March 1999
Date Sun, 28 Feb 1999 191220 -0800
From Barbara qwhiltr@earthlink.net
Question Does anyone know where I can obtain either the patterns or the kit for the redwork pillow shams that say Good Morning and Good Night in German? I know where to get the English ones, but I know I’ve seen them in German, but where I don’t recall. I’ll bet someone on this list would know!
Thanks in advance,
Barbara Black in Ventura, California
qwhiltr@earthlink.net
Date Sun, 28 Feb 1999 232621 EST
From SadieRose@aol.com
To jeanntom@utkux.utcc.utk.edu, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject Re QHL SIMPLY QUILTS schedule
Sorry, everyone,
I haven’t forgotten….just been down several days with a very nasty flu
bug. Think I am finally past the stage of “should I stay in bed & sleep or
try to sleep sitting upright in the chair”, but still feeling pretty weak.
Yuck, I hate being sick!! I don’t even have enough energy to hand piece,
that’s pretty bad!
Re SIMPLY QUILTS schedule I have not received the March/April program
guide, will have to call & find out why. The last issue did not have a
“renewal notice” on the cover…so I’m not sure what the deal is. In the
meantime, guess you can check their website at www.hgtv.com Will let you
know what I find out….
Karan (I don’t think this virus can come through your computer )
Date Mon, 1 Mar 1999 103110 -0800 (PST)
From Kris Driessen krisdriessen@yahoo.com
Ironically enough, I just received a catalog from Sally Goodspeed who
offers these redwork patterns. Her phone number is 410-235-6736. I
don’t see an E-mail address, but I bet she has one.
Kris
Date Mon, 01 Mar 1999 151818 +0000
From Shirley McElderry tigersoup@lisco.net
Debbie and fellow QHLers The State Flower blocks are probably the
patterns from Home Art Studios in Des Moines, IA. Have a photocopy
(courtesy of Susan Miller of Pella, IA) that is from “The Royal
Neighbor” magazine, dated November 1933. The shield is at the base of
the flowers, on blocks which are set on point. The pattern number is
- There is a very elaborate border shown, as well as sashing with
stars. All this extra attention to design is very common to VerMerhan’s
patterns. Even though Alaska was not a state in 1933, VerMerhan
obviously thought it should be(or would be, at some point in time)
included; in the literature accompanying the design is “”The Official
State flower quilt contains the official flowers of each of the 48
states, and Alaska makes the 49th block, which is necessary to complete
this unusual quilt.”
Shirley Mc from IA
Date Sat, 27 Feb 1999 163535 -0000
From “Jenni Dobson” jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk
To “Quilt History List” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL Janet Rae’s book & log cabin, plus Australian quilt
Sorry to readers for being so behind with the postings. (Have been =
away.)
My friend Audrey Cameron mentioned (in digest no.53) Janet Rae’s book, =
The Quilts of the British Isles as being out of print. The book was out =
of print for some time but was reprinted by a different publisher. It is =
now A Deirdre McDonald book, cover price 12.99 UK sterling. ISBN 1 =
898094 14 4. So far as I know, this edition is still available, having =
bought some copies recently to give as gifts.
On the subject of the Log Cabin pattern, I mentioned to QHL my trip to =
the Museum on the Isle of Man earlier in February. There, log cabin is =
considered to be a ‘speciality’ of the island. Of course many quilts =
were consumed by use and it’s difficult to know how far back the =
tradition of using the pattern goes, though I saw some examples whilst =
there. The Manx have a particular way of folding the strips back to =
leave a small pleat, rather than pressing the strip right back to the =
seam line. The strips are therefore cut wider than they first appear. =
This extra width is also used when joining the blocks to enclose the =
seam allowance and thus neaten the back of the quilt. So at the end the =
final effect is of equal width strips. Hope that makes sense.
I’d also like to refer people who enquired about the Australian convict =
quilt to Margaret Rolfe’s book, Australian Quilt Heritage, which I =
received this January from my Aussie penpal. On pp. 20-21, she writes =
about the activities of Elizabeth Fry to improve the lot of women =
convicts in the C19th and this spread to include those being =
transported. There’s a pic. of one in a medallion style on p.21, with a =
transcription of the dedication embroidered on it, dated June 1841. =
(Margaret says Fry helped in this way, until 1841 & died not long after =
in 1843 – this sounds as if the transportation of women to Australia =
ceased in 1841 but I’ll see if I can check that & post it on the list =
accordingly.)
This quilt is in the collection of the National Gallery of Australia in =
Canberra – who probably have a website? & email.
It sounds as if it was the only known surviving quilt at the time =
Rolfe’s book was written. The quilt turned up in Scotland,
probably having been sent back to England soon after its making, but =
nothing is known about it in between then & it appearing in the 1980s.
Hope this is of interest.
Jenni D. in UK.
I’
Date Mon, 1 Mar 1999 221821 -0000
From “Jenni Dobson” jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk
To “Quilt History List” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL Audrey Waite – a small triviality
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Am still behind with my mail – sorry folks for dublicating some info =
another person had sent but I hadn’t read far enough to know this.
Audrey Waite wrote about The Groom’s Quilt in answer to the uneven no. =
of points in a pattern. In passing the name ‘Benoni’ caught my eye – as =
the male name of the maker. Did you know there is a town of this name in =
Transvaal in South Africa? I have friends who lived there for many =
years. I believe it is an African name (rather than a European setler’s =
name for the place) I mention it because I wonder if the maker could =
have been of African descent?
Jenni D in UK.
Date Tue, 02 Mar 1999 132303 -0800
From Nancy Cameron Armstrong narmstr@ibm.net
Margaret Rolfe, author of AUSTRALIAN QUILT HERITAGE (revised and updated
by Margaret in 1998, published by J.B. Fairfax and now available in
North America through Quilters’ Resource) recently had an inquiry about
this quilt … this is what she had to say on February 26. 1999
“I think the evidence would not seem to support the way the quilt is
described. Transportation to the New South Wales and Tasmania ceased in
the early 1850s, although from 1850 to 1868 10,000 men were transported
to Western Australia. So it is very unlikely to be a ‘prisoners’ quilt.
It could well have been made on board ship by a woman, or women, coming
to Australia, as emigration of women was encouraged. However, if they
know about how the women were given”three pieces of fabric,’ then why
is there no other information about any names of the women involved (or
at least their descendants), or the name of the ship involved? If the
quilt is of ‘museum-quality,’ why was it both restored (new fabric added
to centre), then quilted recently, thus making it less authentic? It
looks like a beautiful quilt, and I am not against restoration per se,
but if this a ‘rare’ piece, its authenticity and provenance are very
important, and so the first consideration is usually to do as little as
possible to change anything. I would like to know the real provenance on
this quilt – where was it bought, when, by whom, and what story
originally came with it. I would also like to know how it was pieced –
were the pieces overstitched onto papers (typical English construction)
or were they seamed together? While knowing about its construction would
not be definitive, it would be useful to know.”
Date Tue, 2 Mar 1999 201738 EST
From Baglady111@aol.com
I realize that many guilds have their programs set for the year..but alot of
quilt shops have speakers come in and I wanted to share this info with you..
TONI BAUMGARD of CA..will be here on the east coast in Oct…and while doing
research she has some time to meet woth guilds or shops..TONI is well known on
the west coast for her collection knowledge on REDWORK..her collection is
extensive and her program a must…
Toni also does quilt repair..so give her a holler and invite her in before all
dates are gone… Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB
Quiltfixer@aol.com
Date Wed, 3 Mar 1999 000259 EST
From SAERoy@aol.com
To QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL Re Quilt College
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I just wanted to share with the group the fun time several of us had at the
Vintage Quilt and Textile Society’s Quilt College which was held last Friday
and Saturday in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area.
Friday evening, we had a presentation by Elizabeth Kurella. For three hours,
she educated us on lace history and how to identify basic kinds of lace and to
distinguish machine made lace from handmade lace. Most of us left wishing we
had as much knowledge in our heads as Elizabeth has in her pinkie finger! If
you’re trying to learn how to identify different types of lace, I can
definitely recommend her lecture. She had these mounted samples of lace that
we could touch, inspect with magnifying glasses, etc. After that experience,
I feel like I can use her books with a lot more confidence. Our group enjoyed
learning from Elizabeth so much that we’re working on bringing her back for a
workshop on dating lace.
If you’re interested in purchasing some of her books, you can contact her
personally at ekurella@accn.org. I’m not a vendor, just a satisfied customer.
Saturday was a series of presentations by fellow QHLer’s. Terri Ellis shared
with us the in’s and out’s of estate sale shopping. She gave us some great
tips on estate sale etiquette and what to look for in estate sales.
Laura Hobby Syler and Karen Erlandson talked about different quilt restoration
techniques and tested our fabric dating skills. While I love all the books
that are out on these two subjects, it sure does help to see and touch.
Karen Erlandson and Aline McKenzie talked about African-American quilts. We
talked about several different books on the subject. Karen and Laura shared
with the rest of the group Eileen Trestain’s review of Hidden in Plain View
which appeared earlier on QHL. We have such talented people in our QHL group!
As always, show and tell was just too much fun. We got to see some incredible
quilts. One woman brought samples of the quilts that her family had made over
several generations. There was an 1850’s red, green and white quilt that was
quilted with such tiny, precise stitches. She also showed a top that she was
restoring that had scenes from Mother Goose done with the most incredible
embroidery.
It’s always fun to spend a weekend with people who share our interest in
antique quilts. If you’re interested in future Quilt Colleges, please contact
VQTS at vqts1@airmail.net.
Sharon Cheng
Ft. Worth, TX
Date Mon, 01 Mar 1999 214341 -0800
From Patty Casselberry friend@cyberverse.com
To QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL Re goods, material and fabric
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Hi Nina!
Me too! My grandmother was a tailor way back when…she died at the age of 106 or 96, depending on who does the math. At any rate, she and my Mom always referred to fabric as “goods”. In Home Ec – 6th grade?!?, good grief that was 38 years ago! – we purchased “material” to make our mandatory skirt. Now, I shop for fabric. Oddly enough, fabric stores have always been fabric stores to me…but when I shopped for material I went to JC Penny to get it because we didn’t have any fabric stores (now fabric shops) where I lived (central Florida).
My grandmother lived in Steubenville, Ohio…do you suppose “goods” might have been a regional term?
My grandmother sewed every stitch that I wore until the age of 18- and then
I still got many special outfits over the years that my GM and Mom tailored
for me. My Grandmom is now 95 and fabric was always referred to as “goods”
, and I always supposed that was shortened from Yard Goods. As we strolled
through a yard goods dept of a department store ( yeah- remember when the
best place to purchase fabric was in your multi storied department store )
she would stroke a bolt of camel and wool suiting and comment,” This is a
nice piece of “goods”.
>
Anyone else know of this term used?? I always will think of this term
fondly and remember her.
>
Nina in BC
Date Wed, 3 Mar 1999 061826 EST
From Lekhbah@aol.com
To QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL Fwd QHL REDWORK PROGRAM
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Libby,
I thought you might br interested.
Kim
Date Wed, 03 Mar 1999 140521 -0500
From Peggy Notestine notestine.11@osu.edu
Hi friends,
A few things needed I am trying to locate an email or written address
for the author of the book Watercolor Quilts. The authors are Pat Maixner
Magaret and Donna Ingram Slusser…. would anyone on this list know how to
reach them other than going through the publisher?
Re old quilt tops i bought an antique triangle (a 1000 pyramid)
utility quilt top several years ago in an antique store for $40.00 and then
spent 5 months handquilting it. I knew that I would keep it in my family,
but I wanted it to be as true as I could, so I quilted it in the Bishop’s
fan style and used 100% cotton batting and backed it in Harriet Hargrave’s
line of fabric at the time. I read “Clues in the Calico” and dated it
between 1890-1910. It was full of cadet blues, blacks, reds, pinks, and
those turn of the century shirting prints. Anyway, I remember having such
fun reading that book and dating the top. After it was done, I clearly
documented everything I had done to it, and to this day, it is still my
favorite quilt I have ever done. And ever since I have read that book, I
have been fascinated with dating fabric. I really admire the experts. I
would like to think I would know a real gem if I ever stumbled across one
before I did anything to it, but every time I watch the Aniques Road show
and think of all these junky looking treasures that people have in their
attics, it does give me pause.
Someone also mentioned having never seen a machine quilted antique quilt
that was anything other than a utility quilt. I happened to have a double
Irish chain quilt that was done we think in 1930, but might be earlier if
it was not my MIL’s aunt who did it, but MIL’s aunt’s mother. Anyway, I
have this gem….the piecing is very nice but the machine quilting is so
unusual in the open areas….it looks like almost something the old
Spirograph game could make. It is heavily quilted, and although I wouldn’t
say it was highly intricate work, it is most definitely elaborate. And I
think in the chain part, it looks something like stippling. The quilt is
just cadet blue and white and besides a foot long rip at the top edge of
the quilt, the darn thing would be near perfect! I will someday have this
repaired, but for now, I enjoy getting it out and looking at it.
Peggy in Columbus, OH
Now down to 20 UFOs from 24 since January 1st….making progress!
P.s. And could somebody please explain why it would be called a prisoner’s
or convict’s quilt it it was made by women coming to Australia to marry.
Were the women convicts, or were they marrying convicts, or did it feel
like prison marrying someone you didn’t know…..!
Date Wed, 03 Mar 1999 130351 -0800
From Mark Kriss mkriss@sandhillarts.com
Thanks again for all the excellent information and comments that many of
you have contributed to the QHL list and to Diana Leone directly regarding
what is believed to be an Australian Prisoners (or Convicts) Quilt Top.
It’s become apparent that more research is needed on this quilt prior to it
being placed on auction. As result, we are seeking suggestions as to who
might be the best expert to perform an independent appraisal of the quilt
prior to the Opening Auction (the dates for which will be announced April 5).
Ideally, we would like to complete the appraisal — and post the findings
— before April 1. If that’s not possible, as seems likely at this point,
we will defer the auction of this particular quilt and feature another one
at the Opening Auction.
Date Wed, 3 Mar 1999 173254 EST
From SudaNim@aol.com
To qhl@cuenet.com
Wow…you guys are bibliovores! There were requests for nearly every title
(including the Soviet textiles books).
This was fun. Got to exchange e-mail with folks, learn a little about what
everyone likes. I also found out it was a little more work than I expected, so
I ended up asking a “handling charge” from most folks an orphan block, or fat
quarter, or other treat. I’m not a bit surprised to see that people here were
understanding, if not downright enthusiastic, about that. Other people swapped
out-of-print books that I had wanted.
I still have two copies of Sandi Fox’s “Small Endearments 19th Century Quilts
for Children and Dolls.” And I’ll keep haunting the used-book stores.
Aline
Date Wed, 03 Mar 1999 151655 +0000
From Bobbie Aug qwltpro@uswest.net
To Peggy Notestine notestine.11@osu.edu
Dear Peggy in Columbus,
I think that, with few exceptions, all antique quilts were utility quilts in that
they were made with a practical purpose in mind – to keep people warm. One
exception would be crazy quilts (they mostly weren’t really quilts as there was no
quilting, but coverlets). These were rarely made for the bed during the Victorian
period. There are a few other exceptions that I have run across in my many years of
“flapping” quilts.
So, machine quilting, hand quilting – both applied to utility quilts. Perhaps what
the person meant to say was “every day” quilts and not machine quilted “company”
quilts. In 1984, I appraised a lovely pine tree quilt that was made for Grover
Cleveland when he ran for office in the 1890’s. If you know this pattern, there are
many pine “trees” with many, many little tiny triangles. Definitely not something
thrown together to ward off the cold drafts. Quite the contrary, I would say. This
was meant to be a special quilt. The quilt was hand pieced and machine quilted. I
am guessing that the maker was very proud of her sewing machine and her ability to
machine quilt and wanted to show off her talents.
When we date quilts or discuss quilt history, we are almost always forced into
making generalizations from specifics, i.e. When was the pattern MOST popular? When
was the pattern first published? What region were you MOST likely to find quilts of
a certain style? and so on. These generalizations are always based upon
substantiated research and fact, but we always allow for that “rebel” quiltmaker who
was way ahead of her time or continued making a certain style of quilt long after
the fad or popularity was over. Keep asking questions and be a good listener.
That’s always been my practice.
Bobbie A. Aug
Date Wed, 03 Mar 1999 224705 +0400
From Xenia Cord <xecord@netusa1.net>
To QHL@cuenet.com
Anyone who needs something to do this weekend might want to check out
the “Great Midwest Quilt Show & Sale,” a long-time show in Lebanon, OH,
sponsored by the local historical society. There are always a lot of
antique quilts vendors there (including me), several quilt exhibits, and
the town is brimming with antique shops. The show is at the National
Guard Armory, 113 Taylor (8 blocks east of the Golden Lamb hotel), and
exhibits are there and at the historical society. It’s a little town;
you can’t get lost. Check it out!
Xenia
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Date Wed, 03 Mar 1999 204906 -0700
From Eileen Trestain <ejtrestain@earthlink.net>
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I have a machine quilted quilt from the turn of the century, complete
with binding (c.1910). I have a friend who has a home in TX and one in
CO, and she has purchased several quilts which appear to be hand
appliqued, quilt-as-you go heavily machine quilted c. 1870 quilts.
There is a museum in Texas that has several machine appliqued and
quilted quilts which were 1920’s. I have a turn of teh century machine
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I have seen quilts which are made from machine quilted fabrics which are
then lined, and these were c. 1890. There are a quite a few machine
quilted late 1800 quilts, once you start looking.
Eileen
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Date Thu, 04 Mar 1999 075825 -0500
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Well, I saw a quilt appraised at the first QRS conference (or was it the
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appraisals and display). Anyway, someone brought in a c.1876 quilt donehttps://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?guci=2.2.0.0.2.2.0.0&client=ca-pub-7894829842659178&output=html&h=280&adk=2723956906&adf=237873106&pi=t.aa~a.3844871378~i.65~rp.4&w=1200&fwrn=4&fwrnh=100&lmt=1312160324&num_ads=1&rafmt=1&armr=3&sem=mc&pwprc=1795321837&psa=1&channel=2890770851&ad_type=text_image&format=1200×280&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F99063.htm&flash=0&fwr=0&pra=3&rh=200&rw=1719&rpe=1&resp_fmts=3&wgl=1&fa=27&adsid=ChEIgIWU_QUQwte748CO7KupARJMAHX9LxKjQ4uzsBPSu6vBE6UCJ-J579fRESp9k01Z0DzSTxBm7siIAJP6d06jBFRCn-Yxop2Dka0htJnRXXAQuaE4riB4GsS6t4TaTw&tt_state=W3siaXNzdWVyT3JpZ2luIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9hZHNlcnZpY2UuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbSIsInN0YXRlIjowfSx7Imlzc3Vlck9yaWdpbiI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXR0ZXN0YXRpb24uYW5kcm9pZC5jb20iLCJzdGF0ZSI6MH1d&dt=1604703560750&bpp=3&bdt=2798&idt=3&shv=r20201104&cbv=r20190131&ptt=9&saldr=aa&abxe=1&cookie=ID%3D6f9084c9ff075121-2200a37b35c400e9%3AT%3D1603202495%3ART%3D1603202495%3AS%3DALNI_MbgWhA9zHCrqqyMVOiGHmJY9dFZkA&prev_fmts=160x600_as%2C0x0%2C1200x280%2C1200x280&nras=4&correlator=1106266885242&pv_ch=2890770851%2B&frm=20&pv=1&ga_vid=1283543617.1603202497&ga_sid=1604703558&ga_hid=1202161146&ga_fc=0&iag=0&icsg=41610&dssz=9&mdo=0&mso=0&u_tz=-300&u_his=1&u_java=0&u_h=1080&u_w=1920&u_ah=1040&u_aw=1920&u_cd=24&u_nplug=1&u_nmime=2&adx=444&ady=1907&biw=1903&bih=937&scr_x=0&scr_y=0&eid=21068433%2C44730557&oid=3&psts=AGkb-H8E0YahNGA6BYex8o7olZd51bGiNcbNEd8S7g60r-5XzsnLBMoCVA&pvsid=576950064073876&pem=49&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F1999.htm&rx=0&eae=0&fc=1408&brdim=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C937&vis=1&rsz=%7C%7Cs%7C&abl=NS&alvm=r20201103&fu=8320&bc=23&jar=2020-11-06-21&ifi=4&uci=a!4&btvi=3&fsb=1&xpc=L6EWVfQnQg&p=http%3A//quilthistory.com&dtd=83044
in one patch – muslin and centennial panels (all the same). The entire
piece had been simply quilted on one of the old chain-style stitch
sewing machines. Definitely not a utility quilt.
Alan
who bought his first roll of freezer paper last night – making my art
quilts (new techniques to try) and needed to stabilize a piece of muslin
18×24. Laughed out loud when I opened the box, and inside the top were
tips for quilters! The Reynolds company is decidedly paying attention to
their customer base ……
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Alan mentioned that Reynolds Paper seems to be in touch with their customer
base…well I’m writing them today to suggest that they put out a box/packet
of their freezer paper in an 81/2 by 11 inch size, that will be compatible
with printers…
Let’s see what the response will be…Maybe we all should do it….look at
what we did with the quilted Bathroom tissue company….
jean
jquilt@aol.com
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 093350 -0600
From DSefton@kcstar.com
Hello all. Dru Sefton here, the reporter at The Kansas City Star. Many
thanks to all of you who replied to my query re Kansas City Star quilt
patterns for The Star’s upcoming book.
One more thing I’m looking for Photographs of quilters from the 1940s
through the early 1960s. Believe it or not, I’m having all kinds of trouble
locating any photographs! I can find quilting photos from the 1930s and
earlier and the 1970s and later, but 1940s, ’50s and early ’60s photos are
proving elusive.
If anyone out there has photos of women quilting, quilting bees, women
displaying their quilts, etc., in their personal collection, I’d be grateful
to hear. The Star would pay for a copy negative so you wouldn’t have to send
the original – and you would then have the negative for future use. Also,
you would receive credit in our upcoming book. And a few free copies, of
course.
Any HELP is much appreciated!!!! Best, Dru
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 073454 -0800
From “Robins-Morris, Laura A” <lrobins@fhcrc.org>
>I think that, with few exceptions, all antique quilts were utility
quilts >in that they were made with a practical purpose in mind – to
keep people >warm.
I would beg to differ. I think there are more than a “few exceptions”.
Maybe the majority (though I’m not even convinced of that, especially in
this century) were intended for use and warmth, but so many of the
quilts that have lasted until today are here because they were not used
or used infrequently. They were made for show and were put out as
beautiful bed covers and for special company. Sometimes warmth was way
down the list.
I think that some historians have pointed out, or given us good reason
to infer, that many women who had the time for fine needlework and the
money for pretty coordinated fabrics made quilts for many of the reasons
we do today — because they enjoyed doing it and it was a means ofhttps://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?guci=2.2.0.0.2.2.0.0&client=ca-pub-7894829842659178&output=html&h=280&adk=2723956906&adf=1837701830&pi=t.aa~a.3844871378~i.177~rp.4&w=1200&fwrn=4&fwrnh=100&lmt=1312160324&num_ads=1&rafmt=1&armr=3&sem=mc&pwprc=1795321837&psa=1&channel=2890770851&ad_type=text_image&format=1200×280&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F99063.htm&flash=0&fwr=0&pra=3&rh=200&rw=1719&rpe=1&resp_fmts=3&wgl=1&fa=27&adsid=ChEIgIWU_QUQwte748CO7KupARJMAHX9LxKjQ4uzsBPSu6vBE6UCJ-J579fRESp9k01Z0DzSTxBm7siIAJP6d06jBFRCn-Yxop2Dka0htJnRXXAQuaE4riB4GsS6t4TaTw&tt_state=W3siaXNzdWVyT3JpZ2luIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9hZHNlcnZpY2UuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbSIsInN0YXRlIjowfSx7Imlzc3Vlck9yaWdpbiI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXR0ZXN0YXRpb24uYW5kcm9pZC5jb20iLCJzdGF0ZSI6MH1d&dt=1604703560806&bpp=3&bdt=2854&idt=4&shv=r20201104&cbv=r20190131&ptt=9&saldr=aa&abxe=1&cookie=ID%3D6f9084c9ff075121-2200a37b35c400e9%3AT%3D1603202495%3ART%3D1603202495%3AS%3DALNI_MbgWhA9zHCrqqyMVOiGHmJY9dFZkA&prev_fmts=160x600_as%2C0x0%2C1200x280%2C1200x280%2C1200x280%2C1200x280%2C1200x280&nras=7&correlator=1106266885242&pv_ch=2890770851%2B&frm=20&pv=1&ga_vid=1283543617.1603202497&ga_sid=1604703558&ga_hid=1202161146&ga_fc=0&iag=0&icsg=41610&dssz=9&mdo=0&mso=0&u_tz=-300&u_his=1&u_java=0&u_h=1080&u_w=1920&u_ah=1040&u_aw=1920&u_cd=24&u_nplug=1&u_nmime=2&adx=444&ady=4755&biw=1903&bih=937&scr_x=0&scr_y=0&eid=21068433%2C44730557&oid=3&psts=AGkb-H8E0YahNGA6BYex8o7olZd51bGiNcbNEd8S7g60r-5XzsnLBMoCVA&pvsid=576950064073876&pem=49&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F1999.htm&rx=0&eae=0&fc=1408&brdim=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C937&vis=1&rsz=%7C%7Cs%7C&abl=NS&alvm=r20201103&fu=8320&bc=23&jar=2020-11-06-21&ifi=7&uci=a!7&btvi=6&fsb=1&xpc=IExYYJ50Tb&p=http%3A//quilthistory.com&dtd=83023
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quilts, the intricately pieced quilts, and the beautiful pieces with
elaborate hand quilting. And the same is probably true for the
quilting revival of the 20’s and 30’s. Most people had easy access to
inexpensive blankets but women found they liked making quilts, and were
sometimes spurred on by competitions (e.g. Barbara Brackman’s “Patchwork
Souvenirs” about the 1932 World’s Fair quilt competition and the local
contests preceding it). Practical purpose probably wasn’t the
motivating factor for that many.
I just suggest that the words “with few exceptions, all..practical
purpose…warmth” are a little extreme. Even when quilts were (or are
today) used as blankets, that doesn’t mean that warmth was their primary
reason for being made. Quilters just liked making quilts. The fact
that they also have a real use is just icing on the cake!
Laura in Seattle
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 075956 -0800
From Kathy Tavares <kmtavare@uci.edu>
Peggy
I’m not a historian and until recently didn’t pay to much attention to
history. That’s the DH job (teacher). Anyway, I had an Australian
housekeepper about 23 years ago and she had said the she was descendant
from a woman who went to Australia from England as somewhat of a
slave/convict. The womand had been arrested in England and her punishment
was time in jail in England or going to Australia and making herself
available to be married by a man who was settling there. I have no idea if
this is even close to being true.
Hi friends,
A few things needed I am trying to locate an email or written address
for the author of the book Watercolor Quilts. The authors are Pat Maixner
Magaret and Donna Ingram Slusser…. would anyone on this list know how to
reach them other than going through the publisher?
Re old quilt tops i bought an antique triangle (a 1000 pyramid)
utility quilt top several years ago in an antique store for $40.00 and then
spent 5 months handquilting it. I knew that I would keep it in my family,
but I wanted it to be as true as I could, so I quilted it in the Bishop’s
fan style and used 100% cotton batting and backed it in Harriet Hargrave’s
line of fabric at the time. I read “Clues in the Calico” and dated it
between 1890-1910. It was full of cadet blues, blacks, reds, pinks, and
those turn of the century shirting prints. Anyway, I remember having such
fun reading that book and dating the top. After it was done, I clearly
documented everything I had done to it, and to this day, it is still my
favorite quilt I have ever done. And ever since I have read that book, I
have been fascinated with dating fabric. I really admire the experts. I
would like to think I would know a real gem if I ever stumbled across one
before I did anything to it, but every time I watch the Aniques Road show
and think of all these junky looking treasures that people have in their
attics, it does give me pause.
Someone also mentioned having never seen a machine quilted antique
quilt
that was anything other than a utility quilt. I happened to have a double
Irish chain quilt that was done we think in 1930, but might be earlier if
it was not my MIL’s aunt who did it, but MIL’s aunt’s mother. Anyway, I
have this gem….the piecing is very nice but the machine quilting is so
unusual in the open areas….it looks like almost something the old
Spirograph game could make. It is heavily quilted, and although I wouldn’t
say it was highly intricate work, it is most definitely elaborate. And I
think in the chain part, it looks something like stippling. The quilt is
just cadet blue and white and besides a foot long rip at the top edge of
the quilt, the darn thing would be near perfect! I will someday have this
repaired, but for now, I enjoy getting it out and looking at it.
Peggy in Columbus, OH
Now down to 20 UFOs from 24 since January 1st….making progress!
P.s. And could somebody please explain why it would be called a prisoner’s
or convict’s quilt it it was made by women coming to Australia to marry.
Were the women convicts, or were they marrying convicts, or did it feel
like prison marrying someone you didn’t know…..!
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 080424 -0800
From “Robins-Morris, Laura A” <lrobins@fhcrc.org>
P.S to my post — I might have a bit extreme myself and projected too
much of our 1990’s feelings about quilting onto past generations. I
only meant that the need for creative expression has been around a long
time and it shouln’t be overlooked in quilts made long ago. Function is
not always primary in the creation of functional objects.
I should just stick to lurking.
Laura in Seattle
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 124712 EST
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Patty –
Nope, not regional. The old term was “dry goods.” Why it’s now usually
“fabric” is beyond me. I’m also curious as to whether there were any “wet
goods.” Anyone know?
Karen Evans
Easthampton, MA
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 110005 -0800
From “R & L Carroll” <Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net>
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Laura, just wanted to say that I agree with you.
As a quilter who has made over a hundred quilts, there is definitely a
difference between the quilts I consider utility quilts and those I put on
the beds only occasionally, or in the case of my appliqued album quilts, not
at all.
One only has to look at some of the beautiful quilts that survive from the
19th century to see that these quilts were never meant to be used and used
up. Many women made quilts with beautiful expensive fabrics, extensive
intricate quilting, complicated piecing, and beautiful time consuming
applique. Hundreds and hundreds of hours of a woman’s life went into these
quilts.
Some of these women left orders with the family that certain quilts were
not to be used, and suggested ways that the quilts could be passed down from
one generation to another.
The fact that so many of them were made with the thinnest of batting, so
that the quilting could be finer, confirms that warmth was not that
important.
When I consider that 19th century women didn’t have electronic sewing
machines and all the gadgets we have to make quilts I’m sure that they
valued their time at least as much as I do. They also didn’t have all of
the appliances we do to give us more time to quilt.
