January 13 – 14, 2000
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Primary topics of this QHL Digest:
- Redwork Block Orientation and Feedsack Contest Archives — Members discuss how loosely Redwork blocks were traditionally set (even upside-down), alongside a request for advice on donating 1940s–50s National Cotton Council contest paperwork. (see the article on redwork and outline embroidery)
- A Kosovo Soldier’s Request for Quilting Fabric — A cross-posted appeal seeks fabric donations for a U.S. serviceman stationed in Kosovo who was quilting in his off hours.
- Preserving Fragile Antique Quilt Paperwork — Advice on color-photocopying and laminating fragile original documents so museums and researchers can safely handle copies instead of originals. (see the article on repair, restore, or conserve)
- A Reunited Pickle Dish Quilt and Its Maker — A member shares the happy outcome of her search for the maker of a Pickle Dish quilt she had purchased.
- Hydrating Brittle Antique Fabric and Leather — A detailed, patient technique for softening brittle old textiles and leather using controlled ambient humidity rather than direct moisture.
- Dating the Sunbonnet Sue Pattern — Members trace the Sunbonnet Sue design’s origins through pattern history and reference books on its evolution. (see the article on dating quilts)
- Reselling Photocopied Antique Patterns on eBay — A debate over whether selling photocopies of vintage, possibly copyrighted, quilt and needlework patterns online is legal or ethical.
- Barb Garrett on Simply Quilts: Mennonite and Amish Traditions — Reactions to a TV appearance on Pennsylvania German, Mennonite, and Amish quilt styles spark a thread on Mennonite immigration and family history.
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 1980 07:13:38 -0500 | From: Richard Crandall
Last evening I was at a meeting and due to illness the designated speaker couldn’t be there…her replacement was a lady who collects quilts. Made me happy! She showed different quilts she has been able to pick up here in Maine all for under $100.00. You have no idea how envious I was and I now want to follow her every move! She showed a GREAT Redwork quilt….it was signed and dated 1907. I have two questions…when did Redwork start/end? The second question is about how the blocks were arranged. Instead of being “right side up” from top to bottom they were placed to face the long sides of the quilt. Not sure I am making this clear…if one was standing at the foot of the bed and looking at the quilt, you would be seeing the blocks on their sides facing out from the center row. Why is this? The quilt was in mint condition…very cute designs in the blocks and very nicely quilted. The one sad thing about this “collector”..she loves old quilts but doesn’t quilt or really know much about them so she has done some not so great things with the wonderful tops she has found. Some she has put thick poly batts in and tied (I can hear yours gasps) and others she has used as tablecloths. I wanted to rescue them, especially the ones with great late 19th century fabrics. Oh well, Carole in Maine
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:55:48 -0800 | From: “Julia D. Zgliniec”
Dear QHL, Perhaps the “sideways” set as I understand the explanation was because this quilt was going to be viewed on a bed in a corner or against a wall or perhaps it was a “day bed” type, meant to be viewed from the side. When quilts were made for beds, it was an important consideration as to how it would be seen on the bed where it was to be used. Julia
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:54:56 EST | From: Baglady111
I need some input..I have a lot of paperwork that dates back to the 40’s/50’s that pertains to the NATIONAL COTTON COUNCIL CONTEST, much like FAIRFIELD/HOFFMAN of today..Because my feedsack club is exhibiting more and more by museums/universities/organizations, I want to send this info for the display…WHAT do I use in order to protect it? It has been suggested I laminate everything..then someone said after awhile it will age and disintegrate and the item with it.. Another suggestions is plastic/see thru sleeves you use in notebooks…any thoughts on all of this??? Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB packing up an exhibit for TN..
