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Subject: Re: Foot in mouth disease From: Jccullencrewaol.com 

Hi, I'm not southern but have lots of friends who have headed south as they've gotten older. Older people ALWAYS seem cold even if it's 70 degrees outside, plus they have A/C if it gets too hot, and they then like a warm blanket at night. I'd send my friends one that was definitely not that thin. JMHO Carol Grace


Subject: Re: Foot in mouth disease From: amdresner

Greetings from central Texas,

As one that was born and raised here in Texas, I can tell you that it does not get that cold for that long here. Having said that, I can also tell you that when it does get cold here it is miserably cold. As a child I recall having so many quilts piled on top of my sister and I that we could not even turn over in the bed.

Most homes these days here in Texas do have central heat and air. That, however does not keep your body warm on those really cold nights. Once in bed you need warmth and a good heavy quilt is the answer. Not to mention, as did Judy, the elderly. Their blood thins either by medication or just age. Then find it hard to keep warm on a nice 98 degree day, much less at bed time.

We do have a tendency to make our quilts heavier than up north. I suppose one could compare it as such; up north anything above 90 degrees is hotter than blue blazes while the south thinks nothing of 102 in the shade. So is the comparison of the cold. The northern states think nothing of ice, snow and freezing temperatures, while the south thinks anything below 38 degrees is frost bite.

Wasn't God awesome in planning out the climate of the world. It makes it possible for each of us to help each other when we take time to discuss these types of things. Go have a Blessed weekend and "keep up the laughter as it is the medicine of the soul".author unknown



Subject: RE: qhl digest: September 16, 2005 From: "Teddy Pruett"

<<My question is, what good is a single thin quilt on a night when the temperature drops pretty low for the deep South? The donor might feel good about donating the quilt, but how warm will it keep the recipient on a cold winter night?

What say you Deep Southerners?>>

This deep southerner, who happens to be researcing this stuff a tidbit at a time, says that the "big old fat old" were the norm for rural southern quilts from the civil war through WWII. We are no longer a third world country on our own - we caught up in the 1950's. So thin will be just fine.

Not meaning to sound terse - just the facts, gals. Teddy Pruett, as south as you can get - Florida


Subject: Re: Foot in mouth disease From: "Carroll"

RE: the Katrina quilts. Bresenhan and the Houston organization, Quilters Comfort America, say they have more than enough quilts now and are asking that no more be sent to them. You can read it on their site (and see some great photos) at http://www.quilts.com/

Be sure and check with other organizations before sending your quilts.



Subject: Thick vs Thin quilts and more opportunities for Katrina quilts

Hello friends, While it's true that quilts made in the rural South were often rather thick, I think that's because those quilts doubled as palettes (sleeping mattresses). I've heard many an old-timer talk about sleeping on a porch or breezeway on hot summer nights and using the thick old quilts as bedding. And when family comes to visit and there's lots of little ones, thick comfy quilts turn into kiddy beds. I've noticed that a lot of the thick quilts were also utility quilts, often scrap quilts, and thus their makers must have had in mind from the git-go that these might get rough wear. But the same quiltmaker, if the funds and time were available, might make a thin "show" quilt for a special occasion. What we are in the South is versatile! 

About the Katrina quilts: while the Houston organization may have quilts to the rafters, please don't stop making them! Or if you were going to make one and haven't gotten around to it, consider "Quilts for the Coast," the program my friend Patti Brown from The Quilted Butterfly in Morehead City NC has organized. Patti's hometown Waveland MS was utterly destroyed by Hurricane Katrina. While I realize the hurricane bad news is depressing, keep in mind these folks need our support for the long-haul. See http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/obliterated.town.ap/  and another more recent account http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/090205/new_leveled001.shtml  to learn about Waveland. 

Here's Quilts for the Coast in a nutshell: when you make a quilt, please send it before December 1 2005 to: Quilts for the Coast C/O The Quilted Butterfly 110 Little Nine Road Morehad City NC 28557. If your quilt's a small or twin, it means your name goes into a drawing once and if you send a larger quilt, that means two chances in your name. You can send as many quilts as you like and increase your chances! On December 1, one quiltmaker's name will be drawn and the winner gets their choice of either the Pfaff Quilt Expressions 2046 (the high-end quilter's edition) OR the new Pfaff Hobby Grand Quilter with Inspira Quilting Frame (the quilting machine). What happens to the quilts? Come December 2, they are on their way to Waveland MS residents who will be extremely grateful since it even gets cold in Mississippi in December! Many thanks from a Southerner who is still picking up from Hurricane Ophelia who blew through here Wednesday! Pepperb Cory


Subject: RE: batting question From: "Teddy Pruett" 

Wow!!! Ask and ye shall receive! I now possess page after page after page of scanned catalog pages containing batting descriptions. Everything I could ever want to know about batting......except for who bought them. My enormous thanks to Joan Kiplinger, who could not have been more giving if it had been her own research, and to SewSewSarah, who also sent pages.

Yall are just the best, my schedule absolutely allows NO TIME for digging into obscure sources. Your kind help means that the sources are instantly available and not so obscure after all. Many thinks to all who answered - Teddy


Subject: pallets and quilts From: mopalka <mopalkaalaska.net> 

These topics bring back such fond memories. I guess the quilts were called pallets if it was too hot to sleep under them and quilts when we needed a cover. They were so heavy, we could barely turn over! We cousins (all eleven of us) would have a sleep over and get out every quilt we could find. We learned to fold things neatly by folding all the quilts the next morning and putting everything away. Great Grandma Hannah made wool, tied comforters with who knows what as batting! I should open one to see! Oh, "ma" is NOT pronounced maw. That was indeed an insult!

With pleasant memories of growing up in the South.

