Subject: New topic --technique and materials From: "Judy Grow" <judy.growcomcast.net>

Does your supermarket offer sanitary hand towels at the entrance? Have you ever looked at the fabric? I think they are indestructible, but very lightweight and could be used as lightweight foundations for piecing. Has anyone ever used them? I have no idea what the material is, but they won't stretch when I pull at them.

I am asking because when I had my picture framing business that same fabric was used to wrap picture frame moulding. Being the pack rat that I am I couldn't stand to throw the stuff away and have a number of strips that are 4 1/2" by at least 10 feet -- and longer. I am seeing foundation pieced flying geese -----

Does anyone know what material they are?

Judy Grow


Subject: Re: Lone Star Quilt Study Group From: Quiltsappraisedaol.com Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:59:36 -0500 (EST) X-Message-Number: 2



Thank you for the video. I received an application for your study group and with the subject being so close to my heart I really wanted to make the first meeting. But the long distance and my schedule prevented me from attending. The video was the next best thing to being there!

Alma R. Moates Pensacola, Florida AQS Certified Quilt Appraiser quiltsappraisedaol.com _www.almarmoates.com_ (http://www.almarmoates.com/)


Subject: UGRR-Campbell Folk School follow-up From: "Virginia Berger" <cifbanetins.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:55:57 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3

Back in Dec, I discovered that the John C Campbell Folk School was going to offer a workshop making an UGRR quilt. I sent a message to the school and I think several of you may have also sent messages. I received the following response in Jan from the resident quilter but have never heard from the person teaching the class:

Thank you for your recent communication about the "Underground Railroad" class. I am the Resident Quilter at the Folk School and just wanted you to know that I too am aware of the myth surrounding these stories and because of that talked extensively to the instructor about what she planned to do. At first I don't think she was aware of the controversy until I sent her the websites I had uncovered giving the facts of how this one person was perpetuating "the code". I reluctantly agreed to let her use that title but asked that she not teach this as fact but only use it as a jumping off point to teach a variety of beginning patterns and that is why the class description says "it is theorized…" and "were said to…". These phrases were intended to tip the reader that we are not fooled into believing these things.Unfortunately, it has generated just the kind of negative respond that I feared. I apologize for letting it go forward. I have written Ms McKay and asked if she could respond to our concerns so you may be hearing from her. She really is a lovely lady and I feel sure does not wish to give out bad information.

Thank you for your concern, Pat Meinecke Folk School Resident Quilter

Just thought you all might like to know.

Virginia Berger


Subject: New Smithsonian Museum From: Edwaquiltaol.com Date: Thu,

I just received the current issue of Smithsonian magazine. There is a short article about the new African-American Museum which will be opening. In addition to describing it's purpose this statement is made."....it is also a tale of triumph over adversity: the resistance of the Underground Railroad and Rosa Parks; the jazz and blues......" etc. Quilts are not mentioned. However, the myth could very well be there in glorious detail.




Subject: Singing&Stitching: different traditions From: Gaye Ingram <gingramsuddenlink.net> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:50:40 -0600 X-Message-Number: 5

Stephanie recently mentioned that Negro spirituals had been linked with quilts as escape codes on the now defamed UGRR and that historians also questioned the validity of them as well.

As highway signs, they would not have been worth much, but slave owners definitely recognized the dangerous implications of those songs.

Their predominant theme is freedom. The point of view is generally that of the enslaved Israelites during the Egyptian Captivity and the hope created by God's promise to them that He will bring them out of Egypt and into a homeland where they might worship Him freely. Crossing the river Jordan generally represented the crossing from a life of earthy captivity to the eternal freedom of Heaven in such songs as "Deep River." But that metaphor has other obvious references.

