Subject: Re books From: "" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:17:45 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1

Re Ady's concern about new Wisconsin book--maybe this a 2nd edition

printed because the 1st edition sold out? Anyone here involved with

the Wisconsin project that can answer that question?

Nan made a good point about others wanting the older editions, they are often more valuable so maybe you should go through your shelves and give us a list of those duplicated books you want to sell. I'll bet you could easily recoup the cost of the new editions.

Sandra Starley Moab, Utah Professional Quilt Appraiser


Subject: Re: Rainbow Quilt Block Company From: Barbara Burnham

That's wonderful. Now, I wonder what will happen with all those people selling photocopies of many of those designs. Another interesting copyright issue.... Barbara


Subject: Re: New (???) books From: Laura Robins-Morris <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:48:52 -0800 X-Message-Number: 4

Yes, Ady, I know exactly how you feel. You said it very well. Laura, in cold sunny Seattle

>Am I alone in feeling upset by this new trend of re-publishing "new and >revised" editions of quite recently published (and not inexpensive) quilt history books? >


Subject: Re: New (???) books From: "Greta VanDenBerg-Nestle" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:48:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6

>Am I alone in feeling upset by this new trend of re-publishing "new and >revised" editions of quite recently published (and not inexpensive) quilt history books?

I don't agree at all!

Consider this: Once our wonderful quilt history books go out of publication the prices frequently skyrocket making it difficult for quilt history enthusiasts who don't have the books to afford the information if they can even find it.

As of this writing Amazon lists the 2001 edition of "Wisconsin Quilts: Stories in the Stitches" available only through independent sellers with prices starting at $82.50 and going up significantly from there. The revised newer edition is available for preorder through Amazon for only $23.09 with a SRP of $34.99.

I, for one, am thrilled they are re-publishing these valuable resources so that those who can benefit from the information will have it available to them for a reasonable price. Who among us would have paid $82.50+ for the original editions we have? Not me!

Isn't the whole purpose of these books to educate those interested in the information they contain? I say make the information as available as possible to those wanting to learn!

Greta (In a very cold PA)


Subject: Rosemary Krill's book on Chintz From: "Newbie Richardson" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:30:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

Dear List, I am catching up on posts so if someone has already posted this please delete!

When in England this summer with Deb Roberts tour, we met Ms. Krill at the V & A. Her book builds on John Irwin's long out of print book :The Origins of Chintz a must have classic on a par with Florence Montgomery's Printed Textiles and Brackman's Clues in the Calico. She chronicles the new research that has been done since his work 30 years ago. Her book will be in color - a big plus! According to her this past August, it was due out on Feb. 1st - however, as most of you know by now, there can be huge disparities between projected publication dates and the actuality.

Origins of Chintz can be found in university libraries and well stocked local libraries. It is so wonderful that I sent my daughter to Kinko's with a friend's copy to color zerox all the black and white photos ( which allows the gradations of gray to show) and copy all of the text so I would have my own a copy for referrence - that was cheaper than purchasing a second hand copy. Irwin's book chronicals the developement of Indian chintz and the cross fertilization of ideas between the English/French/Dutch merchant traders and manufacturers in the 17th and 18th centuries. The rage for Indian chintz in Europe (and the profits to be made on fabric) was directly responsible for the Industrial Revolution in England

I will wait until I have confirmation that Ms Krill's book is in stock before I tie up any cash!

Newbie Richardson


Subject: Reissued books From: Stephen Schreurs <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:30:53 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 9

I, too, welcome the reissuing of books which have been out of print. HOWEVER, I really mind when a reissued book is advertised under a new title and this fact is not apparent in the advertising. I know that improvements get made, but is is very confusing and a bit disingenuous - it has happened to me in books of quilt ideas and patterns, too - prompting a return to the seller with a stiff note to the publisher. I want to DECIDE I want or need the newer material. Susan


Subject: Today's entry on the blog- From: "Pepper Cory" <> Date: Thu, 24

For those who love hand quilting and history, jump on today's entry at my blog. I re-found this old photo on the latest studio clean-out-enjoy! Pepper (from the windy and rapidly chilling NC coast) Teacher, author, designer, and quiltmaker

203 First Street Beaufort, NC 28516 (252) 726-4117 


Subject: Re: Today's entry on the blog- From: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:41:23 EST X-Message-Number: 11

 Pepper, You did a very interesting presentation on the Durham Quilters during your quilt marking class at our guild's N.C. Symposium last May. The picture is wonderfully detailed and I really do like the way she's working that feathered wreath.

