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Subject: Re: Signature Quilt (Long) From: "Jeff & Sheri Lesh" <jeffleshnetins.net> 

During the cleaning out of my grandparents's house, when they moved to an apartment. I aquired grandma's cedar chest and all the family quilts. I also found a stack of signature blocks that had not been put together. So last fall I went into their house and sat with a notebook and went through the blocks and had them tell me what they knew about each person that was named. (They are both 96 and still live independently.) They could rip right off about all of these names, there was only one name that they had NO recollection of. The beginning of this quilt came from the Geneseo Methodist Church, a small country church, where they lived for just a few years. The main event of those years was my grandpa lost part of his arm in a corn picker accident, which he still wear a hook to this day.

I was able to take the information given to me and do some research in some historical books from our area and get some info on some of the people. Some of the families had ties to the pioneer families of that area. A bulk of the signatures were from family. She had many extra blocks, so had many members of their family sign and embroider their names. So with the family history my parents had done, I was able to add photos of almost all of the family and background of many of them. I put them together all in a booklet that I have given to my parents, grandparents, the library in Traer, where they graciously let me borrow the historical documents and books that they had for research. It is certainly not a definitive work but it does give a much greater value to our family in this pile of blocks that I have. There are still blank blocks, I would like to have my mother, daughters and me also sign one. There are two signatures of my great-grandmother on them. Both my grandparent's mothers signed them. One I knew, the other had died before I was born. So that is obviously special to me. :)

Hope you enjoy my story. Sheri in Iowa


Subject: bear paw From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:15:05 EDT X-Message-Number: 2

I can't seem to find much about the Bear Paw Pattern. I have a Bear Paw Pattern quilt that is made of mostly brown fabrics that appear to date around 1880. There is no black in the entire quilt. There is one blue block that is of a fabric I am not at all familiar with. Did people "call" it the bear paw in the late 1800's or did it obtain that name later? The design of the quilt is--- 4 bear paws with sashing in between them. Then sashing between other blocks like that. Ironically I got the quilt top out of an attic in a very very old house in New Bern, NC. It was named after Berne, Switzerland. Berne's mascot is the bear, and therefore New Bern, NC has adopted the same mascot. I am just wondering if there is any connection. Did the person maybe make the quilt because of New Bern's town mascot? Or was all of this just coincidental??? I will never know of course, but a little more help on when the pattern was called "The Bear Paw" might at least help me. I am setting up a booth to get rid of "cutter" quilts (ratty & ragged), so I am rummaging among lots of stuff I haven't seen in ages...... I know some people think that no quilts should be cut. Unfortunately the lives of these quilts as bedcoverings are long gone. I think that the quilter would be happy that they went on to be doll quilts, table runners, and placemats. (The Bear Paw quilt top is in awful condition. It is the typical shredding browns, but I don't have the heart to sell it.) Thanks for your help. Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC


Subject: Re: Signature quilt From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> 

I am curious.. The person who said they got good results with color manipulation..DO you remember what color exactly? I am thinking that some different color transparencies might work just as well as the color manipulation on a computer. I know we use color overlays for some children with learning problems. Orange and yellow come to mind the most but I am sure there is more info on the web about this use of color..It might be we could add a color sheet to our box of goodies when dealing with vintage pieces.

Just an idea.. Sharon in NC Who just gave 43 chickens baths today and is on her way to the fair now...VBG


Subject: Re: Signature quilt From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> 

Sharon in NC wrote: > I am curious.. The person who said they got good results with color > manipulation..DO you remember what color exactly?

The piece of printing I was trying to read was blue on white. It showed up most clearly when I enhanced the red/pink spectrum. It would all depend on what colour ink you are working with I suppose.

However, red and green overlays are standard aids when determining colour value, reducing what you are looking at to scales of grey, so perhaps they would be useful. Why not experiment with some cellophane sweet wrappers <G> ?

Sally W


Subject: deciphering writing on quilts From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquiltsyahoo.com> 

First let me thank everyone who forward such great tips on reading faded ink and faded embroidery on quilts. They are really helpful, and as I do have some of the techology, I can't wait to try your ideas! And, it leads me to think it would be good to add a section at the end of my book "Text on Textiles: Words as Design in Antique Quilts" quoting QHL'ers who so kindly shared info.

Second, I apologize for typos in my emails!! I really do know how to type and write, but as I rush these notes out to QHL, which I so enjoy doing, I always feel a little guilty taking shop time 'cause there is so much to straighten up in here...you understand. If I had a computer at home too, I know I would be chatting and corresponding ALL the time.

Third, for anyone coming to NYC, do visit the American Folk Art Museum which has several eye catching exhibits now, though no quilts. The painted furniture is beautiful, and the obsessive compulsive-y outsider drawings are striking. As far as I know there are no major quilt exhibitions in NYC upcoming up. There will be an exhbit of Cy Nelson's gifts to the Museum, which will feature his whitework quilt contributions, This coming weekend has QUILT DAY Saturday with lectures and programs. Museum website is folkartmuseum.org.

And, please all of you-- write the new head of the American Folk Art Museum Dr. Maria (oops-don't recall her last name, contact the museum 212/977-7170) to lobby them to commit their Lincoln Center branch to the continuous display of quilts and textiles for educational exhibitions--every quilter who comes to NYC wants to know where to see such stuff, and there really is no exhibition space devoted to this material. She's been on board some time now and now better able to consider this suggestion.

Laura Fisher


Subject: Simple Green - MSDS From: "Newbie Richardson" 

Dear List, I googled the Material Safety Data Sheet on Simple Green. All it is is a 6% solution of butoxyethanol - also known as Butyl Cellosolve. It does rinse out of fabric completely. Perhaps one of you who are less chemically challenged than I can add to the discussion of it's potential harm to cellulosic fibers? Best to all Newbie Richardson in No. VA where we finally got a smidgion of rain last night ( the first in over 2 months.) Our Dogwoods and Lilac are all dying!


Subject: featherweight tables From: "Steve & Jean Loken" <sandjlokenatt.net> 

Hi all, I do just about all my sewing on a Featherweight. I'm looking for a new table to sew on. I'm using a small desk, but it's too small. I've looked at the tradional tables made for the machine but they're too small as well and not that sturdy. Does anyone have a solution? What I'd love is a big desk like those corner computer desks, but one that doesn't put the machine up too high. Those are already two inches higher than the one I'm using. Is there a newer table with a cut-out for the machine? I Googled but didn't feel like searching several hundred hits without asking for your input. Thanks in advance, Jean in MN


Subject: QHL Signature Quilt From: "Susan Wildemuth" <ksandbcwgeneseo.net> 

Sheri Lesh would you e-mail me off-list. You mentioned Geneseo Methodist Church -- is that Geneseo, Illinois or Geneseo, New York. If it is Geneseo, Illinois I live about 3.9 miles from there.

Sue in Illinois


Subject: signature quilts From: Palamporeaol.com 

In light of the recent interest on QHL regarding signature quilts I suggest that you check out Kim Wulfert site on "signature quilts". It is excellent. I just stumbled on it tonight. Being a collector of signature quilts, I thoroughly enjoyed reading her page.

http://www.antiquequiltdating.com/Antique%20Signature%20and%20Album%20Quilts. html

Nancy Hornbeck and I (& others!) keep hoping that someone will want to do a thesis on signature quilt documenting. Any takers???? Nancy has already developed a wonderful "fact sheet".

I love signature quilts. My interest in genealogy and quilts makes my brain dance with curiosity when I see a signature quilt. Why did they do this? Who initiated it? On & on....

I dream that one day there will be a place for all of us to register those quilts, so that quilters and genealogists might benefit from them.

Off to bed. Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC


Subject: RE: Simple Green From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" 

Good evening, QHLers -

The following is from the MSDS for 100% butyl cellosolveAE (trademarked  name) (or generically ethylene glycol monobutyl ether; 2-butoxyethanol):


Emergency Overview



Potential Health Effects



Causes irritation to the respiratory tract. Symptoms may include sore throat, coughing, headache, nausea and shortness of breath. High concentrations have a narcotic effect.


Causes irritation to the gastrointestinal tract. Symptoms may include nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Toxic! May cause systemic poisoning with symptoms paralleling those of inhalation.

Skin Contact:

May cause irritation with redness and pain. May be absorbed through the  skin with possible systemic effects.

Eye Contact:

Vapors are irritating and may produce immediate pain, redness and  tearing. Splashes can cause severe pain, stinging, swelling.

Chronic Exposure:

Prolonged or repeated exposures can cause damage to the liver, kidneys, lymphoid system, blood and blood-forming organs.

Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:

Persons with pre-existing skin disorders, eye problems, impaired liver, kidney, blood, respiratory or lymphoid system function may be more susceptible to the effects of the substance

Simple Green is only 6% butyl cellosolveAE, so one can assume that the  above is not a personal health hazard. I would think that if you are  sensitive, have underlying health considerations or susceptible, one would take precautions. If it is completely rinsed out (including any colourant and perfume added), I think there shouldn92t be any harm to cellulosic  fibres. The pH of the Simple Green concentrate is 9.5 (per the MSDS) 96 when is diluted per instructions, the pH would drop. This pH wouldn92t be  damaging to cellulosics. Of course, if the water you use to dilute the Simple Green  is hard, has other contaminants, they could be left behind!

>All it is is a 6% solution of butoxyethanol - also known as Butyl Cellosolve. It does rinse

out of fabric completely. Perhaps one of you who are less chemically challenged than I can add to the

discussion of it's potential harm to cellulosic fibers?>


Margaret (Meg) Geiss-Mooney

Textile/Costume Conservator

Professional Associate, AIC



Subject: Roberts Sewing cabinets, with lift From: "Linda Heminway"

Jean asked about a table to sew on using her Featherweight. Jean, I like to use my Featherweight, but also own a Viking as well as a Janome and switch them according to various projects. I have a Roberts Sewing cabinet, mine is called The Ultimate Sew and Serge Credenza. Their web site is here at: http://www.sews.com/furniture/roberts/robtbl2.html By the way, I don't own a serger (had one, hated it, returned it) but I use the extension for all sorts of stuff including a portable ironing board. The best thing about my Roberts cabinet is that is has an automatic lift (available in all of the major brand cabinets as an option) and I can adjust the height of the machine to whatever I feel like it being at the time I am sewing. I find the height changes depending on my project and which machine I have on there. I am easily amused, I must add, and having the electric lift going up and down like a mini elevator with my machine on it never ceases to please me. This cabinet was expensive, but worth every penny to me. I kind of conned my husband into getting it for me last year and I love it. It was my birthday, but also compensation for giving up my sewing room so he could open a home business and have an office. I also love how it folds up and all my sewing "mess" disappears when I want it to. I sew in our bedroom and can be such a slob and this truly helps me to clean up my act. I was able to achieve a good sewing experience with folding tables, under bed storage and have found all sorts of ways to keep my stash and other things available, but out of sight! Linda Heminway Plaistow, NH


Subject: quilt on EBay From: "Quiltstuff" <quiltstuffoptusnet.com.au> 

Hi all, I am not really knowledgeable about US history.. but how likely is it that a Victorian crazy quilt would actually contain fabric from gowns from George Washington's inaugural ball. Did he even have one?


I did raise an eyebrow over the phrase " This damage can be easily restored or replaced by a professional"

Is it kind of like selling the London Bridge?

Just curious

Suzy Atkins Australia


Subject: Re: quilt on EBay From: "Sharon in NC" 

I think they are full of it. I hope no one gets suckered into bidding.

Sharon in NC


Subject: Re: quilt on EBay From: <charter.net> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 8:47:34 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

It's just barely possible that the makers *thought* the scraps were from Martha Washington's gown, but since her actual dress (intact) is in the Smithsonian, I very much doubt that this is the case. This sounds like one of those pious Victorian "souvenirs" of the George-Washington-slept-here ilk.

OTOH, Martha Washington was a quilter (one of her quilts is at the Smithsonian), so she or her daughter could have kept some dress scraps for patchwork....

Karen Evans


Subject: Re: quilt on EBay From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:54:09 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Here is an online picture of Martha's actual gown from the Smithsonian. If anyone can get the seller to send a picture of that particular piece you can verify.. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/inauguration/fashion.html Sharon in NC


Subject: Re: Roberts Sewing cabinets, with lift From: Carol Elmore <celmorek-state.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:33:08 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

I have a Roberts sewing cabinet that I bought many years ago that has a hand lift which works very well. I bought another sewing machine and called them to see if they could make a new template that would fit around the new machine. They had me order it through my local sewing machine dealer. I received it and it fits the machine perfectly. I would assume that they could make a template for a Featherweight if you wanted one. They let me talk to the person at their company who personally cuts them. The beauty of the template that fits around the machine is that you have a flat sewing surface that in my opinion helps prevent fatigue. You don't have to raise or lower your fabric when you run it throught the machine.

Carol Elmore Manhattan KS


Subject: Re: quilt on EBay From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:41:16 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

I emailed the seller and got back more pictures. While it is a beautiful quilt the piece he describes as part of Martha's dress does not seem to match at all in the pictures. I also think part of the embroidery shows a much later date. The costuming on some of the characters seems more of the early 1900's. It will be interesting to see what everyone else thinks.

