Subject: notice of Quilt calendar available from packwood house museum in PA From: "Candace Perry" <> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:27:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

2011 Quilt Calendar

Price: $15.00 includes tax (plus shipping)

To purchase, visit or contact the Packwood House Museum

15 North Water St., Lewisburg, Pennsylvania

Email: infopackwoodhousemuseum,com or call (570) 524-0323

Also available at: Country Cupboard and the Beckoning Cat in Lewisburg, and at Country Farm and Home in Mifflinburg!

The calendar is a fundraiser for the Packwood House Museum in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania. Proceeds support the operation of the museum and the maintenance of its collection of early American artifacts, including our antique quilts. Note that the quilts in the calendar are currently on display in Packwood House Museum, in the Shoemaker Gallery.

Visit our web site!


Subject: Hard job but somebody's got to do it... From: Pepper Cory <> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:12:22 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

Hello friends-Occasionally my teaching takes me to exotic locales but next month, I get to teach in my back yard. Well not exactly...I live in Beaufort NC at the coast ( the SOBX or Southern Outer Banks Islands) but Ocracoke Island, the pirate Blackbeard's hideway home still exists, 22 miles off the coast. You have to take a ferry to Ocracoke but once you get here, you won't want to leave. I've been asked to teach a heritage quilting class. By heritage, it means the subject pertains to NC history and traditional crafts. This is when I really love my job! here's the announcement and the contact info: *The North Carolina Island Lily Quilt* Ocracoke Island is magical any time of the year but the last week in January (Wednesday 1/26-Friday 1/28) there will be a heritage workshop on quilting on Ocracoke Island. The three-day retreat features the classic North Carolina Lily pattern but done in plaids! We'll learn the pattern, how to use those plaids, make templates for some pieces, and basic applique skills. Also a demo on Big Stitch quilting and the antique English Folded Log cabin pattern just for fun. A mini-quilt show-n-tell of my vintage quilts plus a collection of classic Downeast quilts from a collector on Ocracoke. Who said the beach was just for winter?! If you're interested, please contact Amy Howard at this email address: . She can tell you about costs (the workshop is a steal!) and advise you on housing. In addition to some communal meals and teatime, the class will also get to attend a concert Friday night on the island.

If you or any of your quilting friends might be interested, please contact Amy Howard at the above email address. They told me yesterday that the workshop is half full so they can take only ten more students. So what do you want for Christmas this year?



-- Pepper Cory Teacher, author, designer, and quiltmaker 203 First Street Beaufort, NC 28516 (252) 726-4117

Website: and look me up on



Subject: Re: apologies about calendar date From: Gaye Ingram <> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:55:27 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4

One of the good things I caught from the reference was the direction to the American Museums site, where one might name a museum to receive her Amazon "points" or percentage. I try to remember to go into Amazon through Kris' site, but I sent the information on to friends who will gladly do that. Might not be much, but in the museum world right now, I suspect every dollar counts. It might also sooth the conscience of those who are poor at resisting the temptation of books.

Thanks for listing it.

gaye ----


Subject: arsenic in dyes From: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:47:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5


I went to see the Winterthur Quilt Exhibit at the Richmond Art Museum recently. It was an amazingly wonderful exhibit. I would highly recommend a road trip to Richmond or purchasing the book that goes with the exhibit.

I was however a bit "alarmed" when I went in and immediately there was asign that said for people to please not touch the quilts because many early dyes were made with arsenic and therefore the quilts could be contaminated. (I am loosely phrasing what the sign said. However, it certainly gotMY ATTENTION.) I am adding a quote from Barbara Brackman's site about "poison green" and I also know that indigo often had arsenic used in the dyeing process. I "knew this" but as a textile conservator and a quilt collector, I guess I never worried about "touching" antique quilts. Should we worry? Scientist, we need your advice on this! Or were they being overly cautious in an effort to make sure people didn't touch the quilts?

I know that I often get headaches after working in my studio for severalhours, but I have attributed that to the dust mites and cotton fibers that I am very allergic to according to allergy tests years ago.