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:25:00 EST | From: QuiltFixer
There is no hard and fast rule to the way Redwork blocks were set. Many Redwork coverlets were made by children and I have some examples where the blocks are even set upside down, sideways and every which way. It really did not seem very important to the people who made them. There are of course examples of Redwork quilts that were carefully made and laid out to hang down the side of the bed and be viewed there. Children’s beds were often pushed against the wall to make more room in small rooms and often the spread or coverlet was made to fit just the particular bed. Most Redwork was not quilted until a much later date or not at all and was not meant to last for generations. Toni Baumgard QuiltFixeraol.com The Redwork Lady redworkldyaol www.redworklady.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:34:36 EST | From: Chyral
In a message dated 01/12/2000 2:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, Baglady111aol.com writes: > I need some input..I have a lot of paperwork that dates back to the 40’s/50’s > that pertains to the NATIONAL COTTON COUNCIL CONTEST, much like > FAIRFIELD/HOFFMAN of today..Because my feedsack club is exhibiting more and > more by museums/universities/organizations, I want to send this info for the > > display…WHAT do I use in order to protect it? It has been suggested I > laminate everything..then someone said after awhile it will age and > disintegrate and the item with it.. > Another suggestions is plastic/see thru sleeves you use in notebooks…any > thoughts on all of this??? > Your best options are to either have the ephemera properly mounted and framed, using archival, acid-free materials, or to encapsulate them between sheets of archival Mylar. In the event that poly sheet protectors are used, be certain that they are archival-safe as well. Lamination is BAD, because it is not revers able….. the lessons we learn about quilt and textile conservation/preservation/storage apply here as well; paper goods have the same susceptibilities to damage from light, humidity, and acidity. Some on-line suppliers of archival materials are: University Products http://www.universityproducts.com/ Light Impressions http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/ Gaylord Archival http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/ The Archival Company http://archivalcompany.com/ Archival Products http://www.archival.com/
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:35:45 -0500 | From: “jawhitecourant.infi.net”
Sorry for the cross post, but someone on one of the quilt lists gave an address of a soldier at Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo. She said she got his addy from her guild and he was looking for fabric donations because they were quilting in their off time. Well, I just wanted the person to know that I sent a box of fabric during Christmas week, and today I received a thank-you letter dated 12/29/99. He said my fabric was the first he had received but he had sent out about 10 letters. If anyone else wants the name, please email me and I will share it. Anyway, thanks to the person who originally posted the addy. BTW, it’s really not expensive to send a little box of fabric to an APO addy – I spent $3.29. Judy White – Ct where we are finally going to get some snow
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 193952 -0800 | From: Yvonne Jones
A reminder that our own QHL member Barb Garrett will be on Simply Quilts on
Friday the 14th, episode #537. She will be talking about PA German
quilts of the late 1800’s, and comparing Mennonite style with Amish
style. The demo quilt is Joseph’s Coat of Many Colors. I look very
forward to seeing this particular show.
Yvonne
Washington State
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:10:44 -0500 | From: “John Cawley”
I’ve been meaning to give you my opinion of Mellers and Elfers. I use it all the time. Many of the fabrics are French, but consider how all pervasive French taste in fashion was up until perhaps 30 years ago. Very early (up until 1850) American quilts were made of French and English fabric. Combined with Eileen Trestain’s book on fabric dating Mellers &Elfers is the best reference available, IMHO. Montgomery’s book contains very few photos and concentrates on furnishing fabrics rather than dress weight. Cinda on the Eastern Shore
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 215009 +1100 | From: nomad1ibm.net
Dear QHL’ers,
I just had to share some wonderful news about my search for
the quilter ( Mrs Nanny Bell Morgan ) who is the maker of a
wonderful Pickle Dish quilt I bought from Dallas. As you
know I put out a call for help on QHL and I was so thrilled
to receive some willing quilt detectives! Well its been so
exciting as I received some fabulous emails from EKarenbeth
in Corpus Christie in regards to Mrs Nanny Bell Morgan! >
She had actually managed to track her daughter down through
telephone calls and Internet searches! So of course I could
not help myself but telephone EKarenbeth and we shared in the
wonderful excitement of a mystery solved. Then whilst she
prayed for me I telephoned Mrs Talley, who is Mrs Morgan’s
daughter-that she lived with until she passed away last
year.
I had such fun ) You should have heard the surprise in the
voices at getting a telephone call from Australia!!
Actually, I am wondering as to whether some of them even
knew what or where Australia was!! I think they all thought
I was a bit strange and realised I was from elsewhere due to
my accent!! Anyway, I spoke to her nephew and then finally
managed to catch her at work in Dallas in a clothing store.
I asked her if she had the time to have a chat and she did.
We had a fabulous chat-This Mrs Talley is charming and very
helpful. She will look for photos to spare for me and
happily answered questions and will try and remember more
and write. ** Afraid I did not have the courage to ask her
why she sold her Mum’s quilts-6 months after she passed
away!
Anyway, I immediately got a letter off to her today with a
self addressed envelope enclosed, as well as all the facts
written, just in case I misheard her. . BTW, Mrs Talley was
thrilled that I treasured her mothers quilt, even though she
was amused that I was such a serious quilt maniac! She also
liked the idea that I wanted to label all this onto the back
of the quilt, so that if I pop off, the history is not lost
in the dust of time. God willing, I might add!