Almost equal in number are the joyous, triumphant songs that celebrate the victory of an underdog from this group---e.g. David's defeat of Goliath, Joshua when he 'fit the battle of Jerico', or Elijah's glorious, golden-charioted ascent to God. They are deeply, primitively Christian, and although they have been adapted by most major American choral masters for performance, folk versions still can be heard by back porch singers, black and white, throughout the Deep South. Their evolution is particularly clear in "Elijah Rock," which acquired a reference to the telephone sometime in the twenties or thirties. (see, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBV_2S62qsE&feature=related .

Even a dim-witted slave owner could scarcely escape the implications of these songs and their impassioned yearnings for freedom and victory over oppressors. Thus they, along Bible and reading instruction and teaching, were often forbidden. This became increasingly true after the 1831 Nat Turner rebellion in which slaves hacked to death over 50 whites in their homes in Southampton, Virginia in a period of three days.

While we talk a lot about slavery now, it is hard even in the South, where the black and white populations are more nearly equal, to imagine the world where it became a central fact of life for many or the fear that always haunted slave owners. Journals, newspapers, and letters from the time reveal the terror that lay beneath all that crinoline and all those mint juleps. Along River Road in Louisiana, for instance, it was not uncommon for there to be five or six whites on a plantation worked by 150 black slaves. It was understood that if all the blacks in an area wanted to, they could easily destroy the few whites, and the wonder is that did not happen more often, particular there, where the sugar plantations combined the worst of agricultural work with the worst factory work---in the steamy sugar houses. In harvest season, sometimes slaves there worked 18 hours a day.

To permit such people to assemble and to think and sing of freedom and the victories of the enslaved Israelites struck even those slaveholders who idealized the institution as inviting insurrection. Thus the religious gatherings and Bible instruction were often forbidden---and along with them, the songs.

When Thomas J. Jackson, who later became a General in the Army of Northern Virginia and acquired the name "Stonewall," was an instructor at VMI in Lexington, VA, the town had laws forbidding the instruction of slaves in reading and the Bible. In the face of these laws, Jackson, who was a quiet, eccentric man, continued his Sunday afternoon Bible and reading classes for slaves. A devout Presbyterian, he was acting on that church's belief in the importance of reading the Bible as a means of knowing God. Jackson's connections to church leaders and his status as a faculty member at VMI and veteran of the Mexican War were solid. His determination was clear. So the town fathers backed down. But that took a while, and was an exception. It took place in a small university town in the Shenandoah Valley of western Virginia.

All of this is simply to suggest that the spirituals, which accompanied Bible instruction, did play a real role in slave life and thought, so real that laws were enacted to prohibit them. They encouraged the enslaved to think about freedom, which was inimical to their owner's interests. There is ample evidence of this. Such evidence does not exist for the quilt code.

A short novel that I believe evokes a vividl sense of the fear that gripped slaveowners and the bestiality both of the system and the uprisings is "Property," written by Valerie Martin.

Gaye Ingram



Subject: Civil War Children From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:30:29 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 6

This is an interesting photo series. I would have liked to known more.




Subject: Re: Civil War Children From: textiqueaol.com Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:58:58 -0500 (EST) X-Message-Number: 7

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There is a paper on this group of pictures in "The Girls' History and Cultu= re Reader:The Nineteenth Century", ed. Miriam Forman-Brunell and Leslie Paris, 2011, U of= ILL Press. It is titled "Rosebloom and Pure White," Or So It Seemed" by Mary Niall Mit= chell.

They were all freed from slavery in Louisiana and sent to Philadelphia for = portraits in 1863 under the orders of Union Major General N.P. Banks. General George Hanks s= erved on a commission, appointed by Banks, and was responsible for the education and= labor of freedpeople. Representatives of the American Missionary Association and th= e National Freedman's Relief Association photographed and toured the group to raise mo= ney to fund newly established schools for freedpeople in LA.

The darker-skinned children were eventually left behind because that didn't= produce the desired effect Abolitionists expected. Rosina [Rosa Downs], Rebecca, Charl= es and, earlier, Fanny, were chosen to elicit sympathy and provoke more outrage at = the peculiar institution of slavery. The clear message was that white women and childre= n could have been enslaved - indeed, that was the intent, so we must end slavery immedia= tely.