I quilt with my floor hoop at the top level so it's closer to my head-it's much easier on the back.



Subject: Julia Auction in Maine From: "Pam Weeks" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:00:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12

Just finished reading today's NH state paper for the auction notices and saw a neat one in Maine. There is a remarkable wool quilt listed, and even more remarkable is the wisdom of the auction house to have the quilt "described" by Lynn Bassett. Makes me want to go up there just to see it.

Here's the link:

Pam in cold NH, dreaming of Arizona again!

-- Pam Weeks

PO Box 123 Durham, NH 03824-0123 603.661.2245

"Life it either a daring adventure or nothing. To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable." Helen Keller


Subject: TEXTILE BLOGS From: Jan Thomas <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:49:54 -0700 X-Message-Number: 13

Thanks Pepper; I am just now reviewing all my Blogs settings so I'm happy to add you. Will all of you with blogs please post here so we know who you are? If you know of any other textile (sampler, costumes, etc., I'd love to know those too.


Pepper Cory wrote:



Subject: Re: Rosemary Krill's book on Chintz From: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:48:56 EST X-Message-Number: 14 

Hi all -

The book Newbie refers to is "Chintz: Indian Textiles for the West" by Rosemary's Crill, senior curator of Asian and Indian artifacts at the V&A. According to Rosemary, the book is scheduled to be out in early February; she has copies of the book (so it is printed) but the official release is not until then. Amazon says they will have it shipped out to those who pre-order by Feb. 5, one can pick it up there for about a $20 savings. ISBN: 978-1851775323.

JMHO, but I believe it will be excellent - not only for content but for the images which will as Newbie pointed out, be all color. Over the 3 visits I have had with Rosemary I have seen just a taste of the many fabrics going into the book and I do not believe anyone on this list will regret purchasing it.

Deb Roberts


Subject: Re: Julia Auction in Maine From: "" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:09:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15

Thanks, Pam! It is a truly wonderful quilt. This is the second time it's been offered for sale--it failed to sell at their fall Americana auction, which surprised all of us. Hopefully, it will find a caring home this time.

All best, Lynne

> There is a remarkable wool quilt listed, > and even more remarkable is the wisdom of the auction house to have > the quilt "described" by Lynn Bassett.


Subject: Re: TEXTILE BLOGS From: "Christine Thresh" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:21:22 -0800 X-Message-Number: 16

My blog is not totally textile, but it is my main focus.

Christine on an island in the California Delta <-- my blog

From: "Jan Thomas" <>

> Will all of you with blogs please post here so we know who you are?


Subject: FVF From: "Lucinda Cawley" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:16:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17