Susan(in Alaska with 49 degrees. I've just cut back all the perennials, Sweet William, delphinium, peony, hostas, dicentra(bleeding heart)... the silly lilacs are blooming again! Tomorrow I plant bulbs.)


Subject: washing quilts/wool batting From: "Rosie Werner"

I, too, love to use wool batts inn my quilts. I have succesfully washed  them in my washing machine by using the following method: (Much easier  on the back.) 1. Fill the machine with warm water and soap. I use Orvis Paste, unless  I am concerned about colors running. Then I use Synthrapol. Put the  quilt into the water and soak for 15 minutes. Push down on the quilt to  force water through the quilt. Do not allow the machine to agitate.  After the soak, advance the machine to spin to get the water out. 2. Fill the machine for the rinse, but, again, stop it before it begins  to agitate. (On my machine, I just have to leave the cover open.) Push  down on the quilt to get rinse water through the layers. Advance to spin  and let the machine finish the cycle. If you think it needs another  rinse, repeat step 2. 3. Carefully lift it out of the machine. To dry, I spread a sheet over a  carpeted floor and put the quilt on the sheet. I block and measure to  get it square and let it air dry. You can put a fan on it to speed the  process. Usually takes about half a day, depending on humidity.

I've used this process successfully with dozens of quilts with cotton,  polyester and wool batts, even the ones I've entered in competition.  I've had no problems with them.

We used to raise sheep and I've had the fleeces made into mattress pads.  Now that's luxury! They cushion these aging bones and, being natural  fibers, allow air through to keep sheets dry despite night sweats. Rosie


Subject: catalog/ batting pages From: sewsewsarahjuno.com Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:00:58 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

<< Everything I could ever want to know about batting......except for who bought them. My enormous thanks to Joan Kiplinger, who could not have been more giving if it had been her own research, and to SewSewSarah, who also sent pages.>>

While I was looking through my hard back repro of the Ward's 1920-something catalog, I saw marking powder and perforated patterns used for quilt marking advertised. Didn't this list have a conversation about that not too long ago?

~*~Sarah in WV~*~


Subject: Ophelia From: Gail Ingram <gingramtcainternet.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:22:45 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

I'm almost afraid to mention a hurricane, but for those who believe in good thought waves and prayers, I would call attention to Lynn Gorges, who has home in Atlantic, NC, where Ophelia stood grinding up beach for long time.



Subject: Wonderful Civil War quilt From: Patricia L Cummings


Yesterday, we took a little ride and visited a museum which had only a few quilts on display. Just as I was about to despair of them not having more textiles, I spotted the most amazing quilt. Made in 1864 by the Ladies Aid Society, it is a potholder style quilt. Each brown block (there were 20 in the quilt), had various motifs: appliquéd buntings and flags, a lighthouse with a flag, crossed swords, canons and canon balls, a wonderful eagle with arrows, and olive branches, etc. Many of the large blocks were hand quilted vertically. Others had echo quilting. Three blocks had indiscernible inscriptions in black ink (unreadable from where I stood). A poem appears on the back, the museum page stated. A true relic of the Civil War, it has stood the test of time well.

We also had luck at a bookstore. Found a first edition copy of Quilts in America, a signed, first edition copy of Plain and Fancy (the one with antique artifacts from Winterthur Museum), and an excellent condition copy of the Rose Wilder Lane book. The sun was shining and it sure was good to hit the road and head north.

Loved all the G.A.R. silk military ribbons, and all of the other Civil War memorabilia in the museum. It's always fun to find special things at unexpected times.

Picked up a copy of Lynne's article in The Magazine Antiques. Great job, Lynne. Love your diagrams of wholecloth quilts!


Pat Cummings


Subject: RE: qhl digest: September 16, 2005 From: "Alan"

I don't know, I prefer several thin quilts. Traps air, making for good insulation. Besides, that weather doesn't start in N. Fl until December.


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist Http://www.alanrkelchner.com ----- Original Message 

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Subject: ophelia and southern quilts From: Palamporeaol.com 

Ophelia hit eastern NC coastline heavily because it hit on a high tide and a full moon in many areas. We have a family beach house that has been with us for 44 yrs. We had never been flooded before, but this time we got 10 inches of salt water in our family room, and tons of rain poured into our upstairs attic and trailed into 3 rooms. Along with that our duct work under the house is soaked/ruined. (No flood insurance---hadn't needed any.) 

Our entire street had damage of some kind in each house. We saw lots of houses with major flooding in Atlantic Beach and ripped off roofs. Then we headed up Hwy 70 along the southern most Outer Banks and kept seeing more damage and flooding. I don't think that it is anywhere near what Katrina was, but I assure you it was the most destruction that area has had in the 44 yrs. I have been going there. It was a Category 1 that shocked everyone!!! 

My sister and I had one heck of a weekend ripping out carpet, sucking up water, etc. But we did have food, water, A/C, electricity, etc. It could have been much worse. It's the price we pay for living in paradise most of the time. 

As for heavy Southern quilts-----my 2 cents worth-----I see the thick quilts being made at the turn of the century and on into the 20th Century. Prior to that the Southern quilts were most of the time thin and well quilted. I think it was a style thing as well as a social/economy thing. I think that quilting as an art was not as much in style so the stitches were getting bigger. (They are now more attached to their sewing machines, and fancy stitching is seen on crazy quilts, household decorations, etc.) They were doing it the quicker easier way. They found out that they could add more batt if they didn't stitch it so closely. And, instead of throwing 3 or 4 of those thin quilts on the bed, 1 or 2 big fat one would do just fine. Same goes for palletts on the floor.