The children were also used to promote emancipation but, in many ways, had = the opposite effect. The girls, in particular, were so 'white' that it could be possibl= e to marry 'one' and not know she wasn't white' Many in the North were ok with the idea of eman= cipation but were concerned about 'mixing' of the races. People were not prepared to be= living next to freed slaves.

A very simplistic explanation of a fascinating article.

Jan Thomas

This is an interesting photo series. I would have liked to known more.



Subject: Quilting designs for antique Applique Quilts From: Judy Knorr <jknorroptonline.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:57:20 -0500 X-

What types of straight line and grid designs you have observed as background hand quilting on antique applique quilts? I am getting ready to hand quilt an applique quilt adapted from an antique quilt and would like to use an authentic background quilting design. I have already used a 1/2" to 3/4" grid on several of my quilts and was hoping to come up with something different from that. Any suggestions? Judy Knorr


Subject: RE: Quilting designs for antique Applique Quilts From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:51:35 -0600 X-Message-Number: 9

Parallel lines in groups of three. About 1/4" apart. Set of three lines, then a space, then three lines, then a space. Usually set at an angle to the seam line.

Double line hanging diamonds.

Steph Whtison


Subject: Re: qhl digest: March 01, 2012 From: Linda Heminway <ibquiltncomcast.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:16:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Virginia, thank you for sharing the communication about the Folk School and the teaching of the infamous UGRR myth. This remark really bothered me:

I reluctantly agreed to let her use that title but asked that she not teach this as fact but only use it as a jumping off point to teach a variety of beginning patterns and that is why the class description says "it is theorized=85" and "were said to=85". These phrases were intended to tip the reader that we are not fooled into believing these things.Unfortunately, it has generated just the kind of negative respond that I feared. I apologize for letting it go forward.

I know this woman is probably being paid to teach and she is in difficult circumstance due to an employer/employee relationship but if this were me and I knew the truth, I would probably walk away from a job that would further the myth. She may be under contract, though. She apologized for letting it go forward, but does not say she will do anything else, sadly. Times are tough and jobs are hard to come by, but=8A.

As for me, I have a suggestion for all of you. Each of us belongs to a guild and/or has a quilt shop nearby and a public library. Why not print a few of the Barbara Brackman handouts and leave them in such places?


If we just bring a few of these fact sheets to various places and leave them to be picked up by others, people will eventually find and read them. If we at least try, we may succeed in a non-confrontational way to dispel this myth?

My recent conflict in the quilt workshop has truly made me think more and more about this. I disliked feeling confrontational with a fellow quilter, but I truly dislike when an untruth is being fostered by people. It saddens me to read about this woman working at the Folk School, knowing full well what the truth is and still making these quilts. Will the kids working on the quilts come away with the thinking that this myth actually happened? You bet they will, as quilts are living and tangible objects and if they participate in making one and the terms "it is felt that" and "people were said to=8A" are used, you can be sure the kids will think of it as gospel.

Linda Heminway Plaistow, NH


Subject: Bolton & Coe From: textiqueaol.com Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012

American Samplers by Ethel Stanwood Bolton and Eva Johnston Coe has been sc= anned online. It was written about American schoolgirl embroideries but the chapter on sa= mpler verses is very useful when studying the sayings on early signature quilts.

Thought you'd all be interested.

Jan Thomas




Subject: Sampler Archive dot org From: textiqueaol.com Date: Fri, 2

Pleased to announce:


Jan Thomas


Subject: Supermarket sanitary wipes From: JAN MASENTHIN <quiltsrmesbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 14:57:47 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 4

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I don't know what material they are but my hippie daughter gets her panties= in a bunch every time she sees them. According to her they are not biod= egradable and therefore evil. I think they feel similar to Pellon interfaci= ng, although you're right, Judy, they don't stretch. Please don't let my= daughter know that I said that -- then she'd know I use them.