Sharon in NC


Subject: Another quilt on ebay From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmvyahoo.com> 

There is another quilt on Ebay that prods my curiosity...................................

item # 7354465379.

This item is listed as a "pre-civil war quilt c. 1850".......................it appears to have madders and mourning prints.................this seller usually has really nice stuff, but what makes this a pre-civil war quilt and not a time-span quilt with scraps collected over several decades????????

Just curious in NW Ohio-C. Ark


Subject: Re: featherweight tables From: MargaretFaheyaol.com 

I don't use a featherweight, but have a table I love. It is a computer table, large and had the needed shape of my machine cut out of the top. Now the machine "sits" on the tray intended for the keyboard. The weight of the machine keeps the sliding surface from moving. It is open at the back of the tray so I can thread the cords to outlet and pedal. The knee lifter even fits fine. Tray is wide so I can slip sissors and, oh my, seam ripper next to machine. Only problem is that the edge of the cutout is like a particle board, since surface is white malimite or something ( surface serves faithfully no matter how many times there are coffee drips or worse, wine smudges..wipe off) I think I got the desk at a sale someplace. I keep another table behind it so when machine quilting a large piece the weight is supported.

One suggestion. Good luck.. Margaret


Subject: Re: Simple Green From: "Edith L. Taylor" <etaylorku.edu> 

Dear all:

I'm on digest, so maybe this was already addressed. Butoxyethanol is just another name for ethylene glycol, i.e., the main ingredient in antifreeze. I looked up some other products under this label, "Simple Green" and it's clear that there is nothing 'green' about any of these products. Basically the ingredients are the same as in other cleaning products like Formula 409, etc.

Edie Lawrence, Kansas


Subject: Re: little blue Kenmore sewing machines From: "Alan"

Do you know the make or model? Typing "blue kenmore" into ebay only brings up vacuums. Thanks


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist Http://www.alanrkelchner.com 


Subject: Re: Another quilt on ebay From: "Lorraine Olsson"

"This item is listed as a "pre-civil war quilt c. 1850"

I see it as a beautiful 1880s quilt. No doubt at all that it is later than the 1850s. This is the era that I have most of in my collection, and I would have it in a flash. It is almost identical to one in my collection except mine has a dark brown border instead if the pink.

Cheers, Lorraine in Oz


Subject: Re: Another quilt on ebay From: aol.com 

I was a bit weirded out by all the pink...it didn't look pre-Civil War at all.

Karen Evans


Subject: Buffered Acid Free Tissue From: Gary Parrett <

I was talking to one of the workers at the Historical Society and she was talking about buffered vs. non-buffered acid free tissue. Thought I'd ask the pro's to explain the difference a bit more clearly.

Thankyou, Karen

PS I live just a ways north of Geneseo, NY. It would be interesting to know which one of the Geneseos the signatures came from.


Subject: Re: Buffered Acid Free Tissue From: joan kiplinger 

Karen -- unbuffered tissue has a neutral PH and is used for wool, silk, leather and fur storage, proteins which are sensitive to alkaline.. Buffered contains 3% alkaline to neutralize acids and is used for cellusoics such as cotton, linen, jute, rayon and synthetics.

Gary Parrett wrote: I was talking to one of the workers at the Historical Society and she was talking about buffered vs. non-buffered acid free tissue.


Subject: RE: Buffered Acid Free Tissue From: "kim baird" 

Here's the easiest rule of thumb for the non-professional--DO NOT USE buffered acid-free tissue.

That will avoid any potential problems.

Buffered tissue remains acid-free longer, but it is damaging to protein fibers, meaning leather, silk, wool, cashmere, alpaca, etc. And you can't always be sure what fibers are in your old quilts, so avoiding the buffered tissue is safer.



Subject: mobility scooter cover pattern From: "Merry Endres" 

Hi, and sorry for the cross-post. A friend of mine just purchased a  mobility scooter and wants a cover for it but can't afford a new one.  Do any of you know of a source for a scooter cover, or have an old cover  I could use as a pattern? I know some of you own one of these types of  scooters. Thanks you :)

Hugs, Merry -


Subject: Re: Lincoln Pattern From: "Jeff & Sheri Lesh" 

I am searching for a quilt pattern that I saw somewhere ?? with Abe Lincoln pieced along the left long side of the quilt. I think there were various blocks that filled in the remaining part of it. One of those patterns, I wished I had bought, but did not. I did a search online, but didn't come up with anything like that at all. I was hoping it might ring a bell with someone from this group.

We are doing a trip late this fall going to some civil war battlefields and I thought that might be a good project to buy for during my trip. It I can come up with it.

Thanks for any help in advance.

Sheri in Iowa


Subject: Re: Lincoln Pattern From: "Karan Flanscha" 

Hi, Sheri, Can't say that the Lincoln pattern rings a bell for me... but here is a book that you will definitely want.. 'The Civil War Diary Quilt' by Rosemary Youngs. I pre-ordered mine from Rosemary, and she signed a label in the front of the book and included 3 panels with Lincoln's silhouette to use in one of the blocks. I don't know if you are still on the DJ list, here is ordering info that Rosemary sent to the list today:

Here's the information for ordering the new Civil War Diary Quilt Book Or the Amish Circle Quilt Book. Photographs of the quilts and books can be seen on my web shots pages, go to: http://community.webshots.com/user/rosemaryjane102

These books can be bought through paypal, they are listed on eBay as the following The Civil War Diary Quilt eBay item number 6980328590

The Civil War diary Quilt and CD eBay item number 6980337607

The Amish Circle Quilt eBay item number 6980345047

1. The Civil War Diary Quilt book is available for $22.99 plus $4 postage priority mail, global priority mail $9. You can order a CD with the book, you have to have Electric Quilt to run the CD, the CD is $10. If you order the Civil War diary Quilt book with a CD the cost is $32.99 plus postage. If you look at the web shots, three blocks in the Quilt used the Abraham Lincoln fabric, this fabric will be enclosed with your order to use in the three blocks.

2. The Amish Circle Quilt Book is available for $24.99 plus four dollars postage priority mail, global priority mail nine dollars.

3. If you would like to order both books, your order would be $45 plus postage. Both books will fit in the same envelope.

If you do not like to order through eBay, I will except checks or money order. My address is: Rosemary Youngs 3704 Nicole Court Walker, Michigan 49544

If you have any questions please let me know.

I sat with Rosemary at the DJ gathering in Shipshewana, IN in April. She showed me the cover art for her new book, and I said "That doll looks like Hitty!" The doll block on the cover was stitched by Judy Day. There is a story at the end of the book about a china doll, very touching, and that is the reason for the china doll pattern. The rest of the patterns are pieced blocks. There is a quilt with a dozen china dolls, each stitched by a different quilter and each dressed differently, really neat. She has included excerpts from Civil War era diaries, and biographies of 10 women.

Are you going to Gettysburg on your trip?? Mike & I were there 2 weeks ago. We did a "ghost tour" which I thought was going to be a joke, but it really ended up being one of the neatest things we did. The guide was dressed in a hoop skirt (not technically correct, but it did add to the affect)... and took us on a walking tour (after dark), stopping at various houses & telling us who lived there & what happened to them during the battle. Pointed out bullet holes & even a cannonball in the houses. Lots of "personal" history, which I found much more interesting than the drier facts we got from the auto tour CD (next time, we will go to the National Park Visitors Center first, and hire a live guide who rides along with you). There was a little bit of the 'ghost' thing, but mostly it was history. Let me know if you want more info on that. Found a nice shop on the edge of Gettysburg, too.

Well, I am off to the store, as we discovered there is "no food in the house"! Wonder how that happened ;) TTYL, Karan


Subject: Re: Another quilt on ebay From: Sheryl Till 

Has anyone taken a look at this quilt?


I worked in Lancaster, PA just prior to some of the Esprit collection coming back there so I missed seeing them. Am I wrong or should this quilt be perfect (without repairs) for this price??? It's beautiful but way out of my pocketbook range.

-- Sheryl sctillearthlink.net Love feedsacks? Join me at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feedsack_Memories http://www.laquiltworks.com http://www.thequiltingpost.com http://www.berrypatchproductions.com


Subject: tape maing loom From: "Marcia Kaylakie" <marciarkearthlink.net> 

I recently saw a tape making loom on an antiques website and now have  this bee in my bonnet that i might want one or want to make a working  model to use in my lectures. Does anyone know how expensive these are  and can they be made to work? I am thinking some of our Eeastern  seaboard ladies or gentelymen might know. Please reply privately or see  me at AQSG, if you are going there! Marcia Kaylakie Marcia Kaylakie, AQS Certified Appraiser Austin, TX  www.texasquiltappraiser.com ------_


Subject: mobility scooter/rollator From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:26:24 EDT X-Message-Number: 3

I know this isn't antique quilt stuff so I haven't said anything about it....But....if you can wait, I am writing a book which is filled with patterns for bags, covers, etc. that can fit all types of wheeled mobility items such as walkers and wheelchairs. I hope to have the book out by the first of the year. If you would like to email me privately to ask more about these patterns that would be fine. I actually have 3 books in the works relating to people who have special needs. Off to church, Lynn Lancaster Gorges


Subject: Annc: Quilt Program, Nov 5th, University of Delaware From:

QHL-ers may be interested in this afternoon of presentations scheduled for November 5th, 2005 at the University of Delaware. The event is sponsored by The Alliance for American Quilts (http://www.centerforthequilt.org) and the Center for Material Culture Studies at the University of Delaware (http://materialculture.udel.edu).

Pat Keller berrettudel.edu


The Alliance for American Quilts Presents Quilt History in the Making – A Symposium Saturday, November 5, 1:00 pm Reception to follow, 4:00 pm 101 Recitation Hall, University of Delaware Newark, DE


Shelly Zegart, president and co-founder of The Alliance for American Quilts, “At the Corner of Paradise and Persuasion: The Vision of the Alliance.”

Quilters’ S.O.S. – Save Our Stories interview with Marilyn Henrion, quilt artist, conducted by Amy Henderson, Alliance board member and University of Delaware Art History PhD Candidate.

Patricia Keller, Alliance board member, University of Delaware, History of American Civilization PhD candidate, “A New Spin on Quilt History: Lancaster County Quilts.”

Janneken Smucker, Alliance board member, University of Delaware, History of American Civilization PhD student, “Shopping for Nostalgia: The Creation of an Amish Quilt Capital.”

If you cannot attend the symposium, please join us for a reception and opportunity to see the exhibition QuiltVoices, University Gallery, Old College, 4 pm. See http://www.museums.udel.edu/current/quilt05/quilt-main.html for more information about the exhibit.

For additional information or to RSVP by October 28, please email alliancequiltsyahoo.com or call 302-831-8037.

Directions available at www.udel.edu/admissions/viewbook/visit/directions.html.

Parking available at Trabant University Center Garage. Campus maps available at www .udel.edu/buildings.

Sponsored by The Alliance for American Quilts (http://www.centerforthequilt.org) and the Center for Material Culture Studies at the University of Delaware (http://materialculture.udel.edu).

A special viewing of Quilt Stories by Teresa Barkley, at the Historical Society of Delaware (www.hsd.org) has been arranged for the morning prior to the symposium. Details available upon RSVP.


Subject: Re: deciphering writing on quilts From: "Lucinda Cawley"

Did I miss something? Laura Fisher tell me more about "Text on Textiles." Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Lincoln Portrait Pattern From: Donald Beld

Sherri--the quilt you describes sounds very much like the award winning quilt designed and made by Sharon Malec from Illinois--It is a portrait of Lincoln she designed from the potrait that hangs in classrooms in Illinois and then she placed other blocks as border blocks and it has a flag on it behind Lincoln (I think).

You can contact Sharon, I am sure, by typing her name into your search engine, as she is a rather famous quilter, designer and teacher.

The original Lincoln quilt was purchased by my guild in Redlands, California last year and donated to the Lincoln Shrine in Redlands, California to be part of their permanent collection. (The Redlands Lincoln Shrine has the only U.S. Sanitary Commission Quilt on Public Display in the United States) and has an extensive collection of Lincoln and Civil War artifacts and books.)

But Sharon retains the copywrite on her quilt. Don Beld


Subject: On the road From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 12:15:09 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

Last Friday there were many familiar faces at the Historical Society of Frederick County (Maryland) textile symposium "Common Threads." The program covered Maryland coverlets, samplers, conservation and quilts, with emphasis on items made in or near Frederick County (I think of it as western MD, but I suppose if you live in Cumberland you'd call it something else). Nancy Gibson's talk on quilts was delightful. Her enthusiasm echoed that of the audience. Hazel Carter and I were able to prolong the fun thanks to my "twin-separated-at-birth" Suzanne Cawley who invited us to her home in "Wild and Wonderful" Keyser, West Virginia. 

