Victorian quilts inspired me to try my hands at all-silk quilting,  and I would very much like my work to stand the test of time. For the time  being I am merely collecting silk scraps (mostly out of thrift store clothing) and would appreciate any input on that question. Thanks for sharing your expertise, Gaelle in Quebec, Canada


Subject: RE: silk quilt batting and thread From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" <mgmooneymoonware.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:29:18 -0700 X-Message-Number: 4

Good evening, QHLers - If you want your work to "stand the test of time", do NOT use silk at all. I am speaking from my experience as a textile conservator (over 25 years) with a specialty in quilts. The most damaged and "shattered to bits" quilts have been the Victorian silk "crazy quilts". Although called quilts, these really aren't: they usually don't have any interlining/batting; the pieced top and lining are usually tied with yarn/floss and aren't quilted in the traditional definition of the word; they are either hand or machine sewn usually with cotton thread (the cotton thread is in great condition physically but the pieces are usually shattering!); usually a large amount of decorative silk embroidery over the seams.

>>I was wondering about those silk quilts that were made during the Victorian period. I have been unable to find out what kinds of thread and batting (if any) were used. Were they cotton? If so, wouldn't the cotton damage the quilt top over time -- either by causing the fabric to fray at the sewing lines, or by abrading the blocks from underneath? I was told that it was best to match thread type with fabric type so that the stronger type would not end up damaging the weaker type over time. Was there such a thing as silk batting? Those Victorian quilts inspired me to try my hands at all-silk quilting, and I would very much like my work to stand the test of time. >>

Regards, Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Professional Associate, AIC mgmooneymoonware.net


Subject: Re: reproduction fabric question From: Judy Kelius 

I can find woven plaids that don't look that different from antique ones in many stores, not sold as repros but they will work. But it seems that there have been few reproductions of antique printed plaids and checks, polka dots, simple stripes, and other geometric prints - they may not be the ones that "pop out" at you when you look at a quilt but are definitely essential when you want to reproduce an antique quilt. I suggest you look more at the fabrics not marketed as reproductions . . . you may find what you are looking for there. Go for the "look," not an exact match to the old fabric. Good luck! I too love the Lady of the Lake. - Judy --_3436421.ALT--


Subject: Re: qhl digest: September 12, 2005 From: "Virginia Berger" <cifbanetins.net>

I am a quilter but I'm pretty slow about getting things done and have a serious backlog of my own projects. This top is just isn't a priority for me to quilt myself and I know these church ladies do a good job. However, they have had bad experiences with some cotton batts and I haven't tried some of the newer products out there so figured this group would be a good source for info!

Thanks to all for your advice about cotton batting.

Virginia in Iowa


Subject: RE: Classic patterns (long) From: "Barbara Vlack" <cptvdeosbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:43:04 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8

1. What old quilt block pattern is your favorite? My all time favorite: Pickle Dish. I seem to have a magnetic pull or radar for quilts made with this pattern. I think that the attraction has something to do with triangles on a curve, because I have an equal pull of my attention for New York Beauty (and all its aliases).

2. How often do you see new quilts from old classics? More often now. I'm thinking "new quilts" meaning "new ideas" from old classics.

I credit Karen Stone for bringing New York Beauty into renewed popularity. Before she showed us how to piece the intricately pieced arcs on a foundation, there were very few NYBs in quilt shows. But NOW, there is hardly any show, local or national, that doesn't include at least one NYB! Karen also showed us how to plan a scrapbag quilt so it coordinated with a better/pleasing/artistic look than the "just any ol' scrap will do" look.

I think foundation piecing has taken us into the territory of piecing the complex blocks with a great deal more ease and accuracy.

I am biased about designing with a computer, because I do think that the computer is helping us make possible more innovative designing with traditional blocks. I call this "innovative traditional," which I define as using old classic blocks and setting them in new ways. I greatly advocate setting blocks ANY WAY BUT straight with sashing. The only way those quilts grab me now is if they are colored with smashing palettes or unusual fabrics or the sashing is very different. Highlighting secondary designs when setting the traditional blocks is very attractive to me. Skewing a square block into a rectangle or elongated diamond is a GREAT way to take the classic block into new territory. For example, I demonstrate this idea with EQ5 software by taking a Bear's Paw block through its paces. The biggest wow comes when I set, with just a few clicks, the Bear's Paw into a Baby Blocks setting without any regard for 3D coloring. Skewing the block to 60-degree diamonds set as Baby Blocks creates a whole new look. The Bear's Paw block is lost and snowflakes that look rather like a Scandinavian ski sweater appear.

The annual contest offered by MAQS (New Quilts from Old Favorites) has helped a lot to get many quilters to think outside the "old classic" box. I love it.

3. If you make quilts, do you ever make a quilt from an old favorite? Yep. I hand pieced a queen size Grandmother's Flower Garden (without paper foundations --- I did it without any marking of seams, just like they did it in the 30s) as my memorial for 9/11. My innovative part is an inside border of a different hexagon flower configuration that suggests Forget-Me-Nots and an outside border of a straight pieced white picket fence that was inspired by traditional mourning quilts - the fence around the graveyard. My "graveyard" is full of beautiful flowers and it's called, "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" (So far, though, I've continued with a great tradition of the 30s and GFG quilts --- it's still unfinished! --- only three more sides of the outside border and the quilting to go).