Windham Fabrics addressed the arsenic issue when talking about greens andcheddars.............

Quote from Barbara Brackman's site............... Poison green is the topic of my subscription newsletter on dating quiltsthis week, so I've been doing research in Google Books, looking at 19th-century dye manuals to find out what shade the color is and how poison itwas. There definitely was a poison green, green dyes and pigments basedon copper arsenate---arsenic. Chemist Carl Wilhelm Scheele (1742-1786) discovered arsenic's use as a coloring agent in 1778.

Variations became extremely popular for dyeing and printing cloth and wallpaper and, worst of all, for food coloring. Before pure food and drug lawsthe only testing was trial and error on the part of the consumer. Decadeswent by before people realized that coloring marzipan with copper arsenate was an extreme health hazard. Wallpaper and silks also could sicken, ifnot kill.

I will be interested to hear your comments on this. I am not planning ontossing out my quilt collection, but this did alarm me a bit consideringI touch 1800's quilts on a daily basic.

Thanks, Lynn Lancaster Gorges, New Bern, NC



Subject: RE: arsenic in dyes From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" <> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:42:18 -0800 X-Message-Number: 6

Good evening, QHLers - Great minds think alike as I too was able to visit the Winterthur Quilt exhibit (American Quilts: Selections from the Winterthur Museum) at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts (located in Richmond, VA) recently. The sign posted in the exhibition about arsenic on the quilts states:

Arsenic is a poison that was often used in the past as an insect repellent. Some quilts in this exhibition have tested positive for the presence of arsenic.

For your own health and safety - Please Do Not Touch The Quilts!

It is an important safety issue, whether the arsenic is present from dyes or pigments and/or a past attempt at insect control. I think it is also a clever way to keep folks, like us quilt lovers, from fondling the quilts or turning up a corner to take a look at the other side! <g>

More museums with conservation labs are obtaining and using hand-held x-ray fluorescence (XRF) equipment that quickly and easily identifies a lot of the elements non-destructively, including arsenic. As these analyzers are used on a more collections of textiles and costume, I think you will see more signs like the one displayed in Richmond in future exhibitions of textiles and costume. Mercury is another heavy metal that is being identified, also from compounds applied generously as past attempt at insect control.

Even if your quilts/textiles/costumes, don't reek of mothballs, protect yourselves and wear those nitrile gloves, folks, every time! Regards, Meg . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___________ Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator & Collections Management Consultant Professional Associate - AIC


Subject: Discouragement From: Sally Ward <> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:00:02 +0000 X-Message-Number: 1

Whilst the arsenic question is a serious concern, I smiled as I remembered a tactic a friend recommended a few years ago. We gardened and mowed an area of land in front of our house en route to a primary school, and the local dog walkers' field. Plants were regularly trampled and dogs regularly left deposits.

After mowing and weeding one day, I put up a sign saying 'Treated Area. Please keep children off'. What I had treated it with was their own conclusion, but it worked.

Sally Ward In Yorkshire, with heaps and heaps of snow and silent roads.


Subject: Arsenic in Antique Quilts From: Judy Knorr <> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:47:57 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

I'm sure a sign like that would discourage most people from touching the quilts. But, I still love the sign I saw at a quilt show that had a row of little Sunbonnet Sues dress in black and white stripes and connected with a chain stitch. The were marching in a row and the sign said "They touched the quilts!" Loved the sense of humor! Judy Knorr



Subject: Arsenic on quilts From: Linda Eaton <> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:24:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

Please be aware of, but not overly concerned about, the possibility of arsenic on your quilts! Arsenic powder was sometimes used in the past on wool to protect against moths and carpet beetles - not often, but sometimes. And Meg is right that other dangerous materials used to be used as well. So you should be aware of the possibility, but not terrified that all your quilts will poison you. 

One quilt from Winterthur's collection in the exhibition at the VMFA testedpositive for arsenic (which gave me the idea for that label), but it has been surface cleaned (carefully) and is no threat to visitors! We only suspected and then tested for it because we found residue of a white powder on the quilt. That is something that you want to watch out for. 

