Subject: smoke smell From: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:38:43 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

I agree with Newbie, but often just plain wet cleaning is fine for newer quilts.? Begin by typing in a search for --- "washing smoke damaged fabric". You will get lots of information using this one search. I have washed several SOOT damaged quilts with Arm and Hammer?or Wisk detergent and they came out fine. Always consider the age of the fabrics, the condition, the dyes, etc. (TEST DYES) I washed the quilts in my front loader which is also fairly easy on the fabric. So don't run with this and say that Lynn Gorges said to wash all smoke filled quilts in the washing machine. You have to consider each individual item. Children swimming pools also work great for quilts you don't want to wash in a machine. I know that Terry Thompson washed several in a pool after a fire destroyed her apartment many years ago. The warmer the water, the better the cleaning, but it can do other things that are bad, so do warm water or cold, AFTER testing the dyes. And consider a little white vinegar to help keep the dyes more stable.? Many sites said to use bleach, but that isn't possible with a quilt.?? This isn't a job for Orvus. It is going to require a detergent with an enzyme. Baking soda added to the water is good, too.?If your friend wants info on?washing quilts in a machine have her go to my website and click "Washing quilts after a flood". ? Better to dry naturally rather than in a dryer. Can fluff in dryer later. It might take more than one wash. Also remember charcoal briquettes, crumpled up newspapers, and?baking soda in a big box when fighting odors. I fought spilled shrimp juice (AWFUL) in my car this fall. Ground coffee sprinkled over the area?(sprinkle = sit for?several days = vacuum = repeat).? I soaked the carpet with white vinegar. Dried the carpet and then began the coffee attack. Don't do with quilts. The biggest question is --- What is the worst thing that will happen to this quilt? If it is useless the way it is, then a risk has to be taken if you HOPE to salvage it. Sounds like an insurance issue, so she might also get help from a fire restoration company. But?often they throw things in a big washer without much consideration for the piece. Proceed with care and lots of questions if using their services. I think Pat Cummings also has info on her site. Give your friend a big hug from QHL. Things like this are not easy to deal with. Best regards, Lynn

Lynn Lancaster Gorges Historic Textiles Studio The Creative Caregiver New Bern, NC


Subject: cleaning products From: Sally Ward <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:23:31 +0000 X-Message-Number: 3

Does anyone have relevant information on Vanish cleaning products? They particularly advertise one of their formulations which is 'safe

for colour'. I like using them for cleaning and freshening things like teenage T-shirts (!), for prolonging the colour of my many black

T-shirts <G>, and for brightening charity-shop linens which I will not weep over if they disintegrate. But I've not yet had the courage

to use them on anything special. The website doesn't give much away

about the formulation, but the do call themselves 'oxy-action'.

Sally Ward


Subject: Re: smoke smell From: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:52:38 EST X-Message-Number: 4

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Sounds like an insurance issue, so she might also get help from a fire restoration company. But?often they throw things in a big washer without much consideration for the piece. Proceed with care and lots of questions if using their services.

Please be careful with restoration companies!!! I have a friend who had a fire and her beautiful antique silk, cotton and other fabrics crazy quilt was smelly and sooty afterwards. It smelled to high heaven. Thank above for the fact that I was there the very next day and when the restoration company told her they would pack all up, including her quilts, I asked what they would do with the antique crazy quilt! I loved that quilt. They were going to wash it just like any other thing!!! I told her 'over my dead body' and we got it taken care of with the help of the Textile Museum and New England Quilt Museum's advice.

These restoration people sometimes pretend to know what they are doing. So beware!

Kathy B


Subject: RE: Quilts Exposed to Smoke and Fire From: Kris Driessen <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:50:33 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 5

I have the same advice, actually - washing (and fabric softener) was the only thing that took out the smell. Nothing takes out the stain or the mildew:-((



Subject: Re: smoke smell From: "Newbie Richardson" <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:43:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

I echo this post! You must be "overly invested" when it comes to textiles, as most of these folks are clueless about fibers.



Subject: Kit Quilt Question From: "Carol Rich" <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:34:09 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8

I am coming out of years of "lurkdom" to ask a question regarding a kit quilt. A customer of mine purchased an unfinished (actually still in the manilla envelope) Progress Quilt kit # 1375 called "Tulip Quilt" at a rummage sale for $4.00. She has finished the top and is beginning to quilt it. She is interested in knowing when this kit was available. Also, is there any other interesting information that I could give her regarding this kit? Thank you for any help you can give. Carol Rich


Subject: Re: Kit Quilt Question From: Judy Kelius <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:39:07 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

If she looks at the instruction sheet, perhaps there will be a date hidden at the bottom of it. I have found this in some of the vintage kits. The manila envelopes were used in the earlier kits, 1940s era.