FVF met on a beautiful (very cold) Monday in Myersville, MD. A string pieced Lone Star with a bulls center on a paper foundation got us off to a great start. another unusual piece was a 1940s Yo-Yo Basket appliquéd to black crepe. A doll quilt made of Indian blanket cigar flannels was followed by a Taft-Sherman campaign handkerchief.from the 1908 presidential election. An astonishing Blazing Star quilt was bought at the AQSG auction. The individual diamonds in this full sized (1880s) quilt measure 1/2". Next up was a wholecloth of blue pillar print from Hallockville, Long Island dated 1826. Another dated quilt (1938) was a charming and unusual Alphabet. M was represented by Charlie McCarthy (remember him?), G by a globe, Q by a quill, W by a windmill. In this political year we are all especially interested in patterns like Whigs Defeat. We saw a red and white one with diamond borders on three sides made in Leesburg, VA. We never did come to an agreement on the date and whether the quilting was more recent than the top. Imagine my surprise when the Lindberg Kidnapping quilt showed up. It's much less creepy in person than in concept. Only a single block showing the ladder leaning against the house was really scary. Most of the other blocks were portraits of people involved in the case. A crib sized President's Wreath in orange and green (3rd quarter 19th century) came from Gettysburg, PA. The real challenge was to identify the origin of an 1840s stripy in buff and blue with a lovely, bright pink and yellow plaid in many of the blocks. The quilt came from Norfolk, England. It was obviously quilted from the back using traditional English and Welsh motifs and is signed M. Cragg. We laughed over an over-stuffed red and white Coxcomb and decided it was the most stuffed quilt (over an inch high) we'd ever seen. That is until a breath taking blue, yellow, green and red Double Irish Chain (1860-70)appeared with giant stuffed artichokes (?) in the plain blocks and an amazing stuffed border (bright blue vine with a bird, fruits and leaves all stuffed). There are many names quilted on it. The quilt was found in New Hampshire but was probably made in New York. At the risk of starting a regional war I have to say that no New Englander made that quilt! (G) An embroidered wool Nine Patch from Frederick, MD had all sorts of images in the blocks. From the same general area (Sharpsburg) we saw a 4-block Coxcomb variation with very large flowers in urns. The same urns were in the center of the borders with trailing vines and flowers stretching the length of each side. A Double Irish Chain from Washington Co., MD (red, green and yellow) seemed very tame after its stuffed sister except that it was a quilting sampler. An early Maryland chintz quilt (1830s fancy machine ground) appeared to be wholecloth but was actually pieced in very low contrast fabrics. The day ended with a wonderful treasure: two sets of 1850 Reel blocks from Baltimore in turkey red, orange and green with tiny leaves and berries. 14 large and 52 small blocks were probably intended for two different

quilts. Just to make the week perfect, yesterday on my way to meet my brand new (born 5 p.m. on the 22) great nephew, I had a chance to revisit the exhibit at the DAR. It's up until March 21. Don't miss it! Cinda on the Eastern Shore where it actually snowed today


Subject: For those who love history and quilting factoids- From: "Pepper Cory" <> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:10:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18

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For those who love hand quilting and history, jump on today's entry at my blog. I re-found this old photo on the latest studio clean-out-enjoy! Pepper (from the windy and rapidly chilling NC coast) Teacher, author, designer, and quiltmaker

203 First Street Beaufort, NC 28516



Subject: RE: New (???) Books From: adamroni <> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:49:40 +0200 X-Message-Number: 1

"I, for one, am thrilled they are re-publishing these valuable resources so that those who can benefit from the information will have it available to them for a reasonable price. Who among us would have paid $82.50+ for the original editions we have? Not me!"

With all due respect, as someone who HAD paid the $75 + shipping for the original Rhode Island book when it was first published, I would be extremely unhappy to hear of its re-publication under the guise of "new and improved". I buy quilt history books because I love anything to do with quilts and quilt-making. I do not buy them to make a profit by re-selling them when they're OOP (This is in reply to the suggestion that I donate/re-sell my older copies). My budget is strained as it is, and personally, I prefer to pick my charities myself rather that have them foisted on me (currently, I use any surplus funds in my possession to try and help the hundreds of Darfur refugees who fled to Israel). Certainly I can see the point of re-publishing OOP books. What really upsets me is the underhanded (IMHO) practice of twisting my arm into buying nearly the same books (albeit under a different title) twice. Publishers (at least in Israel, where I live and work as a translator and editor) steadfastly refuse to publish addenda and corrigenda - there's no profit in that. I can still remember how angry I was years ago when I bought a book by Ken Follett, only to discover it's a re-issue of his "The Eye of the Needle" under a different title (Mainly, I was upset because I found myself stuck on board a plane with a book I have already read - I can't survive flights without a book). Technically, the re-publication of a supposedly "revised" edition of an expensive quilt book is far easier that the production of a brand new book, and twice as lucrative as the re-issuing of the older edition, since the "captive audience" includes both new customers and the ones who had already bought the original publication. Mainly, it is (again, in my opinion) an unhealthy practice which benefits the publisher rather than the reader. Ady in Israel


Subject: RE: New (???) Books From: "Linda Heminway" <> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:19:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

I just started wondering if it would be permissible to copy an out of print book. Here is some information on copywrite law that some might find

interesting: It happens to be a Christian ministry web site, but it was what came up on my web search and truly does provide some useful information.

