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Subject: Quaker Quilts From: "Audrey Cameron" <audreycameron madasafish.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:50:38 +0100 X-Message-Number: 1

This came to me from H-Quilts and I am sending this for those who might  find it interesting:

A new blog has been started on Quaker quilt history. It aims to  provide information and resources for those interested in researching  historical quilts made and inscribed by members of the Religious  Society of Friends.

Bloggers are Lynda Salter Chenoweth and Mary Holton Robare, quilt  historians experienced in researching and publishing information  about quilts made by members of the Religious Society of Friends.  Their particular interest is in 19th century inscribed quilts that  document Quaker families and their communities.

See http://www.quakerquilthistory.com/

Audrey Cameron in a cold dreary Lincolnshire, England audreycameron madasafish.com ------

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Subject: Goggle - Quilt Theme From: "Louise" <ltiemann stny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 06:25:14 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Today's 'google art' is a quilter!

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Subject: Scots in the American Revolution From: Pepper Cory <pepcory clis.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:40:44 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

Just a jot of history here: after the battle of Culloden (1746) in which the cause of Charles Stuart was soundly beaten, a number of the defeated Scots were given the option of deportation rather than execution. They chose to come to America (or Australia) but also had to swear loyalty to the King. Thirty years later in South and North Carolina, some of these same Scots told their sons they could not fight (because of their oath) but told the boys nothing prevented THEM from fighting the British. Scots fought on both sides around here, some as Loyalists and others as American patriots. In Diana Galbadon's *Outlander* novels, she describes the delight of Scots veterans pot-shotting at the Redcoats and getting in their licks for Culloden. There's some truth to the notion. Pepper

-- Pepper Cory Teacher, author, designer, and quiltmaker 203 First Street Beaufort, NC 28516 (252) 726-4117

Website: www.peppercory.com and look me up on www.FindAQuiltTeacher.com

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Subject: RE: Scots in the American Revolution From: "Janet O'Dell" <janet techinfo.com.au> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:37:24 +1100 X-Message-Number: 4

Perhaps I should point out that in 1746 Australia was yet to be claimed for the British Crown by Captain Cook. That happened in 1770. Transportation to the colony did not start until 1787.

13/05/1787 The 11 ships of the FIRST FLEET left Portsmouth under the command of Capt Arthur Phillip. Different accounts give varying numbers of passengers but the fleet consisted of at least 1,350 souls of whom 780 were convicts and 570 were freemen, women and children and the number included four companies of marines. About 20% of the convicts were women and the oldest convict was 82. About 50% of the convicts had been tried in Middlesex and most of the rest were tried in the county assizes of Devon, Kent and Sussex.

Here is a timeline link FYI: http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/res-03.html

Janet O'Dell Melbourne Australia a free settler!

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Subject: This quilt should be in Julie Silber's Maverick collection! From: Karen Alexander <karenquilt rockisland.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:58:44 -0700 X-Message-Number: 5

http://karenquilt.blogspot.com/2011/10/teddy-bear-strangest-quilt-in-my.html

I can't seem to post to the QHL photo site so put it on my blog and wrote a bit about Teddy Bears.

Karen

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Subject: quilts related to temperance movement From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquilts yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1

Hi - someone asked me if the quilt patterns called T or Crossed T's and also the Drunkard's Path are related to or came out of the temperance  movement against alcohol consumption? Did the WCTU or other anti drinking o rganizations suggest that quilters make certain patterns to show thei r endorsement of the movement's philosopy? Also, is is true that the in digo blue and white pieced quilts of the later 19th century were made to  indicate affiliation with a group or general support of the cause? If you  might point me to any references about quiltmaking and temperance I woul d be most grateful.   Laura   Laura Fisher at FISHER HERITAGE 305 East 61st Street 5th floor New York, NY 10065

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Subject: quilt auction alert From: Rose Werner <erwerner3104 yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:11:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 2

Those of you who collect quilts may be interested in a charity auction on S aturday, October 29. It is called "Women Hanging by a Thread" and is sponso red by the School Sisters of Notre Dame in Mankato MN to raise funds for th eir work with needy women and their families. (This includes a school for i migrants, a drop-in shelter for the homeless, a temporary home for women co ming off drug abuse or an abusive home, and mission work in Africa and Guat emala.) 50 outstanding quilts (all donated) will be sold in a live auction   at 1:00 p.m. (Central time) which will also be on-line.  Included in  the 50 quilts are 3 antique quilts: #109 is a yo-yo quilt, #115 is a blue a nd white feathered star (late 19th Century), and #133 is a multi-colored Oh io Star with a wonderful blue floral fabric on the back. You can view the q uilts at www.Faheysales.com. Click on auctions, then scroll down to the dat e, Oct. 29.  If you are interested in bidding, you can find that informat ion on the site. If not, it's still a good quilt show. Rosie Werner --1708078780-38837766-1319307082=:50963--

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Subject: Quilters Flash Mob Video From: Karen Alexander <karenquilt rockisland.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:25:00 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3

http://quiltdoctor.blogspot.com/2011/10/aqs-quilters-flash-mob-video.html

I especially liked the song they sing at the end!

You can also find it on YouTube with links to other quilt happenings right near-by.

Karen in the Islands

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Subject: temperance quilts etc From: Pepper Cory <pepcory clis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:43:31 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Hello to Laura and other friends, I contacted the WCTU about the attribution of a sky blue and white Drunkard's Path pattern being the "official" quilt pattern of that organization. Was told 'no' and if any temperance groups (WCTU among them) made quilts for the cause, the impulse sprang from that individual group rather than from on-high. Remember: sky blue is associated with the suffragette cause (they wore sky blue sashes when parading) and understand that these causes: abolition of slavery, temperance, and women's rights all had ties to one another, both philosophically and many times in cross-over membership.

But both the Drunkard's Path and the Goblet pattern have been done in quilts by Temperance groups as I have seen three samples of signed ones. As to dark blue (navy) and white quilts representing any particular cause, blue has always been an American favorite color and even in the first quarter 19th century, there were efforts to replicate indigo blue using aniline methods, although officially dark blue synthetic dye was not widely available until late 19th century. And dark blue was the color of Union uniforms and, ahem, they did win The War. (I am capitalizing to emphasize how the Civil War is referred to in the South.) Having a fast dark blue dye available was a godsend to the home dyer as it eliminated the need for the stinky dye bath (in which human urine was one mordant).

Like 'red's always the center of Log Cabin blocks' , I'd take any historic information on the symbolism of a the color blue with a grain of salt.

Pepper (who is still longing for an old-fashioned solid Indigo blue, that shade that has an undercurrent of green. Rather like the dark blue of Marine dress uniform pants.) No other comment.

-- Pepper Cory Teacher, author, designer, and quiltmaker 203 First Street Beaufort, NC 28516

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Subject: instructions from'headquarters' about which pattern to make From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquilts yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1

Pepper- thanks so much for the information about blue and white and tempera nce quilts, suggesting the tradition was individual or local, rather than a directive from national headquarters of an organization. As I have now s een several redwork signature quilts arrayed as squares with openwork star  variations that are connected to the Methodist Episcopal Church, and  several five point star tithing quilts from Order of the Eastern Star gro ups, the same question applies about these specific designs. Perhaps so me patient quilt historian will unearth a written directive from or the identity of a pattern creator connected to any of the organizati ons from which we have seen identical quilts used to raise funds. I am cu rious how they emerged in distant locations looking the same?!    Laura Fisher at FISHER HERITAGE 305 East 61st Street 5th floor New York, NY 10065

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Subject: "An Obituary Quilt." From: suereich charter.net Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:04:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 2

I thought this article might be appropriate for this time of year. It appeared in at least 5 newspaper in 1898 - 1899.