I have a personal campaign to complete quilt tops and pieces from the 30s that I've collected. I am mixing and matching blocks into collages or medallion quilts with several borders. I am mixing vintage with reproduction fabrics reminiscent of the 30s. I am true to mixing the lovely and cute calico reproductions with some of the vintage "uglies," which I think offer a wonderful value and textural contrast next to each other that is lacking if only reproduction 30s fabrics are used. However, I think that some of the newer repro fabric lines are starting to offer more than just a medium value cute print and a few of what I (fondly) call uglies are coming around.

I'm machine quilting some of these quilts. One Double Irish Chain quilt I have from the 30s started as just a top with 3/4" squares hand pieced! I used my embroidery machine and embroidered lines from "Prosperity Is Just Around the Corner," - a 30s song I found on the Internet! - in each of the open squares. I have a Trip Around the World top from the 30s that I machine quilted using the Benartex quilting design fabric on the back. That looks fabulous! I took the old stuff and finished it with new technology --- and I don't feel guilty.

I am also hand appliquéing a kit quilt from the 30s. It has poppies with centers of an awful yellow raggy fabric that I am replacing with black. Just changing to the black centers is taking that quilt from ho-hum to smashing.

4. Do you think that the intricacy of some of these old patterns [is] proving too challenging for quilters? No, I don't. I think Jinny Beyer first took us into the realm of Mariner's Compasses. Hers were hand pieced and we followed. Now Judy Mathieson is showing us how to use foundations to piece these patterns more accurately, and we're with her. I already mentioned what Karen Stone has offered. Judy Niemeyer is doing more of this as well. Foundation piecing has made many of the intricate old patterns more approachable and doable.

Elly Sienkiewicz has made some of the intricate traditional appliqué patterns more accessible. Look what she has done for Baltimore Album quilts!

And look at what Diane Gaudynski has done for intricate feather quilting by machine!

The old classics are still around but wearing new clothes, yet they continue to hold their own next to the contemporary designs.

Barb Vlack cptvdeosbcglobal.net


Subject: RE: Katrina From: "Barbara Vlack" <cptvdeosbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:43:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

I've just learned that my older son, who used to work in the Chicago office of FEMA, is expecting to be deployed into one of the hurricane areas, though he doesn't know yet whether he will be in Katrina or Ophelia territory. He doesn't work for FEMA any more but was working on paperwork for eligibility for temporary deployment when FEMA needed backup, especially in the northwest region, where my son now lives. This was before Katrina. Now he has been told he will probably be deployed as soon as next week and details are in process. He's excited and hoping to be involved with the "Big One."

In the wake of all this, I think it's sad that there is an order from FEMA that their employees NOT wear any identifying clothing that connects them with that agency. It's the leaders that have taken down the entire agency at a time when people should be celebrating their involvement. Their mantra should echo Mighty Mouse with, "Here I come to save the day!" and the wind has been knocked out of their sails by inefficient management. This isn't just a mother speaking.

Gail, I think that ambulance service guy you wrote about should be up for the Congressional Medal of Honor. What's his name and why isn't he highlighted on TV (maybe because he's too busy helping people)? Before I got to the end of your account, I was thinking about how that story could have blown up if he had been arrested for violating police orders. Yikes. Wasn't Jesus arrested for something similar - helping people when no one else would and breaking the Sabbath law in order to do it? And we're still talking about that!

Barb Vlack cptvdeosbcglobal.net


Subject: Re: qhl digest: September 12, 2005 From: Kaytripletaol.com Date:

In a message dated 9/12/05 11:12:19 PM Central Daylight Time, qhllyris.quiltropolis.com writes:

> Pat, it's not a surprise that there would be rumors about the > Houston show being canceled going around at events such as Martha's > Quilting Academy. That probably came because the Houston mayor > announced, when they were starting to accept evacuees to the > Astrodome and the Convention Center, that all events would be > canceled for several months. Karey Bresenhan, the director of > Market and IQF, must have done some pretty powerful lobbying in > order to come back and say that the Houston show WILL GO ON.

While it is true Karey is known politically (she was literally a politician prior to getting involved in the quilt world) it is probably more true that Houston needs the $ that conventions bring in. It is my understanding that both the Astrodome and GRB Convention Center (where the quilt show always is) will have completed their duties to the evacuees this week. There certainly wouldn't be any reason to cancel a convention 6 weeks from now.

Only about 4000 people were left late last week, as most have found apartments or places to stay with relatives. The city of Houston has not received any money for the contributions that they have made last I heard. At the beginning, I believe that the mayor thought FEMA might pay them to house the folks who came here rather than set up FEMA's own tent cities and trailers like they have done with previous serious storms. Folks could have stayed in the Astrodome longer if it had been needed, as the building is seldom used. Evacuees from the convention center could have been moved to the Astrodome, as there is plenty of space now. The downtown hotels, restaurants, etc. are certainly hoping for a return to normalcy as quickly as possible, and now the city has an even bigger need for the tax revenue a convention generates. And, while it is a minor element, the folks who were still left after 2 weeks were not always ideal visitors to our city. They are being given housing in Houston where they can start a normal life if they wish to. They have enough money from FEMA to live for 3 months. There are help wanted signs all over, mostly minimum wage or heavy lifting jobs, but those who are able can work if they chose to.