I thought I might keep the telephone bill ( when it
arrives)with the quilt records as well!! > I pre warned my
DH John so he does not get too surprised and have a fit as
boy did I telephone a lot of lovely people in Texas!! >
EKarenbeth was interested in the questions I asked as she too
is searching for information on her quilt. She has found the
quilter but not asked the questions. So perhaps there are
others who might be interested. I have chattered long
enough, so if anyone does want a copy of the letter, please
do email me and I am happy to send a copy.
So thank you EKarenbeth so very much for all your hard work
of searching on the web and telephoning all the Morgans in
Crandall, Texas. EKarenbeth lives in Texas too, but approx 8
hours drive from Crandall. Thank you also to Carolyn who has
sweetly agreed to take some photos of Crandall for me and to
Terri who offered to help and to Melissa’s aunt, Auntie
Carol, who will search records for me to chek facts etc.
Its been such a blast sharing in this mystery- a real
communion of spirit one could say.
Thanks for allowing me to share, Hiranya from Oz >
p.s Be encouraged Karen and any others who are searching and
best wishes in your quest for preserving the past..
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 083047 -0500 | From: Newbie Richardson
This goes back a few days (weeks?) as I have been catching up on the
posts.
Frequently old fabrics can be made less brittle if they are hydrated.
One simple way of doing this, without immersing the item in water, is to
lay the object out on a towel, or on a bed, or a table. Then place a
few wide, shallow containers of tap water around it (2 or 3 will do.
Then drape a piece of plastic sheeting, old vinyl tablecloth, rain
parka, etc. over the whole with something to support it over top of the
object. You are making a tent,so to speak. I use 4 candle sticks, or
tallish vases, etc. be sure that the whole item is covered so that there
is no place for the moisture to escape. Leave it alone for a couple of
days. (Do not let the cats jump up on it, spilling the water, they LOVE
to play under such structures!) The natural humidity which is released
into the air from the water will be absorbed by the textile. Under
these conditions, the textile will only absorb what it needs. It will
not “over absorbe.”
If you have a textile with a crease that cannot be steamed out
because it is too fragile or is too prone to damage from contact from
the actual moisture then you can still hydrate it by using a layer of
“gortex” fabric – like they now make outter wear from.
Place the item flat on a padded surface. Spread the gortex over the
treatment area. Next, place damp, clean sponges or damp clean fabric
over it and weight it down with paper weights. There are actual glass
or acryllic weights made for this purpose, but any dressmaking weight
will do. In a pinch I’ve used plastic bags of rice or beans. The trick
is to keep checking and only leave the damp cloth on for 10 minutes at a
time. The gortex is a barrier, allowing the humidity (gas ) through,
but not the moisture (droplets ) through. However, the humidity will
turn to condensation if you leave the damp cloth on too long. So you
have to be on guard. Set yourself up at a table in front of the TV and
use a kitchen timer. You must not leave the textile alone! There is a
very fine line between hydrating and “steaming” (there must be term for
“steaming” with cool water!).
I have put old, dry, leather shoes that were too brittle to unbend
without breaking, in to a plastic bag with a cup of water and left it
sealed. In three days, they were supple enough to straighten and stuff
with tissue or poly batting!
Newbie Richardson
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 091321 EST | From: CToczek
I’m not in on the fabric requests from soldiers, but I have first hand
experience with Army-military APO addresses. As I explained to my Arkansas
family when we were stationed in Italy, you only pay postage as far as the
APO address, like Box 222, APO NY, 10996…NOT the postage all the way to
Italy or Bosnia or wherever.
Carla Toczek
at serenely snowy West Point (our first of the winter and they closed the
schools right away!)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 130203 EST | From: KareQuilt
Here’s a unique site that I found via the Virginia Consortium of Quilters
website (http//www.vcq.org/) that’s sure to tickle your funny bone at some
point. Judith designs all her own blocks (which are for sale) as both
patterns and notecards. The Patchwork Penitentiary is hilarious. Havent’
checked them all out yet. It’s good to see a little humor developing in
patterns <g> the Quilt Humor website is http//www.qtoons.com.
No affiliation etc.
Karen Alexander
No. Virginia
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 141624 EST | From: Bethquilt5
Jane,
How about photocopying your originals in color and laminating those? They
look surprisingly like the originals and you don’t have to worry about how
anyone handles them. Let the museums know that these are copies or you can
add that into the laminated presentation as well.