When I use the term “Utility quilt” I mean a quilt that was made to be used
daily with the knowledge that it would someday be used up.
I realize that this is probably a relative term. To one person a quilt
might seem very special and worthy of a place in the cedar chest and to
another person the same quilt would just be another quilt to use on the
bed.
I, myself, now consider some of my earlier quilts not so special, because
the quilts I’ve made since are so much nicer.
Laurette in So. California
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Date Thu, 04 Mar 1999 122523 +0000
From Bobbie Aug <qwltpro@uswest.net>
To “Robins-Morris, Laura A” <lrobins@fhcrc.org>
CC “‘QHL@cuenet.com'” <QHL@cuenet.com>
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I considered quilts made as bed covers utilitarian, whether they were slept
under often or infrequently – they were made for a useful purpose. We do
not disagree. A matter of language chosen.
Bobbie a. Aug
Robins-Morris, Laura A wrote
> >From QHL Digest #62
> >I think that, with few exceptions, all antique quilts were utility
> quilts >in that they were made with a practical purpose in mind – to
> keep people >warm.
>
> I would beg to differ. I think there are more than a “few exceptions”.
> Maybe the majority (though I’m not even convinced of that, especially in
> this century) were intended for use and warmth, but so many of the
> quilts that have lasted until today are here because they were not used
> or used infrequently. They were made for show and were put out as
> beautiful bed covers and for special company. Sometimes warmth was way
> down the list.
> I think that some historians have pointed out, or given us good reason
> to infer, that many women who had the time for fine needlework and the
> money for pretty coordinated fabrics made quilts for many of the reasons
> we do today — because they enjoyed doing it and it was a means of
> creative expression. That’s certainly true of the 19th century applique
> quilts, the intricately pieced quilts, and the beautiful pieces with
> elaborate hand quilting. And the same is probably true for the
> quilting revival of the 20’s and 30’s. Most people had easy access to
> inexpensive blankets but women found they liked making quilts, and were
> sometimes spurred on by competitions (e.g. Barbara Brackman’s “Patchwork
> Souvenirs” about the 1932 World’s Fair quilt competition and the local
> contests preceding it). Practical purpose probably wasn’t the
> motivating factor for that many.
>
> I just suggest that the words “with few exceptions, all..practical
> purpose…warmth” are a little extreme. Even when quilts were (or are
> today) used as blankets, that doesn’t mean that warmth was their primary
> reason for being made. Quilters just liked making quilts. The fact
> that they also have a real use is just icing on the cake!
> Laura in Seattle
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Date Thu, 04 Mar 1999 124605 +0000
From Bobbie Aug <qwltpro@uswest.net>
To “Robins-Morris, Laura A” <lrobins@fhcrc.org>,
“‘QHL@cuenet.com'” <QHL@cuenet.com>
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A note to my post
Guess I obviously didn’t do a very good job of explaining my opinion. What I
was trying to say was crazy quilts made in the last quarter of the 19th century
were made, I believe, to showcase women’s (primarily women) needlework talents
and were only made to be draped over the couch or piano. Today, we consider
quilts made to hang on the wall, wall quilts and like the crazies, have no
“utility” to them. MOST of the antique quilts (except crazies) were made bed
size. Compare the sizes of beds during whatever quarter century to the size of
quilts made during that same quarter century. What about Baltimore Album
quilts? Were they not made in the 1840’s in sizes comparable to the beds in
use at that time? They had to be made with the idea of being placed on a bed
in mind.
Now, people have been using quiltmaking for decades as a vehicle for artistic
expression. And, continue to explore this medium. I’m just saying that the
quilts were made in sizes to fit beds! Hopefully, this clarifies what I was
originally trying to clarify. However, it is reassuring that 1) people read
what you take the time to write and 2) quilt lovers have such strong spirts!
Bobbie A. Aug
Bobbie Aug wrote
> I considered quilts made as bed covers utilitarian, whether they were slept
> under often or infrequently – they were made for a useful purpose. We do
> not disagree. A matter of language chosen.
> Bobbie a. Aug
>
> Robins-Morris, Laura A wrote
>
> > >From QHL Digest #62
> > >I think that, with few exceptions, all antique quilts were utility
> > quilts >in that they were made with a practical purpose in mind – to
> > keep people >warm.
> >
> > I would beg to differ. I think there are more than a “few exceptions”.
> > Maybe the majority (though I’m not even convinced of that, especially in
> > this century) were intended for use and warmth, but so many of the
> > quilts that have lasted until today are here because they were not used
> > or used infrequently. They were made for show and were put out as
> > beautiful bed covers and for special company. Sometimes warmth was way
> > down the list.
> > I think that some historians have pointed out, or given us good reason
> > to infer, that many women who had the time for fine needlework and the
> > money for pretty coordinated fabrics made quilts for many of the reasons
> > we do today — because they enjoyed doing it and it was a means of
> > creative expression. That’s certainly true of the 19th century applique
> > quilts, the intricately pieced quilts, and the beautiful pieces with
> > elaborate hand quilting. And the same is probably true for the
> > quilting revival of the 20’s and 30’s. Most people had easy access to
> > inexpensive blankets but women found they liked making quilts, and were
> > sometimes spurred on by competitions (e.g. Barbara Brackman’s “Patchwork
> > Souvenirs” about the 1932 World’s Fair quilt competition and the local
> > contests preceding it). Practical purpose probably wasn’t the
> > motivating factor for that many.
> >
> > I just suggest that the words “with few exceptions, all..practical
> > purpose…warmth” are a little extreme. Even when quilts were (or are
> > today) used as blankets, that doesn’t mean that warmth was their primary
> > reason for being made. Quilters just liked making quilts. The fact
> > that they also have a real use is just icing on the cake!
> > Laura in Seattle
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Date Thu, 4 Mar 1999 175330 -0000
From “Sally Ward” <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk>
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Save your second thoughts Laura – I think you have a good point. If =
utility was the over-riding factor in quiltmaking, why would people cut =
the fabric up at all? Or bother to make complicated patterns? And if =
‘patchwork’ was a way of using up small scraps and reclaimed fabric, =
why is it evident in so many old quilts that there were large pieces =
of new fabric deliberately cut up for the design?. Even in ‘real’ =
utility quilts made from, perhaps, woollen cloth samples, you can =
usually see that the maker took the time to arrange colours in a =
pleasing fashion, not just stick them together any old how..
The same priniciples apply as do to working in wood, metal, or any other =
medium. Table/chair legs would work without embellishment or turning, =
weather vanes would point the direction whether or not they look like a =
house/pig/boat/whatever, and ancient Romans could have pinned their =
clothes together without their brooches having complicated designs or =
inlaid stones. When it comes to creativity, we are talking basic human =
instinct.
Sally in UK
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From: Katrina Worley <kworley@ns.net
Yep- there were “wet” goods… things like pickles, milk, ale, butter,
eggs; what we would call perishibles, things that needed refrigeration.
Dry goods were all those dry things (both edible and not) that could be
stored in a dry place… like fabric (yard goods, ’cause they were sold by
the yard, aka yardage), flour, soap, crackers, clothing and stuff like
that. Therefore, the “dry goods” store sold only “dry goods” i.e., nothing
that needed to be refrigerated.
Katrina
Katrina in Loomis, CA
kworley@ns.net
History: what special people were doing in special places at special times;
Anthropology: what everyone else was doing the rest of the time.
**K. Worley, 1997**
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:39:54 EST
From: JQuilt@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: freezer paper
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Or, maybe Reynolds could make a roll of freezer paper 11 inches wide…and we
could cut 8 1/2 inch pieces from it.
The website to contact Reynolds paper is:
jean
jquilt@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:36:37 EST
From: JQuilt@aol.com
To: info-eq@planetpatchwork.com, qhl@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Freezer Paper
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The website to contact Reynolds freezer paper is
jean
jquilt@aol.com
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:33:49 -0500
From: “J. G. Row” Judygrow@blast.net
To: “Quilt History List” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: NQR — maybe, maybe not, your call
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Along with many other useful and useless things, in the past few days I have
come into possession of 6 (1/2 lb.) boxes of “Steel Bank Pins.” They
obviously came in many sizes, because I have sizes 20 ( 1 1/4″) and 28 (1
3/4″). The are labeled solid head, needle pointed (absolutely), spring
brass or steel. They are made by Acco Co., Ltd, England and Vail
Manufacturing , Chicago. These are the largest pins I have ever seen, but
they definitely are pins.
Does anyone have any idea what they were manufactured for? I can’t see any
textile use, unless it is for holding heavy open weave tweeds. What use
would a bank have for such pins? Unless they were used instead of paper
clips or staples for holding papers. I’d love to find a textile use for
them, they are so “neat!” But, hit one of them with your sewing machine
needle and say “bye-bye” to the machine!
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:38:27 -0800
From: “R & L Carroll” Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net
To: “QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: quilt lists
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Hello!
I like this list so much, I thought I might like to try another list, too.
A few of you have mentioned belonging to another list also.
Do any of you belong to other lists that are similar ? Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Laurette in So. California
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:08:04 -0800
From: “R & L Carroll” Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net
To: “QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: freezer paper
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Jean, I thought you might like to know that I took a class with Cynthia
England who uses freezer paper extensively for her quilts, and she mentioned
that freezer paper was available in 81/2″ x 11″ sheets. ??? She knows
someone who can get it, but she did not have the information with her that
day. I have never seen it. If you get any more information, please let us
know.
Thanks, Laurette
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:42:22 EST
From: QuiltFixer@aol.com
To: lrobins@fhcrc.org, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: RE: antique quilts/utility quilts
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In a message dated 3/4/99 8:04:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, lrobins@fhcrc.org
writes:
<< I should just stick to lurking. >>
I don’t think so Laura. 🙂 I like to see some real feelings and opinions
expressed on this list. Toni B.
QuiltFixer@aol.com
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:37:35 -0500
From: Nancy Roberts robertsn@norwich.net
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Dry/wet goods
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Karen from Mass. asked if there were “wet goods.” I wonder if these were the
domain of the cooper. Such goods as molasses were shipped/stored in barrels
at one time. I believe that dry items like flour were, too, prior to the
cotton sack era. If you have a restored historical village near you with a
coopering demonstration, it’s worth seeing this fascinating “bygone” craft.
Just a thought. Nancy
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:46:21 -0800
From: Debra Roby debroby@earthlink.net
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re:QHL: freezer paper campaign
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Sorry that this has nothing to do with history (except for the history
we are creating ourselves).
QHL-Digest-request@cuenet.com wrote:
Jean wrote:
Alan mentioned that Reynolds Paper seems to be in touch with their customer
base…well I’m writing them today to suggest that they put out a box/packet
of their freezer paper in an 81/2 by 11 inch size, that will be compatible
with printers…
Let’s see what the response will be.
Personally, I would love this idea. I have developed a really fun
technique for a mindless piecing project that requires lots of freezer
paper. (I call it a “soccer mom” piecing technique…) However, there is
one problem I see with this (and I’m trying to figure out how to get
around it without buying a new printer)…
Most photocopiers and inkjet printers use heat sensitive ink. So when
an iron hits it, it melts again. I once heard a theory that letting the
ink “age” for several days to a couple weeks will make it less “melt
resistant”, but I haven’t tested that yet. BUt I am sure that I won’t
usually be willing to print off the paper, then wait 2 weeks to use it
in a project.
If Reynolds started marketing freezer paper in sheet sizes, we would
have all these posts from people with inkjet printers who don’t
understand why they’re having problems (like all the people now wanting
to know why when they printed on fabric it all melted and/or washed
away).
I really don’t want to spend money on a lazer printer.
deb roby
hercules, ca.
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:00:56 EST
From: AZquilter9@aol.com
To: info-eq@lyris.planetpatchwork.com
Cc: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Freezer Paper
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Good morning all,
I had to chuckle at our complaints about the size of freezer paper (just
yesterday I had those same complaints while making labels). Are we not the
people who take 45 inch wide fabric by the yards and cut it up into itty bitty
pieces only to stitch them back together? And yet, we absolutely hate the
idea that we have to cut freezer paper 8-1/2 x 11 inches to run through our
printers. We quilters do indeed have unique priorities. Of course, when
Reynolds figures out that they can up the profits by accommodating us with
these sheets, they will probably do it.
Now back to cutting those itty bitty pieces I need to stitch today.
Lois
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:08:02 EST
From: SudaNim@aol.com
To: qhl@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Freezer Paper
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I dunno about subsidizing Reynolds…after all, they’re not the ones who
invented quilted aluminum foil! (Also insert your own snipey comments about
the quilted toilet paper ad campaign here.)
In a message dated 3/5/99 10:02:09 AM, AZquilter9@aol.com writes:
I had to chuckle at our complaints about the size of freezer paper (just
yesterday I had those same complaints while making labels). Are we not
the
people who take 45 inch wide fabric by the yards and cut it up into itty
bitty
pieces only to stitch them back together? And yet, we absolutely hate
the
idea that we have to cut freezer paper 8-1/2 x 11 inches to run through
our
printers. We quilters do indeed have unique priorities. Of course, when
Reynolds figures out that they can up the profits by accommodating us with
these sheets, they will probably do it.
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:11:36 EST
From: JQuilt@aol.com
To: qhl@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: response
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because so often when repairing heritage quilts…we repair appliques..and I
do use freezer paper for appliques…
anyway here’s the response I received,from Reynolds Paper.
jean
jquilt@aol.com
Jean:
Thank you for your interest in our company. Reynolds receives many ideas
for products, promotions, and advertising campaigns from interested
consumers like you. We have found that most every one of these ideas have
already been considered or used by Reynolds or other companies. Also, the
practice of considering unsolicited ideas can give rise to misunderstandings
as to the origin and ownership of particular ideas. Therefore, we, along
with many companies, have adopted a general policy of not accepting
unsolicited ideas and suggestions.
If we may be of further assistance, please let us know.
Mary K. Duffer, The Reynolds Kitchens
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:16:43 -0600
From: Jocelyn jocelynm@sw1.socwel.ukans.edu
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V99 #59
Message-id: 01J8H6U7R4IQ00Z0AA@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU
D
There are certain quilt tops that cannot be quilted by
hand because they would fall apart during quilting. Even machine quilting
would be a strain, so those are sometimes simply backed and either tied,
or have no batting, just a backing and binding. Again, it depends on the
owners ultimate intent for the quilt
I’m confused. Hand quilting a top is harder on it than machine
quilting it? Are we talking about sewing machine, or quilting
machine? What about hand quilting is harsh?
Jocelyn
Jocelynm@delphi.com
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:26:13 -0600
From: Jocelyn jocelynm@sw1.socwel.ukans.edu
To: QHL-Digest@cuenet.com, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V99 #63
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Nope, not regional. The old term was “dry goods.” Why it’s now usually
“fabric” is beyond me. I’m also curious as to whether there were any “wet
goods.” Anyone know?
They weren’t called wet goods, per se. The difference was, dry
goods were nonperishable food items (the sort of things we’re now
asked to donate to food pantries), and ‘wet’ goods were sold by
specialty merchants like dairies, butchers, greengrocers, bakers,
etc.
Jocelyn
Jocelynm@delphi.com
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:33:05 -0600
From: Jocelyn jocelynm@sw1.socwel.ukans.edu
To: QHL-Digest@cuenet.com, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V99 #63
I considered quilts made as bed covers utilitarian, whether they were
slept under often or infrequently – they were made for a useful purpose.
We do not disagree. A matter of language chosen. Bobbie a. Aug
I think the difference is, whether you’d call a wedding gown
‘clothing’ or not. Well, yes, obviously it’s clothing. But brides don’t
buy wedding gowns with the aim of using for any but one specific
occasion, any more. A hundred years ago, a bride might buy a new
dress to be married in, but she would probably choose it for its
serviceability as her ‘best dress’ for years to come (at least, until
the babies came!)
Presumably, people a hundred years ago knew about ‘company
quilts’. Quilters could tell at a glance if this were a quilt for using, or
for admiring; even children and husbands were probably taught to
leave the fancy quilts alone. I suspect that the 20th century
equivalent of the fancy quilts are ‘guest towels’– we’re all taught by
our moms not to use them, that they’re just there for show, and so
we resist using them, even if we ARE the guests!
I can imagine a visiting couple of 100 years ago: ‘George, don’t you
DARE lay down on that quilt! Help me fold it up and put it on the
chair before we mess it up!’
Jocelyn
Jocelynm@delphi.com
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:34:51 -0500
From: Jean Binns Smith shejean@vicon.net
To: “Quilter’s Heritae List” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Pat Margart, Donna Slusser
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Pat Margaaret and Donna Slusser both live in Pullman, Washington. I
have a freind who knows them both and was responsible for bring them to
this area for a workshop a few years ago. She has misplacaed Pat’s
address at the moment, but here is Donna’s
Donna Slusser
1201 Kemgard Rd.
Pullman, Wa. 99163.
Jean Smith in Bellefonte, PA.
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:53:36 -0000
From: “Jenni Dobson” jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk
I was interested to read the posts about quilts made for utility or not. =
I don’t necessarily think that the size of a quilt tells you that it was =
made for a bed.
Let me explain: over here in the UK, crazy patchwork was also quite =
popular in the late Victorian period. At that time, legs were considered =
most improper – to the extent that either they could be concealed by =
gathered ‘leggings’ of fabric – or you made a table cover so large =
that it covered all the space from the table top to the ground thus =
hiding the legs! And over here such covers were often crazy patchwork! =
That means that the resulting cover could easily be as big as a bed =
cover. Incidentally on the shameful topic of legs, some famous writer =
(sorry, I can’t recall who) wrote later in life that when he was small, =
he didn’t think ladies had legs like he did, being a small boy!
In passing, for Australian readers re convict transportation. I heard =
not long ago, if you trace your ancestors & find they were convicts =
shipped out from Nottingham, it is maybe the only city which still has a =
full record of all convicts sent out. Apparently most other such cities, =
like Bristol or Liverpool, lost most of their records during bombings in =
WW2.
Excuse that NQR aside, please.
Jenni D in frosty UK.
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:01:03 EST
From: KareQuilt@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
S
We just learned last Saturday that my dear mother-in-law, Wini Alexander of
Lopez Island, WA, has inoperable ovarian cancer. She has been a prolific
quilter since 1976, as well as editor of many a guild newsletter over the
years, and is the one responsible for getting me into quilting. I had just
begun to interview her for a possible article on the modern “international
round robins” the week before the cancer was discovered. My kids adore her.
My son (in Portland, OR), who has been so proud of the quilts she has made for
him over the years, just e-mailed me today that he thought we should make a
lap quilt for her use during the few months she may have left (certainly much
less than a year). My daughter-in-law suggested we print directly on fabric
from the fabulous printers she has access to at work. I know nothing about
this process, and since I am on my way out the door early tomorrow a.m. for a
business trip, and half of my quilt stuff is already packed for an expected
move locally in April, it is going to be a bit difficult for me to try to find
the info. If any of you have experience with this process or can site an
issue of QNL magazine, perhaps I can dig up the info when I get back. (I
think my daughter-in-law has the last year’s issues of QNL.) Would you so
kind as to e-mail my kids if you think you can help? Thank you so very much
for your help, as you are able. I know I can always count on quilters.
Already they are jumping to Wini’s aide on Lopez to see that she is well cared
for when she comes home from the hospital, as well as comforting my father-in-
law, Loren, who is taking this VERY hard. My son’s address is
daniela@pcez.com. My daughter-in-law Taryn’s address is
Taryn.Alexander@tek.com. Thanks for your care and concern.
Karen Alexander
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:14:39 -0800
From: Audrey Waite <awquiltr@sedona.net
For those collecting the state quilt documentation books, you can still
purchase copies of the one from seven counties in northwestern
Pennsylvania. It sells for $19.95 plus $3 shipping and 6% tax if you
live in PA. Send check or money order to the Crawford County Historical
Society, 848 North Main Street, Meadville, PA 16335. The title of the
book is “Threads of Tradition: Northwest Pennsylvania Quilts”. Kris may
have copies too.
Any news of the one from Connecticut?
Audrey Waite in sunny, warm Sedona, AZ
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 08:03:48 -0500
From: “Sue and Ray Reich” mreich@ibm.net
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: Quilt Documentation Book
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Hi Audrey Waite,
I just signed onto Cuenet this week. Thanks for asking about CQSP. My
name is Sue Reich, Elizabeth Tishion and I are co-Presidents of Connecticut
Quilt Search Projects. We are alive and well and working very hard to make
our project successful. Things – we are doing right now;
- Writing the book, Covering Connecticut, Connecticut’s Quils and
Quiltmakers. I can’t say exactly when it will be out we are still fund
raising for the photography and searching for the publisher.
- About to go on line with our website. It was great fun to design. Our
server will probably be The Connecticut Historical Society. This
organization in Hartford is going to house our information.
- Completing our database. We are 75% finished with it. We used
Microsoft Access. It is very time consuming. Maureen Gregoire and I have
been hard at work since the fall. We then have to purchase a slide scanner
to scan our slides. The database will also be available at CHS.
- Joined a partnership with Yankee Magazine’s Community Partners Program.
We help sell $20 subscriptions for them and they return $10 of every $20 to
us. It is a sensational PR program for the both of us. Yankee Magazine is
promoting history and New England and Connecticut and we are promoting CQSP
and Yankee Magazine. CQSP was featured in the November issue.
- We have just revised our Documentation forms. We will begin to register
post-1950 quilts. We hope to have the actual quiltmakers do the
documentation part. This way they can tell us about their inspiration,
where they purchased their fabrics, what they costs, the real pattern name,
etc. Historians one hundred and fifty years from now will love us.
So you can see we haven’t exactly been twiddling our thumbs.
I purchased “Threads of Tradition, Northwestern Pennsylvania Quilts”, I
spent my summer growing up on my Grandmother’s farm in Woodcock Burough,
Crawford County, PA. It is a most beautiful area. The book is very nice.
That’s it from Connecticut for now. Sue Reich in Washington Depot, CT
(about to have a snow storm)
From: Audrey Waite awquiltr@sedona.net
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Quilt Documentation Book
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 10:14 PM
>
For those collecting the state quilt documentation books, you can still
purchase copies of the one from seven counties in northwestern
Pennsylvania. It sells for $19.95 plus $3 shipping and 6% tax if you
live in PA. Send check or money order to the Crawford County Historical
Society, 848 North Main Street, Meadville, PA 16335. The title of the
book is “Threads of Tradition: Northwest Pennsylvania Quilts”. Kris may
have copies too.
>
Any news of the one from Connecticut?
>
Audrey Waite in sunny, warm Sedona, AZ
>
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:35:24 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
To: Jocelyn jocelynm@sw1.socwel.ukans.edu, QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: Re: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V99 #59
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Jocelyn,
After you have worked with vintage textiles for 20+ years you learn (often
the hard way) that there are some textiles that as you have quoted below:
There are certain quilt tops that cannot be quilted by
hand because they would fall apart during quilting. Even machine quilting
would be a strain, so those are sometimes simply backed and either tied,
or have no batting, just a backing and binding. Again, it depends on the
owners ultimate intent for the quilt
Some how I missed this original post, but I agree whole heartedly! I have a
top in from a client that 2 years ago another AQS appraiser (who is not a
restoration specialist) along with a dealer told her that the top could be
quilted…..I hesitated then and I am still hesitant, although she is
insistant on having it quilted. I have agreed to do it, using a flannel
sheet as batting and will do it myself because I am afraid that my quilters
beautiful tiny, tiny stitches will do more harm to the tensil strength of
the fibers than help preserve the piece.
It is one of those judgement calls that you learn by “flappin a lot of
quilts”
Laura
In N. Texas where we cant tell what season the weather is pretending to be
except DRY!!!
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I’m confused. Hand quilting a top is harder on it than machine
quilting it? Are we talking about sewing machine, or quilting
machine? What about hand quilting is harsh?
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Jocelyn
Jocelynm@delphi.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 20:48:16 EST
From: Quilt97@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Flynn Frames
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Flynn quilting frames look very simple and efficient. I would appreciate
hearing the pros and cons from anyone who has used one.
Thanks.
Date Sat, 06 Mar 1999 213312 -0600
From KAREN BUSH Birdsong@worldnet.att.net
Okay…Question
I’ve been invited to some more ‘lectures’/talks and have NO program
plan. I LOVE talking about the histories of quilts, etc. the heritage
part of it. But,..I have NO more vintage quilts. When we were in a bind
a few years ago, I sold all my antique quilts. So, a lecture would seem
a little ‘dry’ without them. I could have a trunk show on recent quilts,
but, that’s just my quilting, and most of them are primitve/folk art and
someone else’s designs…Now…WHAT do I talk about?? As you know,…I
have NO problem with talking, I’d just like to talk about something
that’s INTERESTING to them, since they’re paying for these talks!
haha…kb
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Date Sat, 06 Mar 1999 234052 -0600
From KAREN BUSH Birdsong@worldnet.att.net
To QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL machine quilting-just a thought
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Laura, I liked your input and Sally’s on the machine quilted quilts. I
had an idea on why the quilter would USE the machine to quilt. Besides
the time involved, that she may not have had, or the experience…just
HAVING a sewing machine was a novelty and maybe she wanted to ‘show off’
the fact she had one!?
Nowadays, we like to have them hand quilted because they’re ‘special’
with the special touch of hand work…THEN, it was the machine that was
the ‘special touch’….just think how excited some of you are with the
new computerized sewing machines with all the doo-dahs AND the ‘hand
quilted’ look, on a Machine! I remember My Grandma, coming to the States
from England, pitching ALL of her copper, pewter,(that her FATHER
made)…etc. Their luggage was to be limited to ‘necessities’…that was
okay with her, she couldn’t WAIT to get to America a buy…..MELMAC!
hhhhaaaaaa…Just a difference of eras…??? kb (the hand quilter who
just spouted a whole ‘novel’ on MACHINE quilting! LOL)
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- Karen Bush/kb-http//www.idahoquilt.com
-“QUILT AS DESIRED” THE “TELL ALL BOOK” of hand quilting!!!!
- Also, Visit me for HAND QUILTING SERVICES
Date Sun, 07 Mar 1999 003305 -0600
From John Winbigler twinbig@maplecity.com
To QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL Re Intro, and to quilt or not to quilt
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Hi, all,
I’m Tracey Winbigler, an amateur quilter living in Monmouth, IL, with a B.A. in
English Lit., Honors in Writing, who’s been reading this list for a little while
and has felt too intimidated to introduce myself. I respect your collective
reputation, expertise and experience, and will continue to read ( I joke that my
degree is actually “Reading.”) and to learn, but wanted to continue this
discussion
There are certain quilt tops that cannot be quilted by
hand because they would fall apart during quilting. Even machine quilting
would be a strain, so those are sometimes simply backed and either tied,
or have no batting, just a backing and binding. Again, it depends on the
owners ultimate intent for the quilt
I have on layaway at a local antique store a quilt top I suspect is pre-1900 for
two reasons. The condition of the cotton fabric is rough and dry, and there are
spots of a dark stain randomly, with a very few places that seem to be
disintegrating; and the prints resemble the repros I admire in any catalog I can
find. The owner told me that it called for big stitch quilting, rather than fine,
and I wonder, should it be quilted at all? Would tying it to a flannel sheet help
it or hurt it?
Looking forward to being part of this list,
Tracey
up very late because we’ve just bought an iMac to replace our old Performa, and I
had to wait until everyone else went to bed to get on it!
Date Sun, 7 Mar 1999 001736 -0800
Date Sun, 7 Mar 1999 132522 -0800
From “pepper cory” pepcory@bmd.clis.com
Hello all-good thread going here. I have quilted many antique tops, but not
always with good results. From that experience, I would advise someone to
consider if she was determined to use/finish the old top. If she’d be as
happy displaying it decoratively over a quilt rack, why not leave it alone?
If determined to finish the top, try gently washing it (by hand, use soap
like Orvus) and air drying it (plenty of clothes pins, over an already dry
white sheet, right side down). Inspect for dye running, deterioration,
seams unraveling. The stains are not the concern here unless they are
causing the fabrics to deteriorate. Do all mending in the same manner as
the top was made (hand if pieced by hand etc.). Think about a border of new
but coordinating fabric (reproduction fabric). That new border gives the
old top strength just at the edges where it will be handled and get wear.
Quilt in the style of similar old quilts using thin cotton batting. Then
use the quilt ‘for good’ (as the Amish say-) and not as an everyday
bedspread.
If Barbara Brackman was on this list, she’s advise that the old top be left
alone.
Just my 2 cents worth too.
Pepper Cory
PS–the ‘rough and dry’ may be the sizing on the original fabric (top might
have been made from new fresh-from-the-bolt goods-) and will soften up with
washing.
Date Sun, 7 Mar 1999 173603 -0000
From “Jenni Dobson” jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk
To “Quilt History List” QHL@cuenet.com
I’m interested in Laura’s reply to Jocelyn’s question about the =
posssible ill effects of later quilting old quilts.
I’m not an appraiser – we have no such scheme over here.
However, a few years ago, I bought & hand-quilted as finely as I could a =
couple of printed panels with a design & colour that suited our room. =
They sat on the sofa, were washed and used. I was really sad one day to =
notice that the fabric had torn away from the stitching just the way =
postage stamps tear along the perforations. The fabric wasn’t antique & =
OK, they had quite an amount of wear but I think this illustrates why =
really fine quilting might not be practical for antique tops.
Maybe it also explains why some quilts were worked with bigger stitches? =
Not necessarily a lack of skill but the knowledge that slightly larger =
stitching might make a quilt more durable. Very best tiny stitches could =
be invested in the quilts mainly for ‘show’ that wouldn’t be expected to =
get lots of wear & tear. Just my 2 penn’orth, as we say over here!
Date Sun, 7 Mar 1999 224216 -0500
From edwa@intrepid.net
My grandmother machine quilted in the late 20’s and 30’s. Now I wasn’t
around in the 20’s but was here in the 30’s. She made “utility” quilts –
those to sleep under and keep warm at night. They were not fancy but
warm. She machine quilted one way diagonally and the other way by hand.
Before my last aunit died a few years ago, I asked her why grandmother did
it. She said “you have to remember that without central heat, quilts were
used to keep us warm at night, and with a big family it took a lot of
quilts.” It was my aunt’s opinion that machine quilting one direction
acted as a basting then the hand quilting added the little bit of
satisfaction that hand quilting gave. I have at least two of her quilts.
One is a strippy of hand dyed flower sacks quilted in a diamond pattern –
one way machine and the other by hand. The other is a crude medallion type
pattern.