We spent Saturday at a harvest festival in the town of Moorefield which featured a little quilt show. They exhibited a local collection of antique quilts which had never been displayed before. The quilts which dated from the mid-1850s (at which point the area was still part of Virginia) to the early 20th century. Most interesting were three quilts, obviously from the same maker, which had more repairs than I've ever seen on any quilts. Each of the quilts (Touching Star, Album Block, 9-Patch) dated from the 1850s with extensive (and expert repair) in the 1930s. On the Star quilt more than half of the diamonds had 1930s fabrics appliqued over the original piece. On the other two whole blocks were repaired in the same manner. Each of those two quilts had a triple border of two narrow patterned strips with a strip of the background fabric between. On both quilts 30s fabrics have been appliqued over the original borders all the way around the perimiter. We also saw a fascinating exhibit of vintage clothing (Suzanne is desparately trying to expand my horizons). 

The most interesting item were a child's mourning clothes circa 1890. My special treat, for which I am grateful to Suzanne and Hazel for indulging me, (I am a Presidential site junky in my spare time) was finding Nancy Hanks' (Abraham Lincoln's mother) birthplace. We followed a series of winding and increasingly narrow roads into the hills. The site is isolated (the view is probably much as it was in the late 18th century) and neglected. There's an historical marker and a delapidated log cabin (a reconstruction from the 1930s). I'm off to Denver for AQSG on Wednesday. It's going to be great; AQSG is always my #1 quilt related event of the year. Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Seven pointed Stars From: "Teddy Pruett" <

Hi all - I am trying to find some information on a quilt. It appears to have been made from a 30's die cut kit for a Lone Star or STAR OF Bethlehem - all solids in yellows, pinks, green, lavender. BUT the darn thing has been constructed as a SEVEN point star and appliqued to a piece of solid white background. Backed, joined by machine at the edges, but no batting. The lady who brought it to me purchased the quilt near Fargo, ND, so I immediately thought of the Native American gift quilts and morning star patterns.

Can anyone tell me if there is a significance to the 7 points as opposed to 8? Any idea as to a native American significance? Will be glad to hear any thoughts......and will see many of you in just a few days in magnificent Colorado.

Teddy Pruett


Subject: RE: quilt on EBay From: "Renee Mirazo" 

I notice this seller has no history on Ebay.

Renee Eagle River, Alaska

Hi all, I am not really knowledgeable about US history.. but how likely is it that a Victorian crazy quilt would actually contain fabric from gowns from George Washington's inaugural ball. Did he even have one?


I did raise an eyebrow over the phrase " This damage can be easily restored or replaced by a professional"

Is it kind of like selling the London Bridge?

Just curious

Suzy Atkins Australia


Subject: seven pointed star From: Judy White 

Teddy, I am presently restoring a seven pointed lone star that is indigo and muslin. It was made by the owners grandmother in Germany sometime in the 1880's. The owner is around my age (64). I repieced the center and then appliqued the whole seven pointed star to a piece of muslin. It looks really nice. My helper and I are now hand quilting the star and will do some more hand quilting on the background and then bind it. The owner wants to hang it on her wall. She must have a very large space because this is a large quilt but very beautiful. But to get back to your question of the significance of the seven points - no, I don't have any idea why someone would make just seven.

Judy White Connecticut Quilt Restorer


Subject: book assistance From: joan kiplinger <jkipncweb.com> 

Earlier this year I had a discussion with somebody on this list about creating an index for a book. I lost her email address when my email folders mysteriously went kaput during the night several months ago. Whomever, please contact me privately, and anyone else who has had adventures in creating an extensive index for a book. Need all the help I can get. Sorry for this slightly off-topic post but it's the only way I can yell for help.


Subject: Re: Seven pointed Stars From: Judy Kelius <quiltsptd.net> 

>Can anyone tell me if there is a significance to the 7 points as >opposed to 8? Any idea as to a native American significance?

I've had a couple of 7-pointed stars over the years and my feeling always was that they were not intentional - I think the maker finished the 7 points and realized there was no room for an 8th! I've also seen a couple with 9 points - a similar problem but in this case the 8 would not come together. Call me a party pooper if you will, but this is more believable to me than someone actually planning to make a star with seven points! It would take some advanced calculation to figure out the template for a seven-pointed star. - Judy



Subject: RE: Seven pointed Stars From: "kim baird" 


I seriously doubt your star is a Native American quilt. The local Lakota make so many star quilts, I think they can do it in their sleep. They don't mess up and have room for only 7 points.

Kim in Fargo


Subject: yellow fabric From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:18:39 -0400 X-Message-Number: 14

I tried bidding on the prettiest quilt today. Didn't get it, but I  still have a question. The setting blocks were of a peachy- yellow  fabric, until you get right on top of it, and then I realized it was  printed, line after line. It sort of looked like a double yellow. But  then, it was 1860-1870, and I was wondering if maybe is was a bouton  d'or.


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist Http://www.alanrkelchner.com


Subject: Quilt history books w/patterns From: 

In the past several years, it seems a number of writers of quilt history books have been asked to include patterns, drawn from quilts discussed in text. This practice seems to have produced a mixed reaction among those who are primarily interested in cultural or quilt history. Many see the trend as a dilution of substance or as a little condescending, assuming one who would read such a book could draft his or her own patterns. Recently a friend remarked she thought it was just a way to justify more books.

I've wondered what others make of this. Is it a response to an existing market demand on people who purchase this kind of book? An effort to expand the book's market to include quilters only marginally interested in the history of quiltmaking?

And is there evidence, anecdotal, I would assume, of the policy's having enlarged the audience for material/quilt history?

Lazy in Louisiana, where the temps hover in mid-90's, Gail Ingram


Subject: book writing From: "Alan" 

I have a question for the authors on the list. I was laying in bed the  other morning, when an idea for a book crossed my mind. How do I start?  and how do I find a publisher? Iguess this probably out to be answered  privately.


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist


Subject: 7 point star quilt From: "Judy Anne" 


Go to http://www.native-american-star-quilts.com/gallerypg3.htm and scroll down to the Cherokee Seven Point Star quilt with information. She also sells a kit.

The Cherokee flag has a central seven pointed star on it circled by 7 more seven points stars. Seven represents the 7 clans of the Cherokee along with the their seven holidays and seven sacred ceremonies. (this from http://users.aol.com/donh523/navapage/cherokok.htm)

Judy Anne


Subject: Quilt history books w/patterns From: "Judy Anne" <anne_jworldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:35:45 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2


It bugs me too. I'd rather have more history. It would be interesting to know if this practice really helps sell more books. Hopefully they get more quilters interested in quilt history.

Judy Anne


Subject: Re: Lincoln From: "Jeff & Sheri Lesh" <jeffleshnetins.net> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 06:30:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

Don, thanks for the suggestion. I did send her an email, but by your description, I don't think that hers is the one. This was a quilt pattern that I saw, not a wallhanging size either. I absolutely can not remember where it was I saw this. Any one else have any suggestions?

Thanks for your help. Sheri in Iowa


Subject: book writing From: Debby Kratovil <kratovilhis.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:10:11 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

Alan asked a very good question that shouldn't be left to be answered privately. He asked about the best way to approach writing a book. I think there are several on this list who've had the same "Walter Mitty" fantasies. I've been publishing for 12 years (in quilt magazines) and have had a book published by AQS (Amerian Quilter's Society). I've been asked this question and the best advice I can give (and give all the time) is this:

Visit the websites of various publishers. I assume that Alan wants his book to be quilt related. I suggest you visit AQS, C & T, Martingale/That Patchwork Place, Quilt Digest Press, Breckling Press - for a starter. Search for the Writer's Guidelines. Most, if not all, publishers have them online. Print them out and then follow them! There are certain criteria that must be met. You DO NOT need to write the book first! Just a proposal (and the guidelines give a clear path to what should be contained in the proposal). Then send it in. Include a good number of pictures. And if you get a "pink slip" rejection letter, don't despair. I've had many. In fact, one major publisher rejected my book only to be picked up by another!

But be forewarned! If you go to any quilt shop, book store's quilt/craft section or see the recent AQS book catalog, there is a glut in the quilt book market. The major publishers put out between 10 and 20 books EACH annually. The key is to find a niche that hasn't been filled or a new twist on an old theme. I enjoyed writing my book and will probably do another sometime. The earnings aren't all that great (the publisher gets the lion's share of the $$), but it is quite gratifying to say that you've got a book in Border's or Barnes & Noble and you didn't self-publish it! Hope that helps. Debby

PS - I know there are several authors on this list and if there's anything I've left out, please let us all hear it. -- Debby (with a "y" and not "ie") Kratovil Quilt Workshops & Programs http://www.quilterbydesign.com


Subject: Re: book writing From: <charter.net> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 8:19:11 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5

I can only add that Alan should look at a few issues of Writer's Digest or The Writer for tips on writing a good query letter, proofreading, format, markets, and so on. A friend of mine was in publishing for nearly twenty years and said that more books were shot down because of bad formatting, proofreading, and so on, than almost anything else.

Good luck!

Karen Evans


Subject: quilt history books & patterns From: Debby Kratovil 

Sorry to post twice in one day about writing! But this interests me. Gail posed a question about quilt history books including patterns and whether or not this dilutes the substance of the subject matter. Or if this is done just to lure in more buyers. First off, a publisher won't touch a book proposal if they think it will sell less than 5,000 copies, which is their imaginary number for breaking even (I was told this by the senior editor of a major quilt book publisher). I've also fielded questions from various quilters, pattern designers and other quilt related subjects as to why certain publishers won't pick up their wonderful ideas. It's those darn numbers again! I buy a LOT of quilt books in any given year. I own about 35 quilt history books (I know that's not much compared to a lot of folks on this list) and I'm not considered a quilt historian. I buy books with patterns in them. I love to recreate some of the blocks and patterns, etc. I honestly believe that there can be a happy marriage of the two and if you lure in a casual quilter by offering patterns, he/she will become more educated about the historic content by reading all that surrounds the particular pattern or quilt. They CAN co-exist. If the difference between picking up a quilt history book proposal comes down to whether or not there can be patterns in the book - would you rather have your book published and in book stores or just sitting on your computer's hard drive for your eyes only?

And what's my own Walter Mitty dream when it comes to quilt history? To draft a lot of the patterns I see in the old applique samplers! I am a pattern designer first and foremost and I have come to be pretty good with the pen tool in Adobe Illustrator (it's what enables me to draw the curves and flowers and wreaths, etc on my computer using my mouse). As I've redrafted several of the old pattern sets from the 1930s, I would love to get ahold of the wonderful quilts in museums and recreate those patterns for ALL quilters. A picture is not good enough for me in a book. I want to see the patterns. I think most quilters want to be able to make some of those patterns.

So, I think that's the take on this from a publisher's viewpoint. They don't believe there would be enough of a book sold if it didn't contain a few patterns. Debby -- Debby (with a "y" and not "ie") Kratovil Quilt Workshops & Programs http://www.quilterbydesign.com


Subject: Re: quilt history books & patterns From: 

At the same time, there are the serious history books, like Kiracofe, Orlofsky, Colby, and so on, that don't contain a single pattern. However, those are very much a niche market, and the authors and publishers know it before they start.

I know that 5,000 copies is the break-even point for fiction in hardcover (it's higher in paper)...is it really that high for non-fiction? I'm surprised, since most non-fiction doesn't sell nearly as well as fiction.

Karen Evans


Subject: 7-arm star quilt From: Anita Loscalzo <aloscalzyahoo.com> 

In our World War II exhibit, there is a quilt called the "Gold Star Mothers' Quilt" with a 7-arm central medallion from the Pioneer & Historical Society of Muskingham, Zanesville, Ohio made around 1945 by Mrs. Earl E. Schaeffer and others of Zanesville, Ohio in tribute to their sons and other soldiers from their area who died in World War II. It's a puzzle also to us as to why the 7 arms.


Anita B. Loscalzo, Curator New England Quilt Museum 18 Shattuck Street Lowell, MA 01852 -


Subject: George Washington danced here From: Anita Loscalzo 

Funny that should come up -- on display now in our Permanent collection Room drawer display case is a "Diamond in a Square" silk patchwork quilt made around 1850 that was based on a pattern in Godey's Lady's Book. The quilt appears in Lenice Ingram Bacon's AMERICAN PATCHWORK QUILTS in plate 17 opposite page 69. Our records state:

"The central square is said to be a piece of the gown worn by Sally Crowinshield when she danced with President George Washington at a ball in Salem given in his honor in October, 1789. Research done by the Essex Institute verifies that she was at that ball."

Other squares have scraps of fabric that appear to have come from the same era, and possibly the same dress, but we have to research it further.


Anita B. Loscalzo, Curator New England Quilt Museum 18 Shattuck Street Lowell, MA 01852 -


Subject: Re: Blue Kenmores From: Pat Kyser 

I've gone back through recent messages and do not find a model number for the "little blue Kenmore." Are you talking about the Steam Fast ZZ-401 Mechanical Sewing Machine? It is all I can find with a Google search. I want a simple machine for a grand daughter, and this may be it. Would appreciate any in put and opinions. Thanks, Pat in Alabama


Subject: Re: Quilt history books w/patterns From: "Sharon in NC"

Gail I am of the persuasion I had rather not see the patterns with the book of history. I think a much more viable option to the writer, lover of history and buyer of quilt patterns is to produce a small supplemental to the book of the patterns or for the writer to reference places where the patterns can be found. This allows the writer to have an income from both groups of purchasers. Allows the historian to not be inundated with duplicate patterns ( this happens more and more frequently it seems) and allows someone who is a quilting novice or just simply prefers not to take the time to draft their own version to obtain the patterns. All have their chosen media in hand. I also find those who purchase books for patterns prefer a slightly different format than someone who is reading a book for pure pleasure. I would love to have a plastic comb bound book of patterns for some of the history books but hate this type of binding in my research and reading books. They don't hold pages for the extreme long term well and they don't seem to travel as well and a regular glued binding. They do however work great for quilting because they stay open and if I need to reproduce a template they are much easier to lay on my copier.