My favorite book, by the way, that is out of print, is the book written about Vermont Quilts. It is called Plain and Fancy. It was the first book, I believe, that the 1863 Jane Stickle quilt was featured in. Brenda, who wrote the book Dear Jane, fell in love with that quilt after seeing it pictured in Plain and Fancy.

I, too, fell in love with that quilt and Plain and Fancy is just such a wonderful book. Though it was written in 1991,and currently out of print, the information about the early Vermont quilts is still as fascinating as it ever was to me.

Interestingly enough, it is more readily available than it used to be and the price for a used copy has gone down. I'm not sure why, as used copies of this were selling at something like $75.00 each a few years back and copies were not readily available. Now, one can buy a used copy for about $25.00 on Amazon and as of this morning, there were 11 for sale. Wonder why? Maybe one of you knows.

While in the subject of books, I must recommend the newly published book The Quilt, A History and Celebration of An American Art Form by Elise Schebler Roberts. My only complaint is that it's really a huge, heavy, hardcover that you can't hold in your lap and read, sadly, but it's well worth having it for your collection even if the weight of it requires me to sit at the table to page through it. In fact, it is so up to date that the Home of the Brave Quilt project, founded by Donald Beld and the Quilts of Valor programs are pictured and featured in it. I love all the bright color photos. Linda Heminway Plaistow NH


Subject: Re: new??? books From: "Kathleen Sweeney" <> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:31:43 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3

Given the trend to remarket newer and shinier products, we should all be careful consumers and investigate before we buy.

To the best of my knowledge the new edition of the Wisconsin book is basically a new printing by a different publisher. The original text is unchanged but there is the addition of patterns from some of the featured quilts.

I'm happy with my original. But if you don't have a copy or you enjoy having patterns of antique quilts, you should consider it for your library. It's still the only Wisconsin book and the stories are wonderful and well-written.

Kathleen Sweeney Cedarburg WI


Subject: DAR correction From: "Lucinda Cawley" <> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:17:35 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

The last day for the quilt exhibit at the DAR is February 29. Plan to get there in time for this wonderful eye candy. Cinda confused on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Copyright From: Carol's Quilt Closet <> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:02:22 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

Linda, I decided to respond to your post regarding Copyright.

Not all books published before 1923 are in the public domain, however, the = great majority are.   If the author or copyright holder or their heirs took the care to register= the copyright from the date of the passage of the Copyright Act of 1909, a= nd took the care to continue to reregister every 28 years, a work could sti= ll be under copyright. There are a very, very small number of these but to= say that all books before 1923 are in public domain might get someone in t= rouble if they don't research their book.

If someone is seeking to republish a <1923 book and offer it for sale once = again, or place it up on the Internet, they must do a due diligence search = with the copyright office to prove it is actually in the public domain.  All the "free public domain books" that you see on the Internet, have had t= hat due diligence search done, from Project Gutenburg, Open Content Allianc= e, NetLibrary etc. 

If someone wants to make a preservation copy for a work that is falling apa= rt, they can do so without fear and without paying copyright, as long as it= s for personal use and will not be republished, sold, or used for any other= non personal use. Libraries are allowed to do this as well. I would p= robably mark my "COPY" as such.

Hope this helps, Carol in cold CT


Subject: flock quilt From: "Lucinda Cawley" <> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:16:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

Richard Lowe, master of the Ark which (with the Dove) brought the first English colonists to Maryland in 1634. Among his possessions was a "flock-quilt." The Tidewater was not a healthy place for Englishmen and Lowe, like many others, died within a few years of his arrival. His inventory lists the quilt. What is a flock quilt? Cinda on the Eastern Shore


Subject: Re: flock quilt From: xenia cord <> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:33:34 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

Resorting once again to my trusty OED (shorter version), I find, from

Middle English:

A lock, tuft, particle of wool, cotton, etc.; a material consisting of the coarse tufts and refuse of wool or cotton, or of cloth torn to

pieces by machinery, used for stuffing beds, cushions, mattresses, etc; powdered wool or cloth or cloth-shearing, used formerly for thickening cloth and now in making flock-paper 1483.

(That date is just stuck on the end of the definition without punctuation before, and no further information.)



Subject: Shadow Quilting or Shadow Applique Origins Question From: "Judy Anne" <> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:36:35 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1

I have a question from a lady who is wanting to learn the background of "shadow quilting". Here is what she wrote.