Oldest Machine quilted quilt. The Smithsonian Treasury of American Quilts
by Doris Bowman shows a machine quilted white quilt and while there is no
date indicated, the text suggest it was made between 1851 and 1860 because
it was quilted on a double-thread chain stitch. However it could have been
quilted after 1860 when the lock-stitch machine was introduced. the text
indicates that it was quilted with a double-thread chain stitch which will
date it somewhat.
My opinion on another thread. To quilt a vintage top seems to me to be
asking for heartache. The are probably too fragile to use much and
distroys the vintage quality of the top. If one wants the look, then there
is plenty of good repro fabrics out there. Even displaying an old top can
cause damage due to how heat and humidity effects different colors and
fibres.
Pepper I always thought your opinions were worth more than two
cents……….
Holice Turnbow
Designer, Teacher, Quilt Judge
http//www.quiltingstencils.com
Date Sun, 7 Mar 1999 235136 EST
From Kathi2174@aol.com
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Cc qhl@cuenet.com
Subject Re QHL Thanks Kris!
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Deb,
That’s one of the best things in all the world ….. Public acknowledgment of
a job well done. I agree with you completely! And add my Thanks To Kris !!
Kathi Reyes
Long Beach, Ca
Date Mon, 08 Mar 1999 003206 -0600
From Mary Waller mswaller@iw.net
Karen, for your talk, take whatever you have in the way of quilt tops,
period and reproduction fabric, borrow quilts if possible, and ask the
group you’re speaking to to bring their quilts. You’ll get to see lots
of new quilts, and you don’t have to pack them, haul them and then put
them away again.
Please indulge me a moment on my soapbox…. A quilt is no more or less
special because it has been quilted by hand or by machine. I know how
to hand quilt and how to machine quilt, and I prefer to machine quilt.
I don’t piece by hand, the few times I’ve committed applique I did it on
a sewing machine and my favorite kind of needle has the eye near the
pointy end and a foot pedal attached. I don’t try to imitate
hand-quilting, I use machine quilting for itself and don’t try to
disguise it as something it isn’t. Machine quilting is a skill that
must be learned and practiced, like any other and some of us will be
naturally talented and some won’t. I don’t machine quilt because I
can’t hand quilt; I machine quilt because I like to and I can.
Sewing machines for home use became available about 1850 in the U.S. and
more common in the 1870’s and 1880’s. I have a copy of a Singer manual
from the 1870’s with instructions for using a quilting guide, and my
1891 treadle came with one, which looks just like the one that came with
my 1997 machine. I don’t have documentation, but I wouldn’t be
surprised that the first home-quilted quilts were made around 1850. I
don’t consider a technique that’s been around for 125 to 150 years to be
a novelty. It may be done less frequently and some will enjoy using one
techinque more than the other, or the look of one over the other, and
some may not care either way. It’s still a quilt, no matter how the
thread went in and out of the fabric and batting.
Mary Waller, Vermillion, South Dakota
Date Mon, 8 Mar 1999 074151 -0500
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Does anyone know if there has even been any research done on vintage pattern
books? For example the Grandmother Clark ones or Grandma Drexler?
Debbie in NJ
Date Mon, 08 Mar 1999 084403 -0500
From Merry May cluesew@jerseycape.com
Karen wrote
I’ve been invited to some more ‘lectures’/talks and have NO program
plan. I LOVE talking about the histories of quilts, etc. the heritage
part of it. But,..I have NO more vintage quilts…Now…WHAT do I talk about?? As you know,…I
have NO problem with talking, I’d just like to talk about something
that’s INTERESTING to them, since they’re paying for these talks!
haha…kb
I think this is a great opportunity for you to encourage the people who
will be attending your talk(s) to bring THEIR older quilts in to “show
and share.” Not only will you have less to haul around with you, but
YOU get to see all of the wonderful quilts that have been hiding in
people’s closets (among other places)! (And then you can tell all of US
about them, and make us jealous!) If it were me, I’d also bring a few
of my own pieces, just in case the audience doesn’t get the message from
the sponsor to bring theirs. Do you have any samples of older blocks,
fabrics, etc., so people can see them?
Ginny Gunn used to have everyone bring their quilts and put them all in
the center of the floor (I’m only saying “used to” because I’m not sure
if she still offers this type of program). She’d then take her shoes
off and walk around (doing her best to avoid stepping on the quilts),
trying to put the quilts in somewhat of a chronological order as she
talked about each one, and what “clues” each one was revealing. She
left the “problem child” quilts until the end… the ones that might be
more difficult to assess. For one thing, it gave her a little more time
to think about why the quilt’s clues might bother her, or may not quite
seem to fit together properly.
Just a couple of ideas to toss out at you! … and if you really don’t
like THIS idea, then I’ll be happy to accompany you with MY
collection!! hee hee!
Take care, and have fun. Great topics lately!!
Merry -)
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Date Mon, 8 Mar 1999 085246 EST
From CToczek@aol.com
And more on quilting the old tops…….I tend to side with quilting the tops
if you want to, providing they’re not one-of-a-kind, extraordinary museum type
pieces, but I agree that sometimes it may not be possible or prudent to
handquilt pieces. I have a c.1870’s top of fine quality cottons, hundreds of
tiny pieces which I would love to quilt but am afraid of the consequences.
The seamstress used a scant 1/8th inch seam allowance, many of which have
frayed through over time. I feel certain that even stretching it loosely in a
lap hoop would pull more seams than I could keep up with on the quilting.
Before you decide on whether or not to quilt your personal treasure, check the
seams as well as the condition of the fabric……just another honest, if not
quite expert, opinion.
Carla Toczek at West Point, NY who’s going to Arkansas in search of a week of
spring
Date Mon, 08 Mar 1999 082004 -0600
From Laura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Jenni,
One thing to consider (and this opens a whole other can of worms and
another topic that we repeatedly go back to)
Was the thread that you were quilting with 100% cotton or cotton covered
polyester? And it does make a difference! There have been studies done
on how the thread “lays” into the fabric and also how it reacts (strength
wise) to the cotton fabric. I have a quilt here that was the winner of the
first peoples choice award at the first Dallas Quilt Show (all we did was
peoples choice) and where we added borders to fit a queen size bed and
quilted with poly cotton thread…..it too looks like it was pre-perforated
at the stitching lines. With the cotton thread in the other areas of the
quilt there seems to be no problem.
But back to the original thought…..yes, those tiny tiny stitches, even
with new cotton thread can and WILL cut the vintage fabrics. Just one of
life’s little lessons that we are learning!
Laura
In stormy N. Texas
At 0536 PM 3/7/99 -0000, Jenni Dobson wrote
I’m interested in Laura’s reply to Jocelyn’s question about the
posssible ill effects of later quilting old quilts. I’m not an appraiser
- we have no such scheme over here. &&& OK, they had quite an amount of
wear but I think this illustrates why really fine quilting might not be
practical for antique tops. & tear. Just my 2 penn’orth, as we say over
here! Jenni D in UK.
Date Mon, 08 Mar 1999 100246 -0500
From Margaret Wolff hrtworks@telenet.net
To QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL freezer paper
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Have been reading the posts about Reynolds and the freezer paper sizes. How
about supporting a quilter and using Quilter’s Polly-Paper. It’s freezer
paper though feels a bit thinner to me. Comes in 12″square sheets and is
available through Checker Dist.in packages of 25(I think)sheets.It’s a
product of Quilting Techniques, Inc.The owner of the company is a lovely
person and helpful if you have questions or want to buy bulk direct. I use
it all the time in my applique kits. I’m pleased with it as are my customers.
Margaret
www.heartworksquilts.com
Date Mon, 08 Mar 1999 071150 -0800
From “Julia D. Zgliniec” rzglini1@san.rr.com
To edwa@intrepid.net
CC QHL@cuenet.com
Subject Re QHL Machine Quilting
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Dear QHL,
In late 1997, the Autry Museum of Western Heritage in Los Angeles, CA
had an exhibition called Patterns of Progress Quilts In the Machine
Age. The exhibit was curated by Barbara Brackman. There is a catalog
of the exhibit that is excellent. Both antique and contemporary quilts
are used to illustrate the sewing machine’s impact on quilting and to
trace the development of machine quilting to it’s present state of the
art.
ISBN – 1-882880-04-8
I highly recommend this book to all those interested in the development
of machine quilting.
Regards,
Julia Zgliniec
Date Mon, 08 Mar 1999 111248 -0600 (CST)
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There are short articles over the years by Barbara Brackman in Quilters
Newsletter. There also is some basic info in the back of her book on
quilt patterns. There are additional papers in Uncoverings as well by
different authors. Pardon any typos. I have anew contoured keyboard and
my fingers aren’t used to it.
Laurie in NE Wisconsin waiting for some snow.On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Store
E-Mail Acct. wrote
Does anyone know if there has even been any reseach done on vintage pattern
books? For example the Grandmother Clark ones or Grandma Drexler?
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Debbie in NJ
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Laurie Magee | Email Magee@winnefox.org
Oshkosh Public Library | Phone (920)236-5207
Oshkosh, WI 54901-4985 | Fax (920)236-5228
Date Mon, 8 Mar 1999 093933 -0800
From “R & L Carroll” Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net
To “QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject QHL quilting old tops
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Hello!
I have hand quilted a few old tops and it can be very rewarding. But not
all tops react the same to quilting. The fabrics must be in good condition
to begin with. Other wise the thread will tear the fabric even as you are
quilting. I think most of the 30’s tops could probably be quilted.
One of the first tops I quilted was a charm quilt c1930, with about 500
different fabrics and I didn’t notice any problems. But I will not put it
to hard use or wash it much.
I also quilted a charm quilt top c1880, with about 350 different fabrics.
Most of the fabrics held up fine, but some of the darker prints, which have
tendered from the brown dyes, were tearing from the thread as I was
quilting. I continued quilting with larger stitches which helped. But I
will not be washing this quilt. Of course, these fabrics would not hold up
to washing as a top either.
I was interested in Jenni’s comment on the tiny quilting stitches tearing
the fabrics. I quilt with tiny stitches and have not noticed this problem
with my older quilts that I have been using. I have always used 100% cotton
thread. I have not seen this on antique quilts either. It’s the thread
that breaks.
Jenni, you mention that your quilt was a panel. Did you quilt on the dark
lines outlining the patterns, and is this where the fabric is tearing?
I ask this because the darker browns and blacks weaken the fabrics even now.
I have seen black fabrics in new quilts deteriorating.
Thanks, Laurette in sunny So. California
Date Tue, 9 Mar 1999 232534 EST
From Xroadclown@aol.com
i appreciated receiving the info on the “worm” that was attached to info on
our digest. I guess if you were fortunate enough to pass it by, then you can
pass by the info on how to get rid of it.
just my 2cents
Date Tue, 09 Mar 99 214910 PST
From “dhaynes5” dhaynes5@rmi.net
Thanks for the information. I have been very allergic to Dawn dish washing soap for years. I wondered why my hands have suddenly started itching and were red after washing dishes with the clear Ivory liquid. I will definitely switch. I wish these manufacturers would put something on the label to warn people. My hands were really bad before I figured out it was Dawn the first time around.
DeAnna in beautiful Colorado
dhaynes5@rmi.com
HI GUYS,
finally solved our server problem and can join you again.
I want to let every one know about info I learned from the chemists at
Proter and Gamble. I have been using Ivory liquid for wet cleaning old
textiles for some 20 years now. However, I recently noticed a change in
the way the fabrics were responding. I used up my supply of the white
liquid and bought new, clear Ivory. The clear Ivory is a compleatly
different chemical formula than the old pearl white lotion was. Please
do not use it on any fragile fibers. Ivory dishwashing liquid now is
closer to the chemical formulation of Dawn.
I inquired about the formula of Ivory Snow. The chemist assured me that
it had not changed. The chemical formula of Ivory Snow is almost the
same as Orvus (also made by Proctor and Gamble). It is more
concentrated with a higher degree of what the textile chemists call
“surfacents”.
Ivory Snow is cheaper and easier to find. It is a pure soap and is ph
neutral. However, you REALLY have to rise well! I always taste the
rinse water to be sure that It is totally gone.
I prefer to use Ivory Snow than Orvus because I have more control over
the cleaning power. I can really control the concentration of soap.
One of the things we discussed in Omaha was that we may not be getting
all of the dirt out of these old textiles. that is just as harmful as
not washing at all! The idea is get to them stablized and in as
neutral a state as possible. Remember that the real danger comes not
from the soap, but from the damage to the faibers while being handled
when wet. They get so very heavy.
Cheers, it is good to be back. Newbie Richardson
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Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 070631 -0800
From Debra Roby debroby@earthlink.net
Just an observation.. or maybe a question.
Everyone is writing that Orvus Paste “is a soap not a detergent”. Yet,
the chemical description of it on the large tub is pure Sodium Laureth
Sulfate (or Lauryl or something really close to that, I lost my label),
which, according to my chemist husband is pure detergent.
The purpose of a detergent is to act as a surfactant. That is, to break
up the surface tension that exists in water and on items to be cleaned.
This allows the water to move more easily on, through and around the
items and move dirt away.
I’ve also been told by another chemist/quilter that the clear, free
laundry detergents have the same formulation as Orvus but are obviously
more dilute.
This might just be an addendum to my regular cringe about “chemical
free” things (the only chemically free thing is a total vacuum).
deb
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 103535 -0700
From Brooke Flynn brookeflynn@mcn.net
To qhl@cuenet.com
Greetings – if anyone would be interested in helping in my vendor’s
booth at the April Quilters Heritage Celebration in Lancaster, please
email me privately. Thanks!
Brooke
Flynn Quilt Frame Company
brookeflynn@mcn.net
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 103018 -0600
From Russell-Hill russhill@ctesc.net
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I have to agree with Snow about the lengthy and frightening post this
lady sent. When I got the message and scrolled down and saw the picture
of the fireworks on my screen I paniced to the point my heart was
pounding. I can not afford an expensive repair job on my computer
because someone thought the whole lot of information needed to be
included. It appears that Kris felt it was a bit to much also because
she unsubscribed her. I hope the woman knows why she was unsubscribed.
Otherwise it won’t to do any good. On all the list I have been on with
the worm passing through only the web site addy has been given and that
is all we needed. I realize that you can not get viruses etc from
email but this thing is so awful who knows what it can do. When ever I
saw that message as I scrolled though it was unnerving to say the least.
I realize this woman was trying to be helpful but the addy would have
been enough.
Debbie putting in her .02 worth.
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 135812 -0600
From DSefton@kcstar.com
Hi all, reporter Dru here. In the midst of my digging I have run across a
quilter who has an interesting question Does anyone out there know the
origin of the Double Wedding Ring quilt? As in, origin of the name, time
period, any myths attached to the pattern (good luck to sew before the
nuptials, etc.) She doesn’t have access to the Internet so I told her I’d
post the query for her. Any info greatly appreciated! Or any good books on
the subject? Best, KC Dru
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 162353 -0600
From Laura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Dru,
Karen and I attempted to cover DWR at the June meeting of the Vintage Quilt&
Textile Society and Karen wrote an article in the June ’98 issue of the
VQTS newsletter as well. What we came up with was…..no one really knows.
The Orlofsky’s in “Quilts In America” say that the pattern became popular
in the late 19th Century when it was known as “THe Rainbow” But, In
Kiracofe’s “The American Quilt” he says that he found no reliable
documented examples of a DWR that dates before 1920…
The only book that we could drum up that is really devoted to the DWR is by
Robert Bishop titled” The Roamance of Double Wedding Ring Quilts” Dutton,
1989, ISBN 0-525-24753-X
It mainly deals with the history of the interlocking ring motif but even he
couldn’t pin down who “penned” it DWR……
Laura
In cloudy, cool and threatning thunderstorms N. Texas
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 182713 +0000
From shirleyb@klis.com
Thanks Deb. for your encouragement. One woman flamed me (not really
bad). I think you know me well enough that I am usually pretty
modest in what I mail but that scard me to death also as I am
just about completely illiterate.
Blessings
Snow
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 184804 -0500
From paul hahn phahn@erols.com
Thanks Laura for letting us know of the misfortunes of Sharon Tandy.
Hope our notes cheer her up. I know my Mennonite friends in Lancaster
County, PA love to show off their treasures from what they call a “tea
towel shower” when one of them go through an illness, and word is
spread to sent a cheery tea towel along with a card. When I went
through my fabric swatches to send along to Sharon, I realized, more
than anything, I need to organize my collection of swatches, yardage,
scraps, etc. Laura, could you briefly describe Sharon’s fabric dating
book–is it archival with special paper, dividers? Does she jot notes
with each piece noting location found, approx. date, etc? Wow, this
could be a project! Just wondering if you could describe what Sharon
found to be the best way to organize these treasures.
Nancy Hahn, Annapolis , Maryland–enjoying this late season snowstorm
as the snow day off from school gives me additional time to play with my
fabrics.
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 001015 -0000
From “Jenni Dobson” jenni@dobson4qu.freeserve.co.uk
Re the perforations again in response to an enquiry on the spacing of =
the lines of quilting – there was a central motif with an irregular =
outline, but then the design was printed to look like concentric rows of =
lace etc., so I guess mostly the quilting rows were around 1/2 – 3/4″ =
apart. And the panels were actually two cushions, not a quilt as someone =
seems to have thought – I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear. So I =
don’t think it was the weight of water on these itmes that caused the =
damage – I think it was just regular use – what we call ‘wear & tear’ =
but the fact remains that the fabric still tore away from the stitching =
- which is still intact right through to the backing. That is all the =
point that I was making.
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 223510 -0600
From Quiltbaronaol.com (by way of “Kris Driessen, Hickory Hill Quilts” )
I have a gift shoppe and sell some quilt in Jenks, OK. A customer from
Australia came into our shop several months ago to purchase a wedding ring
quilt for a wedding which is next weekend. I have just received an e-mail from
him requesting a story about the “wedding ring” quilt for the newly married
couple to include with the quilt. If you have a story relating the history of
the wedding ring pattern or any information at all could you please e-mail to
me or fax to (918) 298-5097. He has contacted me rather late and I am
searching high and low for information…would appreciate your help. Thanks,
Paula Applegate
Quiltbaronaol.com
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 200426 -0300
From susan silva
To QHL
QHL friends, I dearly hope someone out there can help me! Eight years
ago I made a quilt for my sister and last Saturday she had a fire in her
house. 75% is destroyed and the rest has so much smoke/chemical damage
that we aren’t really sure if anything will be saved.The quilt looks ok
but the smoke smell is just overpowering. I’ve washed it once, but the
smell is still there. Any suggestions? On a brighter note, her puppy
dogs were outside so they are O.K. We can replace “stuff” but not
people, so we are just counting our blessings. On an even brighter note,
I plan to visit Wash.D.C. next month, and my DH & I will have 3 days to
travel outside of the city. I was thinking of Baltimore(quilts….hum.)
or maybe south to Richmond,Virgina Beach, or where ever. There must be
some great museums in Baltimore where I can see great Balt. Album
Quilts. Any recommendations from world travelers out there? Thanks so
much!
A Washington State quilter, Susan C.Silva
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 230947 EST
From SadieRoseaol.com
Hello,
A friend of mine, who is a curator of a local museum, is looking for a Red
Cross quilt that they might be able to borrow for an exhibit. The exhibit is
from April – August this year. If you know of a Red Cross quilt that might be
available, please contact rventercfu-cybernet.net
Thanks!! Karan from snowy Iowa
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 201656 -0800
From “R & L Carroll”
Jenni, I think you are right about the damage to your quilted piece being
caused by use. Since you have eliminated the obvious causes of damage
thread etc.) then all it could be is the fabric itself.
If the stitching size were the cause I would think that the back would be
damaged also. If the back is still intact then I think that the fabric
panel just did not hold up well. Thanks for this interesting thread. We all
want our quilts and quilted articles to last as long as possible, since we
put so much time into them.
Laurette in So. California
Date Wed, 10 Mar 1999 204314 -0800
From “R & L Carroll”
To “QHL”
Deb, thanks for that interesting note on Orvus. Maybe some one on the list
with a chemical background could explain how soap differs from detergents.
It would be helpful to know .
This has probably been covered on the list before, but not since I have been
on.
I would also like to know more about Mountain Mist Ensure. They call it a
quilt wash.
Laurette in So California
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 075321 EST
From Harr32aol.com
I apologize for the misnomer, but it sounded so good……
Yesterday I drove three hours to meet my mother and sister for a Rod Stewart
concert.
I broke up my drive by stopping at an antique mall. Since I really had no
money to spend I had a quilt that would NOT stop calling to me! I spent my t-
shirt money ( and a little bit more) on a 1860-1880 quilt. It has an unusal
pieced center (I’ll look at it better today!) with gone brown pieces.
Wonderful hand quilting with elaborate designs, and a little damage to the
red/yellow back. I paid $62 and now I want to find fabric to replace the
browns enough to gently display it. I bet I was the only person at the
concert who had a quilt for a concert souvenier!
Dana
In cloudy, cold VA
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 075722 EST
From JQuiltaol.com
The Hands Across the Valley Quilt Guild will have it’s bi-annual quilt show at
Amherst College in Amherst Mass.. the weekend of Mar 20-21
It’s a great show try to visit..
jean
jquiltaol.com
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 071027 -0600
From Laura Hobby Syler
Hi Nancy,
Actually, I guess I started my idea of a fabric dating book after watching
Barbara Brackman and Terri Thompson unload box after box and swatch card
after swatch card at one of their fabric camps….My tubs of vintage
fabrics and blocks needed to be organized too!
Soooooooo…………..
At the first VQTS Quilt College last fall we did a 1 1/2 day seminar on
fabric dating and developing a fabric dating book….tools, supplies, etc.
Karen Erlandson wrote a great article for the newsletter for those VQTS
members who were unable to attend. Gives information on what kinds of
protective sleeves to use, acid free papers…..plus those at the seminar
got to see my books that I’ve been working on for 2 years now…figured
that I cant own all the quilts with these wonderful fabrics in them so I
collect orphaned blocks and fabrics….I’ve reorganized mine several times
now. Started out with quarter centuries but then realized that it was not
really as effective as I would like, so I now just go
chronologically…..notes from other fabric dating classes and seminars can
be added and price and dating information for each piece that I purchase
(or find) is kept with the swatch of fabric. I also have my “early 20th
century ” book as well as one of current swatches…..the fabric swatch
clubs are great for this….Benartex’s Mr B’s Fabric Pack Club for
one….great 3″ swatches of the new lines, and there are several other
places that offer swatch services.
As always….If you’d like a copy of the newsletter with the fabric
dating book article and membership information send me your snail address
and I’ll pop one in the mail for you.
Laura
In stormy N. Texas
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When I went
through my fabric swatches to send along to Sharon, I realized, more
than anything, I need to organize my collection of swatches, yardage,
scraps, etc. Laura, could you briefly describe Sharon’s fabric dating
book–is it archival with special paper, dividers? Does she jot notes
with each piece noting location found, approx. date, etc? Wow, this
could be a project! Just wondering if you could describe what Sharon
found to be the best way to organize these treasures.
>
Nancy Hahn, Annapolis , Maryland–enjoying this late season snowstorm
as the snow day off from school gives me additional time to play with my
fabrics.
>
>
>
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 130619 EST
From JQuiltaol.com
To qhlcuenet.com, vsayrenesa.com
I forgot to mention in my announcement about the Amherst Quilt Show…the
hours are sat & sun Mar.20-21….there will be about 28 vendors and a quilt
appraiser call 413 323 4741 for an appraisal appointment….lots of wonderful
quilts, clothes and boutique items…One of the vendors will be our very own
QHL mom Kris…
jean
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 140302 -0500
From “J. G. Row”
Someone from Quiltbee wrote a letter to Sakura about Pigma pens and got a
satisfactory answer about Pigma pens, which she posted to the list. It
didn’t answer my question about the Gelly Roll pens, so I wrote a followup
letter
to Sakura. Within 2 hours I got my reply.
My letter, and then both replies are printed below
I don’t know about you, but after reading the answers to my queries, I feel
perfectly secure using the Sakura products to write on quilts.
Dear Cheryl,
>
I read a letter on the QuiltBee list that you sent to Terri Deosdade, with
assurances that your Pigma inks were safe to use for archival writing.
>
Nowhere did you mention anything about the inks in your Gelly Roll pens.
Months
ago it was the inks in those pens, not the Pigma pens, which we were warned
about. The original warning said something about a chemical that was part
of the formula to make the ink glide so wonderfully well that was the
culprit that would eventually degrade the fabric.
>
I am very interesed in your answer to this dilemma. I have already used
the
Gelly Roll pens for a wedding signature quilt.
>
Sincerely
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrowblast.net
>
Hi Judy
This appears to be the rumor (perhaps started by one of our competitors)
that shall not die! Sort of like alligators in the sewers of
New York!
Pigma ink is in the Gelly Rolls as well as the Microns. So, please
refer to the following (below). Finally, due to the wide
variation in fabrics, fabric finishes and cleaning methods, we strongly
recommend you try ANY pen or marker (ours or our competitors’
on a small swatch of the fabric(s) you will be using, allow it to dry
completely, then clean the swatches as you will the finished piece.
Given the hours and hours of time that go into those beautiful quilts,
this should be a basic precaution for all quilters.
By the way, there is no “chemical” added to make the inks glide. A big
reason our pens glide better is because the tiny little ball in
the tip is itself smoother than our competitor’s. This superior
engineering enhances the “delivery” of the gel ink. Obviously, the
smoother
the fabric or paper, the more this will be evident.
Best regards,
Cheryl R Kettell
Sakura of America
Archival or Acid Free?
Over time, we have received many inquiries about the nature of the
Pigma* ink in Sakura pens. We will try to cover the most common
questions (so that you can get back to journaling, scrapbooking,
quilting and crafting!) —
1.) Pigma* ink is the brand name of the pigmented ink used in Sakura
products. The formula for Pigma* ink was developed specifically for
museum archivists and conservators after extensive research and testing.
2.) You will notice that the Sakura memory products are labeled as
“archival.”
“Archival” means that these products are permanent, durable and
chemically stable. They can, therefore, be safely used for memory
preservation purposes. This is a non-technical term, since there are no
industry standards for how long “archival” or “archivally sound”
materials must last. Sakura uses this term to describe the high overall
quality of our Pigma ink products along with the qualities described
below.
3.) Acid-Free is a deceptive term used in connection with many
products in the memory market. This is also mistakenly used as a
synonym for alkaline or buffered. Do not be fooled by pens or writing
materials labeled “acid free” because this does not guarantee that a
product is truly suitable for memory projects. There are no industry
standards applicable for ensuring that a product is, indeed, acid-free.
4.) Chemical stability refers to the ability to resist chemical
degradation. Sakura uses a single pigment to color its inks, to enhance
their chemical stability, and to eliminate the possibility of pigment
separation due to age or exposure to outside elements. This is not the
case with many non-Pigma inks!
5.) Light fastness refers to the ability to retain color over time
and/or when exposed to light, heat, or other adverse conditions. Sakura
Pigma inks are light fast due to the high quality pigments that compose
them.
6.) Neutral pH refers to a material with a pH of 7, that is, one
that is neither acid nor alkaline. Sakura’s Pigma inks dry to a neutral
pH and, therefore, will not adversely effect the materials on which they
are applied. (If you are using any product on fabric — it is always
wise to first test it on a swatch of your fabric, let it dry and then
launder as you would the finished piece. This test is necessary due to
the extremely wide variety of fabrics available today.)
7.) Permanent/permanence refers to the ability of a substance to resist
change over long periods of time without significant deterioration under
normal use and storage conditions. Permanence may be effected by
temperature, humidity, light, and acidic or alkaline chemicals. Sakura
Pigma inks are permanent, waterproof, chemical resistant and
temperature-resistant on paper and on many fabrics.
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 090619 -0800
From “R & L Carroll”
To “QHL”
Hello.
Laura your fabric dating book sounds similar to mine. What method do you
use to hold the swatches themselves? Are your plastic sleeves divided as
the baseball card holders are? I use a tiny dab of removable archival glue
to hold my swatches on acid free paper in the archival sleeve.
Do you take orphaned blocks apart to display swatches in the book? I have
not done that but I am considering it as I’m unhappy with the way the blocks
look in the book.
Thanks.
Laurette in So. California
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 165244 +0000
From shirleybklis.com
To russhillctesc.net
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 190410 EST
From SudaNimaol.com
You know, when I go to pick up the books people have asked for, I should quit
looking around. There was ONE copy of the 1963 Rose Wilder Lane
book, Woman’s Day Book of American Needlework WITH the box of patterns
(unused). $13 for the set. Grab ’em!
(She was Laura Ingalls Wilder’s daughter, by the way. The book covers
embroidery, hooked rugs, patchwork, quilting, knitting, crochet, etc etc etc.
I don’t know how accurate her history is in this book, but the pictures are
gorgeous. My mom knit two of the bedspreads in the book; took her 10 years for
each. I have very fond childhood memories of looking through this book.)
Date Thu, 11 Mar 1999 205056 EST
From EGinebaughaol.com
To QHLcuenet.com
Hi all,
I was talking to an AOL tech yesterday, and got onto the subject of quilts.
This guy has three quilts made by his GM & GGM. I, of course asked about
them, & he told me one was in the hosanna pattern, which was similar to the
Eye of God. I had never heard of these before. Can anyone tell me anything
about what they look like?
Also, he gave me a web address for The Queen’s Christmas tree this past year,
all decorated by people who are needlework artisans in England. Beautiful
ornaments. Let me know if anyone is interested.
Thanks,
Liz in Michigan
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:27:25 -0800
From: Nancy Cameron Armstrong <narmstr@ibm.net
Dear friends,
Have two patterns from apparently seven issues of STITCH ‘N SEW that had
a “complete set of seven designs” that were intended for embroidery.
July/August 1976 … No. 1 “Strawberry Girl”
October 1977 … No. 5 “Pea Girl”
Not just sure what months they published. Appears that No. 2 might have
been in October 1976 issue. No. 3 … sometime in “winter” and No. 4
might have been in July/August 1977 with the other two following end of
1977 and first of 1978.
Does anyone have the other five issues? Would greatly appreciate
photocopies of just the five missing patterns. Thanks for any help with
this!
nca
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:51:51 EST
From: SudaNim@aol.com
I love the internet. The Soap and Detergent Association has a few pages on the
chemistry of, yes, soaps & detergents.
Soaps are fragments of fats, broken up so that one end is electrically charged
(and hence attracted to water), and the other end is a long, greasy
hydrocarbon chain (attracted to grease & dirt). The lipophilic ends (hey, I
have to show off my chemistry degree once in a while) surround the gunk, while
the hydrophilic ends deal with the water. What you get is a sort of soap
dandelion with the dirt in the center.
Detergents contain both soap and “surfactants” — fragments of petroleum that
are joined with a charged fragment. So the surfactants are sort of like soap,
in that they have a greasy end and a charged end, but they’re made up of
different sort of chemicals. The association states that different surfactants
are designed to work in a range of water hardness & pHs.