The Arizona Republican Phoenix, Arizona April 12. 1899 Page 7

Reno Evening Gazette Reno, Nevada January 28, 1899 Page 3

New Oxford Item New Oxford, Pennsylvania February 10, 1899 Page 2

The Lima News Lima, Ohio January 2, 1899 Page 7

Freeborn County Standard Albert Lea, Minnesota December 28, 1898 Page 2

AN OBITUARY QUILT. --------------- The Queer Donation of Women of a Maine Parish to Their Pas- tor's Wife. "Many queer gifts come to the min- ister of a New England church at the annual donation visit of his parishion- ers, but the oddest and creepiest thing of the kind that I ever knew of I en- countered once in northern Maine," said A. E. Stetson, a member of a New York publishing firm. "I was a book canvasser then, selling religious works, and I stayed one night at the house of a Baptist preacher in the little back country town of Monson, since become somewhat prominent through the de- velopment of its slate quarries. The preacher was a man of deep erudition, known far and wide for his unworldli- ness and apostolic piety, and his wife was a notable housekeeper. There was a good supper, and at nine o'clock in the evening prayers. These over I went to bed in the best room and after the day's hustling, slept soundly. "Waking in the bright morning sun- light my attention was attracted by the odd pattern of the quilt which served as a counterpane on my bed. It was a patchwork quilt made in large squares, and on every square was a lettering worked in black worsted. In the square immediately before my eyes I spelled out the words: 'Sacred to the memory of Solomon Tubbs. Died Oct. 8, 1867.' In the next square was inscribed: 'In memory of Martha Phil- lips. Born June 11, 1833. Died Jan. 14, 1864.' On every square was an obituary notice couched in a style similar to the first one that I read, and they covered a time running from 1851 to 1867. The quilt, which I learned afterward was presented to the pastor's wife by the women of her husband's congregation, combined the utilities of a counterpane with the record of deaths in the parish for a term of 16 years. That it was spread in the best chamber showed that it was reserved for guests as a mark of high consideration. "At first sight the memento mori character of the inscriptions was a trifle appalling to a man just awakened. But being a guest at the same house for some subsequent nights I got used to the obituary quilt and even derived a certain enjoyment from studying out the inscriptions of mornings before I got up from bed. So familiar did they become to me that I could have repeated them all in order by the time I quitted my canvassing field in Maine to take up my present business in the metropolis." -N.Y. Sun.

Sue Reich Washington Depot, Connecticut www.suereichquilts.com http://coveringquilthistory.com/ http://www.majorreichaward.com/

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Subject: Re: "An Obituary Quilt." From: xenia cord <xenia legacyquilts.net> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:51:03 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3

I wonder where that quilt is now? -Xenia

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Subject: Fw: speaking of wondering From: "Marcia's Mail" <marciark earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:33:13 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:57 AM Subject: speaking of wondering

.....I am wondering where the Jonathan Shannon Dia de los Muertos quilt  is now. We just had a huge celebration here in Austin and it made me  go......"HMMMMMMMMMM"... Marcia

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Subject: wondering.... From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ss yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 5

I'd start by asking Polly Mello.  She has the best collection of creepy q uilts EVER!  Susan

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Subject: Re: "An Obituary Quilt." From: textique aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:19:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 6

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My thought too Xenia. What a find that would be!  

Gertrude Comer Miller tried using the family 'Hand' quilt given to her by aunt Margaret Blosser but her husband Simeon Miller would have none of it. He said sleeping under all those people's hands gave him the willies.

Jan Thomas

I wonder where that quilt is now? -Xenia

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Subject: Re: instructions from'headquarters' about which pattern to make From: textique aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:00:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 7

If anyone is researching this...Nancy Kirk told me some time ago, she has a blue and white with a  proven connection to a WCTU organization (made by one of Nancy's relatives) . She would welcome  researcher inquiries.  

Jan Thomas

"Perhaps some patient quilt historian will unearth a written directive from or the identity  of a pattern creator connected to any of the organizations from which we ha ve seen  identical quilts used to raise funds. I am curious how they emerged in dist ant locations looking the same?"  

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Subject: Where are the quilts from these articles of the past? From: suereich charter.net Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:04:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 8

I have often thought just that! Where are these quilts? QHL and AQSG members are everywhere is this country. It is my hope that some day, someone will say "I know that quilt and just where to find it." Most of the articles are specific enough and narrowing down a location should be simple but time consuming. I found the obituary quilt article sometime ago but was reluctant to report it. By the way, in Connecticut, we documented all black and shades of black Crazy quilts with the provenance of being coffin quilts. No proof other than hearsay.

Practices and attitudes about birth, dying and death in the 19th Century are very different from our 21st Century ways. Today, we have sterilized human comings and goings, and place these phases of life in institutions. I am always sensitive about giving mourning quilts or photos a Halloweenish connotation. When the mourning quilts were made, they were not seen in this way. The quilt article I presented shows a definite "creepy" reaction from the house guest.

Sue Reich Washington Depot, Connecticut www.suereichquilts.com http://coveringquilthistory.com/ http://www.majorreichaward.com/

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Subject: RE: instructions from'headquarters' about which pattern to make From: "Larry Wohlgemuth" <larryw greenhills.net> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:22:24 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

It is quite possible that the makers themselves felt that those patterns made the statement they were trying to convey. Maybe they heard about  one or saw one, and jumped on the bandwagon. Hence, the popularity of kit quilts. People tend to want what others have. Just one possibility.

Sherrie Wohlgemuth Missouri

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: pollymello comcast.net Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:59:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Message-Number: 10

  I , of coarse know the "Dia de las Muertas" quilt but I do not know  it's current whereabouts. Wasn't it selected as one of the 100 best quilts  of the twentieth century and I remember a controversy when it first came ou t. 

   I have collected many quilts of a creepy nature for my trunk show "Q uilts That Go Bump in the Night". This trunk show is NOT about Halloween bu t I am often asked to give it near Halloween. It is the darker side of quil ting and needle work.  And I do own morning quilts. They are tangible o bjects of mourning. I also have quilts about presidential assisination , a  Lindbergh's Kidnapping quilt, Titanic embroidery pieces. These are dark and serious subjects that I try to present in a serious but not depressing man ner. I think that many quilts have been made to acknowledge times of mourni ng and tradgedy and it is  a part of American and, of interest to us, q uilt history study  to look at the roll that these quilts played in the lives of their makers. It is a delicate line to walk presenting this subje ct and these quilts in a manner palatable and , yes, entertaining.  I j ust finished 4   trunk shows. I am  glad to have a platform  fr om which  I am able to present these rare quilts many that would rarely if ever seen anywhere else. 

Polly Mello 

Elkridge, Maryland 

   

I must say, that I do also love Halloween but that is another story. 

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: "Avalon" <malthaus idcnet.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:13:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11

http://www.allianceforamericanquilts.org/qsos/interview.php?kid=14-31-87 

Here is the interview with Jonathan Shannon.

Mary

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Subject: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: Gaye Ingram <gingram suddenlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 0:23:57 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Polly Mello wrote re mourning quilts, etc:

"It is a delicate line to walk presenting this subject and these quilts in a manner palatable and , yes, entertaining. I just finished 4 trunk shows. I am glad to have a platform from which I am able to present these rare quilts many that would rarely if ever seen anywhere else. " ---------

Polly, all one can do is honor the makers' intentions, try to make an audience aware of conventions of a different time.

Isn't it interesting that along with her friends, a woman could sign her name to a block and we would be completely open to the aesthetic possibilities of the resulting quilt. But if, a month later, she dies and her family members create a quilt in remembrance of her life, we would feel entirely different about that?

Maybe it's the somber colors? Or maybe we don't like the idea of sleeping under such a quilt because it reminds us that we too are mortal? However salutary that thought might be spiritually, considered too closely, it seldom does much good.

I confess I've thought of mourning quilts that are also celebrations of the deceased's life, of the joys we associate with the person. I've wondered if contributing to such a quilt in memory of Cinda would help me stop looking for her name on this list, her presence at AQSG seminar, her voice at the other end of the phone when I have a question or insight about something we've discussed before.

Maybe it's my awareness of grammar, but I've always been shocked at how quickly all of us shift verb tense when a person dies. Sometimes it happens in seconds. Yet a neighbor whose daughter died at age 5 told me she sometimes found herself setting a place at the table for her a decade later. We all know that experience. Our verbs catch up before our minds.

So mourning quilts probably had a sound spiritual and psychological function. I can imagine they still would, especially if we knew the resulting quilt would have meaning for the bereaved or the community. The quilt described in the article Sue quoted for us no doubt later was passed on to the next minister's wife, knowing in her position she was an informal keeper of community memories and records. And then, the writer had the names and dates down by the time he left. I doubt he was supposed to use the quilt for cover, though.

Long before Freud, English poet Thomas Grey wrote his famous "Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard" (1742-1750: he was a slow writer) in which he meditated on all this. In fact, Grey was one of several well-known English poets in the late 18th century known as "The Graveyard Poets" because of their considerations of death and those left behind. Lugubriousness and the Gothic were "in" then.