Most arsenic in historic dyes, especially on cotton, is chemically bound tothe fiber and is not normally a health problem. Arsenic-based dyestuffs did present a significant problem to the people who worked in the dye houses, but not to us today. Wallpaper is different - there it is often a loose. powdery pigment sitting on the surface that can easily come off.

If you are concerned about the possibility of arsenic on wool quilts, carefully vacuum them on both sides with low suction and use disposable gloves and a dust mask. If you do it through a screen, be sure to wash the screen afterwards, and then take a shower. You might not want to stroke the quilt,or lick it too often, or to breathe through it for hours on end, but otherwise it should be fine (you know I'm joking - right?). 

The point of that label was to prevent people touching the quilts on display. As we all know, quilts are very tactile things and we have had problemswith too many people touching the quilts in the exhibition, at Winterthur and at the other venues as well. We have tried to let people get close enough to the quilts to see the details that we all want to see, but we also need to protect the collection from long term damage. We have some inter-actives in one of our galleries here at Winterthur that we encourage people to touch, and you wouldn't believe how quickly the fabric gets black and grimey! 

I am so glad to know that people have enjoyed the exhibition. Richmond is the last venue and I, for one, will be very sad when it is over.


Linda Eaton Director of Collections & Senior Curator of Textiles Winterthur Museum Winterthur DE 19735


Subject: arsenic thank you From: Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:45:33 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1


I really appreciate Meg and Linda's wonderful thorough responses to my inquiry about arsenic on quilts. I am sorry I misquoted the sign, and trulyappreciate Meg being able to quote it.(I was with a non-quilter so I didn't get to go back through the exhibit a second time as I had hoped.) It isinteresting to think that arsenic was considered an everyday thing. Wonder what we are using today that will later be an "Oh my gosh! They used that in their house?"

Linda, I want to again compliment you on an amazing show and let you knowthat I promise to stop licking my quilts. (I loved that!)

In very very cold eastern NC......... Lynn Lancaster Gorges, New Bern, NC



Subject: Long-arm quilting From: CELIA EDDY <> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:46:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Message-Number: 2

I'm interested in researching the influence on current quilting trends ofthe growing practice of sending patchwork tops to be professionally quilted and/or finished on long-arm quilting machines. (Popularly known in UK as 'Quilting by cheque book!)Here in UK, this trend has become increasingly prevalent in recent years; as with many quilting enthusiasms, of course, it has its origins in the States so I'd be interested to know if it has generated the same arguments and discussions about 'ownershop' of quilts there as it has done here. I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who has thoughts on this subject which they'd be willing to share, or from anyone already pursuing lines of study on the subject. either through this List or personally. Best wishesCelia


Subject: mystery fabrics pieces From: Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:19:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

For those interested in my query about mystery pattern pieces posted on eBoard, the general consensus is that the pieces were dress pockets or arm hole cut-outs, rather than quilt pattern pieces.

Always interested in anyone else's thoughts, so I'll leave the fotos up for a few more days (under the quilt tab).

Appreciate your help, everyone! Neva Hart in Virginia


Subject: RE: Neva's Mystery Pattern From: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:02:09 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2

The cut-away theory makes sense to me, too. They may have been saved as something one could do something with - not knowing quite what that would be but not feeling they should be 'wasted'. I think they could become a 'footprint' quilt. Just curve the straight side of the pieces for an arch and appliqud them at random on a quilt...:) jean

> are cutaways from a factory dress maker. They appear to be pockets that were not sewn


Subject: RE: Neva's Mystery Pattern From: Sally Ward <> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 12:44:43 +0000 X-Message-Number: 3

I could see an applique daisy block, with the petals overlapped on one side of each other all the way round a yellow centre.