I’m not going to get into their discussion of nonionic surfactants, except to
say that they’re not charged at one end; they’re a form of alcohol joined to a
hydrocarbon. (Alcohols, like water, have no charge, but also like water,
they’ve got slightly more positive & negatively-charged regions on the
molecule).
There’s no discussion on why detergents and soaps affect different textiles
differently. My guess is that we’re tending to operate on “simpler is better”
with Orvus etc.
The site is http://sdahq.org/sdalatest/html/soapchemistry1.htm (and second
page is soapchemistry2.htm
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:02:49 EST
From: @aol.com
To: qhl@cuenet.com
This was forwarded to me by a medievalist I know –
<< In the recent issue of “Archaeological Textiles Newsletter,” (ATN 27, Autumn
1998, 12-14) Penelope Walton Rogers writes about “Cotton in a Merovingian
Burial in Germany.” She points out that cotton rarely enters the picture
for European textile researchers and when it does, it usually can be dismissed
as a modern contaminant. However, in this case, the identification of cotton
comes from a secure context in a Merovingian burial dated to the end of the
5th century, so it is therefore of rather exceptional interest.
The cotton is a Z-spun thread which was used to quilt some sort of garment
or cover which was made from a wool diamond twill with a padded backing.
This textile was found over the whole length of a woman’s body in a coffin burial
in the Merovingian cemetery at Lauchheim/Ostalbkreis in Baden-Wuerttemberg.
She concludes that the presence of this cotton thread suggests some far-
reaching link with the eastern Mediterranean or western Asia. It is at
present unknown whether the textile arrived in Germany already quilted with
the cotton thread or whether the thread arrived in Germany on its own and
was then used to quilt the textile. It is also unknown whether it was
unpicked from another textile, but further research should answer these questions.
>
Karen Evans
Easthampton, MA
Hello to the list.
In the recent issue of “Archaeological Textiles Newsletter,” (ATN 27, Autu=
mn
1998, 12-14) Penelope Walton Rogers writes about “Cotton in a Merovingian
Burial in Germany.” She points out that cotton rarely enters the picture
for
European textile researchers and when it does, it usually can be dismissed
as
a modern contaminant. However, in this case, the identification of cotton
comes from a secure context in a Merovingian burial dated to the end of th=
e
5th century, so it is therefore of rather exceptional interest.
The cotton is a Z-spun thread which was used to quilt some sort of garment
or
cover which was made from a wool diamond twill with a padded backing. Thi=
s
textile was found over the whole length of a woman’s body in a coffin buri=
al
in the Merovingian cemetery at Lauchheim/Ostalbkreis in Baden-Wuerttemberg=
.
She concludes that the presence of this cotton thread suggests some far-
reaching link with the eastern Mediterranean or western Asia. It is at
present unknown whether the textile arrived in Germany already quilted wit=
h
the cotton thread or whether the thread arrived in Germany on its own and
was
then used to quilt the textile. It is also unknown whether it was unpicke=
d
from another textile, but further research should answer these questions.
Greetings!
Ingvild/Nancy
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:06:27 EST
From: SudaNim@aol.com
…the previous harangue didn’t mention all the other stuff that’s in most
detergents: bleaches, brighteners, fragrances, etc.
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:20:06 -0800
From: Audrey Waite <awquiltr@sedona.net
A special request to anyone attending the “Common Threads: Creating A
Cloth For Empowerment” symposium in Washington, D.C. on March 19-20,
please make a note to welcome the Hopi quilters, Marlene Sekaquaptewa
and Karen Tootsie. They are a little shy when off the reservation and
around people they don’t know. I had lunch with them today and they are
excited about going and busy getting their quilts ready. Hope you all
have a wonderful time there. Wish I could attend too!
Audrey Waite
Sedona, AZ
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:05:31 -0500
From: “susanlk” susanlk@erols.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
From: “J. G. Row” <Judygrow@blast.net
Last, summer, after visiting Texas and spending a wonderful day with Laura
(we had instant bonding — both of us drive ancient Suburbans, and we both
keep pins stuck in the upholstery of the passenger side door — in patterns)
I started my swatch book after seeing one of Laura’s.
I’m up to three books now, and I’ve been fortunate in that I actually was
able to buy a JC Penney swatch book from 1938. I also include color
xeroxes of swatches that a friend (Jan Drechsler) and I share. Most of my
swatches are in full page sheets for the larger swatches. I sew these
swatches to card stock with a long machine stitch.
I also have photo album sheets with 3 x 5 openings, and baseball card
sheets. I have found slide sheets to be good for the 1 1/2″ swatches that
Keepsake Quilting sends out . I used ATG tape to mount them when I first
started, but stopped that fairly early. I really like using the sewing
machine.
I’ve been cutting swatches from my own contemporary stash, making sure to
get the entire signature from the selvedge edge, if there is one. That
means that some of the swatches are at least 8 1/2″ long.
Laura, we need more input from you, the swatch-book authority. Like, what
address do we write to for the Benartex swatches? And others? Do you buy
from the addresses that advertise in the back of QNM ? There wasn’t nearly
enough information for those of us greedy for more knowledge in the VQTS
newsletter. It merely whetted the appetite of those of us who couldn’t get
to the meeting.
As my DH says every time he sees me working on my books “Kids always love to
work on scrapbooks.”
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:31:34 -0500
From: Alan Kelchner quiltfix@mail.jax.bellsouth.net
To: qhl@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: stuff-n-such
Message-ID: 36E90925.216DFEA0@mail.jax.bellsouth.net
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The Hosanna pattern that I’m familar with resembles a stylized palm leaf
laid diagonally on the block (it’s pieced triangles). The God’s Eye I
know doesn’t look like the Hosanna block I know. God’s Eyes are made by
tons of kids in schools and homes – cross two sticks, take some yarn and
wrap it once around one end, run it to the next end, etc. Change colors
as desired. You end up with a yarn “kite”.
But seeing as there are so many names for patterns, well, who knows?
Next !
Now for my stuff – I got my quilt from ebay last week. Gave me the start
of my life, I tell you. I got home, and there was this box (12x8x10) on
the table. My heart dropped because I was certain I had bought a quilt,
and no quilt could fit in there. Wrong. The thing is thin ! But it’s
exactly what I thought it was. White and yellow, sawtoothed squares in a
strippy set, the short sashes are yellow and have triangles that make
the blocks feel connected. Great quilt. The yellow has a tiny black and
red print, and the printing makes the yellow feel chartreuse ! Weird.
Has anyone heard of a thread manufacturer called Dewhurst’s ? I was in
an antique shop and found this pincushion, looks like an advertising
item. It’s round with a flat top/bottom, and the top/bottom look like
the label off a thread spool. The full wording is “Dewhurst’s Sylko
Three Shells Machine Twist 40″. I’ve never heard of the company, but I
bought it anyway.
Alan
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:58:15 -0500
From: Th Schott Family <fschott@ix.netcom.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:52:38 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Hi all,
One of the first books we reviewed in the VQTS newsletter 2 years ago was
this book…..it is really a great resource book. It explains how fabric is
woven, how thread is spun, how batting is made. I think that anyone
interested in textiles and particularaly quilting needs a copy of this
book in their library…….
No affiliation to Harriet, and all that stuff…….I just think that this
book is a must for your reference library!
Laura
In once again stormy N. Texas
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:57:47 -0800
From: Debra Roby debroby@earthlink.net
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Re: QHL-Digest Digest V99 #70
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Deb, thanks for that interesting note on Orvus. Maybe some one on the list
with a chemical background could explain how soap differs from detergents.
It would be helpful to know .
Your welcome, and part of your wish is fulfilled. From the same chemist
husband comes:
English majors are so cute when they try to discuss technical
issues…..(BTW, I’m the English major. He have this discussion ALL the
time!)
First, a soap is usually a carboxylic acid based material. In the old
days,
these are derived from natural animal fats by “rendering” with lye.
Detergents are usually based on sulfonates, a sulfur based acid. These
detergents can be made from naturally occurring alcohols (see below) or
petroleum fractions.
from the Merck Index, Tenth Edition, page 8479: (I’ve translated some
of
the chemist-speak into English)
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. Dodecyl sodium sulfate; Irium. C12H25NaO4S;
molecular weight 288.38.
C 49.98%, H 8.74%, Na 7.9%, O 22.19%, S 11.12%. CH3(CH2)10CH2SO3Na.
Prepared by sulfation of lauryl alcohol, followed by neutralization with
sodium carbonate. The article of commerce is a mixture of analogous
sodium
alkyl sulfates with sodium lauryl sulfate predominating. (Translation:
manufacturers start with a mixture of alcohols, not pure lauryl alcohol.
This is much cheaper. The resulting product is, naturally, a mixture of
sulfates.)
White or cream-colored crystals, flakes, or powder. Faint odor of fatty
substances. Smooth feel. Neutral reaction. One gram dissolves in 10
ml
water, giving an opalescent solution. Lowers the surface tension of
aqueous
solutions. Emulsifies fats.
Use: Wetting agent, detergent, especially in the textile industry. Can
be
used in hard water. Ingredient of toothpastes.
If all else fails, use the Library. You will find a Merck Index there.
Merck probably has a website, too, as do most chemical manufacturers.
I am back again. He explained (more simply to me), that soaps are based
on a carbon acid, and detergents are based on a sulphur acid, so the
important thing to note is the end of the chemical name… if it begins
with carbo- then it’s a soap; if it begins with sulph- then it’s a
detergent.
Is this just more than most people wish to know?
deb
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:58:53 -0600
From: Laura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
OK, while I sort through all my notes on swatch services…..may I have
your input.
I would like for you to send me the names and addresses of the swatch
services that you are aware of…….I’ll compile a total list and post it
next week. I know that Karen and I get swatches from Vintage & Vogue as
well as Benartex and others, but we may have missed one or two .
Please email me privately at this address or VQTS’s official address:
vqts1@airmail.net and I’ll compile the list and get it sent back out as
well as posting it in the next VQTS newsletter. I think Karen already has
March ready to go to the printer (we print at the end of the month –
recapping) so it will probably appear in the April issue.
TIA………
Laura
Laura, we need more input from you, the swatch-book authority. Like, what
address do we write to for the Benartex swatches? And others? Do you buy
from the addresses that advertise in the back of QNM ? There wasn’t nearly
enough information for those of us greedy for more knowledge in the VQTS
newsletter. It merely whetted the appetite of those of us who couldn’t get
to the meeting.
>
>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:26:34 EST
From: EGinebaugh@aol.com
To: qhl@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Paducah!
Message-ID: e7a0213f.36e9322a@aol.com
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Hi again,
On another list that I’m on, we were talking about the quilt on the cover of
QNM for April, and that it will be at the AQS show. Since one thought leads
to another, I remembered what a great time we had at dinner last year. Do we
want to get together again? Joanna, are you willing to gather names for this
year? If I am being too forward and assuming, let me know. (But gently,
please, I’ve already had a hard morning. ) I hope we can get together
somehow.
Thanks much,
Liz in Michigan
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:35:10 -0800
From: “pepper cory” pepcory@bmd.clis.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
From:
To: Liz and QHL@cuenet.com
It occurred to me after reading your post that Hosanna and God’s Eye
might
be the same. If the Hosanna pattern (traditionally green and white to
represent the palms on Palm Sunday-) was rearranged and if it was pieced
in
darks and brights radiating out from the center, it would resemble the
God’s Eye motif (the string art creations Alan referred to-). Maybe
someone
saw the possibilities of the Hosanna re-arranged and re-named it. God’s
Eyes were big in the late 60’s and 1970’s along with string art and
macramé.
Pepper Cory
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:48:38 -0800
From: “R & L Carroll” Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net
To: “QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Soaps and detergents
Hello.
Thanks for the posts on the differences between soaps and detergents. Now
if all the manufacturers would label their products with all of the
ingredients, we would be able to make informed choices.
Laurette, in So California
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:55:29 EST
From: QuiltFixer@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Subject: QHL: Old American Thread Company Box
Message-ID: 10c231bd.36e94701@aol.com
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I just purchased an old display box made for Embroidery Floss. Has American
Thread Company. Silkine Art Thread. on the outside. Has sections for floss
to lay in and a glass top. Box is made of heavy cardboard. Really
interesting. Would love to date it, but don’t know where to start. Must have
been used in a store to keep floss separated and display for sale. Anyone
have information to help on this? Toni QuiltFixer@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:09:44 EST
From: QLTKAREN@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
Sometimes I could kick myself for not bringing a note book to lectures. A
couple of years ago I was at a lecture where the speaker was discussing her
collection of antique quilts. She had slides. One quilt (1800’s) really
interested her because in studying the quilting she found the shape of a pair
of scissors quilted into the pattern. She mentioned that it was believed this
was some sort of curse or bad wishes to the person that would sleep under it.
I was wondering if any of you had heard of this before or if this type of
thing in documented in any books. I saw the slide and they were very clearly
scissors. I would appreciate any help!
Karen Osborne
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:52:34 -0800
From: “pepper cory” <pepcory@bmd.clis.com
I have seen the outline of scissors quilted in several quilts and own a
crazy quilt which has a life-size scissors embroidered in a corner next to
a pair of glasses and the outline of a hand. I think the scissors are
symbolic as tools of their maker and far from bad luck symbols are personal
marks of the quilter herself. I have also quilted scissors on one of my
quilts, thus carrying on the tradition. The last quilt I saw scissors on
was a c.1900 Irish Chain from PA. Next to the scissors was the outline of a
large hand and a little hand. Across the large hand was written in pencil,
and still visible, “Grandma’s Hand.”
But I have heard of scissors (or a knife-) being placed under the bed when
a woman was giving birth. The symbolism there was to “cut” the pain and
maybe have the tools ready when the baby’s umbilical cord needed to be cut.
Is this for your “Myths of Quilting” lecture, Karen? Sounds interesting.
Pepper Cory
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:02:04 +0400
From: Xenia Cord xecord@netusa1.net
To: QHL@cuenet.com
CC: QLTKAREN@aol.com
Subject: QHL: Scissors/luck
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I taught folklore at Indiana University for nearly 25 years, and in all
my reading don’t remember any such bad wishes associated with scissors.
The closest thing I can recall is that some poeple believed that placing
sharp objects UNDER the bed of a woman in labor would “cut” the pain. A
related idea was that a sharp object in a witch’s path would “cut” her
power.
Sometime in January or early February, there was a red and green
applique, mid-19th century, on E-bay that had red open scissors
appliqued all around the border, blade tips and loop handles touching or
nearly touching. They were obviously visible and could hardly have been
a symbol for some evil intent!
Xenia, in Indiana
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:16:54 EST
From: QuiltFixer@aol.com
To: QHL@cuenet.com
I have a vintage Redwork Quilt in my collection that is a signature quilt
(also known as an autograph quilt). It has many objects like calling cards,
baskets, etc., with signature inside them. Among the many things is the
outline of a large scissors with two signatures on the blades. I know that I
have seen a scissors on some other quilt and maybe I can remember some time
soon where that was. 🙂 Toni B.
QuiltFixer@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:51:58 +0000
From: Bobbie Aug qwltpro@uswest.net
To: QLTKAREN@aol.com
Karen,
I’ve appraised several quilts – probably 6 or 7 over the last 20 years that had
scissors quilted in the quilt. I know they were all small embroidery scissors and
one was “stork” scissors. I do recall that at least one quilt that had scissors
(these were all 1 pair per quilt) was a family quilt and it had never left the
family. It was felt that these scissors always laid on top of the quilt while in
the frame and while the quilter was quilting and she just decided to quilt or
probably draw around them and quilt that motif into the quilt. I knew the owner
personally, of this one family quilt and I don’t think there would have been a
vengeful person in her family of relatives. Just a guess.
Bobbie A. Aug
QLTKAREN@aol.com wrote:
Sometimes I could kick myself for not bringing a note book to lectures. A
couple of years ago I was at a lecture where the speaker was discussing her
collection of antique quilts. She had slides. One quilt (1800’s) really
interested her because in studying the quilting she found the shape of a pair
of scissors quilted into the pattern. She mentioned that it was believed this
was some sort of curse or bad wishes to the person that would sleep under it.
I was wondering if any of you had heard of this before or if this type of
thing in documented in any books. I saw the slide and they were very clearly
scissors. I would appreciate any help!
Karen Osborne
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:03:16 EST
From: JBQUILTOK@aol.com
To: QLTKAREN@aol.com,
I haven’t heard of scissors being a curse, but you should never give a knife
as a gift – it will cut the friendship. And if you receive one, you should
give the donor a dime. That way, you bought it & the friendship will remain
unscathed. Maybe scissors were considered an extention of that ‘logic’ in
some area of the country.
Janet
ateFri, 12 Mar 1999 201636 -0800
FromAudrey Waite <awquiltr@sedona.net>
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I took Latin instead of science so all this chemistry is way over my
head. But I recently noticed that where I had placed the laundry
detergent bottle on the dryer, the container removed the shine in the
enamel. Pretty powerful stuff. Was wondering if anyone else has had
this happen??
Audrey
awquiltr@sedona.net
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DateFri, 12 Mar 99 234521 EST
From”Bob Mills” <decision@tigger.jvnc.net>
I washed a turn of the century quilt which was somewhat crisp and thought it
would come out softer. It didn’t so I wondered if I removed all the Orvus
in my 5-6 rinses. I have hard water and finished the rinse with 3 gallons
of distilled water since my house isn’t equipped with de-ionized water.
(Who designed these suburban homes, anyway?)
Then I wondered about hard water and perhaps Calgon in the final rinse would
help soften the top. I read the label and the list of salts and decided to
try it in rinse water, even tho’ it sounded nasty.
My questions
If I know I have hard water, should I add Calgon or another water
softener to the Orvus wash and also rinse?
Is it helpful and safe to rinse in distilled water, sinse I know my water
is heavily chlorinated and comes from the Raritan Canal, NJ, a yucky brownhttps://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?guci=2.2.0.0.2.2.0.0&client=ca-pub-7894829842659178&output=html&h=280&adk=2723956906&adf=2848408690&pi=t.aa~a.3844871378~i.53~rp.4&w=1200&fwrn=4&fwrnh=100&lmt=1312160324&num_ads=1&rafmt=1&armr=3&sem=mc&pwprc=1795321837&psa=1&channel=2890770851&ad_type=text_image&format=1200×280&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F99072.htm&flash=0&fwr=0&pra=3&rh=200&rw=1719&rpe=1&resp_fmts=3&wgl=1&fa=27&adsid=ChEIgIWU_QUQwte748CO7KupARJMAHX9LxJwkQDyoTD3ocdaPYQf8sgMbs9w5_Afb3aQlOGzvSJo-QKpFIQO-r-Kj29Np2RPdO5FHoGsFlejv0nLyaHAdvkdFdqaXMPCDA&tt_state=W3siaXNzdWVyT3JpZ2luIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9hZHNlcnZpY2UuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbSIsInN0YXRlIjowfSx7Imlzc3Vlck9yaWdpbiI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXR0ZXN0YXRpb24uYW5kcm9pZC5jb20iLCJzdGF0ZSI6MH1d&dt=1604703578708&bpp=6&bdt=2839&idt=7&shv=r20201104&cbv=r20190131&ptt=9&saldr=aa&abxe=1&cookie=ID%3D6f9084c9ff075121-2200a37b35c400e9%3AT%3D1603202495%3ART%3D1603202495%3AS%3DALNI_MbgWhA9zHCrqqyMVOiGHmJY9dFZkA&prev_fmts=160x600_as%2C0x0&nras=2&correlator=4487990199008&pv_ch=2890770851%2B&frm=20&pv=1&ga_vid=1283543617.1603202497&ga_sid=1604703576&ga_hid=32025174&ga_fc=0&iag=0&icsg=8842&dssz=9&mdo=0&mso=0&u_tz=-300&u_his=1&u_java=0&u_h=1080&u_w=1920&u_ah=1040&u_aw=1920&u_cd=24&u_nplug=1&u_nmime=2&adx=444&ady=1128&biw=1903&bih=937&scr_x=0&scr_y=0&eid=21067466%2C21068083&oid=3&psts=AGkb-H-TPEKKSr3TBRrIjTjov0GviiMtBcCXOFxY135R8mD0yN-fmR4QzQ&pvsid=4228801167074122&pem=49&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F1999.htm&rx=0&eae=0&fc=1408&brdim=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C937&vis=1&rsz=%7C%7Cs%7C&abl=NS&alvm=r20201103&fu=8320&bc=23&jar=2020-11-06-21&ifi=2&uci=a!2&btvi=1&fsb=1&xpc=dIPWzVi3x0&p=http%3A//quilthistory.com&dtd=M
water but with great parkland and canal paths for walking?
Comments from the conservators and chemists and pros?
Jan Drechsler (not Bob)
http//ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bobmills/jan.html
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DateFri, 12 Mar 1999 233920 EST
FromEGinebaugh@aol.com
Toqhl@cuenet.com
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the different star bases. My eyes are crossing! I’ve been at this for a
couple of hours, now! ARRRRGGGHHH! This is way too much fun! I’ll never
finish the quilts I have started.
If I find something good, and it’s a slightly different star base, and I
squash a different block or blocks other than a pineapple on the quilt, and I
color it different, and I give credit for the inspiration where credit is due,
will I have a problem with copyright stuff, or am I free & clear? Boy, I’m
not sure I can even follow that. And I wrote it! <VBG>
Thanks, Patti, for the kickstart. )
Liz in Michigan
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DateSat, 13 Mar 1999 102045 -0500
FromJody Bordner <qltgrose@home.com>
ToEGinebaugh@aol.com
CCQHL@cuenet.com
> I, of course asked about them, & he told me one was in the hosanna pattern,
> which was similar to the Eye of God. I had never heard of these before. Canhttps://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?guci=2.2.0.0.2.2.0.0&client=ca-pub-7894829842659178&output=html&h=280&adk=2723956906&adf=1037174341&pi=t.aa~a.3844871378~i.111~rp.4&w=1200&fwrn=4&fwrnh=100&lmt=1312160324&num_ads=1&rafmt=1&armr=3&sem=mc&pwprc=1795321837&psa=1&channel=2890770851&ad_type=text_image&format=1200×280&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F99072.htm&flash=0&fwr=0&pra=3&rh=200&rw=1719&rpe=1&resp_fmts=3&wgl=1&fa=27&adsid=ChEIgIWU_QUQwte748CO7KupARJMAHX9LxJwkQDyoTD3ocdaPYQf8sgMbs9w5_Afb3aQlOGzvSJo-QKpFIQO-r-Kj29Np2RPdO5FHoGsFlejv0nLyaHAdvkdFdqaXMPCDA&tt_state=W3siaXNzdWVyT3JpZ2luIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9hZHNlcnZpY2UuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbSIsInN0YXRlIjowfSx7Imlzc3Vlck9yaWdpbiI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXR0ZXN0YXRpb24uYW5kcm9pZC5jb20iLCJzdGF0ZSI6MH1d&dt=1604703578744&bpp=2&bdt=2874&idt=3&shv=r20201104&cbv=r20190131&ptt=9&saldr=aa&abxe=1&cookie=ID%3D6f9084c9ff075121-2200a37b35c400e9%3AT%3D1603202495%3ART%3D1603202495%3AS%3DALNI_MbgWhA9zHCrqqyMVOiGHmJY9dFZkA&prev_fmts=160x600_as%2C0x0%2C1200x280%2C1200x280%2C1200x280&nras=5&correlator=4487990199008&pv_ch=2890770851%2B&frm=20&pv=1&ga_vid=1283543617.1603202497&ga_sid=1604703576&ga_hid=32025174&ga_fc=0&iag=0&icsg=41610&dssz=10&mdo=0&mso=0&u_tz=-300&u_his=1&u_java=0&u_h=1080&u_w=1920&u_ah=1040&u_aw=1920&u_cd=24&u_nplug=1&u_nmime=2&adx=444&ady=3031&biw=1903&bih=937&scr_x=0&scr_y=0&eid=21067466%2C21068083&oid=3&psts=AGkb-H-TPEKKSr3TBRrIjTjov0GviiMtBcCXOFxY135R8mD0yN-fmR4QzQ&pvsid=4228801167074122&pem=49&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F1999.htm&rx=0&eae=0&fc=1408&brdim=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C937&vis=1&rsz=%7C%7Cs%7C&abl=NS&alvm=r20201103&fu=8320&bc=23&jar=2020-11-06-21&ifi=5&uci=a!5&btvi=4&fsb=1&xpc=B9oHYMqOmo&p=http%3A//quilthistory.com&dtd=M
> anyone tell me anything about what they look like?
Hi Liz,
This website and/or its owner, may be able to help you with Bible inspired
blocks
http//www.mountain-inter.net/~graham/index.html
Good Luck
Jody
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DateSat, 13 Mar 1999 111845 -0500
FromJody Bordner <qltgrose@home.com>
>
> One of the first books we reviewed in the VQTS newsletter 2 years ago was
> this book…..it is really a great resource book.
Hi all,
I agree with Laura on this one! Harriet has a degree in textiles and it shows
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quote her From Fabric to Fibre book, pg 67, “Neither soaps nor detergents
themselves adversely affect textile fibers. They can, however, adversely affect
finishes and cause certain dyes to run.” She goes on to say…”A general
guideline for choosing a detergent is to look for a product with the least
amount of ingredients. The more ingredients, the harsher the products tend to
be….. A product that is now gettting a lot of attention from quiltmakers is
sodium lauryl sulfate, also known as Orvus Paste. This is a synthetic detergent
designed to duplicate the soapmaking ingredient in coconut oil–lauric acid. As
a synthetic, it eliminates the tendency of coconut oil-based soaps to form a
curd, and it retains its cleaning power, even in the processed, acid-type water
found in many of today’s citites. Its relatively high viscosity also helps it
to handle greasy soil. This product leaves both dyed colors and the “hand” of
the fabric unchanged. It has a neutral PH and is especially safe with the
fiber-reactive dyes used in many of our cotton fabrics and threads.”
I took a class from her several years ago and she really impressed me then on
machine quilting, when this book came out and I read it, I was really glad I
had spent the money to buy it.
Jody
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DateSat, 13 Mar 1999 122312 -0400
FromBarbara Robson <robsonbh@dbis.ns.ca>
My spool of Dewhurst thread says “Dewhusrt Sylko Three Shells Machine
Twist” and on the other side it says “Sylko made in Great Britain by
English Sewing Ltd”. it is mercerized 100% cotton.
I probably got it when we lived in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 22 years ago! Time
flies!
Hope that is helpful.
Barbara Robson
Fox Point, Nova Scotia
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 081124 -0400
FromLorraine Olsson <sven@pnc.com.au>
My first sewing experiences were with Dewhurst Sylko Threads. I think
they were the only ones available in Australia in the 1960s.
Lorraine in Oz
Barbara Robson wrote
>
> Hi Alan and QHL,
>
> My spool of Dewhurst thread says “Dewhusrt Sylko Three Shells Machine
> Twist” and on the other side it says “Sylko made in Great Britain by
> English Sewing Ltd”. it is mercerized 100% cotton.
>
> I probably got it when we lived in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 22 years ago! Time
> flies!
>
> Hope that is helpful.
>
> Barbara Robson
> Fox Point, Nova Scotia
DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 000211 EST
FromPennstudd@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
Hi All,
I just signed up for the digest and am in my 4 th month of quilting. I tie my
quilts and have been using embrod. floss, all six strands and then I recently
switched to Baroque crochet yarn which holds up ten fold better than the
embrod. floss. My question is, I purchase batting which is 48 inches wide and
10 yds long for 9.99 which is the normal price at MAE’s, what is the best way
to put the pieces together> I have used stitch witchery and machine basted
them, any other hints?
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 085823 -0000
From”Sally Ward” <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk>
To”QHL” <QHL@cuenet.com>
I have asked members of the new British Quilt List about Dewhurst =
thread – I remember it very well because it was the only thread we had! =
It seems that a lot of us are hoarding the old cotton reels from =
generations of sewers, and there was a great variety of thread content =
and weight of twist. I think there is rather too much to post direct =
to this list, but if anyone wants to see the info. I’d be happy to =
forward it .
In general terms – BQL, being the ‘only’ UK based list so far has to =
be ‘all things to all men’ and has a rather more chatty mix of posts =
than QHL, but we are collecting gradually more and more enthusiasts and =
specialists in the UK field as contributors and lurkers, and I am hoping =
to introduce more research content. If anyone has a question which they =
think might benefit from UK input, I’d be happy to forward it. (or, of =
course, you are welcome on the list yourselves. It is based at =
www.onelist.com )
Regards
Sally
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 115706 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>
Well, is there ANYONE on our list that still subscribes to QNM???
I was at the store yesterday picking up the Summer issue of QUILT Magazine,
and yes that’s me in the picture on page 12….Karen’s dear cat Rocky and
one of the triplet crazy quilts appear on page 26 opposite an article that
was originally run in the VQTS newsletter….
ANYWAY………I decided to pick up a copy of QNM and there is a 4 page
article (a lot of wasted space if you ask me!) on swatch services….only 2
that I was not aware of, and most, except the Kirk Collection are for
current fabrics…….soooooooooo…………
I’m still searching for swatch services that you may use in developing your
antique textile study/fabric dating books (even if you don’t read QNM on a
regular basis any more. I did notice that they have most of their articles
farmed out to the quilt makers…hmmmm)
Laura
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 095729 -0800
FromMarilyn Maddalena <marilyn@crl.com>
I just saw the Hosannah block pictured in QNM No. 261, April 1994, at the top of page 27. This is an article on religious quilts. It looks like three thick V’s graduating in size from large to small, with the points of the V’s pointing to the next larger V. (That’s probably not too clear, but it’s the best I can do!) I don’t have a scanner, but if anyone wants to e-mail me their fax number, I’ll copy the page and fax it to you. I’ll be out of town all next week, though — but I’ll send it to you as soon as I can. Marilyn in Sacramento
Marilyn Maddalena
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 105342 -0800
From”R & L Carroll” <Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net>
Hello!
Re joining quilt batting
You might try butting the two pieces of batt together and whipping them
together with a large needle and thread. This is the way I learned years ago
and it has always worked for me.
Laurette in So. California
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 140733 EST
FromXroadclown@aol.com
i’ve heard that if you overlap the batts slightly, and cut them together in a
sweeping motion(like a big snake) and then separate them, and then whip stitch
them, there isn’t a straight line to sew, and risk being seen.
for what it’s worth
melanie
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 142535 EST
FromSudaNim@aol.com
I’ve done the curved-line bit as well; it’s very useful not only because
there’s no straight line, but also because they fit together like a jigsaw
puzzle, so they’re very easy to keep properly aligned.