By the 1960s, they were packaged in plastic. Some people are documenting these kits and might be able to help more!


Subject: Tulip Quilt From: "Rose Werner" <> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:51:20 -0600 X-Message-Number: 10

Carol, There were two versions of this kit, one called Tulip Time and one called Tulip. Each had a different number - #1375 and #1500 - both from Progress. I have a quilt of each version and they are identical except for color. The earlier one was sold by Herrschners in 1953-54 - this is in pastel colors. In the late 1960s it was sold by Herrschners in typical 60s colors, red, gold, and olive green. I have never seen the packages for these kits, so I am not sure which name and which number go with the different color schemes.(Herrschners didn't use the Progress numbers and often changed the names of kits.) I'd appreciate it if you could verify what number, name, and color scheme is in the kit your customer has. Thanks in advance. Rosie Werner


Subject: Re: Tulip Quilt From: Judy Kelius <> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:23:22 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Hi Rosie - I just sold the later kit on eBay so you can still check the photos of the package -

There was no indication it came from Herrschners, just the Progress name on it.

Were the designs identical in the earlier kit? I'm not a big fan of the 60s colors in this one <GR>! I often thought one of these kit tops would be a good candidate for the "back-basting" method of applique using your own choice of fabrics.

- Judy in PA


Subject: Down by old mill stream Rhode Island Quilts From: "" <> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:31:40 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2

Great to hear that the list worked its magic and helped Lisa find the  book. I called second in the book line but I haven't heard from  anyone, so if y'all could now send some of that collective wisdom my  direction and help me it would be most appreciated. Looking forward  to some happy dancing and reading too. By the way, if you tried  responding earlier and my mailbox was full, please respond again.  I've cleaned it out now and I'm sorry if I missed some emails.

From my earlier request: Like Lisa I am looking for a copy of "Down  by the Old Mill Stream: Quilts in Rhode Island" by Linda Welters and Margaret T. Ordonez (ISBN: 0873386272).

Sandra Starley professional quilt appraiser Moab, Utah

----------------------------------------- Hello all,

I just wanted to report back that a copy of the book has been  found! I now have it safely placed by my favorite reading chair ready  to devour. Thanks to all who offered up suggestions! This group once again  came to my rescue. You are the best! Doing the happy dance, Lisa


Subject: eco friendly battings From: Neva Hart <> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:13:06 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

I am doing a little research and would be interested in learning if anyone has been using any of the eco-friendly quilting supplies, such as bamboo batt, corn-based batts, etc. If you have used any of these

items, please email me off list. Thanks. NEVA HART AQS Certified Quilt Appraiser in Virginia



Subject: Tulip kit quilt From: "Carol Rich" <> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:34:30 -0700 X-Message-Number: 4

The papers that were with the quilt included just one 8.5" x 11" sheet of instructions and the envelope which said "Progress Quilt #1375". And the address of 8-14 W. 30th St. New York City. There was also the name Tobin Sporn & Glaser, Inc. New York, New York. No zip code, so it was before that time. The colors were pastels, and the fabric is flimsy to say the least. . .I could practically read through some of it. The quilt is 81" x 99" in size. Thanks again for the help. Carol


Subject: Star quilt search From: Debby Kratovil <> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:58:56 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

I found a long forgotten page ripped out of the Metropolitan Home magazine, dated January 1982. It features an antique quilt from American Hurrah (museum? shop?). It is circa 1920 and is titled "Flower Pots and Stars." I have called it Metropolitan Home Star all these years, but I would love to see where this quilt is now. You can

see the image I scanned from the page here:

Has anyone ever seen this? Is it an original, one of a kind or from a

kit? I have redrafted the star part and made a contemporary version with a large scale floral print. This antique quilt has grabbed my heart all these years!

Thanks, Debby


Subject: Folk art quilt From: Debby Kratovil <> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:27:27 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

I've come closer to finding this quilt ( Someone told me that the Flower Pots block appears in a quilt featured in the

1982 Quilt Engagement Calendar. I have 1980, 1985 and 1987. Does anyone have the 1982 calendar? B Brackman's Applique Encyclopedia identifies the block (41.52) and says it's Plate 32 from the 1982 calendar. I would buy the calendar on eBay, but $50 is steep for me for just one picture!

Debby -- Debby (with a "y" and not "ie") Kratovil Quilt Workshops & Programs


Subject: Re: tulip quilt From: "Rose Werner" <> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:36:47 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2

The designs for the two tulip quilts are identical. However, the color changes give them a very different look. So different, in fact, that I bought the second one without realizing that it was identical to the first. That was early in my collecting and I wasn't paying attention to detail. Anyone else done something like that? Even so, I love both of them and they add interest to a lecture. Thanks for the link, Judy, now I have the information I needed. Rosie