 And remember that cotton was easy to come by for farm folks and relatively cheap for city folks in the south because it was being grown all over the SE. Those women were like us----the more conveniences they had, the less time they had for things they used to do...... The houses didn't get much warmer until the 1950's & 1960's when we finally began to get central heat down here. Winters could be brutally cold, and piling on the quilts was done often at my house when I was a little girl. Rarely did bedrooms have heat, especially in the older big houses. I remember sleeping at our neighbor's house under so many quilts in the winter that we could hardly move. And our noses would be frozen! Good night, and sleep tight. Don't let the bed bugs bite. Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC



Subject: holding lapel From: Palamporeaol.com 

Hi, my husband who is a Civil War expert( owner of Battleground Antiques & www.civilwarshop.com) says that holding the lapel is just a photographer thing. Has nothing to do with political persuasion. Lynn Gorges, New Bern, NC


Subject: bias tape coverlet From: Gloria hanrahan <


I know we have had some interest in items made with bias tape.


Subject: Washing a quilt From: "Linda Heminway" <ibquiltncomcast.net>

Just want to report that I recently washed a quilt that I was fearful to wash. I had posted a long time ago and brought the subject up as "I know it's taboo, but what if you really just need to wash an old quilt".... Xenia, I tried the go take a nap thing several times and just couldn't get past that it was filthy, period. This quilt was downright dirty, with ground in skin oils and soil after years and years. It's around 1890 - 1910 in age and was just brown with dirt. It was just something I had to do in order to feel comfortable working to repair it. It even smelled, let's actually be truthful here, it was beyond a smell, it "reeked". 

I tried the usual Orvis and soaking in the tub routine and it just didn't seem to cut the ground in oils and dirt at all. When I drained water out of the tub before refilling it, I noted the smell was lessened, but not completely gone. I was exasperated as I really wanted the quilt to be clean. I decided to be brave (sorry to offend any of you who wouldn't ever dream of this, but I just want to work with this quilt, and then display it and know it was "trash" otherwise) and tried spraying Simple Green concentrate in a fine mist over top of the quilt as it was already immersed in water and had been re-filled several times and rinsed following working with the Orvis. I gently swished the water after spraying the cleaner in and left it sit, swishing occasionally. I refilled the tub and repeated the process twice and then refillled with clear water several times. 

It took guts to do this and I don't recommend this to anyone else unless you just have one of those really soiled quilts that you wouldn't want to touch unless something cleaned it, and thoroughly. At any rate, I feel this cleaner worked. The fabric brightened and I didn't take note of damage. I re-filled the tub quite a few times with clear, cool water to rinse, and see a remarkable difference. The fabric is not damaged now that the quilt is dry and it's not smelly any longer and the stains, ground in soils and all seem to have lifted. No fabrics ran as well. 

I wonder if I am the first to try this or has anyone else had any luck? I chose Simple Green as it is recommended for laundry issues and non-toxic (my husband says it's actually safe to drink, not that anyone would) and biodegradable. It is highly concentrated so the tiniest amount is all you need. I have had great luck with Simple Green in restoring antique sewing machines, my other passion. So, if it won't damage the fine gold decals on antique machines, I figured it was worth a try on this quilt. I am very pleased with the end result, I feel the fabrics have a soft glow and the reds and pinks have become exactly that again, red and pink and not dusty brownish pink. The indigos in it are exactly that, not brownish indigo. 

So, just thought I'd toss this all out to you and see if you all have any remarks. If I did something that might cause further damage to the fibers down the road, I am sorry for this, however, this was truly the ONLY way I could salvage this quilt and let it have a new life again. Thoughts? Linda Heminway Plaistow NH


Subject: Re: Washing a quilt From: kathie holland

How lucky your are that this worked. I am happy for you as now you can enjoy this quilt....would it be possible for you to post a picture of the quilt? Thanks Kathie in NJ 


Subject: Re: Wonderful Civil War quilt From: JLHfwaol.com 

Dear Pat, Which Rose Wilder Lane book are you referring to? Janet in Fort Worth


Subject: Antiques article From: "Lynne Z. Bassett" <lzbassettcomcast.net>

Thank you to all of you who have written to congratulate me on my whole-cloth quilts article in the current issue of Antiques! I greatly value your opinion! And I appreciate your patience with flipping pages back and forth so you can see the images and make the comparisons that the article discusses--the art director's layout doesn't make this an easy task!

Best, Lynne


Subject: Re: ophelia and southern quilts From: Blackeyesandysueaol.com

Southern quilts, Just a few comments. I grew up deep in the heart of Texas. I have quilts from 3 of my great grandmothers. The earliest 1890's. None later than 1940's. None have thick bats. Maybe bat thickness was availability, price or preference. My mother has told me that once the beds were made in the morning that you did not lay on them or mess them up. therefore, the day bed or a pallett for rest or napping in the afternoons. A pallet in my family meant making a place to sleep on the floor. Quilts and or blankets were used. In many hot regions it is very hard to work in the hottest part of the day. The afternoon nap was popular. Polly Mello



Subject: Redwork symbol From: Jennifer Perkins <qltrstoreharlannet.com>

Hi all, I saw a symbol in a redwork quilt this week that consisted of a crossed cross and anchor within a heart topped by a flame. Anybody know what the significance of this is? The quilt had a dated block-1900. Jennifer in Iowa


Subject: RE: Redwork symbol From: Margareta.Faustcec.eu.int Date: Tue, 20

Hi Jennifer, these sound like Christian symbols: the cross for faith,  the anchor for hope, the heart for charity. Blazing hearts were common  within Catholic 19th century visual imagery, you find a lot of the in French samplers embroidered at convent schools, to name one example. There was  a cult of Jesus' 'sacred heart' at that time. ( That's what the famous  church in Paris - SacrE9 Coeur - is named for, built around 1900). Not 100% sure since I can't see the quilt you're describing, but that  is what it sounds like to me! Margareta in Europe.