JMO Sharon in NC


Subject: Rocky Mountain Quilt Museum From: "Lucinda Cawley" 

Is anyone who will have a car at AQSG planning a visit to the Quilt Museum on Thursday morning? I'd love to get there, but the shuttle from the hotel doesn't start till 11 (altho the Museum opens at 10) and I'm worried about getting back for the WWII study center at 1 p.m. Cinda shamelessly begging on the Eastern Shore


Subject: comments From: "Charlotte Bull" <charloumo-net.com>

Comments Re 2 Topics 1. Patterns being included in Quilt History Books That does NOT sell a book to me. I want just research & history. I would  accept a small sketch of a block as added info, but I do not need  patterns for quilts. There are too many pattern books already. And, yes,  I can draft my own. But I'll bet their inclusion is to attract all  possible buyers. The only real advantage is that a pattern buyer might  then become hooked on pattern history! Didn't some of us get hooked in  that way?

2. Writing Books Doesn't AQS still offer a guide for possible authors? They used to. You  might check their website. Some magazines also offer guidelines for  articles. 30 years ago, in another lifetime, I was asked by publishers  to write a book after they read a magazine article or listened to a  speech. I messed a possible career up by declining after several books  because the writing took away much too much of my time from my new  passion.: Quilting, of course! I did keep writing magazines articles,  but switched topics. Much easier and quicker and a good way to discover  IF you've got it!

I do know 2 excellent quilt book authors who told me NOT to get back  into writing as their writing had negated the creation of more quilts  since each book took over 1 year to complete & get published and then  they had to travel & teach in order to sell the printed book. A  professional wilderness photographer told me the same thing. Another  discovered they hated being "edited".

I believe that writing must come because that creative urge overwhelms  you until you simply MUST write - just as some of us must sew or design  or teach or buy fabric or attend shows. OR Read Quilt History Books! So  get up, get a pad of paper & a pen and scribble down some ideas.  Discover your Inner Needs! It's okay if it is just a Day Dream or a  Night Mare! (Very Big Smile!)

But I'll be eager to see what the REAL Quilt authors on this list have  to say! I rather think that the best NEW solution might be to write,  self publish & sell via your own website! One or two authors I know are  happy doing it that way. But I do suggest getting started by writing an  article for an appropriate quality magazine or a Letter to the Editor of  a magazine or even a guild newsletter! So Try It! cb


Subject: Re: 7-arm star quilt From: "Sharon in NC" 

I may be reaching here but the military is considered to have 7 reserve branches : Army National Guard Army Reserve Marine Corps Reserve Navy Reserve Air National Guard Air Force Reserve Coast Guard Reserve

There are 7 stars in the big dipper

7 has always been considered a "magical number" so the reference could be a large variety of things..

I am pretty sure there is a direct link to the military during that time period of the 7 branches but I will have to ask hubby and that maybe a few days. We are in the middle of fair week here and keep acting like ships passing in the night..lol..

Sharon in NC


Subject: Re: 7-arm star quilt From: <charter.net>

Well, seven is considered a lucky number in many folk and magical traditions (the seventh child of a family is supposed to be unusually lucky or have psychic powers, for instance). It's the number of the Seven Heavenly Virtues and the Seven Deadly Sins. And it combines the number of the Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) and the Matriarchs (Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah) in Jewish folklore, and the Trinity and the Four Archangels in Christian folklore.

And that's just European folklore. I'm sure there are tons of other associations for the number outside of Europe...

Karen Evans


Subject: Re: 7-arm star quilt From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:50:15 -0400 X-Message-Number: 16

You might want to do a little checking on some of these references.It might be a simple recognition of the local unit they all served with.. http://www.vetshome.com/military_corps_patches_history_1.htm VII Corps2 Worn from: 28 April 1944 - 15 April 1992. Red, white, and blue are the national colors. The seven-pointed star and the roman numeral seven indicate the corps' designation.

Campaigns: World War I, World War II (Normandy, Northern France, Rhineland, Ardennes-Alsace, Central Europe), Armed Forces Expeditions (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait).

http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/sound-recordings.html 1942, April 28. President Roosevelt, fireside chat on the Seven-Point Economic Stabilization Program: "The price for civilization must be paid in hard work and sorrow and blood." 34 min. at 3.75 I.P.S. 48-329

You might want to check to see if they served with an Australian group or in Australia since they developed a 7 point star on their flag during that time I believe (someone will correct me here if I am wrong).

I would definitely look into their service history in the area as a beginning point.

Were there 7 countries that formed the alliance against Hitler?

Like I said I will ask hubby next time I see him. Being a retired military guy and history buff he can be a wealth of military knowledge.... ..lol.. Sharon in NC


Subject: Re: 7-arm star quilt From: <charter.net> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 14:01:54 -0400 X-Message-Number: 17

The main countries allied against the Axis were Britain, France, Russia, and the United States. About forty other countries eventually joined the Allies. I don't it was ever exactly seven, alas.

Karen Evans


Subject: Re: 7-arm star quilt From: "Janet O'Dell" <janettechinfo.com.au> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:58:09 +1000 X-Message-Number: 18

Sharon in NC wrtoe: >>>You might want to check to see if they served with an Australian group or in Australia since they developed a 7 point star on their flag during that time I believe (someone will correct me here if I am wrong).<<<

The 7-pointed star represents the Australian Federation, formed in 1901 with the federation of former British colonies. Here is a link (scroll about halfway down the page) to a quilt made by my local guild in 2001 (the Centenary of Federation in Australia): http://www.notyq.com/2001Exhibition.htm

Here is another link to our national flag featuring the 7-pointed star: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/au.html

HTH Regards Janet O'Dell Melbourne, Australia


Subject: Fw: book writing From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:22:08 -0400 X-Message-Number: 19

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> To: "Quilt History List" <qhllyris.quiltropolis.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [qhl] book writing

Well, it's starting to look like a lot of work <g>. This will be a strictly historical story, small volume, about the quilting bee my grandmother belonged to, and the ladies who belonged.I'm going to have to search out the ladies, check with the church they met in. But I plan that it will be a series of small stories - much like that book about Tennessee quilters.

Alan >


Subject: Re: Quilt history books w/patterns From: Mendofleuraol.com Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:20:30 EDT X-Message-Number: 20

Coincidentally before reading this entry, I purchased a used book at an antique mall today that focused on quilts from the Smithsonian. Twelve of the quilts were duplicated from the collection, an edition that was published in 1995. I am not sure of earlier publications that have followed a similar trend, but I suppose ten years is enough time to allow for similar formats. I am also uncertain how the evolution of historical information and interpretation of antique quilts has grown over the years, but I think increasingly it has been on research and findings combined with duplicate or inspired patterns. I honestly think that the people interested in quilt/textile history would rather purchase these books without the extra patterns, and the book would still reach a strong and viable market. I personally do not find the inspired patterns all that appealing, but then an antique quilt is just what it is...a gem by itself.

Phyllis de Vries


Subject: Re: book writing From: Sandra Millett <smillettsbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:02:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Alan:

I've read most of the replies to your question. As a quilt book author (3 published and one I'm marketing, plus a children's book and historical novel in the works and I freelance to newspapers and national magazines and teach and lecture about writing), I surmise from your questions that you know nothing about writing or submitting. First, get the publisher's guidelines, and go on-line to see the list of topics covered. With an historical story, you should also look at other publishers--check out Writer's Marketplace.

As far as locating a publisher--it's much too early. Write the proposal, chapter outline and a key chapter. Adding relevant photos and a pattern or two will expand and enhance the story. Then put everything into proper format (books are available on this). Write a query (cover letter) that is a major marketing tool to hook an editor. If the editor asks for it, send the proposal and always include an SASE for its return. Then gird your loins for rejection. Your book has to fit into a niche that is not covered by a publisher(s). To write is to learn to accept rejection. It's all part of the business.

If I can be of further help, contact me direct. Will be glad to help. Sandra Millett Quilting the Savory Garden smillettsbcglobal.net

Alan <alanalanrkelchner.com> wrote: I have a question for the authors on the list. I was laying in bed the other morning, when an idea for a book crossed my mind. How do I start? and how do I find a publisher? Iguess this probably out to be answered privately.


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist Http://www.alanrkelchner.com


Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 03, 2005 From: "Virginia Berger" 

> 1. Patterns being included in Quilt History Books > That does NOT sell a book to me. I want just research & history. I would accept a small sketch of a block as added info, but I do not need patterns for quilts. There are too many pattern books already. And, yes, I can draft my own.

I have a friend that owns a shop and she always says that while she can draft the pattern, she hates trying to calculate the yardage so she'd rather buy a simple pattern then draft it herself. I rather like calculating the yardage and often change the size of a quilt even when I'm using a pattern.

Virginia in Iowa who is looking forward to putting faces with names at AQSG in Denver this week!


Subject: Quilt history books w/patterns From: adi hirsh <adamroninetvision.net.il> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:22:50 +0200 X-Message-Number: 3

Hi all, I, for one, am all for it. The mix is not all that new - The Quilt Engagement Calendar Treasury, by Nelson and Houck, dates to 1982, while Jenkins and Seward's The American Quilt Story is from 1991. Other examples for patterns in quilt history books include Marilyn Walker's Ontario's Heritage Quits (1992) and Woodard and Greenstein's marvelous Crib Quilts and Other Small Wonders (1981). Even the revered Colby included in her Quilting 5 appendices on quiltng techniques, and detailed drawings of quilting patterns, that need only be enlarged. I do not think ready-to-use patterns detract from the academic value of a book. They certainly do not make a good book out of a badly written one. Personally, as a quilter, a quilt-lover and a collector fof quilt history books, I buy whatever is published on quilt history, with or without patterns. I also draft my own patterns - but if a published pattern in a book draws someone enough to buy the book, and discover an up-to-now dormant t aste for antique quilts and their history - all I can say is, Bravo. Just my 2 cents' worth Ady in Israel


Subject: Re: Quilt history books w/patterns From: Sally Ward <sallytattersntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:59:51 +0100 X-Message-Number: 4

It is a question of balance.

The Quilters Guild of the British Isles have a new publication, their first since Quilt Treasures in 1995. It is called 'Contemporary Quilts, Heritage Inspiration' (http://tinyurl.com/a23kb)

When I first heard about it I didn't quite know what to make of the proposition. I've long looked for a publication about their heritage collection (over 300 items and counting) so while this was a welcome step I sighed when I heard it was to include new quilts, and possibly patterns. But I was told (authoritatively) that this was the only way to get the publishers interested.

In the end the author/editor Bridget Long was pretty wily <G>. She managed to get in a lot of information on and excellent photographs of items from the heritage collection, and text on the history of quilting in the UK. The new quilts pictured are not direct patterns, but modern (dare I say 'art') quilts by a variety of quilters who have drawn on the heritage quilts for inspiration. The creators do not give verbatim instructions, but describe how they worked up their ideas from the old quilts, mostly using modern techniques. Interspersed with the text on the new quilts are boxes of information in different quilting styles.

Of course I'd have liked a book that thick *just* on the heritage collection, but since a deal had to be struck I think they did pretty well.

NAYY (not even a guild member <G>)

Sally W


Subject: break even in book selling From: "Andi" <andi0613iowatelecom.net> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:24:58 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

Re: "I know that 5,000 copies is the break-even point for fiction in hardcover (it's higher in paper)...is it really that high for non-fiction? I'm surprised, since most non-fiction doesn't sell nearly as well as fiction."

In his book, "Damn! Why Didn't I Write That: How Ordinary People are Raking in $100,000 or More Writing Nonfiction Books & How You Can Too!," Marc McCutcheon reports on Publisher's Weekly figures about the differences between selling fiction and non-fiction. "Of the 50,000-plus books published every year, only about 3,500 are novels." Then he says, "Because publishers spend over $30,000 to launch even a small book into print, they must be assured they can sell from 5,000 to 10,000 copies to recoup their investment and make a small profit. Most large publishers, in fact, won't even touch a book unless they think they can sell at least 15,000 copies, preferably in the first year." His focus is nonfiction and he consistently makes the point that publishers wouldn't bother with 46,500 nonfiction titles a year vs. 3,500 fiction titles if there wasn't profit in it for them. Fiction best sellers may get glamorous press, but non-fiction authors make the lion's share of the money in the writing biz.

Everything Debby covered about finding writer's guidelines and good writing resources I echo and teach my writing students. Be aware, however, that books about how to sell your writing, write a non-fiction proposal, etc. are in themselves huge profit-makers <g>.