The best stitch is a sort of herringbone X. Just whipstitching allows too much
wiggle room. The X keeps the sides solidly together.
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 163205 -0500 (EST)
Fromquiltsnbears@webtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)
Laura…thanks for calling attention to the article in QUILT. I had
received the issue, but hadn’t even opened it. A nice picture of you! I
also get QNM and read it as quickly as everything else which means it
sits for a few weeks! It isn’t lack of interest, just too much
traveling! You inspired me …I finally caught up to 1999 with every
mag! It also helped that the electricity was off for hours
today….<grin>
Roberta
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DateSun, 14 Mar 1999 205256 EST
FromSadieRose@aol.com
Keepsake Quilters guild will be presenting their 3rd quilt show
“Keepsakes For All Time”
at Hawkeye Community College (Tama Hall) in Waterloo, IA.
The show will be open
Friday, March 19 from noon to 6 pm
Sat. March 20 from 9 am to 5 pm
Sun. March 21 from noon to 4 pm.
Admission is $3.50 for adults and $1 for children (no strollers, please).
There will be door prizes, quilt technique demos, a Merchant’s Mall, Raffle
quilt and Mini Quilt Silent Auction.
(Also, on a personal note, my Mom’s Dear Jane quilt will be on display )
Hope you can join us!! Karan from sunny Iowa
99077
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DateWed, 17 Mar 1999 220728 -0500
FromMary Beth Goodman <mgoodman@albany.net>
I would like to invite you all to see the quilts of “Child Abuse
Quilts – Revealing and Healing the Pain of Child Abuse”
http//members.tripod.com/mbgoodman/caq/caq1.html
The web site now includes pictures of all 28 quilts, as well as the
artist statements for each. These powerful quilts will be travelling
and are available for display during 1999 and 2000. Complete
information about this is also available at the web site.
If possible, could I ask that you spread this news to other mailing
lists that you subscribe to? It’s been announced on
rec.crafts.textiles.quilting and on quiltart. Any others would be
appreciated.
Thanks very much!
Mary Beth Goodman
Child Abuse Quilts – Revealing and Healing the Pain of Child Abuse
home mailtomgoodman@albany.net
work mailtomarybg@tripod.com
http//members.tripod.com/mbgoodman/caq/caq1.html
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DateFri, 19 Mar 1999 231452 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
It’s becoming an addiction! Stop me! Stop me!
Well, actually, folks are sending me such great swatches & FQs that I remain
highly motivated. And it’s been a lot of fun corresponding with people in the
course of the swaps.
Here’s the latest batch to show up remaindered at local used book store. Same
termsyou reimburse me for cost, tax, postage, and throw in a little
lagniappe of a historical swatch or FQ.
By the way, the store has TONS of modern how-to quilt books, plus collections
of modern quilts (eg. Visions, and Southern Quiltsa New View). I’ve just
been focusing on the historic stuff. Let me know if there are particular
titles you’re looking for.
The Quilts of the British Isles, Janet Rae, $9.98 (5 copies).
Amy Emm’s Story of Durham Quilting, Amy Emm, $5.98. (3 copies).
Autobiography of a British whole-cloth quilter (was Dame’d by Queen Elizabeth,
I think). Some of her quilted satin wedding dresses are stunning.
Quilter’s Computer Companion, Judy (illegible handwriting) and Gloria Hanson,
$14.98. (Covers both Macintosh & PC)
The Dream Quilt, Amy & Jessie Zerner (Children’s storybook), $7.98, (23
copies).
Islamic Textiles, Patricia L. Baker (forgot to note price).
The Techniques of Indian Embroidery, Anne Morrell, $4.98, (6 copies). (India-
India, not American Indian. Contains some excellent examples of Indian quilts;
very different from palampores; more folk-arty with unusual quilting designs).
Textile Design in JapanTraditional Arabesque, $7.98
Textile Design in JapanTraditional Stripes and Lattices, $14.98. Both are
by Kamon Yoshimoto, translated into English.
African Majesty, Adler & Barnard, $14.98.
Traditional African Fabrics, Christopher Spring, $5.98, (5 copies).
Caucasian Carpets and Covers, Richard Wright & John Wertime, $37.48 (3
copies). Some carpets have quilt-like repetitive patterns in fantastic color
combinations you’ve probably never seen before. I know I hadn’t.
The World of Indonesian Textiles, Warming & Gaworski, $14.98.
The Textiles of Guatemala, Regis Bertrand and Danielle Magne, $9.98 (2 copies)
Portuguese Needlework Rugs, Patricia Stone, $9.98 (I think), (5 copies).
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 080940 -0600 (CST)
FromNancy Evans nevans@nebnet.net
Hi Dee & All! This is just my own humble opinion…. and I mean no offense
to Nancy Roberts or any other editor on the list….. but at the present
time, I don’t think I personally HAVE a favorite quilting magazine….. They
are all pretty much the same, and not worth the money they charge for them.
I guess QNM, even with its present shortcomings, is the only one I’d really
subscribe to. I used to LOVE Quilting Today & Traditional Quiltworks, but
they don’t seem to hold much interest for me any more. And LCPQ before its
decline & demise was also a big favorite. I do have some back issues of
American Quilter that I traded Nancy R some fabric for, and I have enjoyed
those immensely. I should probably join the organization that prints that
magazine so I can get it, but just never seem to get around to doing it.
I’m really not out to dis any of the magazines, but, as I say, they just
don’t hold my interest any longer. I’d love to see some really “meaty”
history articles, maybe something exploring by region, or locale (and I’m
not just talking east coast here!– no flames, please!), maybe something
exploring the trends in quilting through the centuries/decades in a timeline
format, or articles that are unusual, and not seeming to have been
researched only by the writer reading other recent magazine articles. I
guess that’s what I’m getting at….all the magazines seem to be the same in
many, many ways. There are so many knowledgeable quilt historians out there,
but it seems as though articles by or about them are few and far between.
Mind you, I only get this opinion from glancing quickly through the TOC at
the newstand, because I’m not buying the magazines. I’m not interested in
buying for patterns EVER…. I can make my own quilts my own way, thank
you!…. so the “meat” is what I’m after, and the current magazines only
seem to hold the “fat”.
Again, please, no flames, I’m stating my own opinion, (Dee asked after all!)
and nothing else, so you can take it for what it’s worth or leave it. And if
you want/need to flame, please email me privately. I’m a big girl & can take
anything you throw, but I’d hate to see a war start up on the list!
Nancy Evans
Nebraska Quilter
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 102246 EST
FromAMDOODAH@aol.com
Hi from a lurker – my nomination for best all-around needlework magazine is
Piecework. It is excellent on addressing the historical issues and while it
only occasionally pertains to quilting, the editors are very open to
suggestions on content and invite new writers to submit articles. They also
publish other specialty needlework magazines and might be willing to put out a
new one on quilting if the interest exists. Joan
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 082730 -0800 (PST)
FromJackie Joy jjoy@med.unr.edu
ToNancy Evans nevans@nebnet.net
One of my favorite magazines and one to which I have subscribed for a
number of years is Piecework All This by Hand. The cover states “Craft
& History Hand in Hand; Women’s History & Needlework.” I have subscribed
for a number of years.
The March/April 1999 issue has an article entitled “Virtuous Habits of
Perseverance Quiilting and the Education of Girls in Nineteeth Century
America” and also has instructions for paper piecing a hexagon child’s
quilt. This issue also has an article on the needlework of a woman who
lived on a homestead claim in North Dakota; another entitled “Through the
Eye of the Needle The U.S. Women’s Suffrage Movement”; and one on
Candace Wheeler, a decorative arts designer during the Arts and Crafts
Movement.
While Piecework is not dedicated to quilting, I think it would be
interesting to anyone who likes needlework and women’s history. It is
published bimonthly by Interweave Press and is avilable usually at places
like Tower Records and Barnes and Noble. There is a website mentioned at
www.interweave.com.
JMHO.
Jackie Joy
Reno, Nevada
jjoy@med.unr.edu
DateSat, 20 Mar 99 140808 EST
From”Bob Mills” decision@tigger.jvnc.net
I, Jan Drechsler, with QHL as my witness, vow not to purchase or accept as a
gift, any antique quilt top which does not lay perfectly flat, with no
bulges in the middle nor ripples on the edges. Furthermore, I will purchase
no quilt bargains which need just ‘a little work’ to make them…just as
ugly as before.
In addition, no perfect antique tops shall be added to my collection until
all the others have been completed.
By this declaration, I hope to refrain from getting angry at inanimate
objects and regain my sanity…and time for creative projects, such as
making chocolate chip cookies and buying more fabric.
Solemnly,
Jan Drechsler (not Bob)
http//ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bobmills/jan.html
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 160538 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
I give her about three days, tops. How ’bout the rest of y’all?
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 172251 -0600
FromTerri Ellis tquilts@cyberramp.net
Jan and all, I swore the same oath not too long ago, but I can’t make
myself include part 2 (the good tops) in the deal! Life is too short to
spend trying to fix other people’s mistakes. Terri Ellis
DateSat, 20 Mar 99 194237 -0500
FromWoodford woodford@ix.netcom.com
Just a questionl. Is there going to be any meeting of QHL’ers at the
Paducah show. If so, I would surely like to get to know some of you, and
plan to be there.
Thanks,
Barbara Woodford
Historic American Quilts.
Woodford
woodford@ix.netcom.com
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 210602 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Lets see, it’s 900 PM here now…..she posted that at 2PM………….
Jan, we know you better than that!!!
ROTFLOL!!!
And this is after Karen and I spent all day doing appraisals at the Tyler
quilt show!
Oh my,. oh my!!!
At 0405 PM 3/20/99 EST, AlineMcK@aol.com wrote
I give her about three days, tops. How ’bout the rest of y’all?
>
>
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 211213 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Aline, I’ll be there aaalllllllll day Fri & Sat for the judges course. I
dont’ know what time they will spring us for lunch, but come by the class
room at the back of the hall and check….anyone else wanna join us?
Laura
At 0817 PM 3/20/99 EST, AlineMcK@aol.com wrote
Anyone going? Wanna get together for lunch or to scratch each others’ eyes
out over the bargain boxes?
>
>
>
DateSat, 20 Mar 1999 211458 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Barbara, et al,
Karen and I will be getting into town on Monday and I think leaving on
Friday…maybe Sat AM…..let us know if something comes together. We are
staying at a private home (reserved for antique quilt lovers….at least it
is now!) so if you want to get ahold of us I can give you the phone number.
Laura
DateSun, 21 Mar 1999 075551 EST
FromPennstudd@aol.com
Hey All,
I can honestly say that I buy all of the quilt magazines and I enjoy everyone
of them. I buy certain ones at certain stores.I will say that the ones that
have the best patterns are Quick Quilts by McCalls and Quilting. A new
magazine that recently became available is call Big Block Sampler and it has
some nice patterns. For what it is worth.
DateSun, 21 Mar 1999 081715 -0600
From”Sehoy L. Welshofer” sw4quilt@bellsouth.net
To”QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
SubjectQHLPossible articles
Good morning!
As editor of an online newsletter, Web Threads, I’m considering doing a
regular feature on quilt history (in its broadest sense). Where else to go
for a possible contributor but to the best! I read this digest daily,
and it has more honest to goodness quilt information than any list on the
web.
These articles could be any length, and the newsletter only comes out 6
times a year. Anyone interested? It goes without saying that full credit
would be given, but that would be the extent of any remuneration we can
offer. Unless you count a free hard copy of Web Threads sent to you every
time you write an article, 😉
Hoping to hear from some of you.
Sehoy Welshofer
Visit Web Threads, the Newsletter for Net Savvy Quilters at
http//www.welshofer.com/WebThreads/
DateSun, 21 Mar 1999 112017 -0500
FromNancy Roberts robertsn@norwich.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com
For Dee who asked about magazinesBecause I work for three magazines, my
thoughts on a favorite might be a bit one-sided. But I would invite you to
check out the magazines from Chitra Publications by visiting the website at
http//www.QuiltTownUSA.com/
When there, click on Chitra Publications and then click on any of the
magazines for a listing of the contents in the current issue. This may give
you the flavor of each of the magazines and help guide you when choosing a
publication that reflects your interests. There’s also a gallery and other
fun things to look at. Sample issues can be ordered there as well. Happy web
surfing. Nancy
DateSun, 21 Mar 1999 113919 EST
FromCml791@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
Hi Laura, I’ll be taking the judge’s course also, so maybe I can get together
with Aline too. I haven’t met her. Also interested in the 2nd annual QHL
dinner in Paducah. I’ll post later about my recent trip to Selma, AL
regarding quilt/genealogy research.
Carolyn in McKinney, TX
DateSun, 21 Mar 1999 140138 -0600
From”Karen Erlandson” erland@cooke.net
Well, for those of us who thirst after historic textile information – I
agree that Pieceworks is a favorite. Doesn’t come out often enough tho!
NOW – as the newsletter editor for the Vintage Quilt and Textile Society,
who spends countless hours each month putting together a newsletter for
those who are interested in such things, (without pay, I might add – boy can
I tell you the meaning of “non-profit”) —
I do think that VQTS puts together something of interest! The problem is
never finding something to write about – there’s tons of stuff that needs to
be put into print where it is easily found. (yes, I accept donations of your
time and research in the form of an article. no, you won’t receive payment
in money – only in my undying gratitude – and Laura’s as she wouldn’t have
to listen to me whine for a little while)
If only VQTS could put out a magazine!
Karen
DateSun, 21 Mar 1999 215919 -0500 (EST)
From”Joanna E. Evans”
Hi All,
I would be happy to arrange dinner in Paducah IF that sounds good to my
quilting buddy, who is driving this year. I’ll talk to her tomorrow and get
back to you. For the folks who went last year, was that restaurant OK with
you? Or, do you have a better suggestion. I would love to find a place with
round tables, but we’ll have trouble booking a place at this late date. (I
think it was the Pines, but I’ll look it up tomorrow.) Like last year,
Thursday evening is probably the evening that would work best for us. In
the meanwhile, feel free to (privately) email me with your suggestions,
comments, ideas, and–if Sandy is willing–I’ll get this organized soon.
Sorry I’ve been out of touch. Spring break ends tonight, the kids go back
to school tomorrow, and Mom flies back to her home in Massachusetts
tomorrow.
Paducah or bust!
Joanna Evans
Bloomington, IN
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 050055 EST
FromSaraLMcNaol.com
I would be interested in a meeting of the minds. I am arriving on Sunday to
set up for things. I would be willing to find a location at the Inn to gather,
and post that for anyone who may be interested on Monday or Tuesday?
Sara
Enchanted in KY
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 062218 -0800
From”Anne Copeland”
–Dear Sally,
You have to be very careful if you remove the old paper as you might tear some of the stitching loose in the process. I have had this same experience with a string quilt.
Also, that brings up an interesting issue. Some of these quilts we have seen with paper backing date back to the early 1800s, and there is no evidence of damage from the paper (i.e. the quilt is still intact). How can this be, when we have all seen damage from the acid in paper in quilts? Well, at least some of us have seen it. Is it because the paper had a higher rag content and less wood or ??? Anne Copeland
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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 101322 EST
FromQuiltFixeraol.com
In a message dated 3/22/99 62327 AM Pacific Standard Time,
anneappraisermailcity.com writes
<< Some of these quilts we have seen with paper backing date back to the early
1800s, and there is no evidence of damage from the paper (i.e. the quilt is
still intact). How can this be, when we have all seen damage from the acid in
paper in quilts? >>
I have not seen one that has no damage from the paper. As usual, I op for
making the decision to remove or not remove on a case by case situation. If I
wanted the quilt top for a teaching tool, or it was in very fragile condition,
I would leave it in. If I wanted to have the top last longer, I would
carefully remove. In a museum collection, in would most often not be removed.
Toni B.
QuiltFixeraol.com
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 111635 EST
FromQuiltNewsaol.com
Does anyone know of research done on Nancy Page patterns…Thanks
Ann
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 111930 EST
FromAlineMcKaol.com
Anneappraiser asked<< Some of these quilts we have seen with paper backing
date back to the early 1800s, and there is no evidence of damage from the
paper (i.e. the quilt is still intact). How can this be, when we have all
seen damage from the acid in paper in quilts? >>
Acid in paper didn’t really become a problem until the 20th century, if I
recall correctly. That’s when cheaper, shoddier paper processing came along.
I’ve seen (first-hand…oooooohhhhhh) 300-year-old books in pristine
condition, with glowing white paper. And I think you’re right, it’s because
paper used to be much higher cloth content, much less wood. Even with wood-
based paper, processing method counts, which is why paperbacks self-destruct
after 50
years, and some other books don’t.
Pop quizwhat’s USAn “paper money” made out of?
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 112809 EST
FromKathi2174aol.com
Toqhlcuenet.com
Anneappraiser asked<< Some of these quilts we have seen with paper backing
date back to the early 1800s, and there is no evidence of damage from the
paper (i.e. the quilt is still intact). How can this be, when we have all
seen damage from the acid in paper in quilts? >>
Acid in paper didn’t really become a problem until the 20th century, if I
recall correctly. That’s when cheaper, shoddier paper processing came along.
I’ve seen (first-hand…oooooohhhhhh) 300-year-old books in pristine
condition, with glowing white paper. And I think you’re right, it’s because
paper used to be much higher cloth content, much less wood. Even with wood-
based paper, processing method counts, which is why paperbacks self-destruct
after 50
years, and some other books don’t.
Pop quizwhat’s USAn “paper money” made out of?
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 113530 EST
Aline,
You’ve been so generous about this book vending! The time, the shopping, the
wrapping, the trips to the postoffice, keeping the list of who wants what!
Wow. I believe the tradition of sharing information among quilters is alive
and well. You’ve merely updated it computerly.
Least I can (and will) do is send you $$$ up front!
Happy Book Buyer,
Kathi in Calif.
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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 115407 EST
FromQuiltFixeraol.com
ToQHLcuenet.com
While looking for my box of “vintage” embroidery thread, I came across a
packet of quilting needles. They were made in England, “Milwards Needles.”
They were sold through JP Coats. On the outside of the packet is a ship and
the words. “War Pack.” Does anyone know the history behind “War Pack”? I
think this would qualify as “Quilting History” question. Any help or ideas
appreciated. Toni B.
QuiltFixeraol.com
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 120956 EST
FromAlineMcKaol.com
So the other night, I was in the local Irish pub, drinking my bottomless decaf
while listening to live music and working on the latest quilt (I love a pub
where you can sew & no one even notices), and on the way out, ran into some
co-workers, who were with a friend of theirs I hadn’t met before.
So I join them, and we chit-chat, and they ask what’s in the bag, and the
conversation turns to “How in the world do you fit that in a regular machine
(I
machine-quilt, but then tie off the loose ends and run them through the
batting…incredibly tedious (hence the pub setting (yes, I’ve tried reducing
the stitch size at the end instead, but don’t like how that looks)))?” And I
brag about having my mom’s old cast-iron Singer 603.
So this guy mentions that he’s a garage sale junkie, and recently bought a
1950s Rodney sewing machine, with cabinet, all instructions, etc, for $7.
My question is, what the heck’s a Rodney?
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 122104 EST
FromCml791aol.com
ToQHLcuenet.com
I recently returned from a trip to Selma, AL, where I found out my relatives
had lived in the 1830 – 40’s. I went to Selma because of an article in the
1991 issue of “Great American Quilts” by Oxmoor House. The article featured
an 1870’s quilt which they called a Kentucky Rose Variation. I had noticed
the article several years ago because of the family name Roller but thought
nothing of it because I knew my grandfather came from Tennessee. Then
recently I was going through some geneology papers from an aunt and noticed a
name written in pencil ‘Margaret Ann Roller Marshall, Selma’. I remembered
the article about the quilt, thus starting a series of phone calls.
The woman was a very gracious hostess and tour guide. She lives in the house
that was built in the 1840’s and still looks the same as when it was built.
She showed me lots of the family quilts, but most of them were not in good
shape, having been used but the point is they were family quilts, even though
very distant family. There was one broderie perse quilt with a wide chintz
border and woven tape binding that just begged to be cleaned, otherwise in
great condition, beautiful tiny stitches. There were also some woven
coverlets. She said there were others that she had not taken out of trunks (I
saw several trunks) but she didn’t think there were any as nice as the
Kentucky Rose.
I’m sure I will visit again and stay longer. As to the family connection, we
think our respective g-g-g-grandfathers were brothers. I don’t think I would
have found her if not for the quilting connection. Oh, I forgot, when I
looked back at the book I realized the leaf pattern was one I had adapted for
a border on a quilt I made 4 years ago.
Carolyn in McKinney, Tx
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 112815 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler
Is that so it is “resilliant”?
At 1128 AM 3/22/99 EST, Kathi2174aol.com wrote
In a message dated 3/22/99 82101 AM Pacific Standard Time, AlineMcKaol.com
writes
>
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 123346 -0500
From”A.A. Harkavy”
Just thought I’d mention that PineTree Quiltworks has opened its completely
“renovated” online fabric store. New departments, loads of new fabrics,
easy navigation by category, manufacturer, designer, fabric line, etc. All
prices 20% off. Some reproduction fabrics (in their own categories)
…with more repro fabrics on the way. To get to the store, go to
http//quilt.com/pinetree … then click on Virtual Fabric store, and from
there be sure to scroll down to the way you want to search the shop (by
manufacturer, by all fabrics, by category, etc).
Addy
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 094737 -0800
FromTamara Williams
To”‘QHLcuenet.com'”
Hi all –
I am planning on what to do with myself when I retire from my current job.
I am interested in Textile Conservation; are there college course one takes
leading to a degree? Do you go apprentice yourself to a museum? Any ideas
would be appreciated!
— Tamara
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 130039 -0500
From”J. G. Row”
To”Quilt History List”
SubjectQHLKowaleski Antique Textile Sale
We are back from the Kowaleski sale, and had a wonderful day — even in the
rain, which got worse as we approached Lancaster, cleared up as we went in
and out of shops, and then became a deluge again as we headed home, after
dark.
We got there in no time at all (1 3/4 hours) — at least it seemed that
way to me ’cause my head was down in my applique most of the time. By the
way, any of you who sew (as a passenger) in the car, isn’t it neat how you
can crack your window down an 8th of an inch, hold your thread snivvy within
2 inches of the opening, and the wind will just suck it out? I don’t
consider that littering!
Seriously, when you get off the Pa. Turnpike at exit 21, and then get on
to 272 South, South Pointe Antiques is the first antique shop you see. It
is really one of those “showcase” places with something like 130 dealers.
You can’t touch anything unless you get someone with a key to open up the
case for you. Not at all like our local antique shops, which only lock up
the jewelry and the silver. But virtually all the shops from the Turnpike
all the way into Lancaster are the same way. And I’ve seen them that way in
Fort Worth, and in Denver, too. Of course that means you are only looking
at “smalls”, rarely ever good early furniture, etc., which is what DH lives
for.
We found a great place to eat lunch — the Silk City Diner, just down the
road on 272. I had the most incredible chunk of homemade lasagna, (my
cholesterol allowance for 3 weeks) while Allan, a man with no imagination,
ordered a burger. I gave him a bite of mine and his eyes lit up, so we put
in another order to take home for dinner. Try to eat one meal there if you
go to Quilt Heritage in Lancaster.
OK, this is what you santed to hear. I spent some money at the Kowalski
sale, but the prices were not out of line, very good actually.
Among the items I brought home were 2 very well priced quilt tops, all in
indigo’s cadet blues, and shirtings.
I got a large box of actual cardboard quilting patterns, some I’ve never
seen before. One of the pieces of cardboard was from a railroad timetable
poster from Reading Pa., and dated 1951. Well, they are almost 50 years
old, so they are almost antique.
I got an incredible piece of Turkey red print, about the size of a
card-table cover, that looks very much like the prints in those Russian
quilts that toured the East Coast last Fall, except it is border printed on
all 4 sides, leading me to believe it was printed as a large bandana or
shawl. It is absolutely stunning!
Merikay, are you listening?
I got yardage of a chintz cheater cloth, that looks like a double Irish
chain with a printed mariner’s compass in the center of the empty blocks.
Spectacular!
Eileen Trestain, or Debbie Roberts have you seen this before, and can you
date it?
Allan insisted I get a small, walnut sewing box with a fitted drawer, and a
lift-up lid. He thought it was a great bargain. It came with a homemade
pin cushion.
All this indulgence is in way of presents for my birthday, which day is
looming 2 weeks away.
Marilyn Kowaleski is a very lovely person. Of all the antique shops listed
in the brochures and on the web sites, she is the only one who adds her name
to the listing as the owner. That speaks of honesty and integrity, to me.
She was very friendly, and was so happy to hear of regards from Julie
Silber, who early in the month posted to me about how good her sale was and
told me that if I go I should give her her regards.
She told me she wanted to get onto QHL, but didn’t know how, so I wrote down
the info on how to join us. I hope she does. She is very knowledgeable.
And she thanked me and called me by name when I left, so I am hers forever.
Little things mean so much.
Look for her request, Kris
Finally, although her ads say the sale ends on March 31st, she told me she
will continue it through the 14th of April. She’d be foolish not to, with
the influx of quilters with pockets bulging with money about to invade!
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrowblast.net
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 105438 -0800
From”Melissa Devin”
To,
Funny you ask -) I was watching the history channel a couple of months
ago, and they were talking about money and it’s history. Apparently, it’s
made the same way that it always had been. Isn’t it made out of cotton
fibers? I guess I didn’t retain the knowledge very well… but it was an
interesting program -))
Melissa
~~~~~~~~~~~
Pop quizwhat’s USAn “paper money” made out of?
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 130409 -0600
FromJocelyn
ToQHL-Digestcuenet.com, QHLcuenet.com
>
I’m really not out to dis any of the magazines, but, as I say, they just
don’t hold my interest any longer. I’d love to see some really “meaty”
history articles, maybe something exploring by region, or locale
Nancy,
I absolutely agree! I used to love to read quilt magazines…right
up to the point where I realized that I wasn’t going to live long
enough to make all the projects I’d collected directions to make!
At that point, I sort of lost interest in ‘how-to’ magazines.
It’s not a slam of the magazines…I did the same thing with
cookbooks. OTOH, I know several people who love to read
cookbooks! So I’m sure that along with people who are still looking
to add to their ‘to-do’ list, there are people who love to look at
projects and analyze the directions, even if they don’t intend to
make them all. Personally, though, I don’t read cookbooks and I
don’t read instruction books any more, unless I’m looking for
specific instructions about how to make something.
The quilting books and magazines that continue to grab my
attention are the ‘quilt show’ typewhere there are picture after
picture of beautiful quilts, with stories about their history.
Jocelyn
Jocelynmdelphi.com
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 222751 -0500
From”J. G. Row” Judygrow@blast.net
Until around the time of the Civil War, paper was made out of cotton
linters. That is why the NYTimes from the mid 19th century is in better
shape than last week’s paper.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 224057 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
Toqhl@cuenet.com
You are correct, sir! And that’s also the answer to the currency puzzle
“paper” money, even today, is made out of cotton. I believe there’s also a
small amount of silk; the very fine red threads that help act as
anticounterfeit.
Plus the embedded strip that appears with the denomination when you hold it up
to the light (this is true of older money as well as the new “monopoly”
money). And, obligatory trivia, if you look very, very, closely at the oval
around the portraits of the $20 and above bills, you’ll see it’s not a solid
line…it’s writing, about 1/2 mm high, saying “United States of America” over
& over. You may need a magnifying glass. Again, anti-counterfeit. The writing
is finer than a copy machine can duplicate.
Are we far enough off-topic yet? I can bring up the bit about guessing the
model of the car that’s on the back of the $20. (or is it the $10?).
In a message dated 3/22/99 92937 PM, Judygrow@blast.net writes
Until around the time of the Civil War, paper was made out of cotton
linters. That is why the NYTimes from the mid 19th century is in better
shape than last week’s paper.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 194804 -0800
From”Christine Thresh” christine@winnowing.com
We could use cut up paper money for English paper piecing. Or we could sew
many bills together and use it to wrap our quilts for storage.
Christine Thresh
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DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 225350 -0500
From”J. G. Row” Judygrow@blast.net
To”Quilt History List” QHL@cuenet.com
SubjectQHLcardboard quilting templates
Today I was able to spend a lot of time with the cardboard box of templates
I bought yesterday. Many of them have broken into pieces in the very narrow
sections and I’ve been taping them together, as the original owner did
numerous times. In my last post I mentioned the 1951 date found printed on
one of the pieces of cardboard. Today I found one with a 1933 date. They
were the same type of cardboard, with the same printing; it seems like a
yearly calendar of bus and/or train time schedules, and tips, and household
hints put out by the Reading Eagle. So it seems our early quilter lived
near enough to Reading Pa to get the same wall poster every year for many
years.
I have some very good plastic, a huge pile of the plastic used for the
“Template Applique” kits. This is heavier weight and in much larger sheets
than the stencil plastic we can buy retail. So I plan to trace all these
stencils off onto the plastic to make sure the patterns are available
without too much handling of the actual cardboard.
My question is, how do I permantly preserve the original stencils? My first
thought was encasing them in contact paper, but that in not reversible, so
not considered good conservation practice. My second idea is to encase them
in Mylar, but that wouldn’t prevent the fragile 1/4″ connections from
breaking further.
Anyone out there have some good conservation practice for this project?
Remember, I don’t have the kind of storage a museum would have.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
DateMon, 22 Mar 1999 220954 -0800
From”Anne Copeland” anneappraiser@mailcity.com
—
Thanks, Judy for your enlightening “factoid” (thank you Julia) on paper. I had a suspicion that paper was a higher rag content than wood, but I was not clear as to the %. Would there have been any acid involved in the manufacturing of rag into paper? So during, or after the civil war, was paper made only from wood, or a combination? Thanks again, Anne Copeland
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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 073225 -0000
From”Kirk Collection” kirkcoll3@home.com
I’ll be in Paducah from Sunday through the following Sunday mid-day —
taking the two appraisal revoew courses and testing. We don’t have a booth
this year, but will have an “Open House” in my room on Friday at the
Executive Inn. Just ask for my name on the house phone and I tell you the
room number — don’t know ittil I get there. Or callthe shop that week and
they can tell you. I’ll be bringing “a few things.” Drop by and say hi.
Nancy Kirk
The Kirk Collection
1-800-398-2542
www.kirkcollection.com
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 085705 EST
FromCToczek@aol.com
I finally understand the comments on the changes in the quilt mags. After
subscibing to QNM only about a year, I just had the chance to go through some
back issues of the same. I agree that QNM was then much “meatier” in history,
“people/guild” articles and general interest topics. The ones I’ve received
lately seem to be turning into “pattern” magazines…..like so many of the
others? What about American Patchwork and Quilting? Not like the old QNM,
but Heidi Kaisand and the staff are including history-based articles and it
has become “meatier” in the past year.