So, no worries about the quilt show. See you there!

Kay Triplett in hot, humid Houston


Subject: Redbird Quilt From: Ginny Crosthwait <ginnymarieearthlink.net>

Has anyone ever seen a quilt like this? I thought it was made from a kit, but I wonder if anyone knows the designer or anything about it. Would you say 1930s?





Subject: Re: More on Kitchener, ON From: Barb Garrett 

Gail Ingram wrote:

>How interesting, Jennifer. Did the original name suggest a German >settlement, or was it just honorific, > Hi Gail -

Historically, there is a large PA German Mennonite settling of the area around Kitchener. Below are 2 short bits of information that tell the story better than I could. Beware, it may be more information than you wanted <grin>.

Barb in Southeastern PA

# 1 -- Attracted by available, inexpensive land, as well as the prospect of living under British rule, the first few Swiss Mennonite (German speaking) families left Pennsylvania shortly after the U.S. War for Independence in 1776. Following what came to be known as the "Trail of the Conestoga", they trekked in covered wagons to settle in the Niagara Peninsula and along the Grand River of what is now Ontario. From 1785- 1825 more Mennonites from Pennsylvania crossed the Niagara River. Many settled in Waterloo County, where Benjamin Eby founded Ebytown (present-day Kitchener) in 1807. During this 40-year period about 2,000 people came to Ontario from the United States.

# 2 -- What's In A Name? Berlin to Kitchener --

Those who live in, or have the chance to visit, Kitchener, Ontario will be very familiar with the area's rich German culture and heritage. The original settlers of the region were of an agrarian, pacificist Mennonite background. By the eve of the First World War, Berlin, Ontario -- dubbed "the German Capital of Canada" -- boasted myriad German-language societies, German language instruction in schools, and a German-language newspaper. As the Great War continued, the loyalty of German-Canadians became more and more suspect. In August 1914, the bronze bust of Kaiser Wilhelm, proudly displayed in Victoria Park, was removed and thrown into the lake. Open mistrust of enemy aliens in the city led to the suspension of German-language instruction in schools.

In 1916, the Berlin Board of Trade made a suggestion that polarized the citizens of the city. The Board of Trade argued that the name Berlin hurt business and gave the impression that its citizens were sympathizers of the enemy cause in Europe. It was suggested that the act of changing the name of the city would be a tangible symbol of its citizens' patriotism and would boost the city's profile across the Dominion. Many Berliners supported maintaining the name of the city, as it reflected a proud tradition of growth and prosperity for German, and non-German, Canadians alike. Those citizens who supported the status quo were immediately perceived, by those who wanted change, as being unpatriotic and sympathizers with the enemy. Violence, riots and intimidation, often instigated by imperialistic members of the 118th Battalion, were not uncommon in the months leading up to the May 1916 referendum on the issue.

A majority of Berliners did chose to opt for a new name and by early summer the search for a new city moniker was on. A special committee was set-up by the city council with the express purpose to suggest possible names. On September 1, 1916, the name of Kitchener was officially adopted after the late Lord Kitchener.

Horatio Kitchener was appointed Secretary for War by the British Prime Minister, Herbert Asquith, at the beginning of the Great War. His image, beckoning recruits with an outward stare and finger pointed, was immortalized on Alfred Leete's dramatic poster "Britons Want You!" Kitchener had drowned earlier in 1916, when the ship he was travelling on hit a mine near the Orkney Islands. It would be next to impossible for citizens of the new Kitchener to be considered unpatriotic.

Nonetheless, some Canadians did not readily adopt the new name for Berlin. The Post Office had to issue memoranda, reminding correspondents that there was no city in Ontario named Berlin. The issue was so contentious that several Canadian municipalities petitioned the Dominion Government to force those who did not comply to use the name Kitchener. Although ludicrous to modern eyes, the whole issue of a name for Berlin highlights the effects that fear, hatred and nationalism can have upon a society in the face of war.


Subject: RE: silk quilt batting and thread From: <chrisajetlink.net>

Hi Meg-

Are you also recommending that we do not use modern day silk fabrics in  quilts? I completely agree with your assessment of weighted silks in the  Victorian times and I recently heard that weighting is back!! Also that  it is not possible to tell by looking at the bolt, so buyer beware. Are  you referring to this? Was it China that was doing the weighting today?

Erika Carter spoke at our guild last week and she is working exclusively  in silk organza now. She dyes the fabrics first and appliquE9s them  onto silk organza. Would this version of the silk also be prone to  deterioration?


Kim Wulfert www.antiquequiltdating.com

Good evening, QHLers - If you want your work to "stand the test of  time", do NOT use silk at all. I am speaking from my experience as a textile conservator (over 25 years) with a specialty in quilts. The most damaged  and "shattered to bits" quilts have been the Victorian silk "crazy quilts".



Subject: Re: reproduction fabric question From: 

Harriet Hargrave made some great polka dots in her collections over  time. More recently Pat Nichol's newest line included printed plaids  that were tiny. I just used the pink one in a 30 quilt made with the  super large flour sack prints from Darlene H ?? and it looked great even  though Pat's are made to represent the 1840s. Polka dots have some back  big time in other than reproductions lines, so I' m not sure about the  colorways, but if you look in Hancock's of Paducah's newest catalogue or  online you'll see this is so.