Self- and web-publishing are no longer the venues only of those who couldn't sell their proposals to the big boys. There are strong market indications that big publishers are happy to troll those waters and save themselves the trouble of initial marketing efforts (and wading through proposals). If they like the way a self- or web-published book is doing, they're happy to make a purchase offer. Savvy writers may decide to take this route first to save lots of time waiting for agent, editor or publisher reactions to an idea and get on with the business of selling their work directly.

As for whether writing a book is a lot of work, of course it is, but for those of us who write for a living, well, plumbers think plumbing is work, too!

Andi in Keota, Iowa


Subject: Re: Quilt history books w/patterns From: "Beth Davis" <bethdan533frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:01:59 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

I have a couple comments regarding quilt books vs. historic books. When I was asked to write a catalog for the exhibit in the museum that I volunteer at, it was an awesome responsibility. I was given a very limited time frame (about 2 months). There was a very limited budget involved and so although I wrote over 100 pages, it was edited down to 20 pages (not including the pictures). I can say that I found the editing process slightly (!!) painful-but as long as I didn't take it personal, it was interesting to see what the editor decided to keep and what she thought was pertinent to the target audience (museum goers, rather than quilters or quilt historians). The actual printing job was down by a local printing company-although the museum did check out the possibility of going with the ‘print on demand’ services available.

We did not include patterns with the book, but there was already a pattern available for purchase of the most unique quilt in the collection, the "logo quilt" as it was described. The curator asked me about a follow up of patterns for the other quilts, but as many are based on traditional patterns, I didn't pursue it-although it might be done later. The question is asked though by people who come to the exhibit, check out the book, about why patterns aren’t included with some people turning down the purchase because there are no patterns. But I don’t know what the percentage is of this happening. Could also be that the person wouldn’t have bought the book anyway?

Because the book was funded by a grant-the money made on the book is profit to the museum, so there is no break-even point and so the pressure of meeting any minimum quantity is negated. Not to say that I haven’t felt pressure to do what I can to get the book recognized (thanks to such wonderful people as Lorie Stubbs and Kim Wulfert!!)

I can say that this has been a really exciting time and I am so honored to have been offered this opportunity, but as Charlotte mentions that authors that she knows says that it does affect the time you have for doing the thing that got most of us to this point-quilting! I have to agree with this. But that said-I wouldn’t traded this past year for anything! What a ride it has been!

Regards, Beth Davis ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Quilt history books w/patterns From: 

In order to self-publish, I think you have to know your market.

John Flynn publishes his own books. His John Flynn's Step-by-Step Feathered Sun doesn't at first seem like a history book. Then you find 5 pictures of painted buffalo robes and a nineteenth century Mennonite star quilt, 6 profiles of Native American quilters, information on the giveaway ceremony, a brief history of the Native American star quilt , and an essay on Native American quilting from an historical perspective by Roger Clawson. (And John's books are spiral bound which I like.) Granted, this book is primarily a how-to book, chock-full of digrams, templates, students' quilts and instructions. But the history is there also.

John teaches, and sells his book to his students, that's his primary market. Apparently his approach works because he makes a good living at what he does.

So the combination of history and how-to can work.


Subject: Rocky Mountain Quilt Museum From: Judy Knorr <jknorroptonline.net> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:27:26 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

Cinda, If you don't find someone with a car to get to the RMQM, you might want to check the bus schedules. I was at the museum this past July and met three women from PA who had taken a train cross country to Denver for their vacation. They heard about the museum and also QNM with their quilt gallery. They took a bus to Golden so they could visit both. We were on our way to Utah so had our car and I didn't ask for details as to which bus or buses they took, but they seemed pleased with themselves that they got to see the quilts without much difficulty! Judy Knorr


Subject: Re: Quilt history books w/patterns From: Sheryl Till <sctillearthlink.net> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:20:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

I think it's a trade-off these days. Consumer dollars are in high demand so publishers look for ways to make new books desirable. The fact that I can imitate in my own way some of the designs is an inspiration for me. Therefore, I consider the patterns to be a plus. If including patterns is what it takes to draw someone into learning more about quilt history, is that a bad trade-off?

My favorite quilts are from the 1930's-1940's which I realize are probably not considered to be of historical importance...but....I did buy a quilt from the 1800's last year. I also find myself being drawn to civil war quilts so the circle of interest widens.

For many quilters, myself included, the love of quilt history didn't begin without first learning how to quilt. I was not the least bit interested in history when I was a new quilter. The journey has been an evolution and I find myself becoming more and more interested in older quilts and their provenance. Quilt history books with patterns give me the best of both sides. I can learn "about" quilt history and at the same time learn "how" to make them.

I'd like to say thanks for all the knowledge freely given on this list. I don't know enough about any of this to be of help but I do appreciate the opportunity to learn.

-- Sheryl in south Louisiana where clean-up after the hurricanes continues. Love feedsacks? Join me at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feedsack_Memories


Subject: why history publishers include patterns From: Laura Fisher

When books on antique quilts include patterns for making your own, publishers do so to increase sales to two separate audiences--history buffs, and quilters. While quilt history people probably wouldn't be in the market for books with patterns, quilt makers might buy history books that include patterns they can use or modify. That's why I asked QHL people who might draft patterns for future books when we are ready for them; I've kept the names of those who replied, and will be in touch once we choose the examples. Nowadays, the market for quilt pattern books is muich larger than the market for quilt history books alone.

And,book buyers will get some historic information in the bargain, whether they want it or not!. Hate to make such a blanket statement but........ when I set up a booth at some of those Great American Quilt Festival Shows in NYC and thousands of quiltmakers came through, it was surprising how few visitors had knowwledge of, or seemed interested in learning more about, what preceded their own efforts. Visitors were craftspeople or artisans or needleworkers only, interested in seeing a pattern usually to copy or modify, and few seemed to want to learn more about antique quilts. Sorry.



Subject: Quilt History vs patterns From: <chrisajetlink.net> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 12:18:48 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11

<<If including patterns is what it takes to draw someone into learning more about quilt history, is that a bad trade-off?>>

It seems most of the responses are agreeing with that, and I am no  exception.

Perhaps what isn't being said is that those who are mainly interested in  quilt history do NOT want to trade off the number of pages devoted to  quilt history, the number or quality of photos devoted to antique  quilts, or the cost of the book, being higher if more time, effort and  materials are needed to cover the patterns.

If all else were equal, then it really doesn't matter much, but is it  equal?

I have two walls of books shelves devoted to quilting. One wall is  history and the other wall is patterns, and the other aspects of  quiltmaking. So space is important to me and I would rather a history  book skip the patterns if more books can fit on my history shelf wall. I  forget about those that are slowly being pushed over to the other side  of the room!

Kim Wulfert www.antiquequiltdating.com


Subject: Re: AQSG Quilt Museum ride From: Charles Woodford <haqgalenalink.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1970 18:35:38 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12

Hi Cinda and others,

I am planning to go early to the Quilt Museum on Friday morning. I am a vendor so need to get back by 1:00 and was wondering if I could pick up some passengers to join me in going to the Quilt Museum on Friday morning (not Thursday because I won't be lurching in with my two humongous suitcases until Thursday afternoon).

Anyway, please contact me tomorrow, or at the seminar if interested.

Barbara Woodford


Subject: Publication/quilt history From: Gail Ingram <gingramtcainternet.com> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:34:04 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13

Reading responses to Alan's and my very different queries regarding quilt history publications/publication prompts yet another question on my part: Has the study of quilt history reached the stage where an independent journal of serious scholarship is needed?

AQSG certainly addresses the need with "Uncoverings," and publications in the older academic fields of cultural geography/material history/folklife often include studies that are relevant to quilt history.

But would another journal, one with high standards of scholarship, be desirable?

That question does not address the issue of practicability, of course, just desirability.

In Ecclesiastes Solomon said 'of the making of many books, there is no end,' and I know scholarly journals cannot do the work of booklength studies.

Yet, they can add considerably to the extant knowledge in a field. They can provide venues for more tentative or in-progress studies, which often generate productive discussions within the community of scholars, for instance. And it is no secret they provide the means and encouragement to those wishing to embark on the study of a large body of information, one piece at a time. And sometimes they afford a place where seemingly "small" discoveries may be presented, discoveries that might be precisely what another student has been seeking.

I know everybody is heading to Denver in the morning, but maybe someone will note on his or her calendar this subject and take it up next week.

Gail Ingram


Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: Gail Ingram

Hate to make such a blanket statement but........ when I > set up a booth at some of those Great American Quilt Festival Shows in NYC and > thousands of quiltmakers came through, it was surprising how few visitors had > knowwledge of, or seemed interested in learning more about, what preceded > their own efforts.

I've come to believe this is true, though I still find it difficult to imagine such folks.

Yet, isn't this so very American now, this lack of interest in history--period? I've said it on this list many, many times: somebody somewhere needs to get irate about the failure of our school systems 1) to offer and to require enough history courses in high schools so that students will understand the context within which their lives occur and 2) to staff those courses with professional history teachers, not coaches who also pick up a class. Even the best students are ignorant of their national or civilization's past.

In a classic essay, "Tradition and the Individual Talent," T.S. Eliot suggests that all real creativity results when the individual experience cross-polinates with the communal experience. While Eliot focused on literature, his point is applicable to any art. The quilter or painter who does not know and understand the history of his or her art form courts faddism. Yes, one can paint portraits without a knowledge of anatomy and the great portraits of the past. But what depth do they have? What complexity? What universality and, yes, originality? It is no mystery why the Renaissance happened where it did: that is where old texts and arts and new men mingled for a moment in time that created an explosion called Western Civilization.

Is that what happened with the Quilt Revivals---women working with new colors and materials and steeped in old designs produced something genuinely new and original?

From Louisiana, where some creativity is badly needed, Gail


Subject: Re: So sad From: Xenia Cord <xenialegacyquilts.net> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:19:03 -0600 X-Message-Number: 15

Gail said:

<Yet, isn't this so very American now, this lack of interest in history--period?>

To which I can only give anecdotal evidence. At a recent quilt event a woman asked me the age of an antique quilt. "It's from the Centennial," I answered. "Oh!" she said, "...when was that?"

Xenia (also heading to Denver)


Subject: The study of history From: <suereichcharter.net> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:23:26 -0400 X-Message-Number: 16

It also saddens me, when I hear about the lack of history taught to our young people. Over these past three months, I have found the study of quilt history actually healing. About two years ago, I began to research WWII era quilts in a serious way. The WWII Memorial dedication, and the 60th Anniversary of the ending of the War peaked my curiosity about quilts made from 1941 to 1945. Over the past year, I have written and lectured about wives and mothers of WWII, and their wartime quiltmaking. I have been struck by the similarities and differences between WWII and our current War on Terror (of which I am tragically intimate.) Blue Star mothers, Silver Star Mothers and Gold Star Mothers are part of that lecture. Never did I believe that someday my fate was to be all three! It may sound strange, but, studying about the mothers of WWII gives me solace and comfort. The knowledge that women of another generation gave up their children for freedom and still prevailed, helps me to face each day. Yes, history is a powerful teacher. As quilt history researchers, we are helping to preserve a small part of the past. Carry on. sue reich


Subject: Re: AQSG Quilt Museum ride From: "Lucinda Cawley" <lrcawleycomcast.net> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:02:19 -0400 X-Message-Number: 17

Thanks Barbara, but I have to go on Thursday because I'm on the downtown Denver tour Friday. Cinda


Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: Gloria hanrahan <gloriaak.net> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:31:56 -0800 X-Message-Number: 18

I can't see that the history curriculum offered is lacking. What I know from my own personal experience is that I think you need some age before you can appreciate a historical perspective. This isn't just my opinion, but that also of my cousin (who has a Ph.D. in US History.)

We have an Alaskan Native history curriculum here which starts in third grade and continues through high school. The history of the First Nations peoples have long been ignored, so the perspective of history being better taught to previous generations is flawed if you are among the ignored groups of people. Let's remember that everyone doesn't come from the same place, from a historical standpoint.

At ages 14-18, I just could not get a grasp of time. I was well into my 20's before I could begin to put the pieces together. I know as a parent and teacher, I am satisfied with the curriculum in the classes offered to my kids. I don't really expect them to have much understanding until they are older and have more life experiences.

While quilt history is certainly of interest to me, my mom and grandmothers were quilters and had no interest in the subject. I really don't see this as a character defect.



Subject: Re: AQSG Meeting From: "JESSICA VAUGHN" <vaughn8047msn.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 22:38:43 -0600 X-Message-Number: 1

For those of you heading to Denver, safe travel and look forward to  meeting some of you at seminar. I will be assisting manning the book  sales room. Please stop by and introduce yourselves........

Jessica M. Vaughn Rocky Mtn Quilt Museum Golden, CO  vaughn8047msn.com<mailto:vaughn8047msn.com>

Make yourself familiar with the angels, and behold them frequently in  spirit; for without being seen, they are present with you. - St Francis  de Sales - ------_NextPart_001_0AB3_01C5C934.600F3960--


Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: Gail Ingram <gingramtcainternet.com> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 00:05:50 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

Gloria wrote

> While quilt history is certainly of interest to me, my mom and grandmothers > were quilters and had no interest in the subject. I really don't see this > as a character defect.