>>I wondered if you could help me to find the origins of shadow quilting.

Not the shadow quilting where you go round the outline of a shape in ever increasing parallel lines, (echo quilting) but the kind where you put a shape on to a background fabric, put a layer of voile(sheer) on top, wadding underneath and finally backing fabric at the back, then stitch around the shape through all the layers. <<

>>It may be very old as I have been told that the Tudors wore voile over blackwork in their dress, but have no evidence for this yet. Otherwise, there is a chapter in a book published in 1934 which describes the technique, but gives no reference to origins. It was, I believe, made popular in the 80's by people like Marjorie Puckett who wrote a book on Shadow Quilting.<<

Does anyone know about additional information on this or sources where she might find out more? Could it go under another term?

Judy Breneman


Subject: Lacaster County, PA, Quilt Show - March From: Barb Garrett <> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:28:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

If you are planning a visit to Lancaster County, PA, for the Quilter's Heritage Quilt Show in March, please consider adding a stop in Churchtown to your visit. I'm helping a group mount an exhibit called "Quilts in the Mansion", which is described in the news release below. Poole Forge is located on route 23, and is on the route traveled between Hayloft Fabrics in Morgantown and either Zooks or Saudeers -- a fun stop between the fabric shops. Thank you to the owner of this list for allowing me to share this information.

For Immediate Release --

Eastern Lancaster County's Historic Poole Forge will present "Quilts in the Mansion" on March 24-30, 2008. This unique display will feature

over 35 quilts from Lancaster County, dating from the mid 1800s to the 1950s, on two floors of the old Iron Master's Mansion. Many of these quilts are still in the families of the original quiltmaker, and their wonderful stories have been passed down with the quilts.

Historic Poole Forge is in the village of Churchtown, 3 miles east of

Blue Ball, home of Shady Maple, on Rt 23, and 4 miles west of Hayloft

Fabrics in Morgantown. The property dates back to the 1700s and includes an 1849 covered bridge. It is a picturesque park setting along the Conestoga River.

The show runs March 24-30, 2008, Mon-Sat 10 am - 4 pm, and Sun 1-4 pm. The $5 admission goes directly towards the restoration of this very special treasure of Lancaster County. For questions concerning the show please contact Barbara Garrett at 610-469-6048 or or visit the website at


Subject: Advice please From: "Janet O'Dell" <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:17:12 +1100 X-Message-Number: 2

A friend of mine has some 5 quilts that were smoke damaged in a fire. Do any of you have advice on how to clean them please? Janet O'Dell Melbourne, Australia


Subject: RE: smoke damage From: "Newbie Richardson" <> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:38:50 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

Janet, If they are relatively "new" then you can be more aggressive. Not knowing what was in the smoke, the chances are that they will have to be both dry and wet cleaned to get at the amalgam of particulate matter that has been deposited in the fibers. Before that they should be vacuumed - provided the dirt is not too greasy. There are specialty cleaners devoted to this kind of work. Your friend will need to find out whether they can hand dry clean - or at least put in a machine that can be manually operated.

Newbie Richardson


Subject: RE: smoke damage From: "Janet O'Dell" <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:42:59 +1100 X-Message-Number: 4

Many thanks Newbie, these are, I believe, recently made quilts; I will pass on your email to my friend. Her quilts were on display at a shop that suffered smoke damage from a fire in the next building - all the shop fabrics were ruined. Janet O'Dell Melbourne Australia


Subject: RE: smoke damage From: "Kay Sorensen" <> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:53:38 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

When a Cheryl Bradkin had a house fire many years ago she was advised to use Safeguard soap for any remaining odors. I have used it for many different kinds of odors - in fact I put about 12 bars in some used furniture I bought last year and it still is there. The best part - when you're done using it the soap is hard and you have yourself a bar of bath soap.

I often put things in a plastic bag, add the soap and close it.

When I had a new bag of stuffing that I hadn't done it to, my granddaughter didn't want to use it. She wanted to use some of the stuffing that smelled so nice!

No other soap that I have found works like this.

This would be in addition to any recommended cleaning if the quilt was dirty. Quiltingly, Kay