I think Judy K.'s suggestion is right on. I have seen glorious printed  plaids in fondue style and otherwise made by Marcus Bros.,not Judy R.,  but another designer on staff, but this was awhile ago. Fabrics from the  Calico and Chintz book of Patricia Smith's collection, were great ones  in there too, with a good variety of printed plaids in large scale with  some other types of motifs on them as well.

I don't think you will find many or any large scale, wavy as you say,  pink plaids, as pink wasn't the color they were made in using the steam  process and mineral dyes that were used to make shaded (ombre,  fondue)prints, which also facilitated making these particular printed  plaids easily and affordably in the second quarter of the 19th century.

Some of these old lines are still on bolts in shops. you might even  check with the online sources like vintage&vogue and  reproductionfabrics. This is the only good thing about reproduction  fabrics not being that popular with quilters- you an often find old ones  when you need them.

Have fun looking!

Kim Wulfert www.antiquequiltdating.com


Subject: repro fab designers From: <chrisajetlink.net> 


To give credit to the designers that give us these great early 19th  century reproduction fabrics- here are the names of those I mentioned in  the earlier email-

Marcus Bros. - 2000ish printed plaid and pillar print line by Karen  Jarrar

Calico & Chintz- Bonnie Benn Stratton, Timeless Treasures printed plaid  with flowers and a less plaid-like look

Marcus Bros. - Laura Wagner, printed ombre with madder print as thinner  lines

Rose, a very dark version of pink, was made in that era, which might  work for you.

I assure you there are others, but these are especially good  reproductions and they were handy to reach in my stacks! Many printed  plaids have been made from the post CW era too. They are smaller in  scale and not as likely to be wavy or shaded in their appearance.

Hope this info helps you find the old lines.

Kim Wulfert www.antiquequiltdating.com


Subject: Re: Redbird Quilt From: "Lucinda Cawley" 

I saw a quilt just like that a year or so ago in an antique shop here on the Eastern Shore. I thought that one was 1930s. Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Kitchener, Ontario & traditional quilt patterns From: 

I mentioned WW2 Red Cross quilts last week. The stories keep turning up, and shortly after that post I was contacted by the friend of a lady in her 70s who is worrying where 'her' RC quilt will end up in the future. . . Its label declares it to come from Kitchener, Canada - if there's anyone who knows the place I'd love to hear from you). --------------------- Hello, all. I have been lurking for some time but a couple of recent threads have pulled me in!

Regarding Kitchener, Ontario -- As others have noted, Kitchener is in south/central Ontario, Canada. It's about an hour west of Toronto (where I was born and raised). Many local history accounts indicate it was formed in the early 1830s by a Mennonite who moved to the area from Pennsylvania. It was originally called Berlin; the name was changed in 1916 for obvious political reasons.

The town has a very large German population, and in fact, plays host to the one of the largest Oktoberfest celebrations in the world each year.

Of more interest to quilters, the area (Waterloo County, which remains quite rural, although there are a lot more bedroom communities in the last 20 years) is home to a large community of Mennonites. An annual Mennonite Relief Quilt Auction is a huge event and fundraiser.

I went to university at the University of Waterloo (Waterloo and Kitchener are two towns that blend right into each other) and first fell in love with quilts when visiting St. Jacobs in Waterloo County. Lots of Amish quilts and my very first quilt (vs. fabric) shop! Still a wonderful little town to visit.

With fabric, cardboard templates, and scissors in hand (oh, yeah, and a sewing machine!), I made my first quilt in the mid-80s -- Gentleman's Fancy or Goose in the Pond. (Man, was I happy when I discovered strip piecing -- putting those 1" squares together into nine-patches was not something I wanted to repeat!) Took me four years to finish hand-quilting. The quilt still makes me happy.

So, I LOVE the traditional patterns . . . and am still surprised when other quilters don't respond to the old quilts and fabrics.

Favorite pattern -- that would be too hard. Although as I work on categorizing the hundreds of quilt and block patterns I have on my computer certain types of quilts keep cropping up -- block patterns that form secondary geometric patterns when put together, and pretty much anything with flying geese!

Elaine Kelly Reston, VA


Subject: Re: cotton batting From: "Velia Lauerman" <velialivehotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:25:55 -0400 X-Message-Number: 20

Dear Carol, Which wool is the one you have used? Is it from Quilters Dream ? I want to put up a top with the wool batting from Hobbs for the Winter. Presently I am quilting with Hobbs cotton on a Civil War pattern much like Texas Rose or Steeplechase design found in Glorious Quilts book on the clamps frame. (drafted the design from an old Civil War quilt with scraps ...Quilted a little one with reproduction civil war fabrics that won a little ribbon..time to make a big top of the design) Have a Quilters dream on the lap basted Grandmothers Garden to take along.Busy fingers are happy fingers. Velia


Subject: Re: qhl digest: September 12, 2005 From: "Velia Lauerman" <velialivehotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:54:05 -0400 X-Message-Number: 21

Please forgive my blunt comment on your quilting it yourself Virginia. As in scratching on a blackboard with fingernails, I have met sew many so called quilters that refer to themselves as Quilters and are designers or make tops to send out to be quilted. Would like to see more reference to tops, designs, patterns, and other necessary steps that go into creating a bed cover addressed on quilt shows and quilt groups. The average layperson believes that a quilt top is the rest of the story. As we know "It isn't a quilt until it is QUILTED. Velia


Subject: RE: silk quilt batting and thread From: "Alan Kelchner"But But But ........<g> Don't the silks from Victorian times shred from the dying process (which is illegal to do now), not because silk is too delicate?