Subject: Re: qhl digest: September 19, 2005 From: "Linda Heminway"

Kathie, maybe at the end of the week I can. This has been a rough week here, my dad passed away and we are immersed in "arrangements" and family matters. When I have time to breath, I'll take a photo of it. I have to say that I took a risk with this quilt and do not recommend that anyone do that with one that might be perceived as highly valuable or a family quilt. I got this quilt for free and it's not made by an anscestor of mine, therefore my "risk" was minimal. Yet, I really wanted to report my use of Simple Green and the success I had with it to you all. It could be gentle enough for other types of old fabrics without destroying them. Will take a photo later, thanks. Linda Heminway Plaistow, NH


Subject: Rose Wilder Lane From: "Charlotte Bull" <charloumo-net.com>

I don't know if Pat found the same book, but I was once fortunate enough  to find the Woman's Day Book of American Needlework by Rose Wilder Lane.  1963. Marvelous condition inside with a clear plastic covering over the  original cover that was slightly torn. That was in 1992. It was in a  used book store.

Now, for the "rest of the story"! A few hours later I found an amazing  $10 bargain at an antique shop in Osage Beach, MO. I was attending the  MO State Guild Retreat. A very specifically designed folder or box with  the same picture on the top of it that was on the cover of the book. It  rang my bell Big Time! It contained the patterns for many varied needlework projects in the  book. Very big pages with full size patterns - even for a Hawaiian  Applique Quilt! Also a 32 page general instruction booklet.

I just measurered the pattern pages - 35" x 45". I am amused as each is  basically a yard of fabric! I am wildly thankful that you reminded me of  this marvelous companion set of inspired needlework patterns, even if I  don't do knitting, crochet, embroidery or rug hooking. It is mostly  Quilts!

I found the perfect quilt that I MUST replicate, Sunburst Compasses with  appliqued Swag Border. It includes the full size feather plume quilting  patterns too. The actual book offers the fullcolor pictures of the  antique quilts that are in museums. It is definitely a set, just as the  basic booklet in the box says! I'm glad I found & reunited them. As I  recall, the man in the antique furniture shop seemed relieved to find  someone who wanted the box as he did not normally sell "books"! I do  know exactly how Pat felt or how a miner felt when he discovered a gold  mine or .... well you all surely understand.

Thanks to Janet for asking the question that made me go and reread my  Rose Wilder Lane's book! Even if it might not be the book that Pat  found! I had planned on asking the same question as I had a hunch! May  you all find a perfect older book to treasure. Charlotte of Missouri Oz (arks) ------_NextPart_000_000B_01C5BDCB.4F7A8F10--


Subject: Item of eBay From: "Karen Musgrave"

I found this very cool crazy quilt envelope pocket with verse on eBay. Says c 1890. I'd love if someone could give me an idea of how much it is worth. Curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought her back.


Thanks, Karen


Subject: Query on shipping quilts From: catzrockisland.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:36:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

From the Quilt Art list: a poll regarding shipping quilts. If you are not familiar with maria Elkins website "lost quilt" - have a look - its great

Marie Johansen

If you haven't voted yet, please go to http://www.lostquilt.com/ShippingPoll.html to vote on which method you use most frequently when you ship a quilt.

Also, if you are part of any other quilt email list or chat list, please pass on this link so we have a large sampling. If you do, please let me know which list you posted to so I won't duplicate your efforts. Thanks! Maria Elkins Lost Quilt Come Home Page http://www.lostquilt.com <http://www.lostquilt.com/> -- marialostquilt.com Dedicated to displaying lost and stolen quilts and to providing information on protecting quilts http://www.mariaelkins.com <http://www.mariaelkins.com/> -- memariaelkins.com


Subject: Re: Query on shipping quilts From: Jccullencrewaol.com

I looked though the missing quilts web site and was very surprised to see a purple block missing from the same purse RR that I was in. Unfortunately, my block never came home either.

Now I'm wondering how coincidental that could be. I think I'll check with the other owner of the purple block and see what we come up with. Both lost in the mail? Problem on the part of the person who was supposed to send it? Lots to think about.

It was good to see some quilts recovered. There is always hope when things seem impossible.

Thanks for your post.

Carol Grace


Subject: Rose Wilder Lane From: Gail Ingram <gingramtcainternet.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:36:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Ah, Rose Wilder Lane!

She, Carrie Hall, and R. Kretsinger were my earliest quilting companions.

I never thought I would own my own copy of Lane's "American Needlework."

And then, hot dog!, I came across one in a shop. Bought it for a song.

Of course, I thought, I would never find the companion pattern box. Yet, when I searched eBay one day, there were two boxes and a copy of the book. I think I spent about $12 for both a book and the two boxes, so that I could give a student who was an aspiring quilter one set and have a set of my own.

Since then, I have run across both fairly often on eBay.

For years, I kept the local library's copy of "American Needlework" checked out. I would check it out for 2 weeks, renew it; then my husband would check it out and renew it. Although it had circulated almost none before I discovered it and no one ever placed a call for it, our librarian took great umbrage at what she regarded as my excessive usage. I live about 20 miles from where Clyde Barrow and Bonnie ??, the Depression era bandits, were killed and a woman who was kidnapped by the pair right off her front porch still lives in this town. Unable to figure a way to keep me from checking out Ms. Lane's book regularly, the librarian turned to local legends and began calling my husband and me "The Bonnie and Clyde of the Lincoln Parish Library." I cherish and hang onto to the title yet. I suggested to the librarian that she have a badge made up that I could wear the way Hester Prynne wore her Scarlet Letter. Alas, the woman was unamused.

I recognize Lane's conclusions do not always meet the tests of later scholarship, but her soaring prose and her sense of American women are worth the price of the book. So are the photographs of quilts.