Carla, West Point, NY
who found spring for a week in Arkansas only to return to snow yet
again……..
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 081055 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Thought that might get your attention ….
Actually that is the title of an article in yesterdays Dallas Morning News.
Some of you may remember the thread that we had going quite some time
ago….what exactly IS “poison” green, nile green, alizeran blue…….
Well one of the reasons that we as textile historians cant keep a handle on
the names follows….
Taken from the Dallas Morning News- Monday March 22 Page C-1
“A SHADY LINE OF WORK
What color is Infinity? This sounds like the kide of question you ask after
you’ve heard one hand clapping, but it’s more likely to come up at your
local paint shop.
Infinity is what Behr paints calls an ultra-brught white lates and it’s
typical of the latest trend in paintnames that have notheing to do with
colors such as Homecoming, Victory, Hummingbird, Bitter Root, Dark Secret.
Naming new paint colors is an extremely infomal qualitative process, says
Kristi Thorne, a spokeswomna at Cleveland-based Glidden Paints.
“We gather up a couple of people who are great at thinking up names, and a
few bottles of wine, and lock them all in a room until they finish the job.
The most recent batch had about 650 colors”……..
Wish I had a scanner to scan the 9 samples and the multiple choice test
they gave for readers to match up…….Did you know that what we’ve been
calling Nile Green is now “Hummingbird”……..go figure!!!
And who do we call to apply for next years panel…..and can we opt for
Margaritas instead of wine??????????
Laura
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 093958 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
FromMary Persyn Mary.Persyn@valpo.edu
ToQHL@cuenet.com
The above topics aren’t as far apart as you might think. )
Paper money – According to the Federal Reserve Bank of
Atlanta’s web site, US currency is printed on cotton and
linen rag paper. So we could use paper moeny for paper
piecing and not have to worry about the acid content.
Acid paper – Reaching back into ancient history (library
school in the late 1960s), we were taught that paper used
in the US before about 1850 was made from rags and so had a
low acid content. About 1850 the cheap process of making
paper from wood pulp was invented and soon almost all paper
was made from wood pulp and had a high acid content.
That’s why books in the library from before the Civil War
are holding up better than much newer ones.
Deacidification of library materials is a major problem for
most libraries, which many of us can’t afford to deal with.
Paducah – I’m up for getting together in Paducah.
Thursday, Friday or Saturday night would be best for me.
Mary in sunny Valparaiso, IN where the crocuses are in
bloom!!!
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 090402 -0800
From”R & L Carroll” Robert.J.Carroll@GTE.net
To”QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
Hello!
Color “names” can be very confusing when trying to determine colors used
through out the decades. I prefer to use the color wheel when describing
colors (blue-green, yellow-green, yellow-orange, etc.) Color names changed
over time with fashion, as they do now, and some colors were named later
simply because they were associated with certain areas or certain
nationalities.
It seems useless to try and determine what was meant by these type of
names. Should we assume that everyone in a certain time period agreed on
exactly what color could be called by a certain name? I have seen the name
“Nile Green” for greens from light yellow-greens to deep blue-greens.
The notion that there were only certain hues used in certain decades is
incorrect. As a collector of scrap quilts I see a wide range of colors,
used in the same quilt. An example is the 1930-40 time span, where there
were dozens of greens used. Not just ” Nile green”, or “that thirties
green”.
It is true that certain colors were very popular in certain time periods.
And we all enjoy hearing the charming and interesting names from earlier
times.
Laurette in so. California
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 151051 +0400
FromXenia Cord xecord@netusa1.net
Some thoughts on quilt magazines First, most magazines work 6-7 months
in the future, so there may be the kinds of articles you are looking for
coming up later in the year. For instance, I will have 2 articles on
conversation prints in American Patchwork & Quilting, one in August and
one in December. The text for the August issue was due at the magazine
this past January 15; the one for December is due May 1.
Second, most magazines have a fixed number of pages, a percentage of
which must be allotted to advertisers who pay the cost of the
publication; the balance must be editorially juggled between pattern
articles, how-to pages, news, new products, contests, all the wonderful
pictures we love – you know the format. In order to make room for those
historically-oriented articles (“meaty,” someone said), either something
has to go or the number of pages must be increased. This is not a
decision that boards of directors and editors make lightly.
Third, while we in QHL may wish for more historical focus, there are
those who don’t like/don’t read articles of that kind, and feel that
quilt magazines are meant to be full of instruction (maybe replacing the
traditional family as a source of information on quilting?). When I did
an APQ article last August on historical kit quilts they used my email
address as a point of contact. I can’t tell you how many people wrote
to order one of the kits shown in the article, but in another color.
(So – we don’t read?)
Bottom line – with the field of quilt interest as diverse as it is, it
is hard for the current quilt magazines to be all things to all people.
That’s why there is a publication for miniature quilts, and one for art
quilts. For pure historical-interest publications, one can join the
Vintage Quilt and Textile Society or the American Quilt Study Group,
just to name 2 possibilities. I recommend them both.
Xenia
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 151937 +0400
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ToQHL@cuenet.com
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I think it’s a good idea to try to put antique colors into a current
color spectrum frame of description, but perhaps these terms should be
appositive to the name used for that color when the color was popular.
For instance, it makes little sense to use the term “bubblegum pink”
when referring to 19th century tone-on-tone pink prints, since bubblegum
wasn’t even a reality then.
Xenia
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 143447 -0600
FromKAREN BUSH Birdsong@worldnet.att.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com
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Hi guys…we’re sprucing up the website and we have a new ‘room’ or two
for you to go into. One is the Q&A area. Just click on the hot link
under my name…..we’ll also have a new BB up today sometime. I’ve had
several e-mails lately asking me some quilting (hand quilting)
questions, and thought this would be a good idea to put up. ??
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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 164435 -0800
From”pepper cory” pepcory@bmd.clis.com
SubjectQHLQuilt mags and what’s popular
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Greetings all antique quilt lovers–got to agree with Xenia on this
subject. The bottom of the pyramid of quilting interest has gotten WAY
larger in the past five years and magazines know what sells–great color
and patterns that are within the capabilities of their readers. I’ve just
faced this fact while finishing writing a book on quilt marking–we had to
ax the chapter on the history of quilt marking. Believe me, for one who
adores the flotsam and jetsam of quilt history, that decision was like
self-amputation! But how many people (don’t hold up your hands all at
once!) give a mouse patootie about the influence of 18th century French
embroidery factories on American quilts today? Our solution in the book was
to show as many great antique quilts as possible and feed the reader bits
of palatible history along with the how-to. When Susan McKelvey and I wrote
The Signature Quilt, we poured our heart and soul into that work. It was
truly history, how-to, and mucho patterns for the money. That book has not
sold well to the masses but remains decorative on a coffee table or handy
for that extra inch your wobbly table needs. However, we who love the old,
the stained, the challenge to piece and applique, may not be without
resources. What about approaching a magazine publisher about trying an
issue, perhaps once a year, that’s devoted to antique quilts?
I vote for Christiane Meunier at Chitra as a possible publisher. Comments?
Pepper Cory
PS-apologies for the length–I have fallen off my soapbox…
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 144200 -0800
From”Julia D. Zgliniec” rzglini1@san.rr.com
Topepper cory pepcory@bmd.clis.com
Dear Pepper and QHL,
Piecework by Interweave Press has found a way to balance history and
“how to” in a very successful way. It has become one of my favorites.
It would be a good place to read about the “history of marking quilting
designs”. They touch on all sorts of needlework topics.
IMHO as far a the current crop of quilt books go, more and more is
being written on less and less. But, as everyone has said thus far,
there must be a market for what is being written or there would not be
so much.
I’ll get off my soapbox now too,
Julia Zgliniec
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 181433 -0500
From”Peggy O’Connor” mnoc@brinet.com
Pepper wrote
What about approaching a magazine publisher about trying an
issue, perhaps once a year, that’s devoted to antique quilts?
I’d love to see a magazine issue devoted to antique quilts, since I don’t
buy the quilt magazines now because there is little to no history in them.
I love antique quilts and fabrics and their histories, but I rarely make a
quilted project. I have enjoyed Piecework because it is so beautifully
done, but I do hate buying a magazine for only one quilt article, so I have
passed it by sometimes.
Peggy, in the middle of sewing valances (one mostly done and four to go)
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 180909 EST
FromSaraLMcN@aol.com
I have to agree with Xenia, the diverse nature of quilting makes it hard for
publishers to focus on one aspect. I know that another problem is obtaining
material presents a constant challenge, many publications would like input and
ideas. Readers get discouraged because there is the long wait to see the
results.
Another thing that I have noticed and after talking to other vendors is the
smaller number of historical / reference books being published with not many
in the works. I think as we continue to see the changes in spending occur in
the quilting market that there will be a focus on books, etc., that appeal to
the largest group. While I think our area is the most important, we are a
small specialty market. There will still be reference books, but they may be
harder to get published and will really need our support when they are
introduced.
Sara
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 185301 +0400
FromXenia Cord xecord@netusa1.net
Well, I have to stick my oar in on the issue of historical/reference
books, as well. Just try to have a manuscript published, especially one
that has lots of illustrations that should be done in color. The
popular presses will tell you that the book has to have either a price
guide or patterns to sell successfully. This is often not a good fit
with the subject. Try, for instance, to publish a book on the history
of kits and kit quilts, and establish any kind of a price guide that is
meaningful. And of course patterns are pretty much out, since each
entire quilt would need to be copied in pieces (a great many were
center medallion floral appliques with hundreds of pieces.)
I have another good book idea in the works, with much of the writing
done and many of the artifacts assembled. This idea crosses cultural and
collecting lines, but is also not a good pattern/price guide fit. So, I
haven’t been able to discuss it with a publisher.
One wonders if the market has created this problem, or if the
publishers, thinking they see where the demand is, have created the
problem. It’s sort of like the lurid and repetitious covers on
“romance” paperbacks – the publishers say the audience (mostly women)
wants them, the authors (again, mostly women) say it’s the publishers
(mostly men) who think they are necessary to sell the books.
I think I need a nap!
Xenia
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 220244 -0500
From”J. G. Row” Judygrow@blast.net
Judy,
I buy from an archive company binders and folder sheet that are for
preserving paper items. If you are interested contact me, I can either buy
them for you through the shop at cost or give you there info. I store all
my
KC star patterns that way. For the larger pieces, I have one acid free box
that sits up on top of my shelf and I place all of my stencils in these.
Sara
Sara,
Thank you for your answer and your offer, however, as a picture framer, I
have access to all those distributors of preservation materials. I buy from
Light Impressions, etc. all the time.
My problem is that some of the larger home-cut stencils are falling apart at
the bridges, or feathers are downright falling off. There are no folders or
things you can buy that are large enough for them.
I might have found the solution to my problem today. A couple of weeks ago
I bought out the contents of another picture frame store. Along with the
really useful stuff for the store came a roll of what I thought was either
shrink wrap or dry-mounting tissue. Turns out I have a 24″ x 500′ roll of
the stuff that is being sold to quilters as thread wrap. This roll is
labeled as toy wrap, but it is exactly the same stuff. It is absolutely
clear and sticks to itself. I’ve cut large chunks of it off and am wrapping
each stencil individually, and it is working. The clear stuff (vinyl, I
suppose) is just the right amount of support each brittle and fragile
stencil needs to be handled without further damage.
I suppose the stuff is inert, or it wouldn’t be sold to wrap threads (you
know what they say about people who assume). But the materials these
stencils are made of are self destructing at a furious rate anyway. At
least his will hold the detritus together.
My first thought was to cut the vinyl into sections to give to my guild to
sell as thread wrap as a fund raiser (a lifetime supply). But I’ve found a
really good use for it, so the guild will do without.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
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FromSaraLMcN@aol.com SaraLMcN@aol.com
ToJudygrow@blast.net Judygrow@blast.net
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 151335 -0800
FromAnne Scott nzquilter@xtra.co.nz
I come to this discussion as editor, publisher (and most other things
besides) of a small (by US standards) and only New Zealand quilt
magazine New Zealand QUILTER.
Yes, from my experience, Xenia is right on target. Several years ago I
introduced profiling an antique quilt in each issue. It involved a lot of
research, tracking these old quilts down, often in the store rooms of
museums (we don’t have very many in NZ) and getting them photographed and
writing the article. Yes, I did most of the legwork and learned heaps.
From it dates my interest in historical textiles of all sorts.
However, there was never any feedback from readers and when, after about
a year and a half I cut those pages to make way for – yes – more
patterns, there was not one letter or communication. I wondered if anyone
in fact noticed that the antique quilt column had vanished. And reader
surveys I have done all point to the vast majority of quilters buying
magazines for the patterns.
I’ve been in the business for almost seven years now and seen significant
changes. With the proliferation of magazines and increasing competition
for the quilter’s dollars on the newsstands, the smaller interest groups
will ultimately be less well served. It’s an expensive business printing
in colour on good paper stock so I had no option but to go with what
readers overwhelmingly were telling me.
I am sure the bigger magazines could tell a similar tale.
Thanks to QHL for providing a forum for us all.
Regards
Anne Scott
Editor & Publisher
New Zealand QUILTER magazine
Wellington, New Zealand
DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 211255 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Bottom line – with the field of quilt interest as diverse as it is, it
is hard for the current quilt magazines to be all things to all people.
That’s why there is a publication for miniature quilts, and one for art
quilts. For pure historical-interest publications, one can join the
Vintage Quilt and Textile Society or the American Quilt Study Group,
just to name 2 possibilities. I recommend them both.
>
Xenia
>
For those who are not members, I attach the following information on
VQTS….Xenia is a member who has contributed articles to the newsletter in
the past, and Karen eagerly awaits more
Laura
We invite you to become a memeber of the Vintage Quilt and Textile Society.
An organization devoted to the sharing of research and knowledge of antique
quilts, textiles and related subjects. With QUARTERLY mini-conferences ,
” Quilt College”held in the Dallas, Texas , our MONTHLY newsletter mailed
worldwide enables all members to participate by contributing articles and
book reviews pertaining to the selected topics of the month. Membership
dues are $24.00 anually US membership, International membership $30.00 US
funds only
*For more information, contact vqts1@airmail.net (that’s vqtsone*)
or write to
VQTS
2401 Blue Cypress
Richardson, TX 75082
for a complimentary copy of the newsletter and membership application.
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DateTue, 23 Mar 1999 205946 -0800 (PST)
From”Pat L. Nickols” patlnickols@yahoo.com
To reply to the question Judy asked, storage of old cardboard quilting
templates.
Over the years I too have gathered some, and felt they were important
so did buy an acid free box to store them. These boxes are sturdy and
do protect the often fragile, small, and well used templates. If the
pattern is one I want to use I photocopy and paste on cardboard or
plastic. Some of my old ones are cereal boxes, contain all sorts of
writing, some notes on how many pieces to cut, color, even gardening
notes. Fun to read.
Pat L. Nickols
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 074007 EST
Dear Friends,
I have been known to stick a spool of hand quilting thread on my machine in a
pinch
( you know…when I’m too lazy to dig for the right thing…..)
I was told by a quilting instructor to NEVER to that…hand quilting thread is
waxed and that the wax would mess up your machine…..
I’ve since read the labels and I don’t see anything to that effect on the
label…what’s the deal. I KNOW someone on our list will have information.
Thanks,
Dana
in cool and cloudy southwest VA
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 084447 EST
FromBaglady111@aol.com
IT IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER..April 8, 9, and 10..at THE HOLIDAY INN on
GREENFIELD ROAD..we have moved to this new location.. It is across from the
TOURIST CENTER..come out of THE HOST and make a left on Rt 30..come two
miles…some see us..and visit our web site to tell you of all the FUN STUFF
going on…any questions..EMAIL ME ..JANE of THE FEEDSACK CLUB
http//members.aol.com/baglady111/
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 085213 EST
FromJQuilt@aol.com
Tonzquilter@xtra.co.nz, qhl@cuenet.com
SubjectQHLquilt history on a website….
Thank you, Anne Scott, for that insight into the quilting magazine
business…..
I think it would be wonderful, if once every month or maybe every 2 months,
someone from QHL sent Kris a picture/drawing of an antique quilt they own..
and the history behind that quilt… then Kris could put it up on the Website
for QHL, and we could all see and read about it……or maybe someone else on
this list could “do” a website for this purpose….as Kris no doubt has enough
on her plate right now….
I had the pleasure of meeting Kris at our guild quilt show in Amherst MA…and
she is as great, in person as she is on this list…I do hope that the venture
into Amherst was a profitable one for her…
jean laino
jquilt@aol.com
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 080742 -0600 (CST)
FromCarol H Elmore celmore@ksu.edu
In response to Judy’s and Pat’s comments about cardboard templates, I also
have an extensive vintage cardboard template collection. I ordered acid
free file boxes and hanging files and have categorized them into various
subjects such as leaves, circles, etc. This does not solve the problem of
the acid in the templates themselves but at least I have reduced the acid
content in the storage containers. I have a pH testing pencil and test
this storage material to see if any acidity has been transferred to the
storage materials. The storage materials get quite expensive but I feel
it’s worth it to protect my templates as long as possible.
Carol Elmore
Manhattan, KS
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 093859 EST
FromJQuilt@aol.com
Isn’t it about time to replace paper with electronics…I receive far too much
mail that I have to read…look at…or toss out before reading or looking
at….
If they can put an encyclopedia on a disc…why not a quilting magazine?…One
could pay a subscription price and then receive the electronic magazine once a
month at a website.. that only subscribers could access….
If I saw a picture of a quilt or an article about a quilt, on the website,
that I wanted to save. .. I could download it to a flopply disk or CD…it
would take up a lotttttt less space and save a lot of trees….
What do you think?
jean
jquilt@aol.com
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 064730 -0800
From”Anne Copeland” anneappraiser@mailcity.com
–You go, Jean!
Great idea. The web has so much potential. I guess the only drawback are the many who don’t even own a computer yet. Perhaps for them the new media could feature a special TV channel where they could access their subscriptions and just program in each magazine to be read separately. It certainly does sound like the wave of the future. Also, there could be animation in some cases, or instead of just seeing the winning quilts from a big show, you could visit the whole site. Wow, let’s get moving!
Cheers from Anne Copeland
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DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 090659 -0600 (CST)
Frommagee@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG
ToXenia Cord xecord@netusa1.net
I for one am looking forward to your book on kit and kit quilts. I am a
librarian and this sort of problem in publishing is not limited to quilt
history books. this sort of marketing to the masses is what is happening
with the huge book stores and the demise of small book stores as well.
It really helps to be only interested in whatever everybody else is
interested in. I’m aware I am guilty of gross generalizations, but the
trend bothers me.
Laurie in sunny Oshkosh.
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 071518 -0800
From”Julia D. Zgliniec” rzglini1@san.rr.com
Dear Carol,
You mentioned a ph testing pencil.
Will you please tell us how this works and how it is used. I wonder
what other applications it has?
Thank you,
Julia
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 111004 EST
FromJQuilt@aol.com
this is the address for the museum…and a posting about the exhibit…there
weren’t any photos of quilts on the site.
http//www.denverartmuseum.org/
Crazy Quilts & Other Curiosities
October 31, 1998 through April 11, 1999
As one of the most popular and often asked about collections of the Denver Art
Museum, crazy quilts exemplify the highest levels of intricate handiwork
paired with unparalleled creativity. You’re sure to go crazy over this
colorful presentation of more than a dozen of the Museum’s most bold and
beautiful quilts.
jean
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 103657 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
FromMary Persyn Mary.Persyn@valpo.edu
I had a request for the web address for the crazy quilt
article I mentioned in an earlier message. I found the
article in a fee-based service called Lexis-Nexis. However,
I checked the CS Monitor’s website and the article is there
(with pictures, Lexis-Nexis is text only). The URL is
http//www.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/03/24/fp18s1-csm.shtml
Mary
DateWed, 24 Mar 99 190941 EST
From”Bob Mills” decision@tigger.jvnc.net
The reason I wrote about buying no more tops or lumpy tops several days ago
was that I am very frustrated trying to make the top reasonably flat that I
bought in Omaha. (Not from Nancy.) Also creating and filling in the edges,
when nothing could be accurately measured for size.
To give myself a break and do something easy, I decided to sandwich and
baste the Streak of Lightening from the doubled sided quilt I brought to
Omaha. I hadn’t ironed it after washing it and started to wonder as I
pressed the top. Sure enough, a large half of a beach ball in the middle
and various spots with smaller tennis size bulges when I spread it on the floor.
I was especially glum because I just acquired for peanuts a lovely 1870-80’s
hexagon quilt with a secondary pattern of large stars. Lovely material,
bright colors, very large and extremely uneven. Evident even just holding
it up. The hexagons aren’t quite hexagons and it is a mystery why or how
the quilter continued to pleat these pieces together. The only solution
would be to——-unstitch and recut and resew each hexagon.
In the meantime, the Streak of Lightening has been taken apart into squares
and I will square them and resew. And since it is so far apart, I might
just as well replace a few of the pieces that look coffee-stained with clean
vintage fabric.
Things are so bad that I lied to my husband when he asked if i was going to
take the entire quilt top apart. “Oh no, just a few sections.” I am the
only person in this town-maybe county -who has to vacuum herself several
times a day to pick off the threads from my clothes I am wearing! A little
bit of forward progress will help my spirits.
Jan Drechsler (not Bob)
http//ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bobmills/jan.html
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 135847 -0300
Fromsusan silva woody@ior.com
Topepcory@bmd.clis.com
Dear Pepper,
As a QHL person, and lover of all quilts, I must say that I was shocked
when I read your post about your book not selling well. As a past
president of my guild, (Spokane Valley Quilters)current newsletter
editor, and owner of many, many quilt books, magazines etc…YOUR BOOK
IS MY VERY FAVORITE BOOK! It inspires me and I just love everything
about the book. It was my guide when I inked drawings on my (3 years in
the works) applique quilt. Starting with one inking, it looked so
awesome I did the other 11 blocks. It will be a prize winner this year
(i hope)and your section on writings,techniques, tracings etc, was my
hands on guide.Also in my collection I have 6 red/green applique blocks
where the signatures deteriorated because of the ink, as your example
shows on page 36 of your book.
For any quilter, this is a must own book for your library!Thanks Pepper
and Susan for your inspirational book.
Sincerely,
Susan C.Silva in Sunny Spokane Washington
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 192147 -0500
FromBarb Garrett bgarrett@fast.net
I can’t speak for the difficulties in getting a quilt history book
published, but I do know that it has ranged from very difficult to
impossible to buy a quilt history book even when you know the title,
author, publisher. I am speaking pre-QHL days, but during that time I
would visit many quilt shops and ask if they could order a book — it
never was on the shelf. I was told that “it’s one of those history
books, and they don’t sell, so we don’t carry them.” And they would not
special order it for me. They perceived that their customers wanted
patterns, and “those books don’t have any patterns in them.” And when
I would say the publisher was Rutledge Hill (my favorite publisher),
that was an automatic kiss of death. I had many shop owners tell me
they never buy books by Rutledge, they prefer That Patchwork Place –
those are the kinds of books their customers want. It was useless to
explain that I wanted to be a potential customer, so…
I was delighted to discover I could buy my books once a year — at the
Lancaster Show. After visiting the antique dealers booths — yes, I
know exactly where Xenia is located and have been visiting her since
before I knew her name — my next stop was the big book dealer. I had
to get there fairly early because he would only bring about 3 of some of
the history books — I guess he didn’t want to take up much space on
these books nobody wants . Yes, we are a small niche in the big
quilt picture, but it seems we may be part of a self-fulfilling prophecy
— nobody wants the books, so nobody will publish them and nobody
carries them if they are published, so nobody can buy them, so
obviously, nobody wanted them in the first place since nobody is buying
them. A weird kind of logic.
So, we need to be grateful for those who self publish like Jeannette
Lesansky and those who can get Rutlege Hill to listen like Merikay —
her Civil War book appears to be popular with non-quilters as well as
quilters because of it’s history, and doesn’t have any patterns. But my
local quilt shops still won’t carry it because of the publisher, and
several have shown me “this better Civil War” book “because it has
patterns”. They don’t understand that it’s hard to sell a book if they
won’t carry it on their shelf.
Barb in southeastern PA
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 202742 EST
FromSaraLMcN@aol.com
Another great source for books that I recently found is the MAQS bookstore in
Paducah, they have a great selection. I have called them twice in the last
year and they have sent books to me at home.
Pepper, I have never seen your book. Would you give us the ISBN number, so I
could try to find it.
Sara
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 184347 -0800
FromJudith Brainerd jnrbrainerd@home.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I’m trying to date a White treadle sewing machine and can’t find any
websites dealing with dating a White. Does anyone know where I can get
this machine dated or maybe a book that would help?
Thanks!
Judith Brainerd
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 141610 -0400
FromLorraine Olsson sven@pnc.com.au
Me To!! Me To!!!
I bought wonderful old treadle in an full Oak cabinet all in very good
condition. It is a dream to use. I know White machines were made in
Cincinati, but I would love to know the year.
I believe there is a phone number that you can call and if you have the
serial number, they will give you the date, but I am in Australia and do
not know the number. I believe it is a 1800 number.
If you find out, please let me know.
Lorraine in OZ
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 223829 -0500
From”J. G. Row” Judygrow@blast.net
Carol,
So, how do you store templates/stencils that are 30″ long by 10″ wide? I
certainly don’t want to fold them!
And the poster/calendars that many of these are on, 20 years worth, are
incredibly interesting to read. Lots of history, almanac stuff, timetables,
household hints.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
DateWed, 24 Mar 1999 201724 -0800 (PST)
FromJackie Joy jjoy@med.unr.edu
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 JQuilt@aol.com wrote
Isn’t it about time to replace paper with electronics…(a cyber quilt
magazine)
would take up a lotttttt less space and save a lot of trees….
>
What do you think?
I think it would be difficult to read it in the bathroom.;-)
Jackie Joy
jjoy@med.unr.edu
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 044023 -0500
FromLynn and Debbie Cupp lcupp@erols.com
For sewing machines? ;>
Go to ismacs.net
Glean what you can from their generous online information and if you
can’t find what you are looking for there, feel free to join the ISMACS
discussion list. We collect sewing machines and feel this is the best
resource for all models. The featherweight list is helpful, too, but
for the old models this is a very comprehensive discussion group. The
featherweight group, Featherweight Fanatics, has a subscription fee
after a free trial period now. Ismacs is free.
Debbie
Lorraine Olsson wrote
>
Me To!! Me To!!!
I bought wonderful old treadle in an full Oak cabinet all in very good
condition. It is a dream to use. I know White machines were made in
Cincinati, but I would love to know the year.
I believe there is a phone number that you can call and if you have the
serial number, they will give you the date, but I am in Australia and do
not know the number. I believe it is a 1800 number.
>
If you find out, please let me know.
>
Lorraine in OZ
>
Judith Brainerd wrote
>
I’m trying to date a White treadle sewing machine and can’t find any
websites dealing with dating a White. Does anyone know where I can get
this machine dated or maybe a book that would help?
>
Thanks!
>
Judith Brainerd
>
Q-Toons
Quilt designs to tickle your funnybone!
Judith@qtoons.com
http//www.qtoons.com
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 085021 EST
FromCToczek@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
SubjectQHLweb and mags
Message-ID74851876.36fa3f1d@aol.com
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Jean and others, I love the web and the fact I can learn, surf and shop across
the nation…and the world, but I wouldn’t trade my noon break with newspaper,
book or quilt magazines for anything in the world. The tactile sense of
holding those articles at my leisure is as pleasurable as my quilting time.
With DH, I am encouraging computer literacy with my two young boys, but I
hope, as well, to instill in them a love of the printed word and the quiet
moments of reading.
Even though it seems I’m in the minority (quilt worldwide) that wishes to
see more variety in the pattern magazines, I keep buying them. I guess I’m
fostering that circle of non-publishing, huh?
Best to you all,
Carla
West Point, NY
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 092245 -0600
FromDSefton@kcstar.com
Hi quilters, Dru from KC here. Saw this on the Associated Press wire and
thought it might be of interest.
{Cabin Creek Quilts fights catalog retailer Orvis over name}<
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) _ It is the apparel world’s version of the big guy
and the small
fry.<
The small quilting cooperative, Cabin Creek Quilts, has been here before,
defending its turf in
successful fights with Wal-Mart and the Smithsonian Institution.<
Now the Appalachian group is battling Orvis Co. Inc., contending the
Manchester, Vt.-based
company improperly marketed a foreign-made quilt as a “Cabin Creek Quilt”
and “an Orvis
exclusive.”<
“We’re tired of this David-and-Goliath stuff,” co-op manager and
founder David Thibeault said
Wednesday. “They are playing fast and loose with our name, and we’re not
going to let them get away with it.”<
The cooperative has about 25 people actively working, and earns about
$350,000 a year. A
productive quilter can complete about one quilt a month.<
While Orvis was selling its quilt for $239 for a twin-bed size, handmade
Cabin Creek Quilts
made by West Virginians working out of their homes often run in the
thousand-dollar range.<
Orvis shipped out an estimated 20 million summer 1999 gift and clothing
catalogs advertising
its quilt, and Thibeault said the cooperative wants Orvis to print a
half-page clarification in its
next catalog.<
An Orvis spokesman said the company made “an honest mistake” and has
removed the
offending article from its Internet order site.<
The co-op has fought repeatedly to protect its name since its founding in
- Its aggressive
approach persuaded Wal-Mart to stop using the “Cobble Creek Quilts” name
on machine-made
quilts from China.<
The Smithsonian later made a deal with Cabin Creek to reproduce a
Smithsonian design and
sell it through Lands’ End after a fight over quilting patterns.<
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 151922 -0000
From”Sally Ward” sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk
Buying American quilting books in (or from) the UK is fraught with
problems. Not in terms of actually buying – on-line that is easy. But
rather, judging whether what you are looking at is worthwhile. This is
an occasion when you really do have to judge a book by its cover.
Without actually handling a book, it is very hard to know what the
content will be. I did well when I bought Eileen Trestrain’s Dating
Fabrics (heard about through QHL), but wasted just as much money on
Hidden in Plain View (didn’t wait for the QHL opinion and should have
done!).
I have burnt out on buying ‘pattern’ books, but I am fascinated by
textile history and heritage. I have the feeling that there are certain
books which are ‘standard issue’ to many of you for whom quilt study is
a way of life. I would love to know some recommendations of those books
which have been around long enough for you all to ‘take them for
granted’. 20
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 102649 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net
Dru, and all,
It’s a good thing my DH is not here to see this post. As a former Orvis
employee, he ( and I) can assure you that the Perkins (that own Orvis) made
no mistake what so ever! and BTW, there is no such thing as an “Orvis
Exclusive” check out any of the other mail order catalogs and you’ll find
that shortly after the Orvis catalog is on the market, the same item will
appear in so many others. It’s a shame that they have let such a once
lofty and truely admired company sink to such low levels. It’s the matter
of the all might dollar and not quality and service any more. If you’ve
been in one of their stores lately you’ll see the same thing that happened
to Cloth World when JoAnn’s bought them out…..just an upscale ($$ that
is, not quality) Spencers Gifts!