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist


Subject: RE: silk quilt batting and thread From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" 

Good evening, QHLers - I love the typo, Alan! Sorta appropriate for silk. It's actually a combination of factors: fibre inherent vice (the presence of an extremely light sensitive amino acid, tyrosine); mordanting inherent vice (the use of tin and iron); some dyes also "tenderize" the fibres they are applied to; greedy manufacturer who overloaded the silks with silk and iron to increase the weight of the fabric (cheaper than using more fibre). And you haven't even worn it yet, slept under it yet, draped it over the piano in the formal parlour yet. <g>


Subject: RE: silk quilt batting and thread From: Becky Gockel <majormaamsbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:26:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 2

I found some info about silk in a text book that I had in college; Kadolf et al "Textiles" Seventh Edition, Macmillian Publishing, New York. There is a lot of info like "it contains 15 amino acids in polypeptide chains" but I gleaned some info that might be interesting to this discussion:

"Silk is on of the strongest natural fibers,... It may lose up to 20 percent of its strength when wet...it is not as elastic as wool." pg. 67

"Silk can be damaged and yellowed by stong soaps or detergent and high temperatures... however, bleaches of hydrogen peroxide and sodium perborate are safe to use if the directions are followed carefully....silk is weakenend and yellowed by exposure to sunlight... silk my be attacked by insects... Wighted silks* deteriorate even under good storage conditions and are especially likely to break at the folds. Historic items often exhibit a condition known as "shattered silk", in which the weighted silk is disintegrating."...pg. 68

*Weighting is the treatment of silk with metallic salts to increase the weight, hand and dye affinity of the fabric; may result in accelerated degradation of the silk....pg 399

Becky in the high desert of California


Subject: Questions:Answers / Quilt Pattern Favorites From: catzrockisland.com Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:46:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 3

>> 1. What old quilt block pattern is your favorite? I have three favorites really. Log Cabin - just about the most versatile block in the world - color possibilities - can easily be hand or machine done - uses small scraps very efficeietnly etc etc. I also love Pickle Dish and Double Wedding Rings... how can you NOT love them ?! >> 2. How often do you see new quilts that are made from old classics? Every day almost,at every show and in every quilting friend's collection. - it's why they are classics ! >> 3. If you make quilts, do you ever make a quilt from an old favorite? Yes, I have made at least one of each of my favorites - I guess, for me, that's WHY they have become my favorites --- They generally are the patterns that I keep going back to - trying to make them in an updated way .. >> 4. Do you think that the intricacy of some of these old patterns are >> proving too challenging for quilters? I think that is true for some perhaps. My friend's used to kid me because almost all of my quilts had some sort of a circle in them ... we did a group project and I required all of my friend's to make rings - they were none too happy - but after they did it most agreed that it was not as hard as they had anticipated. I too did a Dear Jane quilt - it was my real introduction to doing fine applique - and yes, I did gain more confidence from this project and yes, I did move on to more complicated applique projects from there. I think that there is an emphasis in our society for quicker, faster hurry-up methods for making quilts. That's not where I want to be anymore - and it's not what I admire in vintage quilts.

It would be fun to know if there ends up being a "tally" to these questions ! Cheers, Marie Johansen


Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Keep the Fabric Up From: "Andi"

My DH emailed me this brief op-ed article about the Smithsonian. To forward or email the link, you must register with the New York Times, which I am not inclined to do and did not wish to inflict on any list member. The gist is: Congress has so perennially underfunded maintenance of the Smithsonian, our national treasures may be at risk. Perhaps the underlined link from my husband's email to me will take you directly to the article. I'm hoping those who live in proximity to Washington can elaborate or enlighten us about this issue.

Andi in Keota, Iowa


Subject: signature quilt index From: "Marcia Kaylakie"

Will the person who was talking about the signature quilt index or  database contact me please ASAP. I need to obtain some updated  information about it. Thanks, Marcia Kaylakie Marcia Kaylakie, AQS Certified Appraiser


Subject: Re: cotton batting From: CAROL GODREAU <imaquilter2sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1

Velia, J.T.Trading, based in Connecticut carries the wool I use. Jennifer is the owner. I have added the web page and you might want to email her any questions you might have. I really enjoy using her product. Very easy needling and the quilt feels so soft and light yet is so warm when finished.

I'm certain their are other wools on the market but I have not used them. Perhaps the quilt history list people will have more info to share with you.

Your quilts sound marvelous. Happy Quilting!




Subject: WWII Original Kitchener, Ontario posting From: "Judy Lyons" <judy.lyonssympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:05:56 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

I can't seem to find the origial posting about the quilt from Kitchener, Ontario Canada I live very close to the area, and work the local quilt show. If I can be of help to whoever is looking for information, please contact me privately Judy Lyons AQS Certified Canadian Quilt Appraiser


Subject: Attn: to attendees of the New England Regional Quilt Day at the Wenham Museum From: "suereich" <suereichcharter.net>

We are planning next year's Regional event and we are updating our list.  Unfortunately, due to a computer glitch, we lost our addresses and are  attempting to reconfigure the list. If you are or know the following attendees could you please email me  privately with addresses, phone and email. 