More recently, I acquired an in-progress kit quilt based on the Sunburst pattern in that book.

Were there other kits prepared, based on quilts in this book?

Gail Ingram


Subject: Redwork Symbol, and book From: Patricia L Cummings


Somewhere along the line I came across the Redwork design and learned that it is a symbol of the Methodist faith.

As for the Rose Wilder Lane book, yes it is the same one. I have had the "set" for a long time but the book was really in battered condition. It was great to find one in excellent condition. The pattern set is very nice.

Off to buy some new kitchen curtains. No self-respecting quilter would take the time to make her own!

Pat Cummings


Subject: Re: Rose Wilder Lane From: Jackie Joy <joysbeesyahoo.com> 

This discussion takes me back to 1969. I received my copy of the book and case of patterns in payment for typing a master's thesis for a friend. The impoverished graduate student's wife had left him and her copy of American Needlework behind. The phrase "porphyritic quartz monzonite" remains with me to this day.

Jackie Joy Reno, Nevada, once proud home to the Mackay School of Mines.


Subject: Redwork symbol From: Patricia L Cummings

Thank you for mentioning the Redwork symbol. I found an early example in an 1890 catalog listed as #3029. The design is a tilted cross, an anchor leaning in the opposite direction, a heart, flames, and what appear to be morning glory leaves, all entwined. There is no title to the design, just a number.

I cannot find the book where I thought I'd read that there was a Methodist connection. The cross and flame is the symbol of the Methodist faith and one can see it here: http://www.ourchurch.com/view/?pageID84123 

The above Redwork symbol may have been related to the Catholic faith, although I was brought up Catholic and have never seen it associated with Catholicism before.

At any rate, it is a lovely design. At the pearly gates, I don't really expect that St. Peter will be sorting out the Catholics and the Methodists, into two separate lines. Sorry for any confusion I caused. Consider it hearsay, unless I find the reference.

I receive this list in "digest form", so if any of you have said something else about the symbol, the earliest I will know about it is 12:01, eastern standard time.


Pat Cummings


Subject: Studio Study Group meeting held From: "J. G. Row"

On Tuesday, September 20th, 12 members of our group met in Clinton New Jersey at the historic Red Mill Museum's office/storage facility. Members attending were from New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont, New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.


The museum's curator of collections, Jean Daley, had set up two double tables for us, covered them with sheets, gave us white gloves, pointed out the huge roll of acid free tissue and left us to pull their boxes of quilts out of storage, empty them of their lovely contents, spread them out on the tables to study, and then refold them with new tissue to go back into storage . When I made the arrangements for the group Jean said that refolding the quilts had never taken more than 2 hours. It took us twice that and then some.

Among the items of interest were two fundraising redwork signature quilt tops, one red and white brickwork, the other a pink embroidered flower of 11 petals with names embroidered in all the petals. A group from the local quilt shop, Kindred Quilts, is reproducing this quilt in red and white as a fundraiser to support the collection. Many of our names will appear on this new quilt.

We saw three log cabin quilts, one in a streak of lightening set, one a straight furrows, and one in a large and very graphic "X", all from the late 19th century. A lovely flying goose strippy had the vertical sashes of a late 19th century paisley stripe.

We all Oohed and Aahed over a crib quilt top of 30 blocks in the Kansas Dugout pattern with 4-patch corner blocks in the red sashing. The blocks were not more than 4" square and the workmanship was supurb. Each block used 3 different fabrics, one for the squares, and two others for the elongated hexagons. What wasn't apparent (to me) immediately until I studied my photo was that the maker had arranged the blocks so that there were definite diagonal stripes of the darkest fabrics running across the quilt.

Two Irish chains were in the collection, one a red and white from the first half of the 19th century whose red fabrics had almost entirely lost their dark figures so that from afar the fabric looked looked like a red and white check. The other Irish Chain had a border around three sides of Oak Leaf and Reel blocks. The only other quilt with applique was a lovely green and red "Poke Berries" with a vine border, from the 1850's, the red fabric worn to missing in places.

The magical quilt of the day wasn't quilted at all. It was a tied comforter, whole cloth, the same fabric front and back. And what a fabric! It was a blue and white pillar print with an eagle. It still had its glaze and was in excellent condition, in contrast to many other of the quilts in the collection.

Many of the 40 quilts saved and conserved by this little local museum were no more than ordinary, and were well worn and well loved. They may not see the light of day very often, and many wouldn't be able to be hung and exhibited because of condition. But they are being preserved for future generations by a community which obviously reveres its past. As study tools they are invaluable.

How many hundreds of other small museums have collections like this one? How many historic societies are just waiting for you to knock on their doors and ask to study their collection? How fortunate we were that it was time to refold the quilts at the Red Mill Museum!

Judy, now in Flemington NJ aka The Ringoes Kid judygrowpatmedia.net


Subject: Need help From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> 

Can anyone help me locate this place? I've googled all over the place and can't seem to get a definite answer.

Orcadia, Orkney, West Ebenezer.

Its Canada...but where?

Sally W


Subject: Washing a quilt From: "Jan Drechsler" <quiltdocadelphia.net> 


If it was your quilt, and you were willing to take the risk of using Simple Green, then who are we to condemn you?

Re:I chose Simple Green as it is recommended for laundry issues and non-toxic

If you were concerned about leftover residue from the soap in the quilt, you could do your final rinse with de-ionized water. After removing as much water from the quilt, I buy gallons of de-ionized water from the supermarket, pour over the quilt while still in the tub, and then squeeze that out with a large, clean sponge. It isn't very cheap, but considering the value of the quilt, it really is cheap. De-ionized water was the last rinse step that many of us learned at Restoration Workshops in Omaha.