Not knowing history is not a character defect. It is, however, a decided disadvantage in a republic, where a knowledge of history protects one and enables her to make more fully informed decisions. Back to Lord Acton: he who forgets the past is doomed to repeat the past.

Numerous professional surveys have shown a steady and generally alarming decline in the knowledge of history on the part of American high school and college students. Any review of the professional literature will turn these up. Moreover, many popular studies (not to mention the activities of Jay Leno and David Letterman) support these.

Having been married to a history professor for forty years, I saw for myself how drastic that decline was. It is not at all uncommon today for a college sophomore to believe that Shakespeare and Abraham Lincoln were contemporaries.

There are no grounds of which I am aware in developmental psychology or cognitive studies to suggest average students at or above the fourth-grade level lack the capacity for understanding time relationships. In fact, it is at that time precisely that they begin to grow most curious about the world beyond them, both in terms of space and time.

A review of national curricula, which are based in a knowledge of cognitive development, will show this is the grade level at which historical understanding is assumed to be available to average students.

As with many areas of learning (e.g., music, language), I suspect there is a critical window of opportunity for activating this ability. If students are not introduced to historical thinking and a basic sense of historical chronology at that time, they will never be as able to master the discipline as they would, had that window of opportunity been used. This is not a matter of anecdote or speculation, but a matter that has been carefully explored and the results published even in such popular magazines as TIME and NEWSWEEK.

Nor is it merely rote learning of which I speak. It is understanding that must be initiated at that time.

In most American public school systems and, I would bet, most private school systems, only one history course is required in high school. The 'social sciences,' a beloved misnomer in America may supply the other social studies requirements. That includes psychology, economics, and a variety of other non-historical or governmental studies.

Thus, most American students graduate from high school so woefully unprepared with facts and historical thinking skills that the university basic history courses have become thoroughly diluted and grade inflation routine.

I do not deny pockets of enlightment exist. I only say they are pockets and that the national ignorance of history is a matter of repeated record.

Not to have a shared knowledge and understanding of our national past is particularly dangerous in a nation of immigrants. I find it no accident that the current ugly contentiousness in the civic and political bodies coincides with the rage for diversity alone, not e pluribus unum---the unity that joins the diverse, the common denominator--but only 'pluribus,' our differences.

As a Southerner, I know what it means to be left out of written history studied in school. The legitimacy of studying the past of my own region was not something I encountered until graduate school, and the discovery literally changed my life and vision. Yet, how could I have really understood regional politics and culture outside the context of national and international politics and culture. To focus only on our local histories makes us provincial and less able to function productively outside the range of our localities.

What if John Adams, one of our nation's most devoted and informed historians, had studied only the history of New England and, perchance, England? Or Thomas Jefferson, only the history of Virginia and England or France? Those men's assimiliation of the history of Greece and Rome and Europe provided them materials for crafting a system of government suited to a new nation that declared itself united. It permitted creativity.

So far as quilt history goes--and I believe it is a legitimate academic discipline, allied both with the study of political and cultural history---I did not suggest the quilter who was uninformed about it and uninterested in it was either unusual or lacking in virtue. Yet,for many of our foremothers, quilts were a means of recording history and establishing a family's identity. They were also living history books. Earlier generations of quilters might not have been academicians, but many were historians.

Long way of saying, I'll stand by my concern for the general lack of historical knowledge in America today.

Gail Ingram



Subject: Yet another REAL B.A.Q. From: "Newbie Richardson" 

Good evening all, I had the pleasure of evaluating a previously unknown BAQ (dated 1847) this afternoon. I went with Alden O'Brien and Virginia Vis of the DAR Museum to catalogue the names and where the design elements fit in the known groupings of BAQ. It will go up for sale at Weschlers Auction House, here in DC, on October 22. It is on their website - though I have not pulled up the pix. It was being used as a moving pad when Gentleman A was helping Gentleman B clear out a house. Gentleman A noticed it and was told by Gentleman B to take it if he wanted. So he did - not having a clue either! So then Gent A consigned a bunch of things ( I think he may be something of a picker) including the quilt. The auction house took a quick peek, saw a nice album style quilt but had to get the catalogue out to the printer so did not really LOOK at it. Consequently it has an estimate of $6 -$8,000. When the auction house really looked at it, bells and whistles went off - as they should have! It is in excellent condition - not dirty or stained. It has many blocks that look like both Designer 3 and Designer 4 - but no "Mary Simon" blocks. It could surely keep my feet warm at night! This is the third " unknown" BAQ that I have come in contact with in the last 4 months....."Textiles: The Last Frontier"! The auction will be live on Ebay and the quilt is scheduled to go up around 5:30 pm E.D.T. on the 22nd. Sorry, I don't have the web site - but if you Google Weschlers it should pop up. They have been in business since 1880 - and are a very reputable firm. I know the owners well. Have fun all of you going to AQSG - I blew my wad in France! Best Newbie Richardson in dusty, dry Northern Virginia.



Subject: Re: Yet another REAL B.A.Q. From: "Quiltstuff" <quiltstuffoptusnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:39:53 +1000 X-Message-Number: 4

Hard to believe that a quilt that elaborate could be even thought of using as a moving pad. So glad it will end up somewhere where it is appreciated


> I had the pleasure of evaluating a previously unknown BAQ (dated 1847) > It was being used as a moving pad when Gentleman A was helping Gentleman B > clear out a house.


Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 04, 2005 From: Donna Keating

For the person(s) looking for the "little blue Kenmore machine," just go to the Sears.com website and search under Kenmore sewing machine. It's the Mini Ultra 3/4 size.


Donna K.



Subject: new BAQ From: "J. G. Row" <JudyGrowpatmedia.net> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:34:50 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6


The BAQ is on page 54 (of 59) lot 540 in sale 1291

Have a wonderful time in Denver at AQSG, and tell all us stay-at-homes what you saw, did, and heard.

Judy, now in Flemington NJ aka The Ringoes Kid judygrowpatmedia.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net>

It will go up for sale at Weschlers Auction House, here > in DC, on October 22.


Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: "Candace Perry" <candaceschwenkfelder.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:46:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7

Brava, Gail, I concur. As a museum curator with academic background in ancient and American history, let me say that back in the day when I was a confused high school student, the history courses that were offered in my H.S. ...well, to indulge my taste for contemporary vernacular, sucked. I was merrily teaching myself Egyptology at home while getting Cs in these useless classes. I would say that my high school was effectively able to alienate me from the study of American history, and I would not return to it until graduate school, when I found that I had to learn my country's history to be a museum professional here. As a parent of a high schooler and a middle schooler, I find that social studies in our school district is not so bad, and my children seem to be learning...but in HS for my eldest is taking something known as "Humanities" which is apparently an amlgam of English literature and history. I actually thought reading Romeo and Juliet, and exploring Shakespeare's historical context, might be marvelous...but so far it seems that my son has been making comparisons between Zefferelli's (sp?) R & J and the more recent version with Leonardo DiCap. So we learn at home. At least my children are going out in the world knowing a little bit about everything, from Rasputin (a fave around my house)to Reagan. I dunno. My ongoing crusade for quilt history is ensuring that provenance and does not get separated from the quilt. Candace Perry


Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: "Beth Davis" <bethdan533frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:04:39 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8

I was recently told in passing conversations, something that I found rather amusing. Coincidently, this was from curators at two different local museums (one is a museum geared toward mainly children's interests). Both of these museums work with area schools, with a large amount of their business coming from school field trips. They both were told that they are to gear their programs not to HISTORY but to math or to language arts. I found this to be quite puzzling and really a bit disturbing. Here are museums that filled with such wonderful objects that just beg to be inspected, observed and perhaps generate an interest in further research of a topic. Sure - math and the other educational subject matter can be worked into this, but does it have to be at the expense of learning the why and how of events past to the present?

Beth Davis 


Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: Gloria hanrahan <gloriaak.net> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:10:43 -0800 X-Message-Number: 9

Beth said, "They both were told that they are to gear their programs not to HISTORY but to math or to language arts.

The testing pressure we are under in these areas is pretty intense. History is not tested in our benchmark tests or the high school exit exam. Funds, lots and lots of funds are riding on these test scores.



Subject: Re: new BAQ From: Judy Kelius <quiltsptd.net> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:22:42 -0400 X-Message-Number: 10

Wow! Imagine that being used as a moving blanket . . . but I can believe it. Many people don't realize quilts have any value! While I was working at a quilt museum, some workmen came in to fix the elevator on a day it was closed - they saw a quilt laying on a table nearby and took it and spread it on the floor to protect the elevator's floor from being scratched! You can imagine my reaction when I saw what they were doing - they couldn't read the signs "Quilt MUSEUM"? DUH! When I explained to them that the quilt they were using was valued at thousands of dollars, they were flabbergasted. (Thank goodness we noticed what they were doing quickly enough so no damage was done.)

Do others think the estimate for the BA at Weschler's - $6000-$8000 - is too low? It looks in good condition from the photo.

At 10:34 AM 10/5/2005, you wrote: >http://www.weschlers.com/asp/search.asp?pg54&ps10 > >The BAQ is on page 54 (of 59) lot 540 in sale 1291



Subject: Re: why history publishers include patterns From: "Candace Perry" <candaceschwenkfelder.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:01:00 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11

If you want to know the truth, it's because we poor institutions are looking for anyway possible to expand our audiences. (although I'm not sure if Beth was saying the schools told the museums this, or if it was an internal decision) History isn't doing it. We have attracted the most school visitation in the past with our holiday programming -- which is "fun" ...we try to whack 'em with some of the good stuff when we have them in our clutches. Forgive me if I sound cavalier. We recently hired an educator with a marvelous art background, instead of history, because we needed fresh approaches to our school age programming. I'm thinking we need to have some sort of Reformation video game, you be Martin Luther or Zwingli or Schwenckfeld, something like that...who can recruit the most believers... Candace Perry who keeps soldiering on Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center -----Original Message----- From: Gloria hanrahan [mailto:gloriaak.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:11 PM To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] Re: why history publishers include patterns

Beth said, "They both were told that they are to gear their programs not to HISTORY but to math or to language arts.

The testing pressure we are under in these areas is pretty intense. History is not tested in our benchmark tests or the high school exit exam. Funds, lots and lots of funds are riding on these test scores.



Subject: Re: So sad From: "Alan" <alanalanrkelchner.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 17:27:03 -0400 X-Message-Number: 12

Absolutely. SF City council has decided that they will not allow the USS Idaho to moor permanently in the docks. Sort sighted in my view, because of the $$ they're losing in tourist revenue (it was to become a floating museum). I saw Councilman Tom Ammiano in one of The Daily Show's spots where they try and make someone look stupid. He needed no help at all. He said that SF was anti-war, and that it would only remind us of Iraq. Puhlease.

My father was watching, and he first looked at me and said *he's* a councilman?? The he cracked that he was an embarrassment to gays everywhere. Only in SF.

Almost make me embarrassed to be a liberal.


Alan R. Kelchner Fiber Artist Http://www.alanrkelchner.com ---


Subject: Discussion of Quilt History From: "Lorraine Forster" <circusvuelycos.com> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:54:18 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13

I seem to be working backwards. First, I enjoy history of most any kind, then I inherited a Grandmother's Flower Garden quilt from the 30's and now I am just beginning to learn how to quilt, I hope (don't know whether I will have the patience required). My question is what do you all consider are the top 5 or so best books in regard to Quilt History. Also, I wonder if anyone has ever done a "Quilt History Timeline"?

Typing in, what should be beautiful real soon (fall foliage), Pittsburgh,Lo Circusvue

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Subject: Re: Discussion of Quilt History From: Pat Cummings <patquiltersmuse.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 14

Dear Lorraine:

There is information about a quilt history timeline at the International Quilt Study Center website: http://www.quiltstudy.org/resources/timeline.html

Pat Cummings www.quiltersmuse.com


Subject: Re: Seven pointed Stars From: "Sandra Mackay" <mackayslverizon.net> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 18:32:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

"Hi all - I am trying to find some information on a quilt. ...BUT the darn thing has been constructed as a SEVEN point star ..."


I asked a similar question several months ago. I was also told by several people that they thought that the original plan for the blocks had been for 8-arms, but due to miscalculation they ended up with room for only 7. I was also led to an American Indian source.

While I have a few blocks where a mistake was clearly made as the blocks are not flat or symmetrical, I also have acquired many blocks that lie flat and were made by the same hands. I think that these were purposeful 7-pointed stars. I think that 5 of purposeful 7-point star blocks that I have originated in New England in the second half of the 19th century.

I haven't found much to help explain the significance of 7-points. However, I have found out that some law enforcement groups use a seven-pointed star in their badges - so there has to be some sort of meaning associated with such a star.

I'm interested to see if anybody else on the list can contribute.

Regards, Sandy Mackay


Subject: Re: 7-arm star quilt From: "Sharon in NC" <patchworksecrets2earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:48:32 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

I finally managed to ask DH about the 7 arm star.. He thinks it went to a 7 point star in commemoration of Pearl Harbor. It was the home of the 7th fleet which was in port during the bombing by the Japanese. Everything but the carriers and submarine escorts were destroyed. Since this is what got the US involved in WWII it makes good sense. ALSO Pearl Harbor was Bombed on December 7th 1941.