Diana Jepson Martha Grey Sandra Keller Ann Penn Inid Sackin Reddick Debbie Suits Pamela Tomik and Tomick Barbara Bell

Many thanks, sue reich ------_NextPart_000_0066_01C5BA13.98F8E300--


Subject: Quilt batting From: "Teddy Pruett" <aprayzerhotmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:20:11 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Hi all - do any of you have access to old Sears or Wards catalogs from the turn of the century, teens, 20's, 30's, 40's? I own a couple from the 1950's. I want to know the descriptions and weights of the various types of batting offered for sale. I often tell my appraisal clients that you could buy good, better, best, really great, awful, not so awful, etc.....and I would really like to verify my info.

Because you are such a bright, capable group, I am sure someone may have some websites or other places I might search. I appreciate any help.

Teddy Pruett


Subject: Quilters make the Houston Press Underground Newspaper From:

If you are easily offended by four letter words, do not read this article in the Houston underground newspaper. This paper is well respected by many, and has won some prestigious national journalism awards. However, they have their own standards and political views which are not always in keeping with the decorum expected of newspapers afraid of offending advertisers. The article teaser made the front cover saying "Fear the Quilters, A powerful group almost rises up." The gist of the article is that there would be he** to pay if the quilters didn't get to have their convention.


Kay Triplett in still hot, humid Houston


Subject: All-American Quilt - Newspaper Series Quilt From: "Louise" <ltiemannstny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:03:34 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

Hello, does anyone know about the All-American Series quilt that was published in The Record (California ?) from November 1932 to March 1933. There are 31 motifs that were printed every Tuesday and Friday in the newspaper. If anyone has some info, could you please send off list? Thanks, Louise ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Confederate Stance? From: "Leah Zieber" 

Hi all, Though my question is not quilt related - I did come across the  issue while looking for antique quilts in Orange Circle (Orange County,  California) and thought it may qualify for my favorite quilt history  list. So here goes... while shopping, I came across some daguerreotypes  that showed men from the Civil War era. There were several different  dags that showed men sitting or standing (didn't seem to make a  difference) and all were grasping their left lapel. A note by the dag  collector mentioned the "grasp of the left lapel showed Confederate  sympathies" or "note the Rebel stance." 

I was just wondering if anyone could clarify this - have not heard of it  before. I searched the internet for more information - google and such  - and have found that the Confederates did wear pins on the left lapel  but could find no mention of how holding the left lapel indicated  sympathies with the South.

Appreciate clarity on this issue.

Leah Zieber Temecula California ------_NextPart_000_0023_01C5BA42.E9581940--


Subject: Mardi Gras colors From: Debby Kratovil <kratovilhis.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:38:32 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

My thanks to Andi on this list for mentioning the sewing of basic quilts using the Mardi Gras colors of purple (justice), green (faith) and gold (power). I never knew of them. Just that morning I had been impressed to respond to an article in the AJC (here in Atlanta) about a displaced family taken in by neighbors of mine. Our section of Atlanta was devastated by a tornado 7 years ago ( 2 years before my time) which wiped out large sections of Atlanta/Dunwoody. A family who had to rebuild (it took 20 months) found a N.O. family and brought them in. I saw four faces of a family who are still shell shocked.

I had been mulling around how many children's quilts to make to give to kids here in Atlanta when I realized that I could dig around in my closets for 4 large quilts for this family. (I make samples for our magazines and I knew I could come up with something). I found two for the teen girls, one very large house sampler for the mom (it was symbolic, to me, that she WILL live in her own home again in a neighborhood) and then the fourth one I pulled out contained the colors of Mardi Gras. I gasped! This was providential and I began to get really excited. It was large stars using the purple, green and gold and it was going to be for the dad, Andre. And, believe it or not, I had a duplicate of the magazine issue in which it appeared. I took the quilts to the family on Wednesday night and it was so gratifying to me to give them something personal. Andre was ecstatic and swore he would frame the quilt (it's 60" square) and the magazine. I insisted he use it for a lap quilt when he watched tv in his new home! These were quilts to be used. Lorena swore she would sleep under hers that night (it was bed sized).

Anyway, thanks for sharing about the colors. And thanks also to the person who insisted we sign these quilts with our names, etc. This event is one of the real BIGGIES of our nation's history and someday someone will do quilt searches for the tens of thousands of quilts donated by regular people like us in an attempt to comfort those who lost so much! Debby (who didn't even make a dent in the stash of quilts in her closets) -- Debby (with a "y" and not "ie") Kratovil Quilt Workshops & Programs http://www.quilterbydesign.com


Subject: redbird quilt From: "Rosie Werner" <rwernerrconnect.com> 

I looked through all 20 of my notebooks on quilt kits and did not find  anything like the red bird. Why do you think it was a kit? Are there  stamped lines visible? I have documented over a thousand kits, and just  when I begin to think that there aren't any more to find, someone finds  one I haven't seen. Rosie from Minnesota ------_NextPart_000_0016_01C5BA97.600F4A50--


Subject: Quilts, Caring People and a Good Cause From: "Karen Musgrave" <karenmusgravesbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:54:10 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

I wanted to let everyone on this wonderful list know of this exciting opportunity. You can't beat the powerful combination of quilts, caring people and a good cause!