-- Jan Drechsler NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: quiltdocadelphia.net

Quilt Restoration; Quilting teacher


Subject: Re: Need help From: "Sharon in NC"

Are you sure it is Canada? http://www.orcadiadesign.co.uk/

Sharon in NC


Subject: Re: Need help From: "Sharon in NC"

Here is something else that might relate.. http://www.orkneyjar.com/folklore/ Sharon in NC


Subject: Drunkard's Path date From: Jennifer Perkins

Hi again, I also saw a Drunkard's Path quilt this week in a medium blue solid and white, cut into the T shape with a 6 1/4" drop and bound with fringe. The quilt was 70" by 89". I know the T shape and fringe indicate a pre 1860 date, but was not sure about the Drunkard's Path pattern. I have looked, and the earliest one I can find is dated 1884. Does anyone know of an earlier quilt with this pattern? Does the size of the drop indicate anything about the date of the quilt in a T shape? Thanks! Jennifer in Iowa


Subject: Re: Need help From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> 

Sharon in NC wrote: > Are you sure it is Canada? > http://www.orcadiadesign.co.uk/

Yes, definitely Canada. I was given the place name in connection with some research on wartime Red Cross quilts. I hoped to find out more about the place, but have drawn a blank.

Sally W


Subject: Re: Need help From: "Sharon in NC"

I see an Orcadia, Saskatchewan http://www.becquet.com/director/maps/Orcadia.htm Orkney, Saskatchewan http://ca.epodunk.com/profiles/saskatchewan/orkney/2001706.html and an Ebenezer Saskatchewan.. http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.asp?id4442

Maybe that will help..

Sharon in NC


Subject: Oil spill From: "Pam Weeks" <pamworthenhotmail.com>

Does any one have any experience dealing with fabric and quilts that have been exposed to fumes from a tank of heating oil that emptied into a basement area near the textile storage area? Will airing eventually remove the odor?

Pam Weeks in NH, happy for the first day of autumn.



September 21, 2005

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Subject: Dots and printed plaids available From: Kaytripletaol.com 


Sorry that I can't remember who, but someone was looking for dots and printed plaids. Happened to stumble across some today. A line called Cinnamon Stars from Moda which is available at the link above (and surely other fabric stores as well).

Kay Triplett Still in hot (100 degrees!) and humid Houston


Subject: Signature quilts From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> 

Can someone please remind me who is documenting signature quilts? I seem to struggle finding things like this in the archives.


Sally W


Subject: Re: Signature quilts From: "Susan Wildemuth"

This is the latest information I have on it as it appeared in a magazine article -- It is my understanding that she is the contact person for the status of the project.

Signature Quilt Database

Nancy Hornback 201 Circle Drive Wichita, KS 67218 nancy9336sbcglobal.net

Sue in Illinois


Subject: It's almost here... From: Alice Kinsler <alicekmbay.net> 

Dear List Members, I'm writing to thank all of you on QHL who have provided support and inspiration for my upcoming exhibit, "46rom Dust Bowl to Salad Bowl: 

The Quilts and Quiltmakers of the Depression Era Migration to the Salinas Valley" at the National Steinbeck Center in Salinas, CA...and of course, I want to remind you to see it!

At this very moment a week from now, I will be enjoying the pleasure of

sharing the exhibit with many people on opening night (Friday, September 30). My presentation that evening will include slides with 7

photos of the 9 quiltmakers and all 15 of the quilts in the exhibition. My colleague and cultural affairs manager for Monterey County, Meg Clovis, and author of the recently published Arcadia book,

"The Salinas Valley," will share photos and information about life in the Salinas Valley in the 1930s to set the stage for my sharing stories

about the quilters and their quilts.

The exhibit will also include tableaus that give context for the quilts, 5 vintage Dorothea Lange photos (including the famous Migrant Mother) on loan from the Oakland Museum of California, as well as audio

recordings of a FDR Fireside Chat about the the Dust Bowl, "Voices of the Dust Bowl" from the Smithsonian, and Woody Guthrie songs.

Should you be in the Central Coast of California from September 30- February 26, 2006, I hope you will consider visiting the National Steinbeck Center to experience this exhibit. It is my first time as curator, and the journey has been extraordinary from the beginning of my research last September until this amazing experience of actualizing

my vision. Hearing the stories of the quiltmakers' families, as well

as those of the one living quiltmaker, and putting together facts of their lives from census and obituary records has been a fascinating process. Applying hanging sleeves to their quilts has brought me even

closer to their stories and lives as I touch their creations and hear and feel their voices. In the exhibit there is one quilt of questionable origin, discovered in the refuse bin of a woman's estate sale. It is like so many quilts that we who are interested in quilt history have seen...the quiltmaker92s story about this beautiful quilt

and the time it was made will likely never be told. It pleases me that

each quilt in this exhibit will be identified for as long as it and its

new label exist.

Thanks for all the wonderful information that this communion of quilt lovers provides and for your interest in endeavors such as this exhibit. Alice Kinsler


Subject: Re: AQSG WORKSHOP ON THE QUILT INDEX From: Judy Schwender <sister3603yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 2

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Hello all, Just to clarify: AQSG is NOT the sponsor of this event. To register, please contact Mary Worrall, Assistant Curator, Michigan State University Museum, at Worrallmsu.edu or (517) 432-4118 by October 5, 2005. Please do not contact AQSG. My apologies if this has confused or inconvenienced anyone. Judy Schwender

Judy Schwender <sister3603yahoo.com> wrote:

September 21, 2005

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REGISTER FOR A FREE, HANDS-ON, WORKSHOP ON THE QUILT INDEX, an innovative on-line resource providing unprecedented access to images and information about quilts in museum collections and those documented in state quilt projects.