Sally Ward=


Subject: Pennsylvania color questions From: Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 12:41:40 EST X-Message-Number: 1


My antique reproduction quilt exchange group is currently reproducing a quilt top said to be from Pennsylvania circa 1880. Colors required for the album blocks are as follows:

Shirtings - white grounds with brown or black geometrics Small light prints White grounds with small flower sprigs - only 2 colors in flower Chrome yellow solids and prints Cheddar solids and prints Browns Madders Mourning prints

Added colors: Double pinks Perkins purple Indigo Lancaster blue prints

No green of any kind, heavy black, or conversationals

As I intend to enlarge the quilt and make additional blocks for myself, I am wondering if this fully represents the color palate and type of printed designs for the Pennsylvania quilter from about 1875 to 1890. I would like to fully represent the type of fabrics the Pennsylvania quilter would have been using at that time in the additional blocks I make for myself. So I am asking for help from those of you who are knowledgable in the history of Pennsyvania quilting. Thanks, Janet Henderson My antique reproduction quilt exchange group is currently reproducing a quilt top said to be from Pennsylvania circa 1880. Colors required for the album blocks are as follows:

Shirtings - white grounds with brown or black geometrics Small light prints White grounds with small flower sprigs - only 2 colors in flower Chrome yellow solids and prints Cheddar solids and prints Browns Madders Mourning prints

Added colors: Double pinks Perkins purple Indigo Lancaster blue prints

No green of any kind, heavy black, or conversationals

As I intend to enlarge the quilt and make additional blocks for myself, I am wondering if this fully represents the color palate and type of printed designs for the Pennsylvania quilter from about 1875 to 1890. I would like to fully represent the type of fabrics the Pennsylvania quilter would have been using at that time in the additional blocks I make for myself. So I am asking for help from those of you who are knowledgable in the history of Pennsyvania quilting. Thanks, Janet Henderson


Subject: PA color questions From: Paul and Nancy Hahn <> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:10:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Message-Number: 1

Hi Janet,

Why no green? And the deep reds. My favorite antique PA quilts are the red/pink/cheddar/green ones that always make me say, "Boy, would Cinda love that one!."I am now hand quilting my version of Liz Lois' Nearly Insane quilt repro that are those colors and just humming along with excitement as I handle all the fabrics. I am down in SC for the next few months, of course with my library back in Maryland, but check out the quilt photos in the early Lasansky "Pieced by Mother" symposium series and also the York and Lancaster quilt documentation books.

Nancy Hahn, Dataw Island, SC


Subject: Re: PA color questions From: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:22:53 EST X-Message-Number: 2

Dear Nancy, Thank you for your reply. The no green and no mention of reds bothered me as well. I think it is because of the palate the particular quilt top maker had to choose from. Thank you also for the suggested research books. Is there an "official" Pennsylvania documentation book as well? Regards, Janet Henderson


Subject: RE: Pennsylvania color questions From: "Candace Perry" <> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:21:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

I'm just seeing this, but we definitely have that green with the black overprinted flower very commonly in our local PA quilts. It's ubiquitous! Candace Perry


Subject: Re: qhl digest: December 04, 2010 From: Jan M <> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:23:10 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 4

Just because they're garment pieces doesn't mean they weren't meant for a quilt. I have a 30's mostly feedsack crazy quilt that contains a dress front and part of a sleeve. Of course the pieces could also have been cut into more recognizable quilt pattern shapes. Obtaining scraps from a nearby dress factory was a competitive endeavor for the women around whom I was raised in the 40's.

Jan Masenthin in NE Kansas


Subject: Re: Long-arm quilting From: Barbara Burnham <> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:51:52 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 5

Celia Eddy askedif this has generated the same arguments and discussionsabout 'ownershop' of quilts there as it has done here. If the quilt is made by more than one person, there are issues if the quilt is shown. Show categories are sometimes offered for two-person quilts, as opposed to group quilts, and many variations on that theme. Some shows stillrequire a two-person quilt to be in the group category.It is hotly debated in some circles thatalongarm quilter should be entitled to a portion of any winnings, even a duplicate ribbon, eventhough the longarmer has been paid for the work. Certainly they should be recognized andnamed as the longarm quilter, regardless of ownership.However, the quilt owner takes all the risks, timeand expenses of showing a quilt, including appraisals, insurances, photography,jurying, packing and shipping, etc. not to mention the risk of damage to the quilt in the process.What if the quilt is later sold for a high price? Now, add the issues of copyright, even just publishing a photo and caption of the quilt andmuddy the waters even more.It would behoove us to at least discussthese issues when hiring a longarm quilter, if not include themin any contractual agreement.Oh, the web we weave!Barbara in Historic Ellicott City