On September 18, The Alliance for American Quilts will launch a series of ongoing weekly auctions on eBay. Items to be auctioned have been donated by our wonderful board members. These auctions will give you an opportunity not only to purchase great things but also to support The Alliance's efforts to document, preserve and share our great quilt heritage. What a deal!

100% of the final sale price benefits The Alliance for American Quilts and is backed by Mission Fish! We guarantee everything being auctioned. Our condition listings are on our About Me page. Go to www.eBay.com and search for "AllianceQuilts" to see all the items available. (You have to wait until the auctions begin.)

The FIRST auction begins at 10:00 pm PDT on Sunday September 18 and ends on Sunday September 25 at 10:00 pm PDT. This auction will include stunning quilts, vintage fabric from the 1880's, and out-of-print books that document America's love affair with quilts. (You can also view two of the quilts we will have for purchase on our acution page at www.centerforthequilt.org/auction.php.)

Here are some highlights from our opening auction:

* An exceptional early American (1835-40) Tumbling Stars quilt with floral border and tape binding will delight its new owner. This hand quilted 110 x 98 inch quilt is a heart stopper. (Shown at www.centerforthequilt.org/auction.php I will admit I wanted to keep this one a secret.)

* "Quilts: A Living Tradition" by Robert Shaw is available in its original shrink wrap! This out-of-print book, published in 1995, has a 5-star rating on Amazon.com.

* "Kaleidoscopic Tidbit" signed and dated 1993 by Paula Nadelstern. Hand quilted. Here is your chance to acquire a quilt made by this magical contemporary quiltmaker. Paula has been able to combine the symmetry and surprise of a kaleidoscope with her quiltmaking talents to create breathtakingly beautiful quilts. This example of her technique is well illustrated by the complexity of the design and attention to every detail in this miniature quilt, a true blending of art and quiltmaking.

* "Jackie O Auction" by RIVA is a remarkable quilt by former quilt artist Ruth Reynolds. Ruth is well known in the quilt world for her hilarious cartoon character RIVA from the RIVA Series. This quilt brings RIVA to the auction of Jackie's pearls with the expected result and humorous remarks. This signed quilt was also featured in the now out-of-print book "RIVA" by Reynolds.

Our members will be receiving advance notice of items that will be up for auction. To learn more about membership, go to http://www.centerforthequilt.org/membership/.

Support The Alliance's efforts by purchasing something from our online eBay auction. Spread the word! Help this growing organization tell more people the story of quilts.

Keep the stories alive!

Karen Musgrave


Subject: Re: Quilt batting From: Carolyn K Ducey <cduceyunlnotes.unl.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:21:47 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6

Hi Teddy,

The University of Nebraska-Lincoln Library has a number of Sears and Wards catalogs in the American Quilt Study Group Research Library. Many are housed in Special Collections, which means that they won't be available for loan - they need to be used on site - but some might be available through interlibrary loan. I believe you can access the information by going to the library website: http://iris.unl.edu/



Hi all - do any of you have access to old Sears or Wards catalogs from the turn of the century, teens, 20's, 30's, 40's? I own a couple from the 1950's. I want to know the descriptions and weights of the various types of batting offered for sale. I often tell my appraisal clients that you could

buy good, better, best, really great, awful, not so awful, etc.....and I would really like to verify my info.

Because you are such a bright, capable group, I am sure someone may have some websites or other places I might search. I appreciate any help.

Teddy Pruett


Subject: Re: redbird quilt From: Barbara Burnham <barbaraburnhamyahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 8bit

A stamped design could also be an iron-on pattern sold in newspapers and catalogs for redwork or applique, such as Laura Wheeler, Alice Brooks, etc.

Rosie Werner <rwernerrconnect.com> wrote:I looked through all 20 of my notebooks on quilt kits and did not find anything like the red bird. Why do you think it was a kit? Are there stamped lines visible? I have documented over a thousand kits, and just when I begin to think that there aren't any more to find, someone finds one I haven't seen. Rosie from Minnesota


Subject: Notes on Wool Batting From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmvyahoo.com> 

Recalling the discussion over the last few weeks regarding battings. Thought I would share some information about wool battings that I have discovered over the last year.

I have 2 Cheviot sheep and last spring my 2 sheep and the flock of 20 they came from were sheared. I bought the wool fleeces & had half of the 105 lbs. processed at Zeilinger Woolen Mill in Frankenmuth, Michigan http://www.zwool.com/. They are a family owned mill (one of several around the U.S. that process raw wool -unwashed- and are very good at answering questions. The wool quilt battings and wool comforter battings came a few weeks ago and they are lovely.

Last week my Amish friends and I quilted a large wall quilt with the wool batting. We all agreed that the wool was wonderful to quilt on. It is buoyant or springy like the polyester battings but has some weight to it like the cotton battings. The wool is not quite as heavy as some of the Hobbs or Warm & Natural or other cotton battings out there. But the wool battings have enough weight to them to drape nicely. The wool battings needled very easily but honestly I think poly batts are softer to needle through--we had no complaints about quilting on the wool.