Learn about the Quilt Index Project, who is involved and how you can be involved Sample tools and resources currently available on the Index Get assistance in using the Index to produce a lesson plan and/or research project proposal Give feedback and suggestions directly to two of the Index’s primary project staff


REGISTRATION IS LIMITED TO 15 PARTICIPANTS. Each participant will need to bring their own laptop and USB cord; all workshop participants will get free internet connection that day via the hotel’s Ethernet connection.

The Quilt Index is a collaborative project led by Michigan State University Museum MATRIX: Center for Humane Arts, Letters and Social Sciences Online, MSU; and The Alliance for American Quilts. This phase of development of the Index is supported by a National Leadership Grant for Library-Museum Collaborations from the Institute for Museum and Library Services.

To register, please contact Mary Worrall, Assistant Curator, Michigan State University Museum, at Worrallmsu.edu or (517) 432-4118 by October 5, 2005.


Subject: Help with "Joseph's Coat" From: "Pat L. Nickols"

Could anyone help with information about this pattern for one of our European friends. She is multi-talented, combining art and history with quilt history. Know she will appreciate any help this knowledgeable group can give her.

Pat L. Nickols

From: "Constanze Schweiger" <cschweigeronemail.at> To: patlnickolsyahoo.com

Dear Pat Nickols,

I am an Austrian visual artist, a painter, using the tradition of quilt making as a pretext to my work.

So far I found only very little information on the motive of the Joseph's Coat - besides that it is referring to the coat of Joseph from the Old Testament and that most of the quilt's examples I have found in books and on the net where done by Mennonites. Do you know more about the history of this quilt, or could you advise me where to look for it? I would be especially interested if the pattern could have bore any potential of identification for women (for example for it's naive, brave, dangerous boldness) or other meaning than to retell or cherish the bible.

I would appreciate your help very much! Thank you and with kind regards,

Constanze Schweiger



Subject: Signature Quilt Database From: Kaytripletaol.com 

Nancy Hornback > 201 Circle Drive > Wichita, KSA0 67218 > nancy9336sbcglobal.net

I believe the actual address is nancy9636sbcglobal.net. Last I heard from Nancy, there was not a lot of activity on this project.

Kay Triplett in hot, humid Houston, having done well through the hurricane last night


Subject: Signature database From: louise-b 

Nancy Hornback's name was included in one of the articles in the current Piecework magazine that is devoted to quilts. I had seen her the previous weekend and had no idea (or had forgotten) that she was involved in this. The MOKA group (a regional quilt group) had devoted one of the meetings to signature quilts and there was a variety of them.

For myself I don't think I shall ever forget the presentation at Rockford by Melinda Jurgensa (sp?) on the one she researched from the James collection in Lincoln using a variety of techniques including databases, plain old detective work and finding the right people to help.

Louise Bequette


Subject: little blue Kenmore sewing machines 

A few months back, some people on my quilting lists were talking about  and/or buying those little blue Kenmore sewing machines. One of my  students recently bought one and it seems like a very nice machine. Do  any of you own one, and have you done any actual quilting on it? Does  anyone know if there is a 1/4" foot available for this machine, as well  as a walking/even-feed/dual-feed foot? Thanks so much :)

Hugs, Merry


Subject: Kenmore machines From: Kaytripletaol.com 

I don't know about the little blue Kenmore machines, but I still have the Kenmore that I received from my mother for high school graduation in the '70s and actually use it over my Bernina for buttonholes. It can use any of the standard feet, and I have purchased a walking foot and "Little Foot" 1/4" foot for it. Chlotilde is a good source for these standard feet if it is the same.

Kay Triplett in still hot, humid Houston


Hi, Linda -- I congratulate you on your nerve to launder a quilt in Simple Green. Last week while doing an appraisal day at a shop in California, one lady brought in a bright and beautiful Irish Chain quilt made from 1930s fabrics, including some feedsacks. Apparently she had had a fire, and the only quilt to survive was this one. She said it was black and smoky. She took it to her mother to keep safe until she decided what to do............her mother washed it in the washing machine with Simple Green!! The owner and I both nearly had heart failure -- there may be damage down the road a ways, but at the moment, the quilt is sparkling, bright, and clean.....only a very faint smoke odor, so faint in fact that I don't think I'd have noticed it if she hadn't told me the story. So, no matter what we historians and quilt care folks say, something is going on out there. Has anyone contacted the company to see if they've done tests on using it with vintage or antique fabrics?

Marilyn Maddalena Withrow Professional Quilt Appraiser, Judge, Designer, Historian and Speaker www.marilynquilts.com


Subject: Re: qhl digest: September 25, 2005 From: Donna Keating

Merry - I own the little blue Kenmore machine - bought it about a year and a half ago after taking a class from Billie Lauder in Fort Worth. She had one and highly recommended it. I needed a small machine to haul around to quilt classes because my big Janome is so heavy and cumbersome.

Little Blue works just great! Don't know about quilting on it - I just do piecing. I marked the quarter inch line on the machine so haven't tried to locate a 1/4" foot. It was well worth the 100 bucks!

Donna K N. TX

A few months back, some people on my quilting lists were talking about  and/or buying those little blue Kenmore sewing machines. One of my  students recently bought one and it seems like a very nice machine. Do  any of you own one, and have you done any actual quilting on it? Does  anyone know if there is a 1/4" foot available for this machine, as well  as a walking/even-feed/dual-feed foot? Thanks so much :)



Subject: signature quilts From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquiltsyahoo.com>

How encouraging that some talented historic researchers think it's possible to determine where some signature quilts were from, even without a town and state name on them It wouod be wonderful topress a button (or two or three) and have info pop up. I have some quilts with literally hundreds of names embroidered or inked in, but nothing else to place them. Now, how to get someone to transcribe them to then submit to a data base--that's the real fantasy. Does anyone have a method to deciphering signatures when embroidery in old penmanship is hard to read, or the ink is quite faded? Thanks for tips and clues.... Laura Fisher


Subject: Re: signature quilts From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com>

Does anyone have a method to deciphering signatures when embroidery in old penmanship is hard to read, or the ink is quite faded?