In case you are ever feeling entirely too chirpy or perky, I give you this antidote, a small section from Grey's "Elegy." It'll work every time. Its psychology is right, though the poem is so sentimental it would take somebody like Emmeline Grangerford from "Huck Finn" to read it all the way through. This is the cheerful part (the "they" is the country people buried in the churchyard):

"Far from the madding crowd's ignoble strife, Their sober wishes never learned to stray; Along the cool sequestered vale of life They kept the noiseless tenor of their way.

Yet even these bones from insult to protect Some frail memorial still erected nigh, With uncouth rhymes and shapeless sculpture decked, Implores the passing tribute of a sigh.

Their name, their years, spelt by the unlettered muse, The place of fame and elegy supply: And many a holy text around she strews, That teach the rustic moralist to die.

For who to dumb Forgetfulness a prey, This pleasing anxious being e'er resigned, Left the warm precincts of the cheerful day, Nor cast one longing lingering look behind?

On some fond breast the parting soul relies, Some pious drops the closing eye requires; Ev'n from the tomb the voice of nature cries, Ev'n in our ashes live their wonted fires."

Depressed now, Gaye

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Subject: RE: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: Gloria Hanrahan <gloria ak.net> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:48:02 -0800 (AKDT) X-Message-Number: 2

I believe we need to include the practical aspect of a mourning quilt. Keeping hands and mind busy in a time of sorrow is universal. Quilts would have just been an extension of that need. I'm sure most quilts made that way didn't even get labeled as a mourning quilt--specifically.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:23 PM , Gaye Ingram wrote:

> Polly, all one can do is honor the makers' intentions, try to make an > audience aware of conventions of a different time. > > Isn't it interesting that along with her friends, a woman could sign > her name to a block and we would be completely open to the aesthetic > possibilities of the resulting quilt. But if, a month later, she dies > and her family members create a quilt in remembrance of her life, we > would feel entirely different about that?

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 24, 2011 From: Kaytriplet aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:33:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 3

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I am in Mexico right now, and we haven't started the Dia de los Muertos celebrations yet here. I think it is a bigger holiday in Texas than Mexico - like Cinco de Mayo.

If you are looking on the internet for the quilt the actual name is Amigos Muertos. The link below shows the quilt if you aren't familiar with it.

_http://www.pbs.org/americaquilts/century/stories/jonathan_shannon.html_ (http://www.pbs.org/americaquilts/century/stories/jonathan_shannon.html)

Kay in Cancun with a hurricane headed my way.

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 24, 2011 From: Kaytriplet aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:40:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 4

_http://blog.thequiltcomplex.com/2009/11/you.html_ (http://blog.thequiltcomplex.com/2009/11/you.html

Julie Silber had organized a tour in the San Francisco area including a visit with Jonathan Shannon. According to her blog, he had the quilt available during the tour in 2009. He could have sold it since then, or borrowed it back for the tour, but Julie can probably tell us.

K watching the frigate birds wind surfing on the hurricane force winds in Cancun and having a great time

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Subject: Mourning quilts From: " Barb Vlack" <cptvdeo sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:01:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

With the spirit found in mourning quilts in our quilt history, I am  making one that is most personal. This may be off-topic if we want to talk of  just historical quilts here, but the inspiration came from our history.

I hope that my mourning quilt could be uplifting rather than mournful in attitude. I mentioned in a post a month or two ago that I was  hand-piecing a quilt as I kept my husband company during his short bout with cancer.  The quilt is a continuation (hopefully to completion) of one my mother  started in 1988 and left as part of her legacy of works in progress. It has a  lot of open spaces around scrappy 8-pointed stars. I intend to machine  embroider sentiments I find comforting from sympathy cards, hymns and Bible verses  we read at Dave's memorial service. There will be memories of my mother and  of Dave stitched into this quilt. I recently got a few ties that were my  dad's, so I will probably piece one of them into the quilt as well. I lost  these three people so very dear to me within the past three years.

As an extension of this quilt project, I made a quilted pall to cover  the urn containing Dave's ashes at the memorial service. I used a variation  of the LeMoyne Stars I had hand-pieced during his illness and made a  Morning Star block for the center. Dave was an electrical engineer, and I used  quilt fabric that had a circuit board design. I used a silk tie that Dave  often wore that also had a circuit board design. The background of this 24=94  square piece was cut from Dave's monogrammed silk shirt, and the monogram is centered on one of the patches. I made composite beads from resistors  from his extensive stash/collection and glass beads from mine to make a  fringe around the perimeter. The backing fabric had phrases from our wedding  vows (and everyone else's, since this was a widely available fabric at one  time). The quilting had some personal notes in it. I had six weeks from the  time of Dave's death to his memorial service to make this piece, but I didn't  think of doing something like this until a week before the service. All of a sudden it became a must-do, and it was a sad, though comforting,  activity.

I want to sleep under my mourning quilt because it will remind me of  ways to be positive and move on with good memories and bright hope. 

I don t know the sentiments of those who made mourning quilts that we  view now as being dreary. An obituary quilt may be a way of recording lives  of people of a certain congregation, where otherwise we may lose track of  them as headstones fall or gravesites are scattered away from a central  meeting place of a congregation. Well-meaning ladies of the church might think  it a wonderful gift to their minister (though that minister's wife may think differently). Especially in the Victorian era, black and very dark  colors were used to denote mourning. Our interest now in doing searches on the names on a particular obituary quilt speaks well for the continuing remembrance of those who have passed on. Isn't that the point?

Barb

Barb Vlack barb barbvlack.com I have fulfilled a $1000 fund raising promise for Alzheimer's research  and am working on a second $1000 pledge. Cheer me on at:   www.AlzQuilts.org 

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Subject: Beautiful, Barbara. From: suereich charter.net Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:13:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 6

 

Thank you for sharing your personal mourning quilt.

Sue Reich Washington Depot, Connecticut www.suereichquilts.com http://coveringquilthistory.com/ http://www.majorreichaward.com/

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Subject: unusual quilts From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ss yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:17:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 7

I think I owe Polly a followup note about her presentation and collection o f "creepy" quilts.

One really has to hear her presentation to appreciate the depth and breadth of her collection and her research.  Yes, we kid her and enjoy the "who  would have thought it"  chuckles - well, ok, laughter.   But, you com e away having really seen the different  mental and intellectual landscap e of earlier times.  It's quite a collection, and very, very illuminating .  

That it is entertaining doesn't hurt!!!   Susan

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Subject: Re: Sue Reich From: Pat Kyser <patkyser hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:20:44 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8

A plug for Sue Reich who spoke to the Heritage Quilters of Huntsville  (AL) last week. She had been here in the summer to lead an inspiring  and learned gallery walk on her World War II quilts on display at our  Huntsville Museum of Art. She came back to speak to HQH on WWII itself,  giving back ground and showing how war efforts involved the citizenry  and impacted all our lives, as well as sharing the mores and past times  of the era. It was more than excellent. Those my age were taken back to our grade  school years and involvement with paper drives, ration books, Blue  Stars, and of course, victory gardens. I've always felt, if you did not  have a family member serving overseas, the early forties was a wonderful  time to be a child in the U.S. Love of country, a strong sense of  belonging, and pride in everything American were integral parts of my  childhood. Sue made it vitally alive again. And she offered a new history lesson to our younger members who had no  idea of the power of that era in all our lives. Her lecture should be  mandatory for all high schoolers these days. If she's going to speak and you think it is just about the wonderful  array of WWII quilts, think again. She will open a whole area of  American history to you in a vital and inspiring manner. Don't miss it! Pat Kyser

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Subject: RE: unusual quilts From: "Candace Perry" <candace schwenkfelder.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:00:43 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9

Just to chime in -- I think people really enjoy this kind of thing. I do talks on pow wow (PA German folk healing) and paranormal traditions, and people really enjoy them-- even those you wouldn't expect to. I think a presentation like Polly's makes it safe for people to delve into that  aspect of the human experience. Everyone can relate to it, whether they've lost loved ones- and who hasn't- or have read the news stories surrounding  the tragedies. Candace Perry  

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Subject: Where to get your "Why Quilts Matter: History,Art & Politics" DVD in Houston From: Shelly Zegart <zegartquilt gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:11:09 -0400 X-Message-Number: 10