Sharon in NC


Subject: Good book From: CAROL GODREAU <imaquilter2sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 06:50:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 3

I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting this, please feel free to let me know.

I just finished "Ahab's Wife" and what a really nice book it was. What amazed me most was all the little quick takes on quilting that were dispersed throughout the book, which could be the reason It perked my enthusiasm. All kidding aside, I have found that many books have connotations to quilts or fabric and art.

Thanks for letting me share. Carol


Subject: uncoverings From: "Velia Lauerman" <velialivehotmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:22:15 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

Get a hold of Uncoverings AQSG beginning 1980 and help yourself to an open door to views from today's and bygone quilt enthusiasts. Persistence breeds patience. Keep on keeping on with your sewing and learning . History is made exciting with real stories from real people through quilts. Velia


Subject: Ahab's Wife etc. From: "J. G. Row" <JudyGrowpatmedia.net> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 00:03:53 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

I read "Ahab's Wife" a few years ago and really enjoyed it as well.

Another wonderful novel that you might enjoy is "Call the Darkness Light,." by Nancy Zaroulis.

You can read the reviews by readers at this web site.

It is the story of one mill girl in Lowell Mass.in the early part of the 19th century; it is unforgettable as fiction and written with a rare historical accuracy which imparts a feeling for time and place.

Judy, now in Flemington NJ aka The Ringoes Kid judygrowpatmedia.net


Subject: Baldwin Ledger - Gish, Hagerman and Ericson From: "Louise" <ltiemannstny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 21:31:42 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Hello, does anyone have copies of the quilt articles published in the 1980's or so (1983-1985 confirmed). They were written by Enola Gish, Betty Hagerman and Helen Ericson. They took turns writing the weekly quilt column. The weekly paper was published in Baldwin City, Kansas (in Douglas County).

I'm not sure when these areticle started or when they ended, but I was viewing some microfilm at the library today for the 1983-1985 time period. Just about every issue had some quilt related article, along with photos of recently completed quilts and vintage quilts the ladies has seen at local quilt happenings.

If anyone has any information on these, please contact me off list. Thanks, Louise


Subject: Upcoming quilt show in Maryland From: "Anne Datko" <datkoamsn.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:41:28 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

Indian Summer Quilt Show, sponsored by Nimble Fingers Quilters of Rockville, MD, will be held Oct 15 (10-5) and 16 (10-4) at the Home Arts Building, Montgomery County Fairgrounds. There are about 270 entries in the show, 16 + vendors, a raffle quilt, boutique, etc.

The Nimble Fingers raffle quilt, which was made by 100 plus members, received a ribbon at the 2005 National Quilting Association show and at the Sotterly Plantation, Md, show. A picture of the raffle quilt and directions to the fairgrounds can be found at www.nimblefingers.org.


Subject: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: Elpaninaroaol.com Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:19:12 EDT X-Message-Number: 2

Good afternoon all,

Yaaayy it is finally here! A couple of times before I have mentioned a really unusual quilt I got at Festival last year- and this weekend I received it in the mail (layaway, and done just in time for Festival again in 3 weeks lol.)

In any event, this is about the neatest anything I have ever seen, but I am having a very hard time finding out more about the pattern itself, what meaning it might have had, or anything else to fill in the gaps.

Here are two photos I just took- one from afar and one close up of one of the 9 identical blocks,



On page 9 of The Quilt Encyclopedia Illustrated I found the only other design even close to this quilt. That piece is indicated in the book as "Pine Tree, Coxcomb, and Four-Leaf Clover made in the mid-nineteenth century." No other info in the book.

My quilt has a small paper tag attached with the following information- all phrases written here and there on both sides of the tag,

75 x 75 Applique 9 Block circa 1870s Red Green Cheddar Cherry Quilt or Rose & Pine Will be in one of the Vintage Quilt issues Beth Hayes Barrow (might be Borrow, Borron or Barron- hard for me to read the name)

In any event, I would be very grateful for any information anyone can share telling me more about this unusual pattern (cherries or pines for example) to help me complete the story.

I had not seen the backside of the tag when I bought this (too excited looking at it) and so I am assuming Vintage Quilt is a magazine. I will start that search today!

Take care and thanks for any help,

Tom Reddick.

PS- Have fun at Festival all who are coming! I can't wait :)


Subject: Re: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: "Carroll" <rl.carrollverizon.net> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 15:42:37 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3

Wonderful quilt!

In Barbara Brackman's book Encyclopedia of Appliqué there's 3 similar patterns, the closest is called "Foundation Rose and Pine Tree" and she references the Shelburne Museum.

In the Shelburne Museum "Quilts" book, the quilt is shown on page 55 with the same name, the date is "third quarter 19th. century". photo is b/w.

There are some differences in the quilt patterns, the most noticeable is that the Shelburne quilt does not have the 4 large leaves, just the smaller thinner leaves. Also the center rose is (apparently) one fabric where yours has 2.

You may not find an exact match for the pattern, because this was early when it comes to published patterns.

Laurette Carroll Southern California

Look to the Future with Hope

> having a very hard time finding out more about the pattern itself, what > meaning > it might have had, or anything else to fill in the gaps.


Subject: Re: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: kathie holland

Vintage quilts is a magazine published by Primedia......McCall's quilting, QNM, etc. http://mccallsquilting.com/legacy/v505_vintagequiltspreview/ Beth Hayes happens to be the editor of these magazines.... wonder if she sold the quilt? thats ironic that her name is on the tag. Kathie



Subject: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: "Pat Sloan" <patpatsloan.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:52:28 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1

I can tell you about the tag on your antique quilt!

I used this quilt (now yours) to do a 'then & now' version for McCall's!! The Beth Hayes Borrow mean...Beth Hayes BORROWED it for the magazine.

Here is the 'scoop'.

One year when I was at the Williamsburg VA show Beth called me and asked me to go to Cindy's booth & 'Pick' a quilt I loved (and I LOVE THIS ONE)..to 'remake' for the magazine. Then Cindy sent the original to McCall's Quilting for photography. They sent me a photo & the templates. I made a single block wall hanging that is a pattern in a McCall's issue. The shapes are the exact size of the original quilt. Let me go find the issue....

We called the remake Cherry Cordial and it is made with my fabric line, Winter Blooms. So you'll need to get a back issue of McCall's Quilting, December 2004 to keep with the quilt information! http://mccallsquilting.com/curiss/1204_cherry_cordial/

Pat Sloan Home of the FREE Block of the Month.....Where are your shoes & socks.....and.....Remember it's 5'oclock somewhere! http://www.QuiltersHome.com sign-up for my yahoo group- Pat-Sloan-Quilts


Subject: Re: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: Elpaninaroaol.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:51:32 EDT X-Message-Number: 2

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Wow- you have all outdone yourselves!

This is wonderful and I thank you all for the information so far. I will go find the issue of that magazine, and thanks too for the Brackman reference- apparently I did not search that book quite hard enough to find the similar applique patterns.

Take care,



Subject: Seven Pointed Star From: QuiltsRIaol.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:10:06 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

Many years ago I had a seven pointed star quilt that was signed and dated early 1800's. I had it hanging on the wall of my shop for months before an engineer came in one day and pointed out that it only had SEVEN points. I had assumed it had eight points as it laid perfectly flat.

Cathy Smith


Subject: No, not off list, please From: "Steve & Jean Loken" <sandjlokenatt.net> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 13:44:11 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

Louise, I actually would love to hear more about this quilt series, and I suspect that many of us would, as well. Kansas is the heart of quilt country, and I'll bet they had fascinating quilts and stories to share. Jean in MN


Subject: Re: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: Pat Cummings <patquiltersmuse.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 5

Wow, Tom! You've got a beauty there. I briefly thumbed through Brackman's Encyclopedia of Appliqué and came up dry.

Then, I went to my personal stash of photos that I've taken at quilt shows over the years and found just what I was looking for, a similar quilt. The antique quilt in question was displayed at the Westminster, VT show a few years ago. The quilt has an orange/red color flower center, then four quadrants of circles starting with five green, then four red, three green, two yellow, and a final singular red, as best I can see from this old Polaroid shot.

There is a straight stem and two leaves on either side, in sort of a half crescent shape x 4 times (for each quadrant.

The picture you mention on page 9 of Quilt Encyclopedia Illustrated has just two sets of circles that are opposite each other, a set of four green heart shape petals in the center, and opposite swags of what appear to be rose and/or tulip motifs. It looks to be a large scale design from the photo.

All three quilts have similar colors and treatment of the circles or dots. The Encylopedia quilt version has more rows, begins with three red circles and ends with a red circle.

Comparing all three quilts, they look to me like a variation of the same theme.

Yours is a wonderful quilt and well worth waiting for, you lucky dog! Wish I had a more definitive answer for you, such as a specific name or source of origin. I can bet maybe some other smart person out there will have the answer.


Pat Cummings www.quiltersmuse.com

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Subject: Washington memorabilia From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:53:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6

Dear list Per the thead about Washington/First ladies fabric scarps. Washington memorabilia was a big deal during the General's life. Folk were constantly dropping by Mt Vernon and asking for souvenirs. Mrs Washington got very tired of giving away souvenirs! The point is that it is entirely possible that scraps of Washington clothing were incorporated into quilts and other made up decorative textiles. There are several documented artifacts in museum collections. In one related family collection, there is Gen Washington's imported Indian printed cotton banyon ( dressing gown) with a huge hole cut out of the back - it was given away in small pieces as rememberances. Short of having reliable provenace, as has the NE Quilt Museum. the only thing would be to test the fabrics for age and twist of the fibers and dyes, etc. Newbie Richardson



Subject: Re: Please tell me more about this quilt :) From: "Carroll" <rl.carrollverizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:11:55 -0700 X-Message-Number: 7

Hello Tom, The pattern I thought was the closest is number 13.13 in Brackman's Appliqué book. I have posted a photo (of the photo) of the Shelburne quilt and description to the eboard. Not exactly the same pattern but pretty close.


look under the "quilts" tab - Foundation Rose and Pine Tree.


for the Brackman reference- > apparently I did not search that book quite hard enough to find the > similar applique patterns.


Subject: AQSG From: Jennifer Perkins <qltrstoreharlannet.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:54:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8

Is anyone home yet from AQSG? Were you able to get out before the big snowstorm hit? Concerned!! Jennifer in Iowa


Subject: Re: AQSG From: "JESSICA VAUGHN" <vaughn8047msn.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:41:17 -0600 X-Message-Number: 1

I'm home, but I live in SE Aurora, a suburb of Denver. There weren't  many planes going out today, so I hope everyone has a safe trip home.  AQSG was awesome. It was my first time, I met the most wonderful people  and I'm already planning for 2006! As part of the local planning  committee, I was too pooped to pop, but I tried to keep up with  everything going on. The Silent and Live auctions were to die  for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bought way too much stuff and I'm supposed to be  leaving on vacation tomorrow. Headed southwest, away from the snow,  going to Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Grand Junction,  Glenwood Springs and back home. 

Jessica M. Vaughn Aurora, CO vaughn8047msn.com<mailto:vaughn8047msn.com>

Make yourself familiar with the angels, and behold them frequently in  spirit; for without being seen, they are present with you. - St Francis  de Sales -


Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 10, 2005 From: "Virginia Berger" <cifbanetins.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:12:27 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

> Is anyone home yet from AQSG? Were you able to get out before the big snowstorm hit? > Concerned!! > Jennifer in Iowa


I got home from AQSG late yesterday afternoon. We drove and left Sun. after lunch in rain. I know that at least one lady that was going home to UT was talking about waiting before she left. Sounds like it was worse in the mountains west.

AQSG was wonderful! Everyone is so friendly and approachable and it was great to put faces with names I had seen on this list!! Sorry I can't write more--need to catch up with my regular life!!

Virginia in back in Iowa!


Subject: from Pepper Cory on behalf of Quilts for the Coast From: "Pepper Cory" <pepcoryclis.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:24:26 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

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October Update on Quilts for the Coast (Hurricane relief quilts)

Hello quilting friends-Here's the latest on the Quilts for the Coast  project. Right now about 300 quilts, the majority children's or smaller  lap quilts, have arrived at The Quilted Butterfly in Morehead City, NC.  More quilts for the Gulf Coast victims of hurricanes Katrina and Rita  are arriving daily but it's never too late to help with hurricane  relief. We are especially in need of full-size (adult) quilts so here's  your chance to still be part of this worthwhile effort that aims to get  quilts to people, right where they live and right when they need it.  Think of it--a warm quilt just in time for Christmas!