As long as I'm posting I want to mention the tornado that hit Harveyville, = Kansas and wiped out half of that very small town a couple of days ago. = One man died in the storm. If you've read the book, Persian Pickle Club,= you might remember that it took place in Harveyville, which happens to be = 6 miles west of where I grew up. Although small in comparison to other torn= adoes, it is still a tragedy with victims who needs our prayers. Jan Masenthin



Subject: Re: Supermarket sanitary wipes From: "Judy Grow" <judy.growcomcast.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 19:25:02 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5

I don't know what material they are but my hippie daughter gets her panties in a bunch every time she sees them. According to her they are not biodegradable and therefore evil. I think they feel similar to Pellon interfacing, although you're right, Judy, they don't stretch. Please don't let my daughter know that I said that -- then she'd know I use them.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAN,

I didn't know there were hippies around anymore -- except in Portlandia.

I really think I am going to try and make endless strips of flying geese of that fabric and leave it in the quilt. It will never pull out of shape.

Or Chinese Coins. Oops!~ Is that not a politically correct name anymore?

Forced to spend the day cleaning up my sewing room because of overnight company coming. No one will sleep in there -- but they might look in. As Bette Davis would say -- "What a dump!"

Judy Grow


Subject: Re: Sampler Archive dot org From: Quilltraol.com Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 19:27:44 -0500 (EST) X-Message-Number: 6

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Jan, Thanks so much! This will be a great reference for a couple of current projects!


_http://quilltr.blogspot.com_ (http://quilltr.blogspot.com/) _http://flickr.com/photos/lisa-kays_ (http://flickr.com/photos/lisa-kays) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/woolstitchery_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/woolstitchery)

In a message dated 3/2/2012 3:45:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, textiqueaol.com writes:

Pleased to announce:


Jan Thomas


Subject: Spunlace nonwoven cloth From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 16:34:38 -0800 (PST)

I did a little googling, and found a product called spunlace - made of 60% = viscose and 40% polyester. It is a nonwoven fabric used in the manufactu= re of lots of absorbent, disposable wipes. I can't say that is what Judy= has available to her, but it sounds relatively benign.

I myself have been experimenting with used dryer sheets as foundations for = strips and strings, and as a lining/back for easy applique. It has virtu= ally no bulk


Subject: supermarket sanitary wipes From: Linda Heminway <ibquiltncomcast.net> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 06:36:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

Just want to add that a woman makes "stitch and flip" quilt tops for a group I lead that look much like crazy quilts. She uses fabric softener sheets that have been used as her foundation and her blocks all come out a uniform size. The pellon-like sheets stabilize her work and she sews each block together afterwards. The effect is a lovely quilt, each time. We save used fabric softener sheets and press them for her. I feel it is the ultimate recycling to re-use them this way instead of toss them.

My group is called "My Brother's Keeper" and we make quilted sleeping bags for The Homeless. We also make comfort quilts for children with life threatening illnesses as well as twin size quilts for the oncology units and hospice. Our quilts are carried by police and fire staff, at times, to give to a child in distress after an accident or fire. We also make quilts for a residential center for homeless families. We are a pretty busy group. To date, we have made and distributed, through area shelters, over 500 quilted sleeping bags and approximately 160 of the other types of quilts. I'm rather proud of this small group of women that come together 2 times each month and donate their time, fabric and energy.

The lady who makes these tops for us turns out an amazing array of quilt tops using the sheets and they work really well. She is a costume seamstress for a theater company and the amazing scraps she uses in the quilt tops dazzle our members. We are quite fond of her tops and the children who have received them love them.

From an archival standpoint, some of you who research older quilts and what acids might deteriorate fabric/threads might have a concern about the fabric softener being sewn into the quilts. I am unsure if the fabric softener would hurt things, but our quilts are utilitarian in nature and not meant to be museum pieces and last for centuries. I would love to know, though, if fabric softener or the fragrance might hurt the fabric down the road, but we still will continue to use the sheets anyway.