Subject: Re: Pennsylvania color questions From: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Message-Number:

I have been waiting for other more knowledgeable people to reply, such as Cinda Cawley, Barbara Garrett, Dr. Herr, Dawn Hefner et al. They may have responded privately.

When I had people makeblocks last year that"shouted" Pennsylvania, I told them to use Turkey red (prints or plain), double pink or blue, chrome yellow or orange (cheddar}, butterscotch, and poison green.Red and green are practically theofficial state quilt colors. Goodluck with your quilts.



Subject: Crazy Quilt questions From: Karen Alexander <> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:01:08 -0800 X-Message-Number: 7

A curator friend asked me the following questions about Crazy quilts. I have Cindy Bricks wonderful book but I don't feel I have enough knowledge to be the sole person to answer these questions. I sent my friend my take on the possible answers but thought this could be an interesting discussion on this list too and told her I would post her questions.

Question 1- were cotton Crazies embroidered?

> I have a later period crazy made of wool with little to no stitching on it but none of cotton. I think it would be very nice to have a cotton crazy quilt on hand as an example. So if we could borrow that one, I would appreciate it. Do you know if the cotton crazies were ever embroidered? Or do they often lack that trait?< >

Question 2 - Does a Dresden Plate surrounded by crazy patches in each block make it a Crazy?

> Is there a strict definition of crazy quilt? Does it have to be composed mainly of odd shaped pieces? I have one here that is a silk tie Dresden Plate with only the corners [background around each Dresden Plate) being crazy patches (1920's.) Would that one still be considered a crazy? <

Question 3 - Are there any stats on how many Crazies were <one whole block> vs multiple blocks so that we have a sense of percentage?

>Most of the ones we have are composed of smaller individual blocks which or may not have patches over the setting seams to "hide" the fact that it is made of smaller squares. Only one is a whole block construction. Have you seen many one block crazies?< >

Question 4 - this question is similar to the Dresden Plate question. When is a quilt a Crazy and when is it not?

> Another is "Sunshine & Shadows" with half the diagonal block being black the other half being crazy. It's in rough shape but I love the variation. Have you seen any along those lines? Another one is composed of diamonds with half being black and the other half strips of silks. It does have embroidery over the line between black and silk but would that qualify?<

I look forward to your feedback!

Karen in the Islands

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Subject: Re: PA color questions From: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:41:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Message-Number: 8

Dear Janet,

 Polly interjecting again. There are so many quilts in Pennsylvania that they are doing documentation books by the county.

Polly Mello

Elkridge, Maryland



Subject: Re: PA color questions From: Barb Garrett <> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 19:06:08 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

Hi Janet -

Pennsylvania is so blessed with quilts, that we have several "official" documentation books.

There are currently documentation books for these counties --

Lancaster - Quilting Traditions York - Fabric of Friendship Adams - The Hands That Made Them Franklin - Quilt Treasures of Yesteryear Schuylkill - Quilted Memories of Schuylkill County Chester - Layers

Also regional books for Goshenhoppen Historians -- Lest I Shall Be Forgotten -- southeastern Dutchy area Jeannette Lasansky's books from central PA A multi county one from around Lake Erie

If you wish to see good southeastern/south central Pennslyvania quilts, check out Sharon Stark's website -- it's beautiful. Click on "quilts" --

Definiely include printed green fabrics with your double blues, double pinks, butterscotch, solid cheddar, yellow and red. Think PA German folk culture coloration -- primary colors in bright tones.

I look forward to seeing the results of your project -- sounds wonderful. Sorry for the delay in writing, but I had a wonderful Christmas Season weekend, without computers.