Quilts for the Coast is the brainchild of Patti Brown (owner of The  Quilted Butterfly) and Debbie Woods-Tyer (Sewing Solutions-Pfaff of New  Bern NC). They've joined forces to put out the word: make a quilt for  the Gulf Coast hurricane victims and your good works might be rewarded  here on earth! If you make a quilt and turn it in to Quilts for the  Coast, your name is entered in a "thank-you" drawing (which Patti and  Debbie stress is NOT a contest). A small quilt is entered once and a  full-size quilt is entered twice. "Entered for what?" you ask. Either a  Pfaff Quilt Expressions 2046 sewing machine or the Pfaff Hobby Grand  Quilter with Inspira Quilting Frame-your choice! (And Debbie and Patti  are paying for this out of their own pockets.) The selected quiltmaker's  name will be drawn December 2. So it's not too late to do the right  thing-please help us make Christmas a little brighter down on the Gulf  Coast. Send as many quilts as you like-remember, these quilts are going  to real people, not just to the storage room of a large organization!

Make sure your quilt(s) get shipped to arrive by December 1!

The Quilted Butterfly Sewing Solutions 110 Little Nine Road or 1505 S. Glenburnie Rd. Morehead City NC 28557 New Bern NC 28562

Patti, whose hometown used to be Waveland, MS (the true Ground Zero  where Katrina came ashore) and Debbie thank you! And if you want to see  pictures of almost unbelievable devastation the national media hasn't  shown you (apparently more obsessed with the post-hurricane  flood-damaged New Orleans) go to gulfcoastnews.com and look at some of  their archives.



Subject: Washington Memorabilia - trying again From: "Newbie Richardson" <pastcraftsverizon.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:04:18 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4

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Dear List Don't know why my first post did not go through - let see if this works. I was commenting on the thread of Washington memorabilia that has popped up in silk quilts, etc. recently. Gen. Washington and Mrs. Washington were cult figures during their lifetime. They were constantly being pestered by folk "dropping in" at Mt. Vernon - and Mrs. Washington got very tired of giving away tea cups! After his death, some of the extended family sort of cashed in on his fame and did indeed "sell" or give away as souvenirs all kinds of scraps, locks of hair, etc. Depending on the proveneance ( ie which side of the family) the items may or may not have been genuine. There was a famous - now notorious - auction held in the late 1890's by his great-nephew in which all of the items were fake. Museums are still trying to sort that mess out! One museum I have consulted with has an Indian cotton printed banyon ( dresssing gown) which we believe was Gen. Washington's - it has good provenence, right side of the family, etc - with a huge square cut out of the back - the fabric was cut up into small squares for souvenirs! So while it is entirly possible that silk scraps made it into commemorative quilts in late 19th c - there is no way to tell if they are "real" without testing for type of silk, twist, dyes,etc. Remember, most of our "filiopietist" organizations ( DAR: decendents of folk who fought in the Revolutionary War, Colonial Dames: direct decendents of signers of the Declaration of Independence, etc). Many of our original preservation societies were started in the 1880/90's after the Centennial when there was a backlash of patriotism and "we were here first" against the huge Eastern and Southern Euopean migrations into the US. But Mt Vernon was rescued from ruin in the 1850's and Gen. Washington's own officers formed the Society of the Cincinatus in the 1790's: Direct decendents of officers under his command. Lets just say, he was bigger than Elvis! Newbie


Subject: AQSG Denver review - long From: karenquiltrockisland.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:53:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1

AQSG Denver was incredible! The Denver Planning Committee did a SUPERB job - thanks to the co-chairs, Janet Finley and Mary Ann Tavery!! The opening night was great fun with a couple dozen of us out on the dance floor doing our best to Line Dance -- some more successfully than the rest of us! The Live and Silent Auctions were FANTASTIC - thanks to Jan Thomas and Lori Stubbs and their committee! (I had to take a whole extra box almost the size of my suitcase on the plane with me!) Jessica Vaughn and Carol Born, thanks for all your great work with the AQSG Bookstore! (And for “moving” all those Great American Quilt Revival documentary DVDs that QHF was selling! They sold like hotcakes.) The staff of the Rocky Mt. Quilt Museum not only showed us a great time at the museum, but most of them were also on site at the seminar doing all kinds of jobs -- like that fantastic exhibit that Martha Spark, Cindy Brick and their committee hung in the lecture hall at the hotel. Thanks also to Artie Johnson and Brenda Ames and all the other members of the Rocky Mt. Wa Shonaji Quilt Guild who volunteered to cover the Registration Table and Hospitality room -- and also for ferrying some of us over to Red Rock Community College where their guild had an exhibit hanging. Judy Zigliniec put together a great selection of Study Centers and Bobbie Aug a great selection of Roundtables! Connie Nordstrom and Cindy Hamilton kept the Show & Tell moving along at a good clip while the AQSG members shared some INCREDIBLE quilts. None of us will EVER FORGET Jan Thomas’s reaction to a quilt that Julie Silber shared!!! What an unbelievable co-incidence and story! (I am going to run out of superlatives pretty soon!) Jan was so moved she couldn't’t talk for crying. (Jan or Julie, please share that quilt story with the list! Also, whoever bought the "Sayings" quilt at the Live auction, please share that story with the List!) The tour I did of QNM and RMQM was wonderful – thank you Pat Moore. (Missed the Red Rock and lunch part of the tour due to some business meetings.) I had dreamed of visiting QNM’s headquarters ever since they moved into that building in Golden and opened their gallery some 11 or 15 yeas ago. It was such a pleasure to meet Mary Leman Austin, Vivian Ritter (22 years with QNM - 2nd only to Mary Austin in years of service); Jan Magee (11 years total, I think) and Lois Verna (6 years?), plus Brenda Groelz of Quiltmaker. (Jane Crutchfield, are you ready to tell the world about that fantastic QM quilt you are making?) Oh yes, the VENDOR’S! Well, there went some more money thanks to Jan Sears and her committee! And last but hardly least were our two LIVELY auctioneers - Julie Silber and Laurel Horton!!! I know there were other committees who were more behind the scenes – like publicity and volunteer coordinator (Barb Gardner) and audio-visual (Glenda Brown and Scotti McCarthy) as well as the other tour leaders whose tours I did not take -- Noreen Raphel, Moya Hansen, Timmie Stewart, Jeananne Wright and Diane Schlagel! (Did the tour group that went up into the mountains on Sunday get back okay? <g>) I hate to leave anyone out but I know I probably have!! If there was any "shadow" in our "sunshine" this year it was that three of the founding members were unable to make it: Cuesta Benberrry, Bets Ramsey and Joyce Gross. We missed you HUGELY and salute you each for the legacies you have creaated and for your dedication to AQSG all these many years!

On to Conneticut!

Karen Alexander


Subject: Re: AQSG Denver review - long From: "Beth Davis" <bethdan533frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:12:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Hello Karen and all, The Estes Park/McGregor Ranch tour on Sunday, in spite of the problems-such as the bus was over an hour late (!!) was fantastic. The weather wasn't cooperating either, with rain and low clouds. Noreen more than made up for it with her colorful stories of the history of Colorado and Estes Park. I think that most of us snoozed on the way up (a little tired from those late nights, perhaps?) but by the time we arrived at McGregor Ranch, was raring to go. It is a real working ranch, handed down through the family since it was established (date?) by Muriel's husband, who died, leaving Muriel to run the ranch with her three sons (hope that I got that right). The museum, which is normally only open during the summer, is a display of pioneer western ranch life and equipment. There was an amazing assortment of quilts there, which we checked out and tried to give the curator of the museum a little more information on. And then we can't leave out the elk herds that we searched for and finally found, peacefully grazing on the near-by school lawn.

We ended up at the local Senior Citizen Center, where we enjoyed a very nice meal with great cookies for dessert. We then was treated the most wonderful experience with Jean Ann Wright's entertaining stories. We almost could taste the dust of the Oregon Trail! Her collection of quilts that she shared with us was the best, and I have such a appreciation for the work that Jean Ann does in researching the quilts and their provenance.

I held on to the wonderful memories as we sat for 4 hours in the plane on the runway while the snow piled up!! It was a long trip home...

Beth Davis ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Exciting news from The Alliance for American Quilts From: "Karen Musgrave" <karenmusgravesbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:57:49 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

The Alliance for American Quilts has announced that it will move its offices to Asheville, North Carolina in summer 2006. The Alliance has been invited by HandMade in America, a nationally recognized craft and economic development organization, to join them in new offices currently under construction in downtown Asheville. The offices are part of Buncombe County's effort to encourage the further development of Asheville as a premier center for craft and design. As a national organization devoted to the dynamic field of quilts, The Alliance is a highly prized partner in this endeavor.

There is a rich tradition in quilting of making do with little, of taking small scraps and combining them ingeniously to create a gorgeous artifact whose magnificent whole transcends its humble parts. The Alliance has done this all along by being nimble and creative, forging itself into a sophisticated and practical organization that serves the quilt world in many ways. "Limited funds, the sweat equity of our board, members and supporters, and pure passion have fueled The Alliance for the last ten years and brought us to the accomplishments and reputation we have today," said Alliance President Shelly Zegart. "We need a stronger engine - dedicated office space and full-time staff - to keep the work going and growing. Our move will give The Alliance a chance to gain the broader recognition it deserves - and quilts more of the recognition they deserve."

The Alliance was chosen from many organizations for the coveted space with HandMade. Rebecca Anderson, HandMade's Executive Director, said, "HandMade chose The Alliance for American Quilts to share our new office space because of its national presence, use of technology, and innovative thinking about handmade objects. This joint venture will bring together different, but complementary organizations, resulting in a synergistic relationship, enabling each to grow in ways we might not otherwise."


Karen Musgrave

Marketing and Communications Director

The Alliance for American Quilts


Join us! Become a member!


Subject: Southern Homespun From: Palamporeaol.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:03:12 EDT X-Message-Number: 4

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I found a wonderful site today that many of you will enjoy. It is very long---42 pages!

_http://www.uttyl.edu/vbetts/homespun.htm_ (http://www.uttyl.edu/vbetts/homespun.htm) Southern Homespun: Articles in Civil War Era Newspapers

Any clue who put this together? It is wonderful for research of home textile production during the Civil War. I stumbled upon this site when I was doing research on homespun plaids prior to 1820. Happy reading. Lynn Lancaster Gorges New Bern, NC



Subject: Re: Southern Homespun From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 5

Probably someone named V Betts who goes to the University of Texas. Did you read the letter taken from the dead soldiers body? It was from his mother. She sent him patches for his jeans and asks him if he wants his blanket. How sad!


--- Palamporeaol.com wrote:

> I found a wonderful site today that many of you will enjoy. It is > very long---42 pages! > _http://www.uttyl.edu/vbetts/homespun.htm


Subject: Snow storm in Denver? From: karenquiltrockisland.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:23:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

Snowstorm? What snowstorm?

My plane was due to leave Denver Monday at 10:44 AM. Karen Porter and I left the hotel about 7 AM with the fearless Kathy Metalica volunteering to be at the wheel (of Marilyn Leucke's rental car) and Marilyn running shot gun trying to read signs that were quickly being obliterated by the wet snow. We arrived at the airport at about 8AM without too much trouble (other than reading snow covered signs!). I boarded my flight at 10:00. We sat in the plane on the tarmac from 10 AM until 11:30 waiting to be de-iced when the pilot finally decided to turn the engines off to save fuel. However, when he tried to start back up to move forward in line, the auxiliary booster engine wouldn‚t kick in so we had to be towed back to the gate for repairs ˜ which means we lost our place in the de-icing line! Got back in line at 2pm and were finally de-iced and cleared for take-off about 6:15 pm! Arrived SeaTac about 8PM. (Was supposed to have arrived 12:30 noon). Too late to catch a ferry to the island so crashed at 9PM at the hotel where I had left my car and hit the road Tuesday morning at 6 AM, catching the 8:50AM ferry home. (AQSG member Anne Dawson also from this island had an 11:30AM flight out of Denver and was off the ground by 2PM. Originally we were in line ahead of her plane but, as I said, lost our place when the auxiliary power wouldn't start our engines back up!)

The thing that made the whole day bearable was the fact that when I checked in at the gate at 9:00AM, Alaska Airlines was allowing folks to upgrade to first class for a mere $50, so I took advantage of the offer -- not knowing I was going to be sitting in that seat for almost 10 hours! But what a difference it made!! Plus, I was right near the door so that I got fresh air when we were parked at the gate for repairs for the door was open the whole time. I had a small wall hanging in my carry on that I had bought at the AQSG auction (made by founding AQSG members Barbara Brackman and Carmel Reitman) and used that to keep warm when the door was open. Everyone on the plane kept a good attitude. We felt so sorry for the pilot and crew though. We barely squeaked under the Federal regulation time constraints - for they had been on duty 13 plus hours when we finally took off.

I actually got a lot of work done while sitting in the plane for I went over all my notes from my meetings with QNM staff and my impromptu encounters with the RMQM staff members -- as well as other AQSG members that I talked QHF business with, etc and got my "To-Do List" all in order before we left the ground. I also read three of the Uncoverings papers and a chapter from a science book I picked up at the airport. So the day was not lost! All's well that ends well!

Karen Alexander


Subject: Helen Erickson From: "Rosie Werner" <rwernerrconnect.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:49:02 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

Dear List, I am looking for information about Helen Erickson, who took over Sciota  Danner's "Mrs. Danner's Quilts". Is she still living? If so, is there an  address or way to contact her? Thanks. Rosie Werner


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