There are a lot of advantages for using wool, natural fibers keep you warm in winter & some people I know use them in the summer too. The disadvantages seem to come from washing the wool batts differently from what we are used to doing for cotton or polyester battings we can just throw in the washer. Wool battings cannot be washed in a washer.....the agitation causes the wool to curl up and pull against the stitching. Wool battings cannot be washed in hot water.....the hot temperatures also cause curling. The wool battings should not be "wrung out" by hand either...also promotes twisting or curling of threads. Wool battings cannot be dried in automatic dryers.....the heat causes them to curl or shrink.

The recommended way to launder quilts or comforters with wool battings is to air them frequently to help keep them clean & if and when they must be washed, they need to be spot cleaned or washed by hand in a clean bathtub with cool or tepid water and a mild liquid cleanser. The quilt can then be drained of excess water by opening the drain & letting the water drain out for a hour or so & leaving the quilt in the tub. I like to hand wash the quilts (with or without wool batting) in the tub, let the excess water drain off, and them wrap them in a large, clean blanket to absorb off more excess water. Then they can be hung to dry. I usually drape a sheet over the metal railing of my upstairs and drape the quilt over it to dry overnight. If it isn't completely dry, it is draped over a bed & turned a couple of times. I don't always hang anything considered a delicate textile out in the sun unless it is covered by a sheet for protection against birds, etc. --just a personal preference. After washing many quilts in the tub, it is my preferred method of cleaning because it doesn't stress the fibers (but it is not much fun when you have 3 cracked ribs!).

As I asked questions of people in the woolen mills, I discovered that the little Cheviot sheep we have can produce up to 10-12 lbs. of wool each year if they are only sheared once a year. Their fleeces have hairs that are 4-8 inches long and the longer hairs are excellent for all types of fiber processing: yarn, weaving, quilt & comforter battings. It takes about 1.5 lbs. of raw, unwashed wool to process into a wool quilt batting and about 2.5 lbs of raw wool to process into a comforter batting which is usually thicker. Some woolen mills, like Zeilinger's, will cover the comforter batting with cheesecloth and tie-knot the layers to minimize shifting. A thinner quilt batt when quilted also minimizes shifting. Depending on where you go, it costs about $4.75 to $7.75 per pound to process raw wool into battings or other useful fiber forms. It was really a treat to hear people at the woolen mill "ooh and aah" over the fleeces produced from the Cheviot sheep. They grew very nice fleeces for the mill to process.

There is a helpful discussion on the internet http://www.bellaonline.com/ArticlesP/art10201.asp by Kim Noblin (quilting editor of BellaOnline) that is very interesting.

I think I'm going to like be a Cheviot sheep herder----quilt baaaattings are a nice product!

Best to you all from NW Ohio where it finally cooled off--Connie Ark


Subject: favored blocks, batting for silks, etc From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquiltsyahoo.com>

The Log Cabin format wins hand down; I don't make 'em, but I sure love to buy 'em. Who knows exactly how many variations there are among American quilts of the late 19th century.-- there's the Barn Raising, Light and Dark, Straight Furrow, Courthouse Steps variations with which we are all familiar. Then there's the rarely seen Church Windows, using a block with three sides, not four. Occasionally a fresh, original unnamed variation surfaces that makes the seach for Log Cabin varirations so challenging. And that's just in the U.S. Look back through old Quilt Engagement Calendars to see what contemporary Japanese quiltmakers have done with the Log Cabin format -- it's mind-boggling, and some are even reversible!! The Log Cabin pattern also was in use in Scandinavia in the 19th century, and probably migrated here and underwent mouch experimentation to produce new variations as the pattern crossed the U.S.

In 19th century silk crazy quilts and other silks, I have found battings that are wool, spun so fine and gossamer that the quilt feels light as a feather; now what's the source for that airy batting?

I have had other silk quilts with no batting; because the cotton squares on which the quilt was foundation pieced sufficed. Some silk hexagonal mosaic quilts, and "string" pieced silk quilts, have retained inside for added body the paper templates on which they were shaped and sewn; these present cleaning and restoration challenges when the paper inside dries and cracks, in addition to the problem of shattering silks on the top. And some late 19th-early 20th century silks were made of the cheapest thinnest china silk scraps purchased en masse from manufacturers; this kind distintegrates when you breathe on it, it seems, but. we admire great examples of silk quilts anyway ,and continue to buy and hopefully try to preserve them.

Now that I think about what has passed through my hands, perhaps regular old cotton batting may be the exception for Victorian silk quilts, rather than the norm.

Back to work now, thanks for the respite.......Laura Fisher


Subject: Foot in mouth disease From: "J. G. Row" <JudyGrowpatmedia.net> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:36:14 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11

Last Sunday I went to my guild meeting, and of course everyone was talking about making quilts for the people who lost everything and were displaced by hurricane Katrina. So I told everyone how Southern quilts are often thicker than our Northern quilts, because they were really used for warmth, and many of ours were only for pretty. We have central heat for our long cold winters, but many of the Southern homes did not, the climate being generally much milder. So they could use thicker batts for the quilts they want to make for donations.

Then someone contradicted me and said that Carey Bresenhan, from Houston, who is, I guess, quilt central for donations, is asking for thin quilts, the better to store and stack them before handing them out. My question is, what good is a single thin quilt on a night when the temperature drops pretty low for the deep South? The donor might feel good about donating the quilt, but how warm will it keep the recipient on a cold winter night?

What say you Deep Southerners?

Judy, now in Flemington NJ aka The Ringoes Kid


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