Linda Heminway Plaistow, NH


Subject: Fabric softener sheets From: Margaret Keirstead <pkeirsteadmac.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 10:15:22 -0600 X-Message-Number: 1

I would like to know if these sheets could be damaging to quilts. I use them to face my labels; it's easier than ironing under 1/4".

Peggy Keirstead Richardson, TX


Subject: Re: [Spam] Fabric softener sheets From: "Judy Grow" <judy.growcomcast.net> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 18:56:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2

The only problem I see is from too high heat from the iron, but wash them to get all the chemicals out first. The material itself is inert and won't off-gas.

Thanks to Susan for your sleuthing on the fiber in the handi wipes -- a much thicker and sturdier fabric than dryer sheets.

Judy Grow


Subject: fabric softener sheets From: Debby Kratovil <kratovilhis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 06:11:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1

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I've enjoyed this discussion. I used to use the dryer sheets for all my applique (ie, gentle curves like circles, basket handles, hearts, etc), along with face my quilt labels for easy turning. I did an article for Quilt Magazine in 1995 about this which I called Unorthodox Appliqu=E9. I remember exactly when I took a box of Bounce =

and held up a used dryer sheet in my hand and solved a dilemma I had for finishing up a bunch of applique blocks for a project. In the mid =

90s, those sheets were sturdier and more like interfacing than they are now. They could handle a little more heat from the iron (though you never should apply much heat - they shrivel). Then when they became much flimsier, I went over to lightweight interfacing. But, you =

are on the right track! I would take a bunch of the USED ones and throw then into the wash with a load of towels to remove any lingering =

chemicals. They were just convenient interfacing, which we all have in =

our clothing, etc - and that's what gives body to some of these items.

So, hail to those dryer sheets! My editor loved that story, I loved getting paid for it, and I loved the convenience of having interfacing =

without having to make a trip to the store.

Debby, who does NOT Twitter, Facebook, Blog, Linked In, or any other networking services. I'm too busy working.

Debby (with a "y" and not "ie") Kratovil Quilt Trunk Shows & Workshops www.quilterbydesign.com



Subject: Re: Fabric softener sheets From: "Edith L. Taylor" <etaylorku.edu> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:20:22 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2

Hi all -

I don't know about others, but the smell of dryer sheets starts me sneezing and my eyes watering! Can you really get all of the smell (and the chemicals) out of them?



Subject: Re: Fabric softener sheets From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessenyahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:48:34 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 3

I am such a tightwad! After I use the dryer sheet in the dryer, I will throw it into the next wash in lieu of fabric softener. It gets really soft, so I just press it and it stiffens up just enough to be used for foundation piecing. Works for me.



Subject: Re: Fabric softener sheets From: "Stephanie Whitson" <stephaniestephaniewhitson.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:55:50 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4

As to the scent, I only buy the unscented ones ... And yes, they are absolutely good for 2 loads IMHO. Of course if I were selling them, would I tell? Ha. Steph Whitson


Subject: dryer sheets From: Stephen Schreurs <schreurs_ssyahoo.com>

Hmm, will have to try them in the wash, too....I have noticed, though, that= for my purposes, I only need to put one in every other dryer load - I susp= ect some residual in the dryer drum. All the laundry products at our hou= se are fragrance free.

I do notice a difference between the Bounce and generic brands, the generic= do not seem to have as even a distribution of fiber, and the abrasion from= the dryer seems to make them look fuzzier, to me. So I prefer the Bounc= e but not to the exclusion of a great deal on something else!

Has anyone tried gluing them to anything?

How I appreciate this group!!!! If I talk about these things with some p= eople, they think I am N-U-T-S!!! But I learned a new word for it - UPCY= CLING!

Fondly, Susan



Subject: Re: dryer sheets From: Jean Carlton <jeancarltoncomcast.net>

I cut them in half...plenty of 'softening' and they go twice as far...we are a thrift conscious lot! But why waste? I don't apologize. Being 'green' is the current phrase but to us it's nothing new. Jean

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