* *If you're going to Houston for the International Quilt Festival or Mar ket be on the lookout for *Why Quilts Matter: History, Art & Politics* DVDs*. *We ll have a limited number available for purchase. Pick one up before they run out! Select booths will be selling the series DVD or providing order forms! Check out our site for details. http://www.whyquiltsmatter.org/welcome/why-quilts-matter-history-art-politi cs-in-houston-november-2011/

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Subject: Odd qults From: Pepper Cory <pepcory clis.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:16:44 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11

I enjoyed the post about the death memorial quilt and can add another tale along these lines. In the late 1960s my father was an Episcopal minister in Sumter, SC. He served both white and black churches. One of the black churches gave him a quilt as a parting gift when he left for Kentucky. The quilt block pattern was along the lines of a Roman Square (four divisions, several strips in each quarter, generally looks like a basketweave). The fabrics were odd, a rather slick texture, and all bright solid shades, and the whole thing made an odd papery sound when the quilt was moved. Upon inquiry, my mother learned that the quilt had been made from grave bouquet ribbons and that it was traditional, in this church, to present the minister with such a quilt! Unfortunately the quilt was also rather fragile as the quality of floral ribbons had declined since the custom started. I remember an odd tattered quilt, shedding pieces of ribbon, that was used for a little while. Don't know what happened to the relic. Pepper

-- Pepper Cory Teacher, author, designer, and quiltmaker 203 First Street Beaufort, NC 28516 (252) 726-4117

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Subject: RE: Where are the quilts from these articles of the past? From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:53:57 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12

I agree about finding the quilts. I've run across many references to  quilts being sent to presidents ... and I wonder where they are. I'd also love to track down the ribbon-winners from the 1800s county  fairs in Nebraska. How many lives does a quilt historian get? Anybody know? Because I need  more than one.  Stephanie Whitson  

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Subject: RE: instructions from'headquarters' about which pattern to make From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:00:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13

That would require a lot of hours reading minutes to meetings and paging through reports ... but wow it would be SOMETHING to find Just that! Stephanie Whitson

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:07:30 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14

Was mourning/death/dying different for 19th century mourners? Was death  "just part of life" for them? No less tragic or sorrowful, but not  imbued with that "creepy" factor? When wakes were in the home and people  died at home, I wonder if the attitude towards this part of it was  different. In other words, a mourning quilt may have been much less  "notable" to them than it is to us? I don't know the answer. I pose it  for thought.

Has anyone read the Widow of the South? That book (and then visiting  Carnton Plantation) raised questions about this for me, because the  soldiers buried at Carnton in the Confederate Cemetery had already been  buried once. Then they were disinterred and moved to the plantation  burial ground. My 21st century self shudders at that because of what it  meant in terms of "creepiness." But still ... they did it. Often in the  19th century, from what little I know about it. I wonder what they felt  about it. Did it horrify them as it would me ... or was it just a duty  to be done. 

With disease and illness requiring long home stays and the handling of  all kinds of issues and physical problems that we generally hire out to  nurses, hospitals, and nursing homes ... I just wonder if the "creep  factor" was less for them. 

Stephanie Whitson   

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: "Candace Perry" <candace schwenkfelder.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:15:05 -0400 X-Message-Number: 15

I think so, wholeheartedly. There were caskets in the parlor and daguerreotypes and tintypes of deceased relatives. There were published broadsides about murders and tragic deaths that were widely distributed. If you also look at the religious/spiritual aspect (and I only speak for Protestants) people were much more tied into their faith, on a daily basis, and might have had a far different view about the end of life than we do today. There was a promised reward for a good Christian. That was important.

Candace Perry

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: "Leah Zieber" <leah.zieber verizon.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:55:59 -0700 X-Message-Number: 16

In response to mourning - My mother passed away this past July and the woman who worked at the funeral home was from Louisiana (now living in California). She was a lovely woman in her mid to late 30s that was just nice enough to be quirky considering where she worked. When I came to view the body prior to closing the casket she asked would I like to have my picture taken with my mother's body. I politely said no thank you and then curiosity got the better of me. I asked with a girn and a whisper, "Why on earth would I want a picture of me with my mother's dead body?" She explained that in the South where she comes from they often have photo albums on their coffee tables with the pictures of the deceased. She went on to explain that (and I quote), "If Grandma had never met Little Susie, then Little Susie's mom will put the baby near the body and snap a photo so that the family can have a memory of the deceased. They keep the pictures in an album on the coffee table and when family comes they talk about the deceased" Now I thought this was a little weird, and I said so, but she said this was common practice down South. Is it? I wonder if any of you from "The South" can speak to this.

Leah Z PS - I think Mourning Quilts are a wonderful way for the mourner to put together something tangible to hold and wrap around themselves when feeling sad. And I don't think the fabrics have to come from clothes. just making a special quilt as you go through the mourning process is cathartic - I know this from experience.

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: Judy Schwender <sister3603 yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 17

Here are a group of contemporary quilts made from clothing of the deceased: http://www.passagequilts.com/quilts.htm --971950038-2377614-1319566354=:63751--

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: pollymello comcast.net Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:19:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Message-Number: 18

I  did offer  to present these quilts as a study center for the Am erican Quilt Study Group.  It appears  there might have been    a  some interest.     It would have been a very interesting   venue to have had   an interactive discussion on this subject. But,  I can only bring them to a seminar within driving range. There is too    much effemera that goes with these quilts.     Also t here is mu ch to cover on this topic: maternal and infant mortality, 19th century atti tudes towards death and mourning,   epidemics,   life expectancy, t he culture and practices of mourning,  quilts and other needlework    and the grieving process,   quilts mourning asassi nated presidents, m ourning themes as home decor, ch ildren and death etc. etc. 

Polly Mello 

Elkridge, Maryland 

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Subject: Mourning quilt From: Sarah Hough <dougandsarah1 gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:53:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 19

After the note from Barb describing her beautiful quilt, I am hesitant to tell you about mine but here goes.

My husband died in March after a long illness. We kept going until almost the end. Our last trip was a cruise on the Adriatic at Christmas. He was my best friend, travel companion and thoroughly nice person. We didn't have a memorial service, we had a bon voyage party. Everyone who came told Doug stories and some of his bad jokes. We laughed and cried.

The quilt I have in my head is a crazy quilt made of some of his travel tee shirts. He was the original "have to have a tee shirt" everywhere we went. Incorporated in the quilt will be some material from some of his shirts, ties and other memorabilia. The center of the quilt will be an embroidered caricature of Doug in scuba gear being bitten on the butt by a shark. The local artist who did the caricature has given me permission to use it. All of it is still in my head except the center.

After reading this over, I can see I need help ... Teddy, I need you.

Sarah

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: quiltnsharron charter.net Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:41:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 20

There seems to be something to that, Leah. My husband's family (all  born in Texas) has a VHS tape that was transferred from a very old film.  It shows everyone in the family saying goodbye to Grandpa. It's very  grainy but still obvious in its content. It lasts about 15 minutes. I  was born and raised in northeast Kansas and had never seen anything like  this but, oddly enough, never really gave it much thought.

Warm regards, Sharron

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Subject: RE: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: quiltnsharron charter.net Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:05:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 21

> Depressed now, > Gaye > > Don't be depressed, Gaye. I loved the poem and since no one's close enough to point me out to the men in white suits with that jacket that has long arms, I'll share my thoughts.

I love to make quilts from the clothing of people who have passed away. I feel honored when I'm asked and I would love to advertise with support groups but I don't want to look like I'm preying on people at a very bad time in their lives. Things happen that I can't really explain when I'm working with these clothes. Like the lady who lost her 18yr old daughter in a car wreck. A passage from Psalms kept playing in my head. It was making me nuts. As I finished piecing I needed an additional block and embroidered the passage. The mother just about had a fit. It was her daughter's favorite passage. Things like that happen a lot when I'm piecing these quilts. My favorite story is from the longarmer that used to do my quilting for me. I was always telling her how there seemed to be these feelings in the air as I work. She thought I was a loon. I had the opportunity one time to make a quilt for a Scotsman's wife out of the Scotsman's ties. He was quite a card and had some very tasteful but cute ties. My work room was really filled with sunshine while I worked on that top. Many, many months after the quilt was finished and delivered my longarmer confided in me one day. When she had that quilt on the frame she said there was the presence of a man dancing around her sewing room. She hated to share that with me because it bothered her a bit but she finally understood what I was feeling.

If I could do nothing but make quilts from loved one's clothes the rest of my life I'd be thrilled, even the nasty, dirty, smelly, yucky ones!