Barb in southeastern PA


Subject: Pa. colors From: "Roberta (Bobbe) Benvin" <> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 19:04:26 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10


I would love to see a photo of the original quilt top. Is the quilt in a museum or a book? Who is it that is saying the quilt has Pa origins? Certainly, if the quilt came from eastern/southern/south central Pa it might reflect the Pa Germans' love of red, green, yellow, pink, and blue. The color description that I question is the "white grounds with small flower sprigs -- only 2 colors in the flower"...doesn't sound at all like it came from Pa Dutch country.

Perhaps your sample was made by "der English," or has a N.J., N.Y., or Maryland influence.

Roberta Benvin


Subject: cotton crazy From: Laura Fisher <> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:29:37 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 1

Hi all - re crazy quilts in cotton, I just sold such an appealing one last week that was 1870-80s prints --smallish random pieces organized in 25 squares. Every seam was embroidered in TWO parallel rows of briar stitchingwith cream color thread. The effect of the embroidery was like a light layer of netting atop a mutitude of earthy prints. Loved it, think I sold itbefore I photo'd it, but will check the camera and post if I did. The stitchery was over all the seams, and there was a scattering of embroidered motifs throughout (star, boot, heart) Come to think of it, other cotton crazies I have or had were embroidered just along the seams with no figural orfloral embellishments.  I am just posting on my website a rayon prints1940s crazy, also embroideredonlyat the seams. From my experience handling the full range ofcrazyquilts,cottonones are infrequently found, and their embroidery istypically done only along seams; few have the profusion of pictorial elements seen on silk crazy quilts . Wool crazies I've hadrange from incredibly elaborate embroidery justlike on silk ones, andnow that I think about it,havewords and sentiments way more oftenthan I have ever seen on silk ones. And of course they are pieced wool craziesthat haveno seam or other embroidery.

There are silk quilts that are pieced geometrics,not done in the crazy style,that are embroidered atevery seam too, with small motifs likeflowers addedsymmetrically throughout. There was a Crazy Stars with flowers in the 2004 quilt calendar. People sometimescall thesecrazy because of the embroidery.  And there are silk quilts pieced in crazy fashion with random shards, arranged in geometric quilt patterns but with no embroidery on a seam or anywhere. I think I havesuch aCrazy Bars pieced silk quilt onmy site now,with one or two tiny embroidered flowers snuck in. Guess the variety is asendless as the imagination.  Laura Fisher at FISHER HERITAGE 305 East 61st Street,5th floor New York, NY 10065


Subject: smoke damage From: Andi <> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:32:20 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2

You know how small-town America hides amazing gems? In the tiny town of Keota, Iowa, where we lived before I came to work at AQS, there is the Westendorf Costume Emporium. Built on the need of a 6'3" woman who married a 6"8" man and had four children who were too big to wear off-the-rack Halloween costumes, WCE is now the go-to costume supplier for every standard and not-so-standard musical, light opera and opera performance in the Midwest. From middle schools to high schools to professional companies, Janie, the proprietor, has designed and sewn made-to-order costumes for them all. She knows the theater pieces, she knows the characters, and she is period-accurate in her styles and fabrics.

Last week, a mere three weeks after her husband died in his sleep, the three buildings adjoining hers burned to the ground. A firewall saved her building, but can you even begin to imagine the smoke damage to all her costumes? Some 15,000 were in her inventory at last count. Some water damage has occurred, but the biggest issue is smoke and how to treat it, especially for the immediately upcoming performances she's supplying.

All of her costumes are washable. She just told me that using Downy (I assume fabric softener with heavy perfumes) is seeming to be the best at ridding must-be-worn-soon costumes of the smoke odor. My first thought, however, was this: that overlaid perfume will only work until a given actor starts to sweat in his/her costume, and then the odor will be worse.