Orvis did introduce me to the wonderful world of flyfishing, but I’ll never
set foot in their stores again!
I’ll get off my soap box now!
BTW….anyone want to buy a couple of Orvis flyrods?????
Laura
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 120352 +0000
FromBobbie Aug qwltpro@uswest.net
I also feel that this trend applies to department stores vs small specialty shops,
grocery stores vs meat markets, auto parts stores that not only sell you the tires, but
put them on, fix your brakes and install new mufflers.
Bobbie Aug
SaraLMcN@aol.com wrote
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 204302 -0800
FromAudrey Waite awquiltr@sedona.net
Maybe we should start a letter writing campaign to protest Orvis using
the name of Cabin Creek Quilts in advertising its foreign-made quilts.
If anyone has the address, I’d be happy to fire off an angry consumer
letter. I don’t buy the “honest mistake” excuse.
Audrey Waite in sunny
Sedona, AZ
DateThu, 25 Mar 1999 224501 -0800
From”Anne Copeland” anneappraiser@mailcity.com
–I have several issues I need help with.
I live in Lomita, CA, and I have a number of antique quilts. Recently it has been around 80% humidity, and I am quite concerned about my quilts as I have realized that some feel damp to me. I am almost tempted to take them to the laundermat and put them in a dryer as they just don’t seem to be drying out no matter what I do. Then I know it is a bad thing, but I have thought about putting the dried quilts in plastic boxes or something to protect them from further moisture. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?
And also, I am doing some experiments with homemade dyeing. I found some large seed pods from a tree that have the texture and color of dark nut pods, but these seeds are not edible. They come in 3s or more on a stem, and fall off in the street. I have put some in cold water to see what degree of color comes off from just soaking. Next I will try boiling. I want to dye a little piece of muslin as an experiment. Who knows what mordant I should use, and how much of it to treat a piece 1 yard or less?
Thank you so much for your help, Anne Copeland
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 072820 +0000
From”Debora C. Wykes” wykesfcn@tdi.net
To QHL list
I am an avid reader of QHL–I’ve learned so much by reading the posts every
morning. I thought that I could get some feedback on a project I am
planning with children.
After Easter vacation I will be taking over as a fourth grade teacher of a
class that has lost their teacher to a job change. This is a much loved
teacher who has taught at this small elementary school for over 25 years.
The kids cried when they heard she was leaving. She is staying in the
school district, however.
I would like to do a memory quilt project with these 10 yr. old 4th graders
to present to her sometime before school ends June 18th. I want them to
plan most of it, do the artwork (a square a piece done in fabric crayons,
fabric paint, or ?) plan (measure and plot) the border and backing and put
it all together. AND -because as much learning has to take place here- do
a scrapbook/journal of the experience and -if I can talk the technology
teacher into it -do a website of the experience. I also thought I could
have them research memory quilts, at least on the internet or see a picture
of the AIDS quilt project or something like that.
Has anyone else done a project like this? Am I crazy? What works and what
doesn’t? I have alot of faith in kids and this seems like a good class of
cooperative kids-I’d like them to be able to honor their teacher, yet know
they are part of the vast history of doing so by a quilt. Math (planning
the quilt), art, technology, history, social studies, english and writing
are all involved here that I can see.
My questions what media can you suggest that the kids could use to make
their own squares? Any websites on the subject (outside of the regular
quilting websites)? Any encouraging words? This is still an unapproved
project, I haven’t talked to the art teacher or tech. teacher or anyone
else, it’s just an idea in my brain right now.
Thanks in advance. Feel free to email me privately if your post is long.
Debbie in Monroe, MI
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 084129 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
NO! Don’t put a damp quilt in a plastic box. Instead, look into de-
humidifiers for your storage spot. There are chemicals in buckets that you
can just put in a closet, and they’ll absorb the moisture. You then bake the
goop to dry it back out, and re-use. I’ve also seen, but haven’t tried, little
low-voltage electrical thingies. They look kinda like an aquarium heater. I
think they’re in the “Home Improvements” catalog (which also sells the
absorbent goop). Or try your local hardware store.
Another thought is, if you’ve got an entire roomful, get a window air-
conditioner. Even if you run it at not-very-cold, it dehumidifies.
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 090216 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
I’ve done group quilts with young kids. It’s a wonderful group project.
A few thoughts There are slack spots where some kids are done with a
particular step, or waiting their turn, so have stuff on hand to fill their
time. I take plenty of quilt books along, so the kids can look thru them. The
larger, quilt-history books are best for this, more of a catalog of pictures
than a heavy-duty how-to book. The most popular ones, however, are the books
of story quilts or pictoral modern ones. I forgot that one of my modern quilt
books included a few nudes. The boys LOVED that! And man, they studied the
rest of that book like hawks. hee hee.
I took advantage of an accident with my dog. Brought along a lap quilt that
the dog had chewed, so they could see how the batting, top and backing all fit
together. Thanks to BJ, one edge was a perfect cross-section. (Only reason the
dog’s alive is 1, he’s cute, and 2, it was just a scrap lap quilt I threw
together in a weekend.)
I cut the fabric into squares about 2″ larger than the actual cut size, and
pre-drew both the inside square lines and the outside cutting lines. I learned
the hard way you can’t just ask them to imagine the inside line…they’ll
color right up to the edge of whatever you draw. Then they taped the squares
to pieces of shirt cardboard, and used fabric markers to draw. (the markers
are expensive…I still have a full set not in use. I can loan them by
mail…postage, even both ways, is much cheaper than buying a full set). Then
they can cut out the squares on the cutting line. Use large seam allowances,
of course, for margin of error. I did 4″ finished size with 1/2″ seams. So
they worked with 6″ squares that they then cut down to 5″.
If these are elementary kids, they’re not going to have too much patience for
designing the mechanics of it all. You might pre-cut several different colors
of border, and let them choose which they want, give them choices of colors
for the dark squares, let them choose if the finished quilt’ll be square or
rectangular, etc.
For design, tape an old flannel sheet (thrift store!) to the wall, and have
them stick up the squares. I alternated 4″ squares, plain dark with decorated
light. Perhaps bring a selection of precut darks in various colors that would
coordinate, and have them play with arranging those as the color scheme.
(Precut them large, and let the kids cut them down into sewing size, as with
the decorated ones.)
I brought my machine to class, and sewed the squares into horizontal strips,
which they then pinned back up on the flannel to see it take shape. If there’s
time, you can then join the strips, or do that overnight. While I was sewing,
they really enjoyed being in charge of bringing me the squares, one by one, in
correct order.
Good luck!
Aline
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 101300 EST
FromQuiltFixer@aol.com
As soon as I have a nice warm day in spring, I start airing my quilts. I have
two wooden old fashioned clothes dryers and I put clean sheets on them and I
put a quilt over to air. I put them outside, but not in the sun. This seems
to work well and then I put them in clean pillowcases. I try to rotate my
quilts throughout the house in the winter so that they get good air exposure.
Some on beds, some hanging, and some on my quilt rack. I would not advise
putting quilts in plastic boxes or bags. You may want to store in acid free
boxes, but I would still take them out from time to time. Toni Baumgard
QuiltFixer@aol.com
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 102204 EST
FromPalampore@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
Three or four years ago I went to Fabric Camp done by Barbara Brackman and
Terry Thompson in Lawrence, KS . For a week our group of 7 students were
immersed in the study of antique textiles and quilts. We had a wonderful time
and left there great buddies. That was also when Barbara was working on the
CW quilt book and several of our group members made quilts for the book. Upon
leaving we decided that we wanted to keep in touch, so we began a round-robin
letter/package. Now about every 9 or 10 months I get a wonderful big envelope
stuffed with 7 plastic gallon baggies and in each is a letter, pictures of
wonderful quilts seen & or made over the year, and maybe a few pieces of a
neat piece of cloth to share from each member.
Last year one of the envelopes contained a picture of a memory quilt in memory
of John Denver made by the 4th or 5th (?) grade class of Jeananne Wright of
Colo. They had made a wonderful quilt and then had an evening to celebrate
his life and music. It has since traveled to many locations and the Denver
Family apparently feels very special about this quilt. Now this year this
creative and talented teacher has come up with another great idea. They are
making a Homerun Quilt as a tribute to baseball and are getting lots of the
blocks signed by famous ball players known for their homerun history.
Jeananne will be retiring soon and I know she will be missed greatly for she
is a great testimony to what teaching should be all about!!! If any of you
want to get in touch with her please email me privately.
Now on to another subject—– This week I saw a quilt at the local
historical society and I am very curious about it. It was a quilt made up of
applique blocks about 16-18 inches in size. All of the blocks were the same.
The background was an off-white cotton. Appliqued to each was an eight
pointed star in the center made of turkey red fabric. It was a radiating star
not a block style star. Above and below was a heart made of orange cotton,
but each one had the bottom tip of the heart squared off. In the four corners
was a cross on the diagonal made of green calico. Was this symbolic of some
group? I haven’t had time to sit and look thru all of my books, but I hope to
over the weekend. The blocks were framed/sashed with a bright pink and white
tiny check fabric. The borders were in turkey red. It was outlined quilted
and had a loftier batting than that age fabric quilt would normally have.
Thanks in advance for any input on this…….
Lynn Lancaster Gorges in rainy yucky cold New Bern, NC (Spring keeps coming
and teasing us and then leaves!)
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 102654 -0500
FromMargaret Wolff hrtworks@telenet.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com
to all old sewing machine aficionados,
There is a book available, “Sewing Machine Blue Book” which can be used
to date machines. I have one, and it lists most machines by model number,
gives a very brief description of the features and
lists value. The values are very low, since few machines have much
monetary value, other than the collectors models.I mean really low,
$6,$10,$20.If you have the book for your old White, look up the model
number and I’ll try to give you a value from this book.
Margaret
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 075132 -0800
From”Julia D. Zgliniec” rzglini1@san.rr.com
Dear Anne and All,
Where I live, near San Diego and about 10 miles inland, moisture is not
much of a problem. But this is what I do.
Sprinkled about the drawers and cupboards where I keep my collections of
lace, fabric etc., are the desiccant packets that come in medication
containers, luggage, and purses. Whenever I purchase something that has
one of those, I save it and use it in the drawers and closets. the
hanging quilts don’t seem to need them. It is simple, cheap and no
stress on the textile.
I believe one could make their own with silica gel that is sold for
drying flowers.
Dyes, there are many books on “natural dying” and there is a “dyers
list” I just read about in my newest issue of “Spin Off “. They could
answer your questions. I can’t find it at the moment but you could
probably locate it through Susan Druding’s page at the Mining Co.
Regards,
Julia
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 110821 -0500 (EST)
From”Joanna E. Evans” jevans@bluemarble.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com
Please join us for the Second Annual QHL Dinner in Paducah.
6pm on Thursday, April 22
We have a reservation at the Pines Restaurant at 900 N 32nd Street in
Paducah. Their phone number for directions is 502-442-9304, or look them up
on smartpages.com and you can print out a map that shows their location. We
have a big long table reserved. That’s not ideal, but their round tables
only seat six. Let me know if you would prefer to have a couple of those,
and I’ll request them.
If you won’t have a car, let me know and I’ll try to hook you up with
someone who is willing to help out. Similarly, if you don’t mind giving
someone a lift, please let me know in your email.
Please RSVP to me by emailing me privately so I can give them a final
headcount.
Thanks to Barbara Woodford for her thoughts and assistance.
Hope to see lots of you in Paducah.
Joanna Evans (jevans@bluemarble.net)
Bloomington, IN
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 075056 -0400
FromLorraine Olsson sven@pnc.com.au
Thank you Judith for your research and thank you to every one else who
had good ideas about dating the sewing machines.
One more triumph for the group o}}
Lorraine in Oz
Judith Brainerd wrote
>
Lorraine, your machine is a Family Vibrater and the date is 1917. I
called the White Company at 1-800-446-2333 (or 216-252-3300). Ü
>
Judith B
Olympia WA
>
>
DateFri, 26 Mar 1999 200308 -0500
From”John Cawley” cawley@goeaston.net
I’m back online, now in Easton, MD. I’ve really missed QHL. It’s =
lovely here. I’ve joined the Bayside Quilters. I’ll be back and forth =
between here and Scranton until I get my life sorted out. Can anybody =
fill me in on the quilt world of the Eastern Shore and surroundings. =
Thanks.
Cinda
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 122114 EST
FromPennstudd@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
Have been reading the daily posts for about a month now, and have learned more
from the posts than any book could ever teach me. A great book that I got at
Barnes and Nobles about fabric and their dyes is called “The Art Of Dyeing”
and is amazing. I though about dyeing a bunch of fabric for my next quilt so,
I got some of the cakes from K Mart and used the washing machine version well,
I sleep on the couch for the next week. I seemed to have forgotten to rinse
the dye from my last batch of reds and my wife threw in my daughters school
uniforms and turned them all wonderful shades of red and pink. Oh Well, I told
her it could have been worse. Bill
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 111743 -0800 (PST)
FromElaine Baglo elainb@pinc.com
Did anyone pick up the newest Mary Englebreit Home Companion magazine yet?
In the most recent issue, there is an informative article about feedsacks
and our own Jane of the Feedsack Club. If you haven’t seen this magazine
yet, it’s a really nice one and well worth a look at especially if you’re
interested in quilts, artists and antiques.
Elaine
elainb@pinc.com
Victoria, B.C., Canada
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 185245 EST
FromJBQUILTOK@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
In a message dated 3/23/99 51135 PM Central Standard Time, SaraLMcN@aol.com
writes
<< Another thing that I have noticed and after talking to other vendors is the
smaller number of historical / reference books being published with not many
in the works. I think as we continue to see the changes in spending occur in
the quilting market that there will be a focus on books, etc., that appeal to
the largest group. >>
One problem I have with quilt books is the way the price has gone up & up.
The history books seem to be more expensive than the pattern books. While I
fully realize they are well worth the extra money, I often have a hard time
justifying spending it. I’m fortunate to have a guild that stocks 2 libraries
- one for history & one for techniques & patterns. So, while I may drool when
I read about the newest history book coming out, when faced with it on a shelf
at $30+ I usually tell myself I’ll get it another day when there’s more left
from the paycheck.
Maybe we should push to get quilt history books stocked in our local
libraries. Those I do own give a much better insight into daily lives over
the last 100+ years than the who-bombed-who books that are ‘history’ in a lot
of libraries.
Janet
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 164308 -0800
If you have the book for your old White, look up the model
number and I’ll try to give you a value from this book.
Margaret, my White is a 1935 “Crinkle” Rotary treadle. It’s the 33X
series. Does your blue book have it? When I called the White Company
to find out the year, they had trouble finding this particular machine
in their book.
Thanks!
Judith B
Olympia WA
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 212124 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
Toqhl@cuenet.com
Oh my, it feels good to be sitting down after two days at the Dallas quilt
show. I don’t want to talk about my knees or my wallet.
But I did find a gorgeous set of late 1800s blocksan unusual setting of
pieced stars with all my favorites of doublepinks, mourning prints, an only
half-faded purple, and a large intact madder print. They’re in the sink in
Textile Soak, with me biting my nails and agitating them about one-half stir
per hour.
I noticed on back of one square, “GM” in inch-high letters on the plain white
muslin. It appears to be stamped or printed, not written. Letters are blocky,
sans-serif, like this
GM
Anyone got any ideas? Please, no car jokes. And that includes Gremlins.
Aline
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 224530 -0500
FromAlan Kelchner quiltfix@mail.jax.bellsouth.net
If I was reading properly, there’s another guy on the list !! I’ll be
damned. Welcome, Bill, welcome !
Alan
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 222749 -0600
From”Peggy McBride” jlmpam@netins.net
I suggested to our local library that some quilt history would be of
interest and was told, rather shortly I might add, they they weren’t
interested in adding quilt history books, even when I offered to contribute
a couple of books one being Quilts in America. So I went on my way, and
just add the books to my personal library. The funny part is, several
months later the library called and asked if I would be interested in
loaning my personal books to someone. I said I would have to think about
it. I am still thinking.
(actually the answer is no – DH says he doesn’t care what I spend on books,
but I am not lending books)
Peggy in Iowa
DateSat, 27 Mar 1999 235931 -0500
From”rainbo” joandana@graham.main.nc.us
I am a new quilter and i have a basic question…i have not had any lessons,
but just started putting together scraps then sandwiching some batting
between that and the backing (whatever turns up) . when I started trying to
quilt on the machine the backing puckers. what should i do to correct this?
joan
DateSun, 28 Mar 1999 120755 +0100
From”Sally Ward” sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk
Thanks to everyone who offered an opinion on whether or not to remove
papers
for examination. The quilt in question is a real puzzler with no
provenance
and no parallels, but alas is not my own to do with as I wish. The
present
custodians will not touch anything, so the papers stay frustratingly out
of
reach. What I wanted was an ‘expert’ opinion on the right thing to do,
and
it seems most of you would go for taking a look. Maybe one day I can
use
those opinions to get my way!
Sally in UK
Sally
DateSun, 28 Mar 1999 064519 EST
FromBaglady111@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I would like to thank ELAINE of VICTORIA..a city where I will be heading in
Sept..for mentioning the article in ME’s HOME COMPANION..It has been a HUGH
success for snail mail, email, and phone calls..UNBELIEVABLE the amount of
home makers who want to decorate with feedsacks. Those with country homes are
hot for them..so my past few weeks have been spent decorating and supplying
feedsacks for curtains and kitchen accessories.it’s really funny because it is
a room that I have little associaton with today..I wondered A KITCHEN????
WHICH ROOM WOULD THAT BE??
I think the overwhelming response has been the fact that many, many magazines,
newspapers, periodicals have written about THE FEEDSACK CLUB.but this is the
first magazine that is NOT dedicated to quilt or quilters..it covers soooo
many other interests and talents..We owe them a big THANK YOU for the
opportunity to have done their interiew..hope you enjoy it when you read your
copy..Thanx, Elaine..
DateSun, 28 Mar 1999 093456 -0500 (EST)
Fromquiltsnbears@webtv.net (Roberta Geanangel)
Tojlmpam@netins.net (Peggy McBride)
One way to get your library interested in the books is to volunteer to
do an exhibit. It’s simple, just put a few quilts in a glass case
(locked) which most libraries own, and put some books on the quilts. You
can open the books or leave them closed. Arrange everything in an
eye-catching manner.Be sure to check out insurance first.You’ll be
surprised how many people will ask if those books are available from the
library. It shows the librarians that people really are interested.
Libraries operate on tight budgets most of the time, they have to
purchase books that will circulate. You can do this in a local
historical society building also. Just remember to “stack the deck” and
send all your friends in to ask for the books!
I’ve never known a library to turn down a free exhibit,except for a few
big city ones.
Roberta
DateSun, 28 Mar 99 175325 PST
From”dhaynes5″ dhaynes5@rmi.net
Being a person who has lost several books, I agree with you husband about no lending with a qualifier. I only lend my books to my quilting friends I have known for years and see on a regular basis. They are just too expensive to replace.
DeAnna in beautiful Colorado
dhaynes5@rmi.com
I suggested to our local library that some quilt history would be of
interest and was told, rather shortly I might add, they they weren’t
interested in adding quilt history books, even when I offered to contribute
a couple of books one being Quilts in America. So I went on my way, and
just add the books to my personal library. The funny part is, several
months later the library called and asked if I would be interested in
loaning my personal books to someone. I said I would have to think about
it. I am still thinking.
(actually the answer is no – DH says he doesn’t care what I spend on books,
but I am not lending books)
>
Peggy in Iowa
>
DateSun, 28 Mar 1999 171012 -0800
From”Norma I. Herbold” normah@olypen.com
I am in the market for a new sewing machine. I have looked at the
following
Elna, Quilter’s Dream
Bernina, 140, 150 and 160
Pfaff, 2020, 7530, 6270
I would appreciate any comments, positive or negative, regarding these
machines. Please respond to my email, normah@olypen.com
Thank you. (I really do need a new machine and it is a lot of $$$…I’d
like to make my decision based on knowledge, not because the bobbin
beeps…or I like the knee lift. all comments would really help)
Norma Herbold
Greenhaven Enterprises
Quilt Retreats on the Olympic Peninsula
http//www.olypen.com/normah
DateSun, 28 Mar 1999 191350 -0500
From”John Cawley” cawley@goeaston.net
To”QHL” QHL@cuenet.com
I’m really excited about the proximity of our new home to D.C.
Today we went to see the John Singer Sargent exhibit at the National
Gallery. All I can say is God bless Andrew Mellon! I love that place.
The exhibit is wonderful; it goes to Boston next and that’s it.
One of my many rules is never to be in D.C. without running into the
DAR. Here’s what I found in half an hour today. The DAR has sent 50 of
its quilts to Japan. There is a gorgeous catalogue ($24.00); problem
is it’s only in Japanese except for the captions. I bought it anyway ;
it’s of the quality I expect from Japanese color productions. There’s
no ISBN # I can find but you could call the DAR at 202-879-3241.
Checking out the pictures as John drove home I noticed fan quilting on a
1815-1825 chintz quilt; I’d seen it on contemporaneous quilts in the
Calico and Chintz exhibit. We used to think of the fan as an indication
of late 19th century. Is there such a thing as a safe generalization
about quilts (I’m beginning to think not)?
The lady in the gift shop told me that they (DAR) are planning a
quilt exhibit starting in October of 1999; she thought there would be
about 20 quilts.20
What I saw today was a nifty little exhibit about Martha Washington
comparing objects of her time with Colonial Revival reproductions. For
instance, they had a dress and quilted petticoat c. 1780 next to an
outfit made for the docents at Mt. Vernon to celebrate the bicentennial
of G.W.’s birth in 1932; they were very different. I learned that the
ruffles at sleeve and neck in the 18th century were always white.
They had examples of the work tables known as Martha Washington from the
18th and 20th century. There were two hexagon quilts hanging together.
One was a glorious chintz c. 1830 looking brand new (I could have spent
the whole time looking at that–one of the great things about the DAR
museum is that you can get very close to the quilts which are usually
displayed in full in enormous cases. You don’t see the back, but we
can’t have everything.). The other was a pretty little Depression Era
example. The pattern was called Martha Washington’s Garden as well as
the more familiar Grandmothers Flower Garden. There was a wonderful
framed medallion quilt top lent by the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Assoc. It
was in the house when Martha died and her granddaughter bought it from
the estate. It looks just like the framed medallion quilts we see in
the books on British quilts–we didn’t rebel against style.
Here’s a little bit of info which should warm all of our hearts.
They have a chair seat (one of a set of 12 which Martha needlepointed
for the dining room at Mt. V.) in a lovely seashell design in shades of
gold. The wool and canvas for the project were ordered in 1766; Martha
finished the last chair shortly before her death in 1802. 36 years with
a UFO prove that Martha was no different that any other quilter.
Certainly makes her seem a lot more human to me.
Cinda on the Eastern Shore
DateSun, 28 Mar 1999 224838 -0800
FromAudrey Waite awquiltr@sedona.net
Saw in the April COUNTRY LIVING magazine that the People’s Place Quilt
Museum located on the 2nd floor of the Old Country Store in Intercourse,
PA will be exhibiting late 19th to early 20th century “Quilts from Two
ValleysAmish Quilts from the Big Valley, Mennonite Quilts from the
Shenandoah Valley”. More information available from the museum at
1-800-828-8218. The exhibit showcases bold, graphic Amish quilts from
Pennsylvania’s Mifflin County alongside more subdued Mennonite quilts
from the Shenandoah Valley so that you can compare the two styles. The
exhibit runs from April 1 through October 30.
Wonder if Cinda will make it all the way from the eastern shore of MD?
Since my ancestors were in Mifflin County in the 1770s I wish I could
see this exhibit.
Audrey
awquiltr@sedona.net
http//www.quiltcamp.com
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 013902 -0500
From”rainbo” joandana@graham.main.nc.us
thanks to all who have answered my beginner questions – you are very
kind to take the time for a newcomer…
joan
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 080624 -0500
FromMaureen Flaherty sphmxf@mail.gwumc.edu
I am an official lurker but I love feedsacks so I have to come out and ask a question. Where does one fine Mary Englebreit Home Companion magazine?
Thanks and back to lurkdom (that wasn’t so bad!)
Maureen in sunny, springy Washington DC
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 083637 -0600
From”Kris Driessen, Hickory Hill Quilts” oldquilt@albany.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I am having a lot of QHL moments! Yesterday, while going through my Simply
Quilts tapes for my Japanese quilting intern, I ran across the episode Jane
Clark Stapel filmed. I am ashamed to admit I taped it without watching
it-(( She talked quite a bit about how feedsacks were used in quilts,
which I knew, but I did not realize that some sacks were actually printed
in cheaters cloth! She had some very interesting examples for the show.
Has anyone ever seen one of these cheater cloth sacks made into a quilt?
I was also delighted at the way she dropped QHL names. Joan Stevens
(American Doodah) and Barb Garrett were mentioned specifically. Barb, if
anyone doesn’t know, is very knowledgeable on southeast PA quilts. She
gave a great talk at last years Feedsack convention that really taught me a
lot. I know she is not doing it again this year, but I am pretty sure she
will be doing something. Anyone who is going to this years convention
(April 8 – 10 in Lancaster PA) should bring a copy of issue 40 of Miniature
Quilts Magazine for her to autograph. They did an article on her doll
quilts and even gave the pattern for one of them.
Speaking of articles, anyone who is in the Albany NY area should track down
a copy of yesterdays Gazzette. There is a front section article on Cathy
Hooley and one of her quilts. I was really impressed. Her web page is
at http//www.albany.net/~gooset/ but the picture isn’t there-(( Quite a
few pictures of her other quilts, though. Cathy specializes in
reproduction quilts.
I will be bringing my intern to the Feedsack conference, please stop at our
booth and see us!
Kris
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 093002 -0700
FromEileen Trestain ejtrestain@earthlink.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I have a large library of my own on historic textiles, thier production,
and state history quilt books. In Dallas, I could check out the local
public library for historic books. I was amazed to find an original
Quilts In America, and astounded when they let me check it out and carry
it out of the library when it was out of print, and worth about $500.
When I got here, and AQS wanted me to footnote all the text for my book,
I was flabbergasted to find the local county library, in the middle of
cotton country, had absolutely NO books on the history of textile
production, and not one quilt history book or state project book. Since
then, when I have seen a book about textile history I want, I buy it for
myself. I know the library will NOT have it. Perhaps, when I die, they
will be the ones who recieve my entire collection, as they sure need
something. On the other hand, maybe I should send it off to the Glendale
Community College, where there is at least a textile and clothing design
department. I only loan my books to one or two specific very close
friends. Many of my books are out of print, or a very specific type. The
romance of French weaving…Cotton cardiing…good stuff like that.
Next subject, a photocopy of the papers used in piecing are enough to
have an interesting look. I tell people to remove the papers in the
string pieced and hexagons from the late 1800’s and early 1900’s.
However, I just bought some gorgeous hexagon blocks that I fell in love
with at first sight, which have the papers still basted in. One of the
papers has a date of 1825, but not enough text is there to tell if it is
a letter from then or not. I WON’T be removing those papers. I Will be
bringing them to teach with in Paducah. ( I also dream I can make it to
dinner with you all there to put faces to names.)
Eileen
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 091534 -0800
From”Norma I. Herbold” normah@olypen.com
Dear Quilters,
Your responce to my query has been outstanding. I am in the process of
studying your comments and will summarize the results for the group.
Did it clear up any confusion in my mind? Not necessarily. But as Diana
said, “You ask, you get”.
I’m teaching today…results should be ready sometime tomorrow if anyone else
wants to throw their two cents in.
Thank you to all who responded.
Norma Herbold
Greenhaven Enterprises
Quilt Retreats on the Olympic Peninsula
http//www.olypen.com/normah
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 134342 -0500
From”John Cawley” cawley@goeaston.net
I’ll be in Lancaster for Quilters Heritage the week after Easter and will
certainly get to the Peoples Place. Mifflin Co. Amish quilts are really
interesting, very different from Lancaster Co.
Cinda who may be on the Eastern Shore but still has a car!
—–Original Message—–
FromAudrey Waite awquiltr@sedona.net
ToQHL@cuenet.com QHL@cuenet.com
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 121912 -0800
FromDebra Roby debroby@earthlink.net
ToQuiltNet QUILTNET@LSV.UKY.EDU
Have to share the results of a product I just tried this weekend
Steam-A-Seam II. It’s a fusible web product that before it is fused,
is slightly sticky on both sides. This product come with paper backing
on both sides of the web.
Because of this genius design, you can
a. trace a pattern onto one of the products 2 paper backings.
b. rough cut out the pattern.
c. remove the other piece backing paper, and stick the pattern onto
the wrong side of the fabric.
d. cut out the pattern neatly from the fusible web and fabric at the
same time.
e. remove the remaining piece of paper and
f. stick the applique piece where you want it to go.
Something not fitting just right? Just pull the fabric up, adjust as
you want and stick it back down.
I am working on a wallhanging for a friendLLAMA MAMA. It’s roughly
based on a shepherd and her flockpattern by Jenni Dobson. My flock,
however, is llamas not sheep. The woman in this design has 2 boots,
bloomers, a dress, a blouse (that starts under the dress and ends over
the dress), 2 hands, a sheperd’s crook, a face, hair, and hat and a hat
band.
I managed to cut out and position all these pieces on the background
fabric in less than a half hour. And it was easy to make sure they all
fit together right. I don’t want to think what a nightmare this would
have been with a more traditional method of applique. Even with the
heat-n-bond, there would have been no guarenteed way of making sure that
pieces didn’t slip or shift while working on them.
I cut all the applique pieces for this wallhanging out less than an
hour, laid it out, HUNG IT UP to judge the placement, decided to add
another llama and rearrange the ones I had. And only then did I fuse the
pieces together. I really like the way this worked.
Will spend the rest of the week stitching in details and stitching down
the edges of the pieces. But this experience was so fast, fun and
hassle-free that I had to share it with my friends.
BTW, I believe JoAnne’s is having a sale on their notions wall, soon??
Would be a perfect time to pick up another package. (no affiliation,
just joyfully pleased with the results.).
deb roby
hercules, ca.