Warm regards,

Sharron................from Spring, TX where we're getting ready for Quilt Festival! Yeehaw!!!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~ Sharron K. Evans www.treetopquilting.com Phone: 281-350-3498 Spring, TX ~~~~~~~~~~~

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: Gloria Hanrahan <gloria ak.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:18:59 -0800 (AKDT) X-Message-Number: 22

I believe geographical differences created many different rituals. Those of us from immigrants who lived in crowded tenement housing didn't have a casket in the home. There wasn't room with so many people crowded into such small spaces.

My husband is from Chicago, (Irish and Polish) and they have rituals that are so strange to me. Coming from the Kansas City area where families brought food to the home, his rituals are finger foods brought to the funeral home for people to eat during the wake, with the grieving family expected to take selected guests out to eat (and pay for it) after the service. Not everyone who attends the funeral is welcome to attend.

I believe these are remnants of families crowded together and not having room in the apartments in large cities. Our religions haven't changed any within the past 150 years. If one is raised Catholic or Protestant, the beliefs are the same for the afterlife.

Gloria Hanrahan

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: Quilltr aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:36:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 23

I'm from the North, and we always took pictures of relatives in their caskets. I never really thought of it as odd. I know some people do, though. I guess it's just what you are brought up with. Now that you're talking about it, I guess it does seem strange to pose your children around an open casket.

Lisa

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: "Marcia's Mail" <marciark earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:15:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 24

I have a fabulous old photo of members of my husband's family in Lithuania posed around the patriarch's casket (open). Taken out of doors in the winter no less! Era is late 1800s-1900. Marcia Kaylakie

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:47:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 25

I just got a photograph on e-mail of a woman standing gazing down at her husband in his casket holding his hand. We had corresponded through this dear man's cancer battle because I had "been there" with my first husband. At any rate ... the photo seemed so odd to me ... for modern day. So this post about the southern custom at least tells me it isn't as "odd" as I thought. I cannot imagine wanting a photograph of my beloved husband in his casket. I worked hard to erase that memory and get back to the good ones from when he was alive and well.

Stephanie Whitson

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: "Larry Wohlgemuth" <larryw greenhills.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:56:35 -0500 X-Message-Number: 26

I live in Missouri and we do not take pictures with the deceased but take pictures of them. I always am the one chosen to get a picture before everyone gets there. They are not photos we look at very often but when someone else passes we usually look back at these and talk about them.

Sherrie Wohlgemuth Missouri

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Subject: re memorializing dead loved ones in folk art From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquilts yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 1

Look in folk art and sampler/needlework books for pictures of fabulous folk y mourning pictures  done in needlework. They are often silk on silk, and in certain NYState Albany memorial needleworks they are "en grisaille" works (black and white) embroidered with human hair. Sometimes the memoria ls have watercolor figures and landscapes of the town where the deceased li ved, and some even have printed paper death notices applied to the tomb .Many figures stand bereft at the gravesites or in the churchyard cemet ery, sometimes the ladies have handkerchiefs held to their weeping face s, and the men are in black hat and clothing, and often children are depi cted too. Making a work of art to commemorate the departed and to frame for  display is a tradition taught in schoolgirl academies that dates fro m early in U.S history; the best of late 18th-early 19th c mourning works  fetch high prices in the tens of thousands at folk art auctions, a n indication that the creepiness factor seems not to have affected this ar ea of collecting!  

Laura Fisher at FISHER HERITAGE 305 East 61st Street 5th floor New York, NY 10065

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Subject: p.s. on mourning textiles From: Laura Fisher <laurafisherquilts yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:48:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 2

In the Gee's Bend book is an abstract eloquent quilt made from the worn wor k clothing of a widow's husband, nearly monochromatic with a beautiful we athered variety of denim blues. So many people stood in front of it and see med to enjoy it all the more when reading the note about the maker wantin g an intimate reminder of her husband by constructing the quilt from his  work clothes.   Laura

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Subject: re Mourning Customs/South From: Gaye Ingram <gingram suddenlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 4:18:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

The South is a big place with varying customs, but I can only say that in m y part of Louisiana---Central Louisiana and the North-Central hill country- --it is not general fashion among people I know to have an album of photogr aphs taken of family members with the body of a dead person. On the coffee  table or anywhere else.

But in making such a statement, I must quickly observe that there are group s within groups. I would not be surprised to learn there are people in this parish who do just that. In fact, now that I've heard of it, I would be su rprised if some here did NOT do it. What we've been exposed to, religious c ustoms (they vary even within denominations), ethnicity, family traditions, and personal relationships enter into such behaviors. 

And while we don't often discuss it in general groups, our belief or lack o f belief in an afterlife where we will in some way be reunited with those w e lose in this life makes a big difference in the way we respond to deaths. In my own limited experience, I've found that people with the simplest, su rest faith in a life beyond this mortal coil are more likely to engage cons iderations and rituals of death more freely and perhaps more elaborately.  

I am familiar with the funeral ribbon "quilts" Pepper mentioned, though the only one I knew directly was made for the family of the deceased---and in tercepted by a kinswoman who recognized its inappropriateness in the given  situation. In this area, they are common among African-American Protestant  women and are given to family members. They are not made for practical pur poses, but for decoration. 

Several years after my father died, my mother gave me a quilt top, a "strin g" quilt, paper-pieced into squares that were then joined. She said that th e year my father died in March, all spring, summer, and early fall she work ed in her garden from early morning until she was so weary she could barely move in late afternoon. Then she came into the house, bathed, ate a cold s upper, went to bed and directly to sleep because she was physically exhaust ed. She told me she followed that routine until winter forced her indoors.  Then, she pulled out her own and her mother's scrap bags and started sewing the blocks to that string quilt on her sewing machine. Sometimes, she sai d, she purchased small lengths of brightly colored fabric when she was in a local dime store. She sewed the way she had gardened. I set the top with a wide border of a red solid fabric that picked up the reds in the quilt, an d I had it quilted. One year when I helped with a quilt exhibit in our loca l museum, we flew that quilt as a flag. Unless you knew, you would never ha ve imagined its somber origin. When I look at that quilt, I feel like the p robably mythical Aunt Jane who said it almost frightened her to look at a c ertain quilt because of all the thoughts and experiences, good and bad, tha t were embodied in that quilt. My mother was a meticulous needlewoman and f or her to sew anything so "haphazard" reveals almost more than I can easily bear. I her struggle and her courage in that quilt. Recently, my sister ga ve me a top like the one I had received from our mother. Mama had made two  tops that year. My sister had politely accepted one, but had never finished it, though she makes baby quilts for every baby born in Iberville Parish,  Louisiana, I believe. Even within families responses vary.

I suspect there are many quilts like my mother's. They are not likely to be the most beautiful or perfectly wrought pieces. In dealing with them as hi storians, I think we must consider their makers' purposes, the roles they p layed in lives. We must honor the lives to which they bear witness. 

In "The Quilters" by Patricia Cooper and Norma Bradley Burferd, the writers interview a wonderful woman named Quirl Thompson Havenhill, whose husband  died when she was 65. She said, "When he died, we was in the middle of buil ding this house for ourselves, and after the funeral I come home and put on my overalls and finished this house in thirty days. I never looked up till I was through. I lost fifty-seven pounds during that time. Then I took up  quilting." 

In the same book Nettie Uher is quoted as saying, "After my boy Razzie died when he was fourteen, I began to quilt in earnest, all day sometimes. Ther e was still the two younger ones to take care of but losing my oldest just  took something. I lost my spirit for housework for a long time, but quiltin ' was a comfort. Seems my mind just couldn't quit planning patterns and col ors, and the piecing, the sewing with the needle comforted me."

Gaye Ingram

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Subject: Re: Barb Vlack's mourning quilt From: Pat Kyser <patkyser hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:37:45 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

Thanks, Barb, for sharing about your quilt. I am so sorry for your  losses.  

Our first grand child was born six months after my husband's death from  cancer a quarter of a century ago. Shortly after his death, I fell and  broke several bones in my right hand.

I cut his shirt sleeves and made a quilt from that part which would have  held that precious grand daughter, struggling to keep my hand moving and  usable. The stitches were far from perfection, but the solace I gained  was immeasurable. And the grand daughter, now a veterinarian, grew up  with that quilt and a memory of the grand father she never knew.