I did have some success in deciphering the printing on a very faded piece of flour sack by taking a digital photograph and messing about with the image in editing software. I tried all sorts of colour enhancements until one suddenly lit up the word.

There is probably a more scientific approach than 'messing about', but it worked for me <G>

Sally W


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"NPR : Hidden Treasures: Mrs. Parmeter's Klan Quilt"


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Subject: Re: signature quilts From: 

Laura, I had fairly good luck with a high intensity lamp and the maginfying glasses that I use to sew with. I use the kind that fits like a headband on my forehead. Polly Mello


Subject: Signature quilt From: Litwinowaol.com D

Good morning, I hope you have picked up your copy of "Pieceworks" magazine Sept/Oct Vol. XIII No. 5. Our very own Susan Wildemuth of Illinois (also a founder of IA/IL Quilt Study Group) wrote "Investigating an Album Signature Quilt." Andi in Iowa has an article on "Caring for Modern Quilts" in the same issue. Andi and I had an interesting day signing the magazine at the only independent book store in the Quad-Cities. It averaged 1 magazine an hour! It just happened that a quilt from my collection is pictured on the cover. I haven't done any research on this quilt which was purchased in Des Moines, IA. Catherine, counting the days until Golden and AQSG


Subject: Re: Signature Quilts From: 

I just wish I had the time, and the stick to itiveness - to research signed quilts for more information on origin. Some I have bought have ONLY names, not one clue as to locale. Names of organizations oer groups whose members signed sure gihelp when delving into historical research.

I am always frustrated because the most often asked questions from visitors to my shop are: do you know who made it, and where is it from. It's unfortunate that no one among the hundreds of signers of some of those great quilts thought to write in the WHERE and the collective WHO or any organization information that would help for posterity. I hope now, if people do this kind of quilt, they include at least one little bitty area mentioning the town and state, group and date of completion.

I hope I didn't convey a wrong tone in my note to QHL. It's just that finding a quilt with hundreds of names but no other info is ultimately so frustrating to seller and buyer alike. All I can share with shoppers--without hiring a researcher - is the locale in which any quilt was picked from, and that might not even be the locale of origin, as things move around the country through many hands, as we know.

Maybe tomorrow I'll put a signture quilt on eBay--and someone out there will be able to tell me where it's from!!

thanks for taking the time to write me, and let me know also if you know any people who are interested in being hired from time to time to conduct geneological research on some quilts with names I would like to know more about.

Laura Fisher

Susan Wildemuth <ksandbcwgeneseo.net> wrote: Good Evening Laura,

I decided to write you off list as I would like to talk with you about signature quilts in a friendly, kind, and non-flaming fashion.

I know you are very respected in your field and please don't be upset with me or think I think I know it all -- I don't, but investigating signature quilts is an interest of mine. You are right it is impossible to research some signature quilts with numerous names on them, but that is not true of all signature quilts.

I collect signature quilts. I have been researching a Schuyler County Illinois Quilt since 2003 and the research is still on-going as I don't feel like I've got this quilt's whole story yet. I purchased this quilt off E-bay something I do not normally do, but it had my maiden name on it so I took a chance. I learned from the seller that it came out of an estate sale in Schuyler County. I used that piece of information (the fact that it came from a Schuyler County estate) as the starting place in my research. I was originally told that the quilt was from the turn-of-the-century -- well I knew that wasn't right as the fabrics were 1930's fabrics. That led me to 1930 census and other research documents, databases, ancestor contacts, and organization contacts too numerous to mention here. My research is still continuing -- I have four three-ring binders full of documentation about this quilt and the women who made it.

My goal in researching this quilt was to tell the stories of the woman who signed the quilt and to save a piece of Illinois Quilt History.

I just purchased a signature quilt from an antique mall. It is one of the wagon wheel ones with tons of signatures. The quilt has the name of a hospital, Epworth League, the name of a nurse (it says nurse under her name), and the name of two Reverends. I have not fully investigated this quilt, but have done some preliminary (very-very early stages) investigating and I believe this quilt is from Nebraska - though Nebraska is not written on the quilt. The two Reverends are from the same Nebraska County - same town, the nurse is from the same county - same town, the hospital is in the same county-same town, the nurse worked (as a teacher of student nurses) at the hospital in the same county - same town, and the Epworth League was very active in this particular Methodist Episcopal Hospital. I have looked up one of the wagon wheels of names and they are from the same county- same town (I have many more names to look up, but as I said I'm in the beginning stages of this project) I have someone at the ME Hospital checking records for me even as we speak to see if they kept a archive/list of the student nurses (they verified the nurse worked there) and if they have a list of projects the Epworth League was working on during the time frame that I believe this quilt was created. I am also corresponding with an elderly Reverend that the hospital put me in contact with who is suppose to be the person to talk to about the history of this particular hospital. I'm just beginning to work on this project. At this point I can't definitely say this is a Nebraska Quilt, but it looks like it might have originated from there.

You are right there are some signature quilts that we will never know the provenance of, but there are others we can research. I get a great deal of joy from researching the ones I can.

I welcome your feedback.

Yours in quilt history, Sue Wildemuth.


Subject: Re: signature quilts From: AG32040aol.com 

Laura, If you have access to a Photoshop computer program you can scan the names in and then digitally enhance the name.This worked out great on some very faded 1891 historic photos ofCoconut Grove . Amy G. in Miami


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