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 154800 -0600
FromJocelyn jocelynm@sw1.socwel.ukans.edu
Paper money – According to the Federal Reserve Bank of
Atlanta’s web site, US currency is printed on cotton and
linen rag paper. So we could use paper moeny for paper
piecing and not have to worry about the acid content.
Well, it’s good to have THAT worry out of the way!
My first thought was, I bet no one has ever done that. Then I
thought about Confederate money…after the War, but before it was
worth something. Has anyone ever seen a quilt that used
Confederate money for paper-piecing?
Jocelyn
Jocelynm@delphi.com
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 160018 -0600
FromJocelyn jocelynm@sw1.socwel.ukans.edu
>
Being a person who has lost several books, I agree with you husband about
no lending with a qualifier. I only lend my books to my quilting friends
I have known for years and see on a regular basis
But, as Roger Zelazny said, ‘No one steals your books but your
friends.’
Jocelyn
Jocelynm@delphi.com
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 183527 -0300
Fromsusan silva woody@ior.com
Greetings!
Have a problem and I’m hoping that you all can help. I looked at this
quilt today, blue and white, blue is solid navy and white is muslin
like. Tons of quilting and flying geese around perimeter. Very well done
but the batting has migrated in some spots and on the back (which is
solid blue) there is fuzzy stuff, like batting coming thru. When I
pulled it you could see if coming from the inside. I think this quilt is
about 1920’s and believe that the fuzzy stuff is wool batting. How can I
tell if it is poly or wool? Also is there any way to stop the fuzzy
migration of the batting? Thanks for your help. I know someone out there
can assist.
Sincerely,
Susan C. Silva in Sunny Spokane
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 204702 -0600
FromKAREN BUSH Birdsong@worldnet.att.net
Hi ya’ll!!! And WELCOME Bill!! are you still sleeping on the Couch??
haha…WHAT cakes of dye?? I always used Rit when I was just playing
around with the dyes, ran out of Procion…so, is this a new dye on the
market ? See, Alan, you have a ‘soul’ mate! Another Male species!!
I can’t type much yet,..yeah, RIGHT! haha…but, I wondered if there
are any handquilters out there that I can refer my ‘customers’ to that
are still calling. I had to ‘close up shop’ as of a week ago, and I feel
like there’s Some hand quilters out there that I could refer these
people to..?? If so, please e-mail me privately, and I’ll have some info
for the ones that are calling and e-mailing.
It’s been kind of a bummer, but, had to be done. I’m trying to read the
digests, I’m way behind…again, still…so, I’ll end this now..canya
Believe it! It’s not l4 pages long this time! hahaha…(got a ‘time
limit’ on the keyboard) …( kb
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mailtoBirdsong@worldnet.att.net
DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 205033 -0600
FromKAREN BUSH Birdsong@worldnet.att.net
forgot…SEE,..thought you’d heard the last of me for a while, huh?
WELL…I was reading my Country Alamanc “Small Room Decorating” magazine
I just got yesterday, thoroughly enjoying the articles, and reading
about the ‘Iris” lady, and lo and behold…There in a mention of the
“friend of the interviewee” our own Debbie Kratovil! I’m Not gonna tell
ya what it says, either! Got to get your Own magazine! ))) kb
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mailtoBirdsong@worldnet.att.net
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DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 220038 EST
FromQuiltEvals@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.comt
In a message dated 3/29/99 65243 PM Pacific Standard Time, QHL-Digest-
request@cuenet.com writes
<< Has anyone ever seen one of these cheater cloth sacks made into a quilt? >>
Yes – have one, would you like a photo…don’t have one, but could take one.
Deb
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DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 211415 -0600
FromMary Waller <mswaller@iw.net>
ToQHL@cuenet.com
For the appraisers here, would you please comment on how the value is
affected when the quilt being appraised is a Native American Morning
Star (Lone Star) quilt being given or received as an honoring quilt? I
know there are no quick and easy formulas, but I may be asked to
appraise one soon.
Respond privately if you wish. Thanks.
Mary Waller, Vermillion, South Dakota
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DateMon, 29 Mar 1999 230319 -0600
FromKAREN BUSH <Birdsong@worldnet.att.net>
> well, now *I* have a question. More of a “poll”…I’m getting some
> classes set up to teach for this summer, and I’ve been asked by a fewhttps://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?guci=2.2.0.0.2.2.0.0&client=ca-pub-7894829842659178&output=html&h=280&adk=2723956906&adf=2848408690&pi=t.aa~a.3844871378~i.55~rp.4&w=1200&fwrn=4&fwrnh=100&lmt=1312160324&num_ads=1&rafmt=1&armr=3&sem=mc&pwprc=1795321837&psa=1&channel=2890770851&ad_type=text_image&format=1200×280&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F99089.htm&flash=0&fwr=0&pra=3&rh=200&rw=1719&rpe=1&resp_fmts=3&wgl=1&fa=27&tt_state=W3siaXNzdWVyT3JpZ2luIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9hZHNlcnZpY2UuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbSIsInN0YXRlIjowfSx7Imlzc3Vlck9yaWdpbiI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXR0ZXN0YXRpb24uYW5kcm9pZC5jb20iLCJzdGF0ZSI6MH1d&dt=1604703605866&bpp=7&bdt=2271&idt=7&shv=r20201104&cbv=r20190131&ptt=9&saldr=aa&abxe=1&cookie=ID%3D6f9084c9ff075121-2200a37b35c400e9%3AT%3D1603202495%3ART%3D1603202495%3AS%3DALNI_MbgWhA9zHCrqqyMVOiGHmJY9dFZkA&prev_fmts=160x600_as%2C0x0&nras=2&correlator=3763477207374&pv_ch=2890770851%2B&frm=20&pv=1&ga_vid=1283543617.1603202497&ga_sid=1604703604&ga_hid=1450070446&ga_fc=0&iag=0&icsg=35466&dssz=10&mdo=0&mso=0&u_tz=-300&u_his=1&u_java=0&u_h=1080&u_w=1920&u_ah=1040&u_aw=1920&u_cd=24&u_nplug=1&u_nmime=2&adx=444&ady=1163&biw=1903&bih=937&scr_x=0&scr_y=0&eid=44730557&oid=3&psts=AGkb-H-ihuNG0r7WG8bdF25fgSccbL1v9i-NkNPQnr2YC-4P6PHdOJMdkQ&pvsid=101012981358025&pem=49&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F1999.htm&rx=0&eae=0&fc=1408&brdim=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C937&vis=1&rsz=%7C%7Cs%7C&abl=NS&alvm=r20201103&fu=8320&bc=23&ifi=2&uci=a!2&btvi=1&fsb=1&xpc=7FMlTmLW9i&p=http%3A//quilthistory.com&dtd=M
> people, when I’m at the quilt shop, if they could bring in their tops to
> help them choose quilting desings for them.
> Well, I don’t know if this would be a good ‘class’ or not. The shop
> owner seems to think it would be, but, I’m putting myself in THEIR
> place…
> Would You pay for a class to help with the quilting design for your
> tops, and if so, how much would you be willing to Pay and for how long
> of a class/lesson?? I can’t imagine having one for over an hour, and
> that would have others in the class asking questions,too. I’ve thought
> about a ‘private’ consultation, but, I live in boonie town, 40 miles
> from the quilt shop, so, I can’t see people coming HERE for that…??
> you can e-mail me privately if you have any ideas on this, if you
> like…kb
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 013946 -0500
From”J. G. Row” <Judygrow@blast.net>
Use regular Crayola crayons .
First stabilize your fabric squares with freezer paper.
Have the kids do their drawings right on the fabric with the crayons.
Iron off the excess wax onto virgin newsprint.
Make up into your quilt.
The colors will be very pastel, rather than vibrant, but I am told they will
be permanent.
I think there is a book out on the subject now. I have never done it, but
one of our local quilt shops is running a class in doing quilts this way.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
>I would like to do a memory quilt project with these 10 yr. old 4th graders
>to present to her sometime before school ends June 18th. I want them tohttps://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?guci=2.2.0.0.2.2.0.0&client=ca-pub-7894829842659178&output=html&h=280&adk=2723956906&adf=1037174341&pi=t.aa~a.3844871378~i.113~rp.4&w=1200&fwrn=4&fwrnh=100&lmt=1312160324&num_ads=1&rafmt=1&armr=3&sem=mc&pwprc=1795321837&psa=1&channel=2890770851&ad_type=text_image&format=1200×280&url=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F99089.htm&flash=0&fwr=0&pra=3&rh=200&rw=1719&rpe=1&resp_fmts=3&wgl=1&fa=27&tt_state=W3siaXNzdWVyT3JpZ2luIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9hZHNlcnZpY2UuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbSIsInN0YXRlIjowfSx7Imlzc3Vlck9yaWdpbiI6Imh0dHBzOi8vYXR0ZXN0YXRpb24uYW5kcm9pZC5jb20iLCJzdGF0ZSI6MH1d&dt=1604703605959&bpp=4&bdt=2364&idt=4&shv=r20201104&cbv=r20190131&ptt=9&saldr=aa&abxe=1&cookie=ID%3D6f9084c9ff075121-2200a37b35c400e9%3AT%3D1603202495%3ART%3D1603202495%3AS%3DALNI_MbgWhA9zHCrqqyMVOiGHmJY9dFZkA&prev_fmts=160x600_as%2C0x0%2C1200x280%2C1200x280%2C1200x280&nras=5&correlator=3763477207374&pv_ch=2890770851%2B&frm=20&pv=1&ga_vid=1283543617.1603202497&ga_sid=1604703604&ga_hid=1450070446&ga_fc=0&iag=0&icsg=166538&dssz=11&mdo=0&mso=0&u_tz=-300&u_his=1&u_java=0&u_h=1080&u_w=1920&u_ah=1040&u_aw=1920&u_cd=24&u_nplug=1&u_nmime=2&adx=444&ady=3066&biw=1903&bih=937&scr_x=0&scr_y=0&eid=44730557&oid=3&psts=AGkb-H-ihuNG0r7WG8bdF25fgSccbL1v9i-NkNPQnr2YC-4P6PHdOJMdkQ&pvsid=101012981358025&pem=49&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fquilthistory.com%2F1999.htm&rx=0&eae=0&fc=1408&brdim=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1920%2C937&vis=1&rsz=%7C%7Cs%7C&abl=NS&alvm=r20201103&fu=8320&bc=23&ifi=5&uci=a!5&btvi=4&fsb=1&xpc=UvfI4juKyH&p=http%3A//quilthistory.com&dtd=M
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>fabric paint, or ?) plan (measure and plot) the border and backing and put
>it all together.
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 015328 -0500
From”J. G. Row” <Judygrow@blast.net>
Just got back from my bi-annual Texas visit, and am catching up on my mail,
quite late Monday night. I’ll post more tomorrow, but …
Before I hit the sack, I just wanted to mention a laundry tool I just found
out about. It is called Dye Magnet, by Carbona. It looks like a typical
white washcloth bordered with blue serging. But, throw it in the washer,
every load, and any excess dye, in anything you are washing, clothes or just
new yardage, will fix itself to the Dye Magnet, not to anything else in the
load. Friends of mine have said they have stopped using Retayne and/or
Synthrapol since finding this $4.99 tool at their local supermarket, or
K-Mart.
The neat thing is that you can reuse it for about 3 months, 3 or so loads a
week. The cloth turns a really grungy color after its first contact with
loose dye, but it still keeps working. I bought one, and now everyone in
the houshold has instructions to make sure it is included in every washload.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 075104 EST
FromBaglady111@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I want to thank Kris for her nice words re” my appearance on SIMPLY QUILTS..it
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yes, feedsacks come in cheater’s cloth..I am working on a wallhanging now and
POSSIBLY will bring it with me to our conference in LANCASTER, APRIL 8-9-10..
I have several pieces of cheaters,,they don’t stay in my inventory too
long..we think something is ‘NEW’ and find out..IT WAS DONE BEFORE..what is
that saying, NOTHING IS NEW EXCEPT TOMORROW..
I would like to mention also, MARY ENGELBGREIT’s HOME COMPANION had a small
article about THE FEEDSACK CLUB and the mail HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING!! I spend
ALOT of time shipping now.. This is the first mag that is not solely for
quilters & I find I am launched into being a kitchen decorator..they featured
a kitchen scene in the article..curtains, table cloth, napkins, etc…check it
out at your news stand..Young woman holding small child on cover..thanx again,
Kris..
Now…to find the kitchen!! Which room would that be???? Jane
http//members.aol.com/baglady111/
http//members.aol.com/lscms/feedsackclub/page1.html
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 081947 -0600
FromPhil & Lee Spanner <philspan@mail.win.bright.net>
Hello,
I am coming out of lurkdom to ask a question of the quilt historians
among us.
I am currently trying to reasearch victorian crazy quilting. I have been
able to find info regarding the types of fabrics used for the tops. The
threads and examples of the types of embroidery stitches used.
I have also been able to learn that these quilts were usually not
quilted. They were tied, and did not have a layer of batting in the
middle. However, I have not been able to find out what kind of fabrics
were used for the backs of these quilts.
Would also like to know how close to tie, and should the knot be on the
top of the quilt or the back. Also, is it ok to use embroidery floss, or
should another thread be used?
I would appreciate any help I could get. I have a small top I would like
to finish, and would like to make it authentic (even though the top is
not an antique).
Sincerely,
Lee “^)
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 080936 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>
My father did a project like this when he was 5 or 6 years old. We still
have it framed and on the wall. (he’s 74 now!)
Back in another life, before I started quilting I taught first grade. We
did several projects with this method and believe me, it *is* permanent.
Laura
At 0139 AM 3/30/99 -0500, you wrote
>Use regular Crayola crayons .
>
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 072209 -0600
FromLaura Hobby Syler <texas_quilt.co@mail.airmail.net>
Karen, Assisting your students decide what is an appropriate design to
quilt has always been one of the main time blocks in my hand quilting
class. I always invite my students to drag in the tops and projects that
they cant decide what to do with and we sort through all my stencils and
designs that I’ve collected over the past 20 years. I always go to the
shops stencil wall first (trying to make a sale for the shop owner who has
graciously permitted me to teach my class in his/her facility<G>) then I
allow the students to go though all my design collections. ( I had one
sutdent recently estimate that with all the stencils and patterns that I’ve
transfered to template plastic I have over 5,000 designs!)
I also allow them to copy anything that is no longer available on the open
market. There are some students that have taken the class 3-4 times and
stitch for only 15 minutes (just for me to see their method and offer
comments) then they spend the rest of the time digging through my designs.
My class is an all day…..start to finish , tools, batting, marking,stitch
and binding. We work on a 3/4 yd piece of muslin or * a project in
progress* if it’s a guild. that way those who don’t need another UFO don’t
have to create one.
My classes usually max out at the shops capacity. I’ve done it for guilds
and had as many as 45!!! Great fun, and I do get to see some wonderful
tops during our consultation time!
Go for it!
Laura
In drizzly damp N. Texas where it is supposed to be 84 on Thurs!!!
At 1103 PM 3/29/99 -0600, KAREN BUSH wrote
>> well, now *I* have a question. More of a “poll”…I’m getting some
>> classes set up to teach for this summer, and I’ve been asked by a few
>> people, when I’m at the quilt shop, if they could bring in their tops to
>> help them choose quilting desings for them.
>> Well, I don’t know if this would be a good ‘class’ or not. The shop
>> owner seems to think it would be, but, I’m putting myself in THEIR
>> place…
>> Would You pay for a class to help with the quilting design for your
>> tops, and if so, how much would you be willing to Pay and for how long
>> of a class/lesson?? I can’t imagine having one for over an hour, and
>> that would have others in the class asking questions,too. I’ve thought
>> about a ‘private’ consultation, but, I live in boonie town, 40 miles
>> from the quilt shop, so, I can’t see people coming HERE for that…??
>> you can e-mail me privately if you have any ideas on this, if you
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 174407 -0500
From”J. G. Row” <Judygrow@blast.net>
I returned from Dallas/FortWorth at midnight, last night, after a wonderful
4/5 days. I didn’t get to spend near enought time with my quiling friends
in Texas, but the few minutes we had to get together were just wonderful. A
quick huggy moment with Laura wan’t near enough time. One of the reasons we
couldn’t spend more time together was because of the Texas shopping
experience! We had to borrow a small suitcase from dear Mama to haul home
the books and textiles we just happened to pick up . I just wish that the
Texas Sales Tax was our low NJ 6%!
One thing I didn’t pick up, and wished I had had the courage (and $$$ for)
was a red and green applique quilt top. We saw this at the Antique Colony
at 7200 Camp Bowie Blvd,Fort Worth, 817-731-7252. Laura Syler, if you have
not gotten to this antique mall since our antiqueing trip to the Montgomery
Mall in July, you MUST make the effort this time!
This was only a top, but it was in primo condition except for one stain off
toward one edge that looked to me like ink that had leaked from a pen. It
had no other age spots that I could see. The urns and flowers were really
well drawn, unique I think, and the stuffed berries (lots of them!) were
perfect! The red was quite brilliant, still. I might have tried to bargain
the $600.00 price down if it hadn’t had one “little” problem — this red
and green on white quilt was in fact — red and cream on white!
The green had so totally vanished it was really hard to see that there had
ever been green. It wasn’t even tan! It had gone way beyond that! It just
made my heart weep, for the design and workmanship were finest quality.
Anyway, if you want to go see it, and weep with me, go to the Antique Colony
Antique Mall at the end of Camp Bowie in Fort Worth, on the circle. As you
walk in, the check-out counter is on your left. Turn left just past it, go
about 2 or three aisles, turn right and walk towards the back of the mall.
The booth that owns the quilt top is on the left side of one of those aisles
. The quilt is sem-folded, tied with a ribbon, and hanging at eye level.
Take your camera and a friend, or some tracing paper, neither of which I
had, and get a photo of the quilt top, and a tracing of the design, and send
both to me as my finder’s fee! Please! How I hope that someone I know, who
really loves this stuff, will wind up owning it!
We did the Montgomery Antique Mall too, and saw nothing there but the usual
badly made, or shabby, or lumpy 30’s quilts for way too much money. The
Antique Colony has lots and lots of booths with decent quilts, but one other
in particular , towards the front to the right of the door, has a terrific
1870 Log Cabin from Pa. Again, almost unused condition — for $600.00.
This lady gets all her stock back in Pa. If you go, also look for the booth
with the two glorious Japanese Obi. The one I really wanted to take home
was — ta dah– $600.00! Needless to say, it is still there!
We were directed to another Antique Mall, just down the road, at 9250 Hwy.
377 South, Benbrook, TX (817-249-0844). It is on the right side as you go
south, in what used to be a WalMart (never heard of one of those closeing!)
Not much to be seen there, except at least 90 – 100 6″square Trip around
the World blocks made up of 1/2″ squares! I saw them in a case, with a tag
on top that said $50.00. I wouldn’t have bargained at all, just grabbed
them, given them my money, and run! Except that when they were taken out of
the case for me, they were marked $50.00 for 4, and that’s the way they were
pinned together — in groups of 4! OK, figure there were 100 (it would have
made a very small top with the number that were there.) That would have
given the dealer $1250, if she had sold them all! This was no mistake
’cause it was the dealer herself that opened the case for me. It was all I
could do to keep from laughing in her face! Want to go see them? Go to the
left side wall, walk to the back, and halfway down the row on the right look
in a low glass case.
In another booth the same dealer leases, way in the back, is a Featherweight
with a case (looks to be in good condition) for $395.00 — in case anyone is
interested.
We did find a piece of furniture there. It was marked as a lecturn, but DH
and I both knew it was a Southern paymaster’s stand-up desk, Hepplewhite,
circa 1820-30, of Cuban Mahogany. It had a few problems, but nothing that
DH can’t fix perfectly. They called the dealer at home, and she reduced
the price by 50%. How satisfying to find something valuable when the dealer
is totally ignorant of it’s worth. Everyone in the mall kept calling it a
lecturn, asked us what we ould preach from it, and we just nodded in
agreement or made jokes.
DH virtually turned it inside-out, and upside down, using his ever-present
tiny Mag-Light, steel tape, and my fold-up brush with mirror in the handle.
When he was satisfied it was what WE thought it was, we paid our money,
hustled it into the huge trunk of my Mom’s 84 Chevy and giggled all the way
back to the “home”! (We stay at Mother’s retirement building in a special
apt. they set aside for visiting relatives.) Next morning, Monday, we took
it over to “Pack and Ship”, and we should see it again, here in NJ, by
Monday.
Other wonderful stuff happened, too, but I won’t bore you with that. So,
all in all, it was a very exciting and gratifying trip.
Oh, yes! One other thing! Remember the posts about the quilt that I had
bought from Rocky Mountain Quilts a couple of months ago? Sharon Newman
kindly squeezed us in for an appraisal at the Quilt Show on Saturday, and
completely eased my mind. It is what it is, what I thought it was from the
start, with no problems, and was a good value for my money. DH was
adamant about not hauling it all the way to Texas just for an appraisal, to
wait until we could get to an appraiser by car, ’cause I never told him
about everyone’s concerns until I had to, to get him to let me pack it.
Sharon, you’ve saved my marriage!
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrow@blast.net
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DateTue, 30 Mar 1999 221539 EST
FromMiamiQuilt@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
In a message dated 3/30/99 95246 PM Eastern Standard Time, QHL-Digest-
request@cuenet.com writes
<< <mswaller@iw.net> >>
A quilt made for presentation has a number of factors that can be added in to
the equation. Would like to respond privately. Email me at your convenience.
Pam
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 000308 EST
FromSAERoy@aol.com
ToQHL@cuenet.com
SubjectQHLReDye Magnet
Message-ID<d1706348.3701ac8c@aol.com>
Content-typetext/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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<< It is called Dye Magnet, by Carbona. It looks like a typical white
washcloth bordered with blue serging. But, throw it in the washer, every
load, and any excess dye, in anything you are washing, clothes or just new
yardage, will fix itself to the Dye Magnet, not to anything else in the load.
>>
I’ve never seen the dye magnet but it sounds like a similar idea that was
given in a workshop that I attended on dyeing fabric. The woman dyes a lot of
fabric and sells them at quilt shows in the Dallas-Ft. Worth metroplex. She
just throws in an old nylon brassiere in the final wash of the dyeing process.
Evidently the nylon attracts any excess dye. She showed the brassiere to the
guild and it was that same grungy color that you described. She did note that
she doesn’t wear that bra any more!
Sharon
Ft. Worth, TX
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 080112 EST
FromPennstudd@aol.com
In a message dated 3/30/99 95340 PM Eastern Standard Time, QHL-Digest-
request@cuenet.com writes
<<
ToQHL@cuenet.com >>
The question concerning Crazy Quilts. From the books that I have read, black
silk was generally the choice of backing fabrics. They also used black taffeta
and black velvet. It seems the reason they used an awlful lot of black is
because it was Queen Victoria’s favorite color.
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 145123 +0100
From”Sally Ward” <sward@t-ward.demon.co.uk>
A number of crazy quilts I have seen in British museums have very boring =
backings – something like heavy muslin, or sateens, or cottons in dull =
colours. I would have thought that using velvet or taffeta on the back =
would be a) an expensive waste because it would not be seen and b) =
impractical because it would make the quilt slide off the table, chair =
back, or whatever – which is where they were usually seen rather than =
beds. A lot of those I have seen have rotted fabric in the top because =
of the mineral salt treatments on taffetas etc, but their backs – being =
‘cheaper’ fabric – are still intact. =20
BTW. The crazy tops were often pieced onto a lightweight foundation and =
then the backing applied afterwards with minimal attachment to the top. =
I haven’t seen any ‘tied’ in the way we associate with ‘utility’ ties, =
i.e. trailing threads on the top.
Disclaimer Only an amateur opinion!
Sally in UK
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 084042 -0700
FromEileen Trestain <ejtrestain@earthlink.net>
I am pecking around for information/values on a Souix gift quilt,
myself. The one I am looking at is very pretty, made in all solid
fabrics. It has an eagle in the center, machine topstitch appliqued. But
this quilt was made in the 1920’s, is in the original recipients family,
I have not found too many like it to compare. It looks new, spotless,
though it is over 70 years old.
WHile I am at it, has anyone seen a civil War era quilt with a
regimental flag in the center? I’ve got one of those I am researching,
too.
Eileen
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 111402 -0800
From”pepper cory” <pepcory@bmd.clis.com>
To<QHL@cuenet.com>
Thanks to the many people who emailed about The Signature Quilt, Susan’s
and my opus on quilts with writing. It’s still available and here’s the
email to prove it.
Pepper Cory
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> FromSusan McKelvey <smckelvey@expresshost.com>
> Topepper cory <pepcory@mail.clis.com>
> SubjectReSignature book “ad” for QHL
> DateTuesday, March 30, 1999 628 PM
>
> Dear Pepper,
>
> Just a note to tell you that I sell The Signature Quilt on my web site
> www.susanmckelvey.com, and I would be delighted to have you let your
friends
> on QHL know that we carry it. We show a big picture and list all the
> details on the book. It is listed for $29.95 plus 4.00 shipping, but for
> any friends who order between now and May 15 and who mention your name,
I
> will send it for $30 including shipping. And, of course, I will throw in
my
> autograph!
>
> Love, Susan
>
>
>
>
> Pepper,
>
> Hope the above is about right. Should I run out and order books
tomorrow?
> Hope so. The thanks from both of us is great! Let me know if there is a
> reaction. Also, I” have to tune in.
>
> More Soon, Susan
> —–Original Message—–
> Frompepper cory <pepcory@mail.clis.com>
>
>
> >Here’s how to do it Susan
> >I’ll say “Just got this post from my writing partner Susan McKelvey and
she
> >sells The Signature Quilt through her business. Ask her to autograph
your
> >copy and when you see me in person I’ll do the same.
> >
> >( enter your web site address, book info including # pages, ISBN #,
price
> >etc. )
> >
> >I’ll end with “Many many thank-you’s for all the inquiries about The
> >Signature Quilt from both Susan and I.”.
> >
> >And then I’ll post it to the QHL list. That’s a list you may want to
> >subscribe to. They’re quilt history nuts and inquiries about signatures
> >come up fairly often.
> >
> >Leslie’s upcoming wedding sounds wonderful! Did you get the silver for
her
> >on ebay? Good for you on the bluebird book! If C&T doesn’t snatch it up,
go
> >to Quilt Digest Press. I have resisted buying you bluebird things
because
> >you were uncomfortable with gifts but I see them so often! You might
want
> >to check with Xenia Cord on whether there were any kit quilts from the
20’s
> >or ’30’s with bluebirds–she’s the most knowledgeable person on kits I
> >know.
> >
> >Better get back to work-
> >Hi to Doug and all members of your menagerie.
> >Pepper
> >PS-tell Leslie we finally separated the pampas grass by the red shed. It
> >made three enormous plants. We have a good start on our ‘green wall’
> >between the backyard and the chained dogs on the other side. we also
found
> >out the strange vine up the little back fence is a kiwi plant! It used
to
> >have a mate but it died (kiwis have sexes and won’t fruit without both
male
> >and female). We are planting two more kiwis to keep it company and
hoping
> >fro fruit in three years. I found the owner before Leslie (Owen) on the
> >web–he’s in Australia and has been a wealth of information on planting
in
> >the yard.
>
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 113729 -0600 (CST)
FromNancy Evans <nevans@nebnet.net>
At 0251 PM 3/31/99 +0100, you wrote
>A number of crazy quilts I have seen in British museums have very boring
backings – something like heavy muslin, or sateens, or cottons in dull colours.
I’ve not been following the crazy backings posts very closely, but I thought
I’d throw one inI have a c. 1905 crazy quilt – non embroidered in dark
wools and plaids that has a backing that is an old SKIRT!! At least I’m
pretty sure that’s what it is – it is cadet blue with a little cream print
design (like a calico), and the skirt was not even dismantled before use.
They just got it as flat as they could – pieced it some (although some of
the original gussets are still in place), and tied the crazy top to the
skirt. Wierdest darn thing! Garage sale, $25 or so, and worth every cent (of
course), just for the fun of having it!
Nancy Evans
Nebraska Quilter
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 103609 PST
From”Kim Heger” <kheger@hotmail.com>
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*****Could this pic possibly be put up on the Quilt History site like a
previous one was??? I’d be interested in viewing it, too, as I’m sure
lots of people are!
<< Has anyone ever seen one of these cheater cloth sacks made into a
quilt? >>
Yes – have one, would you like a photo…don’t have one, but could take
one.
Deb
Get Your Private, Free Email at http//www.hotmail.com
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 150439 EST
FromQuiltFixer@aol.com
I am not an expert on crazy quilt backings, but I sure have done repair and
conservation work on many. Every one I did had a different type of backing or
none at all! The last one I did had a silk backing that must not have been
soaked in the salt solution and probably was added at a later time. The one
before that had a beautiful silk back that appeared to be French and it was so
shattered it fell apart as you looked at it. Most that I have seen that are
“tacked” have been done with silk embroidery thread and not the tied method we
know today. These were dated in the l800s. Toni Baumgard
QuiltFixer@aol.com
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 150959 EST
FromAlineMcK@aol.com
I’ll post on behalf of a lurker who told me about a crazy quilt she has that
used indigo-dyed (presumably cotton) fabric as a foundation. Even though the
top itself was badly rotted, the foundation had stayed intact, preserving at
least the embroidery. (And hey, speak up, S…you know who you are!).
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 155518 -0600
FromKAREN BUSH <Birdsong@worldnet.att.net>
ToQHL@cuenet.com
I can’t BELIEVE all the responses I’ve gotten from my question on the
quilt design class!!! And,…ALL for the “YES” answers for my ‘poll’!
Seems like there’s a real demand out there for help with design! I guess
it’s like everything else, we all have been working our craft for so
long, we (well *I*) have forgotten there are BASICS to learn and designs
that beginners or even experienced quilters want to learn. ugh…hit ME
over the head!
I just wanted to send a “Blanket” (pardon the pun) THANK YOU for all
your help and suggestions!!!! I printed out THIRTY FOUR PAGES of e-mails
out to study!!! I had over 80 of them! Now, to the ‘research’ part of
this, and get some kind of ‘plan’ …there were so Many suggestions,
but, most along the same lines as far as how to structure the one-on-one
versus classes…again..THANK YOU…This list is GREAT! ))) kb
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DateWed, 31 Mar 1999 164804 -0600
From”Karen Erlandson” <erland@cooke.net>
Just a little noteBlack may or may not have been Queen Victoria’s
“favorite” color, but it was the color of mourning – she mourned her beloved
Albert from the time of his death throughout the rest of her life never
appearing in any other color, even at her daughter’s wedding – elevating
mourning to an elaborate art form. The people in the Victorian time period
(much like the present times) loved to copy the “rich and famous”. Victoria
didn’t invent mourning, but she sure did a lot to publicize it!
Karen E.