Pat Kyser

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Subject: RE: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: Mary Anne R <sewmuch63 yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:43:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 5

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I had a similar experience when I made  a quilt for a widow from her husb and's shirts. They were Western style with curved pockets. I cut squares  centering the pockets and randomly placed them around the quilt. We had n ot discussed this as she said to do what ever pattern I wanted. When she  saw the finished quilt, she burst into tears and explained that her husband insisted that all his shirts have those pockets. Even shirts given as gift s would be exchanged for ones that had those pockets. I think he 'inspired' me to use them.    Mary Anne 

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Subject: Mourning quilts and rituals. From: suereich charter.net Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:07:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 6

As a nurse in the ER, I, unfortunately, have seen my share of people who have died and experienced with their families the grief and shock of sudden passing. Despite my life's work, I have always been uncomfortable with open caskets at funeral homes. Six years ago when we lost Stephen, we only had his ashes to mourn over. Intellectually I knew we lost our son, but my Mommy-side had no proof. Because of that experience, I now understanding and totally respect open caskets and the way it benefits families, friends and loved ones. Years ago, when people lived at great distances, quick travel before the need for burial was impossible. A photo could supply the need for closure for those distant relatives. I have great respect for all of you making mourning quilts. (For years, I have owned Crazy quilts and a pieced quilt with inscribed clothing scraps from deceased relatives.) Whether these quilts are from your own family or for strangers who have lost a loved one, they provide great comfort. Our family has been blessed with four quilts since Stephen's crash, including one from "Home of the Brave." Amazing the reaction one short quilt article from yesteryear can inspire.

Sue Reich Washington Depot, Connecticut www.suereichquilts.com http://coveringquilthistory.com/ http://www.majorreichaward.com/

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Subject: Re: Mourning quilts and rituals. From: "Marcia's Mail" <marciark earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:15:45 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7

Beyond the single photo on my husband's side, I do remember my maternal grandmother's brother died and his wife took photos of the funeral and him and sent them to my grandmother. The entire family was very shocked and dismayed! It had not been done before and so I wrote a little note to my grandmother expressing my thoughts for her distress and tried to comfort her. She wrote back that after the initial shock wore off, it was actually a small comfort to see the arrangements and everything. Sometimes solace comes in the strangest ways. Marcia in Austin

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Subject: Re: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: Jocelyn Martin <martinjocelyn rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:09:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 8

Gaye, I think you've hit the nail on the head with whether the quilt is a mourning quilt or a celebration quilt. It's been at least 10 years since I made a quilt that was a celebration of the life of a wonderful cat. The  quilt features  blocks embroidered with outline drawings of cats, done in a humorous rather than realistic style, and striped sashing that is mitere d to form frames around the blocks; the embroidery is done in the colors of the stripes, mainly teal greens and purples. I had had both the pattern an d the fabric before Custer died. There's one particular block that reminds  me so much of him; it shows a cat leaning up against something (like a huma n's legs), looking upward adoringly, and meowing. For those of you who know cats, you know this as the Dinnertime Dance. :) The only sorrow associated with it is that I didn't make it in HONOR of Custer, so that he'd had a ch ance to enjoy it, too. I'm curious though...how does the QHL feel about t his quilt? White backgrounds, bright colored stripes and embroidery. A very bright, light quilt...does it matter that it was done as a memorial quilt? That it was done as a cat's memorial quilt? Would it bother you to sleep u nder it?    Jocelyn   ________________________________ ---1952832855-465737390-1319648989=:8029--

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 25, 2011 From: "Virginia Berger" <cifba netins.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:25:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

> Subject: RE: re Polly's note on mourning quilts >From: Gloria Hanrahan <gloria ak.net> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:48:02 -0800 (AKDT) > > I believe we need to include the practical aspect of a > mourning quilt. Keeping hands and mind busy in a > time of sorrow is universal.

After my divorce, (another type of loss/mourning) I said something to my mother about an almost uncontrollable but unfocused urge to start a new quilt project. She shared with me that she had felt the same urge after my brother's death several years earlier and she felt that it was connected to wanting to create not so much as memorialize. Kind of spitting in death's eye? or proof life goes on? I don't think I'm expressing it well--oh for Gaye's gift with words!

Virginia Berger

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 25, 2011 From: SoldierGrrrl <soldier.grrrl gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:30:55 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Virginia Berger <cifba netins.net> wrote: > Kind of spitting in death's > eye? or proof life goes on?  I don't think I'm expressing it well--oh f or > Gaye's gift with words!

When I redeployed home from Iraq, I started a quilt, made in the middle of the nights when ghosts and demons kept me company. It was a fan quilt, with primary colors, and I like to think it helped push some of the ugly memories, sad memories, bittersweet and angry memories out and replaced them with calmer, more creative memories.

It's been six years now, and I've finally finished the top. Now, I'll be sending it out to get it long-arm quilted, and maybe that chapter of my life will close for a bit. Well, until the deployment next year.

Jen --  "Whatever their fond sentiments for men and women in uniform, for most Americans the war remains an abstraction 96 a distant and unpleasant series of news items that do not affect them personally."- Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense.

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: Jocelyn Martin <martinjocelyn rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:39:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 11

Steph, My mother, who is 90 years old and a native of  Mississippi, wou ld whole-heartedly agree with you. She has often commented that death was a part of life in her childhood. When a member of the community died, the wo men would gather to help with the laying-out of the body, and the men would gather to help with the construction of the coffin. She remembers a song t hat was actually on the radio c. 1929,  'They've cut down the old pine tr ee, and hauled it away to the mill, to make a coffin of pine for that sweet heart of mine, oh, they've cut down the old pine tree.' (Google it!) She re members running and playing with the other children in the cemetery while t he adults visited after church. If there were a new grave, the children wou ld often go tell the men that the grave had settled and needed tending- jus t like children of today might report any other maintenance need in the chu rch. She remembers one old lady who announced that when she died, she wante d a particular deacon to 'step' her grave, because 'he always does it so solem n and respectful-like'. She mean, she wanted him to pack down the dirt on t op of her coffin, by walking on top of the grave. In a rural community with out power excavation equipment, the only way to pack down the dirt was by s tepping a grave.  

Despite it being a standing joke in our family that  we never take a vacation that doesn't end up in a cemetery somewhere, I gre w up without attending funerals (I come from a long-lived family, but all o f my grandparents had died before I was born). I simply didn't know anyone  who died. God has a sense of humor, because He sent me on a retreat to a Benedictine monastery about 10 years ago. I arrived the night before the funeral of one sister...and during her memorial service that evening, another sister died...and before her burial Mass was celebrated a THIRD sister died. In the course of 5 days, I had to attend 3 funeral Masses. To make a long  story short, Benedictines know how to do funerals.

Outside the chapel at this monastery, is a beautifully illuminated document, listing the members of the community who have entered the Church Triumphant, in order. If you go  on an extended retreat there, you will be asked, sooner or later, if you've been to the cemetery. As one sister said, 'We want you to meet the rest of the family! ' And so they believe...that that list of names on the wall are important t o remember because just as there are sisters tidying up your room and setting out towels for you before you arrive for a retreat, those sisters listed on the wall are helping Jesus  prepare a place for you when you leave he re to join them.

There's no sorrow with the funeral...it's a celebration of the sister's life, steeped in the knowledge (that goes beyond mere belief) that eventually, all of us here will join all of them, and there will be n o more parting. And at each sister's funeral, the songs sung by the schola  (choir) are the same songs that were sung at her profession of vows, welcoming her into the community. There's a sense that the schola here is only an echo of the schola of sisters singing those same songs, to welcome her int o the community in heaven.    Jocelyn   _____________________ ___________ --

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Subject: RE: Mourning From: Jocelyn Martin <martinjocelyn rocketmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 12

Leah, Yes, indeed, it's quite common in Southern families to have picture s of the deceased- especially when picture taking was rare enough that you  might not have a picture that had been taken while the person was alive. Al though in my family, it's simply a picture of the deceased. Pictures of the deceased are often taken and sent to those who couldn't attend the funeral . Although I never know what to do with the pictures, myself. I can't quite bring myself to throw them away, but I can't bring myself to put them into a photo album, either.     Jocelyn   _______________________ _________ ---1952832855-1866307939-1319652055=:72421--

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Subject: Re: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:35:20 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14

It wouldn't bother me to sleep under ANY memorial quilt. But then the topics of death and dying are comfortable topics for me.