Of course Janie has no way to delay providing costumes for scheduled performances or the time to make new ones. The entire building must be smoke-infused, and there is no alternative storage. (Keota is so small that the three buildings that are gone represented 15 percent of the town's commercial area.) I suggeated to her that some of us on the Quilt History List might have ideas or suggestions for two things: 1) immediate treatment for costumes that must be worn soon so she can stay in business; and 2) some idea(s) for dealing with the whole, huge mess of airing out all those textiles.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. Although she is a past president (I think) of the Costume Society of America and should have those folks available as resources, I get the idea that her personal tragedy has limited her ability to solve this issue herself, so I offered to pick your brains. I thank you for any help you can offer.

Andi in Paducah

PS - Were this the usual windy Iowa Spring, she could hang costumes outside all over town, but no, this is wet, cold winter...


Subject: Re: smoke damage From: Kris Driessen <> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:38:40 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 3

From my experience, NOTHING gets rid of smoke stains. Downy will get rid of the smell - permanently, I think. The smell doesn't seem to come back after washing. But that grayish yuck is there to stay. If all she has is the smell, washing with Downy will most likely work for her.



Subject: RE: smoke damage From: "Margaret Geiss-Mooney" <> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:04:33 -0800 X-Message-Number: 4

Good evening, QHLers - She should get hold of an ozone generator machine used by drycleaners and emergency restoration firms. The ozone is discharged in to a closed room where the costumes hang. Please note that the use of ozone should NEVER be used for anything that you want to save for the future as the ozone (the ozone also attacks fibres, dyes, embellishments indiscriminately). People CAN NOT be in the room when the ozone generator is on as it also attacks lung tissue. Usually 24 hours or less is needed to neutralize smoke odors. The costumes should still be washed to remove the smoke residues.

Please feel free to contact me off-line if further clarification is needed. Regards, Meg . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___________ Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator & Collections Management Consultant Professional Associate - AIC


Subject: smoke damaged - wash From: Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:41:21 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Smoke/soot is an oil based stain. I am sure the Ozone machine would be great, but for just regular washing...........use Arm and Hammer, Wisk, Tidewith stain remover, etc. Tide is the STRONGEST degtergent and rarely recommended, but in severe cases use it. Of course ALL FREE is the most gentledetergent, but it might not be strong enough. Soak in one of these "stainfighting" detergents and I think you will be fine. Think........removingoil stains. Also consider DAWN - Original. It is great for removing oil.

I know they are devastated, but thank goodness they weren't destroyed. Good luck, Lynn


Subject: Help in locating some authors of Uncoverings articles (apologies to those who have seen this list before) From: Mary Persyn <> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:21:51 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2

AQSG is in the process of a digitization project for Uncoverings, the AQSG journal. As part of the project I am trying to locate the mailing addresses of all former authors of Uncoverings articles. I have not been able to verify addresses for the people listed below.

If any of you can provide contact information for any of these folks, I'd appreciate it. Please respond to me off list.


Mary AQSG President

Pat Crothers Ellen Eanes Sunny Falling-Rain Jane Hindman Carolyn Kendra Heather Lenz Pat Long Kerry Maguire Margaret Malanyn Sherri Martin-Scott John Oldani Barbara Phillippi William Riffle Suzanne Yabsley

-- Mary G. Persyn Associate Dean for Library Services School of Law Library Valparaiso University 656 S. Greenwich St. Valparaiso, IN 46383 219-465-7830 FAX 219-465-7917


Subject: Smoke odors from a fire From: "Kathy Moore" <> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:05:51 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3

I can speak from personal experience.our house suffered a direct lightening strike in 1997. The house wasn't completely destroyed, but we were effectively burned out for 3 months ( comes the pun.I was burned up for longer that that!). The ozone machines did a fabulous job of removing the odor from our structure and everything in it. Margaret's advice is accurate. If applied correctly, there should not be any residual odor in her building after clean up and reconstruction is completed.

I agree with other advice regarding the washing to the costumes. It should be effective and, based on what Margaret said it will probably be safer for the costumes than exposing them to the ozone machines.

My condolences to your friend, Andi. It's a terrible thing to see a building and its contents destroyed by fire whether it's a family home or a business. The loss can often be incalculable and irreplaceable.

Best wishes to all on the list for happy holidays,

Kathy Moore

Lincoln, NE