Stephanie Whitson

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 25, 2011 From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:37:00 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15

Virginia, I think that your mother's observation is profound. The desire to CREATE in response to loss and perceived destruction. You've given me something to ponder. Steph Whitson

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Subject: Re: qhl digest: October 25, 2011 From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:38:22 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16

I also think that that desire to create can be an outgrowth of our desire for control. We may not be able to control the loss of a loved one or a relationship, but we CAN control what we create. I have jokingly said often that novelists are control freaks with a God complex. We can kill the bad guy and let the good guy triumph, and that is very satisfying. Steph Whitson (novelist by day)

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Subject: Mourning Quilts From: ljcarlson hughes.net Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:11:59 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17

To add to this discussion on mourning quilts, I found during research for Quilting To Soothe The Soul, (prompted by my father's sudden death in 1993), we can thank Queen Victoria for bringing the ephemera of "mourning" objects & practices into vogue for many, many years after Prince Albert died an early death, as she mourned him for 40 years. Not until home funerals in the US were virtually outlawed by the 20th century funeral industry (read lobbyists as well as health advocates), did death become an almost taboo subject with the mourning objects being considered "creepy", as many here have said. The fact that death is an integral part of life, is to be avoided in today's modern society, which opens up all sorts of right to die, and death with dignity issues best left to other conversations. Some so-called Victorian objects were the deceased's hair being woven into wreaths or placed into lockets, photos of the beloved as they lay on their death beds or in caskets, artist drawings/paintings of the deceased alive with a watch showing the exact time of death, etc. Queen Victoria kept a photo of Albert's "death head" above her bed, and a fresh pitcher of water and bowl on the nightstand beside the bed as if he would perform his morning ablutions each day.

She also commanded a wedding party several years after his death to wear dark mourning clothes, but relented to a lighter "mourning brown". Perhaps this obsession with dark fabrics to indicate mourning status gradually filtered to the lighter grayish or light purple background prints textile historians have also identified as mourning prints. I have read that solid black was a must for a full year, then brown the second year to denote the widow's impending availability, although I don't know how this can be stated as a fact other than a practice in some locations. I also found other non-Anglo Saxon cultures had rich mourning practices involving textiles or quilts, all of which could seem odd or questionable to our individual experiences, but aren't when one considers that culture's history and religious beliefs. A quilt maker's need for self-expression to address a profoundly life adjusting experience whether in mourning or celebration, is one of the most personal and meaningful endeavors to be imagined. I would plead with all who create such works to document the stories on the backside, for each special meaning fabric seen on the front; i.e. the reason for Barb including the circuit board fabric in Dave Vlack's tie, etc. Such quilts do get passed on in families, and what a wonderful insight into the beloved's interests and passions building personal connections to those who will only "know" each other through the piece and documentation thoughtfully provided as a legacy to future generations.

Some quilted funeral palls were, and are still used to cover caskets in some Protestant and Catholic churches today here in my hometown in MO. To my knowledge, they were either created by one person, or by the quilting group of the church to be used by member families if they so wished either instead of or with a spray of flowers. I have not witnessed photos of the deceased being taken before funeral attendees arrived since I was a child visiting my paternal grandparents who took us to a home visitation probably about 1958. I recall that the person was brought to the home by the funeral director after embalming for viewing, then the service was performed there by the Minister. It was cheaper than having all this at the funeral home according to the conversations I overheard.  To end, some of our deceased guild members have had quilts they made displayed at their funerals. When my Mom passed away two years ago, I hung her president's signed album quilt behind her casket, then placed the 15W"X45L" casket quilt I'd made commemorating my parent's marriage on the bottom half of the casket slightly under the roses spray. My sister asked that it not be buried with her, so she has it complete with Mom & Dad's vital statistics. We don't consider it "creepy", but something her grandchildren and great-grandchildren may be thankful to have especially since it has their 25th wedding anniversary photo transfer. They were married 48 years when Dad died in 1993, and I wasn't finished with the quilt I was making to help celebrate their 50th anniversary. 

Linda Carlson Author, Workshop Leader, Baby Geniuses Fabric Designer www.lindacarlsonquilts.com http://babygeniusesfabric.blogspot.com Become a fan on Facebook  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Linda-Carlson-Quilts/110305422368689

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Subject: Re: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: Gaye Ingram <gingram suddenlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:06:46 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18

---- Stephanie Whitson wrote: > It wouldn't bother me to sleep under ANY memorial quilt. But then the topics > of death and dying are comfortable topics for me.

Steph, do you mean you would not feel just a little uneasy sleeping under the famous coffin quilt if your name was on one the caskets still outside the cemetery? Not one little bit----maybe a smidgen?

Knowing myself, I just know I would be led to contemplate death before going to sleep and then the thought would be lodged there in my brain, on the way to my subconscious---in the ante-room of the subconscious, needing to be welcomed and processed before entry. And naturally if I fell asleep, there would be the dream, remembered or not remembered, that resulted from that.

I myself would distinguish between seeing one's very own name on a loosely appliqued coffin (and no doubt mine would have a loose thread) and all other types of mourning quilts. And I refer to unease, not rank fear.

I thought Linda Carlson introduced an important point about the importance of the rich symbolism associated with death and grief in traditional cultures. With Queen Victoria, it seemed that the system of symbolism traditional in England at the time did not provide her sufficient means to reconcile herself with the death of her beloved Albert, whose life had framed her own. So she had to invent private ways of dealing with his death. In that regard, she was only a little ahead of her time. Maybe that's why many of her private practices gained such popularity---others also felt the inadequacy of the traditional rituals of mourning. If the purpose of mourning is to find a way past grief, I'm not sure Victoria's practices proved successful.

A recent NEW YORKER article has an interesting and timely discussion of mourning, specifically of the role of public mourning: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/10/mourning-steve-jobs-the-purpose-of-public-grief.html

Gaye

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Subject: Re: wondering.... From: Jeanne Henry <jeannehenry55 gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:14:40 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

>  > I'm loving this conversation...

My partner Terence died of cancer in 2007. The day he was diagnosed w/ stage 4 base of tongue cancer, we went to a Benedictine Nunnery where he was studying to be an oblate. His mentor was a nun who looked and acted like Kathryn Hepburn, so we called her Sister Kate. We walked around the grounds and sat in the beautiful cemetery surrounded by the nuns who have passed. Terence said, "I sure would love to be buried here...." and I laughed and said, "I'm sorry sweetie, but you have the wrong genitalia." After he died and was cre mated, I took some of his ashes and secretly spread them in that cemetery. H e got his wish after all! Later I confessed what I did to Sister Kate, and she roared laughing. She thought the nuns would enjoy the company.

Also, while going through treatment with him, I secretly made him a quilt that looks like a giant bookshelf filled with his favorite 77 books he's read in his life. It helped calm my nerves to quilt when I was terrified. After I g ave it to him, we had hours of good conversations talking about the books on the quilt. Now, when I sleep under that quilt, I have hours of great memori es of those conversations, and I've read many of those books as well.

Jeanne Henry Austin

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Subject: Re: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:33:40 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

It's funny that you mentioned the coffin quilt, Gaye, because I actually  had a mental image of that quilt as I talked about sleeping under  memorial quilts. And no ... I don't think it would bother me. We're all  dying of something, whether we consciously accept that or not ... and I  have this verse of Scripture in my head that I wrote in the front of my  Bible when I was widowed at 48: "in Your book were all written The days  that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them."  That's Psalm 139:16, and I take it to mean that my death day was already  decided before my birthday happened. For me, that's very comforting.  It's all in God's loving hands ... and He'll move that coffin into the  graveyard at exactly the right moment and not a second early. It also  undoubtedly helps that I believe in a literal heaven ...streets paved  with gold and all that. Yes. Simple-minded.  

I will say that it was a bit of shock to visit the cemetery and see my  name on my tombstone. It's already there next to my husband's, just  waiting for the death date to be added. And then I want a couple of  lines from a poem I love added, "Graves are only doorways cut in sod,  and dying is but getting dressed for God."

As to the dreams sleeping under the coffin quilt would engender ... oh,  my. I have famously creative and weird dreams, so I can't imagine the  coffin quilt causing anything I haven't already experienced. I was the  queen of nightmares when I was a kid. Overactive imagination? I could be  the president of the that club.

Your comment about the "success" of Queen Victoria's mourning in regards  to her becoming reconciled to her beloved Albert's death is fascinating.  The word "reconciliation" is so much more a propos, in my opinion, of  the struggle we go through. I have written an essay on the idea of  "closure" which our culture seems to find so important. I don't believe  that closure exists in the way it is often used. But I also look at  Queen Victoria and feel said for the abundant life she missed because of  her inability to reconcile to loss.  

In my own grief process, I purposed in my heart after Bob graduated to  heaven NOT to allow his death to define the rest of my life. To open my  hands and accept it. It seems to me that Queen Victoria purposed to do  exactly the opposite and that the rest of her life was defined by  Albert's death. Thinking about the crushing weight of that kind of  sadness makes me SO sad for HER and all the joy she must have missed in  her determination to mourn.

Oh, goodness ... I have waxed on and on.  This is a very long answer to a simple question about sleeping under the  coffin quilt.  I am also quite certain that my level of comfort with all of this is not  only a result of my personal decisions about faith matters and my  experience with grief, but also very much colored by the fact that my  brother is a funeral director, I grew up visiting him when he lived over  a funeral home, and his friendship has helped me to a new level of  comfort with the death and dying thing. 

And the rest of what makes me say I'd sleep under the coffin quilt with  my name on one of the coffins ... well. I suppose "weirdness" explains  the rest :-).  When someone asks my dh how he is, he often replies, "deeply weird, but  not dangerous."  That's me, too.

Stephanie Whitson

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Subject: RE: Mourning Quilts From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:44:19 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3

We did a display of my mother's quilts at her wake at the funeral home (this was 1996). When my best friend died of breast cancer (also in 1996), her husband put the blue-and-white-signature quilt that had been created by one of the members of the quilt group she belonged to and signed by folks who came to visit when she became housebound on her casket in lieu of a floral spray. Her grown son has the quilt now and cherishes it as a fond memory of all the friends who visited and showered them with love during the worst part of his mom's illness.

Steph Whitson

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Subject: RE: Mourning Quilts From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:46:37 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4

And I will hush after this one. My Aunt had a white funeral pall made for her own casket and then made it available to the Lutheran Church from which she was buried. It had a butterfly on it and the words, "You can fly ... but first you have to shed the cocoon" quilted into the front panel. This would have been around 1980. And remembering it makes me wonder if the church has ever actually used it since Aunt Luise's service. Steph Whitson

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Subject: RE: Mourning Quilts From: "Christine Thresh" <christine winnowing.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:22:25 -0700 X-Message-Number: 5

In May of 2010 I placed a quilt at the front of the church for my husband's memorial service. It was a bookcase quilt. My husband loved to read. The quilt sat behind a breadbox that contained his ashes. He made our daily bread. You can see a picture at: http://winnowings.blogspot.com/2010/05/celebration-indeed.html

Christine Thresh on an island in the California Delta http://winnowings.blogspot.com <-- my blog and http://www.winnowing.com <-- website

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Subject: More coffee needed From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ss yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 04:06:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 6

Stephanie, my before coffee eyeballs read "housebound IN her coffin" in you r post....now THAT'S a picture!!!!  Susan

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Subject: Re: [SPAM]qhl digest: October 25, 2011 From: <gebel earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:39:55 -0700 X-Message-Number: 7

In regards to the mourning quilts' posts. I truly enjoyed the many comments. I gave a presentation at AQSG in 1995 regarding the use of quilts in death rituals. I had information regarding quilts made in the nineteenth century and the twentieth. I had a lot more information regarding mourning and quilts. I believe that those who make mourning quilts do so because they want to and even need to; it is for them a normal response to an abnormal situation in their life. One woman wrote me that, during her husband's final struggle with cancer, she had started to make a small mourning quilt. When she mentioned this to others, they looked at her as though she were crazy. I told her that this quilt was obviously part of her mourning process and not to let the opinion of others stop her. She sent me a picture when she completed the quilt. It had four blocks and they were named Anger, Fear, (these first two were made during his illness), Pain and the last Acceptance. These are steps that many people go through in their personal struggle to deal with their tremendous loss. For her, making the quilt helped her to make "sense out of the chaos that death has brought." Another widow wrote that she worked on a quilt as her husband was in the hospital and she could see the psychatric ward from his window. She believed that quilting kept her from ending up in that wing of the hospital. Another woman wrote that when she made a quilt with the names of her family on it, she included the names of those who had died, because not to include them would be denying that they had existed. When I learned that my father-in-law's cancer and returned and was untreatable, I felt strongly that I needed to make him a quilt to help him keep warm. I sent it to him about a month before his death and my mother-in-law said it was always on his bed. After his death, she wrapped herself in the quilt and felt my arms and love and his arms and love surrounding her. Mourning quilts are among the very special quilts. Carol W. Gebel

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Subject: Re: re Polly's note on mourning quilts From: "Jean Carlton" <jeancarlton comcast.net> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:58:49 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8

Interesting New Yorker article...thanks for that link, Gaye. If you read it, click all the links within....interesting esp. Apple  artwork creativity. It took me to this Steve Jobs quote.

Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to  avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.

Jean

Gaye said: A recent NEW YORKER article has an interesting and timely discussion of  mourning http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/10/mourning-steve-jobs-the-purpose-of-public-grief.html    

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Subject: Mourning Rituals-photography From: "Virginia Berger" <cifba netins.net> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:20:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9

After AQSG my friend and I spent some time in PA. At Gettysburg I picked up a little book entitled "Widow's Weeds and Weeping Veils: Mourning Rituals in 19th Century America" by Bernadette Loeffel-Atkins.

I'll admit that I haven't read it yet-still working thru the books I bought at AQSG. In the section on post-mortem photography she says: "During the mid-nineteenth century, most of the photographs were taken in a natural pose with the loved one in a chair or on a bed. Photographs of the deceased laid out in a coffin became more popular near the turn of the century."

FYI, it includes recipes for Funeral Pie, Funeral Biscuits, and Funeral Cake. It is noted that the "biscuit" recipe is courtesy of the "Museum of Funeral Customs" in Springfield, IL.

Virginia Berger

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Subject: RE: Mourning Quilts From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephanie stephaniewhitson.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:29:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12

What a lovely tribute. Steph Whitson

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Subject: mourning quilts and saved hair From: Jccullencrew aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:06:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 13

Dear QHL ladies,

What an enlightening group of e-mails on an unspoken subject in our family. When I was a kid, people were laid out at home ('40's), My own experience was celebrating Christmas and then having the tree replaced two days later with a coffin of a family member. It was difficult for a child to understand but I remember a lot about it 60 some odd years later.

That's why I found the thread of weaving hair into quilts interesting in that after my mother died, I found wrapped in tissue a good length of her hair as well as my own hair which I cut at age 13. For some unconscious reason I kept my DD's hair when she cut it, and also my DGD's just because I had all the rest. My gram was a sewer and occasional quilter, but they were more utilitarian and I doubt she was into weaving hair into the mix.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had family members keep more than a little lock of hair that you might keep from your child's first haircut as a mement?. Perhaps it is a European custom as my gram was from Czechoslovakia.

Thank you for sharing your stories about your own traditions, which I'm finding fascinating reading.

Carol Grace, long-time member and quilt lover who doesn't post very often --part1_1d1e3.5d10152a.3bdb13de_boundary--

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Subject: RE: Jocelyn's mourning quilt for Custer the cat From: "Mary Waller" <mwaller vyn.midco.net> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:40:41

I would be honored to sleep under the quilt Jocelyn made for Custer the cat. I would be more comfortable sleeping under a quilt made for him than for some people I know. A memorial quilt can still be a quilt made in honor of someone, and Custer's quilt qualifies for me. It sounds like a wonderful quilt that is also a wonderful tribute. Twenty or thirty years ago, there was a pattern for large embroidered cat blocks (10" or 12" maybe) that they showed in redwork, and the cats had some humor in their expressions. I think it's from Better Homes and Gardens, but I can't find it via Google. Maybe this is the design Jocelyn has.

Mary Waller

Vermillion, SD, USA

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Subject: RE: Jocelyn's mourning quilt for Custer the cat From: Gaye Ingram <gingram suddenlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:29:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15

---- Mary Waller > I would be honored to sleep under the quilt Jocelyn made for Custer the cat.

Me too, Mary. I would hope Custer's spirit would snuggle in there peacefully, always with a home to come to.

I loved the description of Custer, the way he would stand and look up at the person he controlled.

Gaye