Beth Donaldson
Lansing, Michigan
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 163054 -0500 | From: “Phyllis Twigg”
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The Baltimore Appliqu� Society in Ellicott City, Maryland is exploring the
possibility of having Merikay Wardvogel as the evening’s speaker at the
October 18,2000 meeting. They are seeking other guilds or organizations in
neighboring states which might also be interested in inviting Merikay in
order to share expenses (such as travel). The Baltimore Applique Society
meets the 3rd Wednesday of the month. She would be available for dates after
October 18th.
Please email me privately for details.
Thanks,
Phyllis Twigg
ptwiggradix.net
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 134045 -0800 | From: “Mindy Sharp”
How old is the originial Sunbonnet Sue pattern/
Mindy Sharp
Go forward and never lose sight of your dreams.
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 172225 -0500 | From: “jawhitecourant.infi.net”
CC minshagte.net
Subject: Sunbonnet Sue
In my book, “A Meeting of the Sunbonnet Children” by Betty Hagerman, she
says that Sunbonnet Sue probably evolved from the Kate Greenaway
illustrations of children that were popular in the late 19th century.
In America, a woman named Bertha Corbett popularized the faceless
children in a book called, “The Sun-Bonnet Babies in June, 1900. A true
Sunbonnet child has the face totally hidden. Her next book was “The
Sunbonnet Babies Primer” which was a music book to be used with children
in school.
My book says that, “Rand McNally & Company . . . lists the following
Sunbonnet and Overall books by Eulalie Osgood Grover, illustrated . . .
by Bertha Corbett Melcher, the “Mother of the Sunbonnet Babies”, and
gives a list of 10 different books of Sunbonnet adventures.
Judy White – Ct
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 203236 -0500 | From: “Kris Driessen, Hickory Hill Quilts”
Tami just posted a note to our bulletin board about popcorn quilts. To
read and hopefully answer it, visit
http//www.quilthistory.com/Bulletin%20Board.htm
Kris
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 003309 -0500 | From: “J. G. Row”
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>~1940 RING A. THE ROSIE QUILT PATTERN~
>Item #233242248
>Seller (Rating) amcexeculink.com (309)
>1940 Ring Around the Rosie Quilt Pattern
>This pattern consists of a direct copy from the original of a 59 year old
darling Aunt >Martha’s applique ‘Ring Around the Rosie’ quilt pattern,
ca.1940.
Warning — Beware — This dealer is making copies (probably xeroxes, or some
such) of the old time patterns and selling the copies. But illustrates the
ad with the original pattern.
There are a number of patterns listed from this seller.
Judy in Ringoes, NJ
judygrowblast.net
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 072824 -0500 | From: “Judy Kelius (judysue)”
List” <QHLcuenet.com>
Subject: Re QHL buyer beware
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I don’t know if it the same person but someone told me she outbid someone
who copies old patterns to sell on eBay, and that person then contacted the
seller with a sob story of how she really wanted to “make” that quilt and
could the seller please, please sell her a copy? The seller had the sense
to contact the high bidder for permission and found out about the real
reason for her wanting the pattern so badly. I don’t know if there is
anything illegal about selling the copies but it is certainly unethical if
this is how she gets the patterns. (And deceiving if her photo is of the
old pattern, not her copy.) I get requests for copies for some of my items
on eBay but always turn them down.
At 1233 AM 01/15/2000 -0500, J. G. Row wrote
> >~1940 RING A. THE ROSIE QUILT PATTERN~
> >Item #233242248
> >Seller (Rating) amcexeculink.com (309)
> >1940 Ring Around the Rosie Quilt Pattern
> >This pattern consists of a direct copy from the original of a 59 year old
>darling Aunt >Martha’s applique ‘Ring Around the Rosie’ quilt pattern,
>ca.1940.
>
>Warning — Beware — This dealer is making copies (probably xeroxes, or some
>such) of the old time patterns and selling the copies. But illustrates the
>ad with the original pattern.
>There are a number of patterns listed from this seller.
>
>Judy in Ringoes, NJ
>judygrowblast.net
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 082909 EST | From: JQuilt
i went to the bulletin board…what a great idea…thanks kris.
jean
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 082855 -0500 | From: “jawhitecourant.infi.net”
There is one dealer in particular who sells copies of patterns on eBay
on a regular basis, and I complained to another collector about this
because it annoys me to click on an item, thinking it is an original,
only to find out it is a copy. Anyhow, my collector friend said that
some people who collect patterns don’t really care if they have an
original or not and will gladly pay for a copy.
Well, when I first began to collect vintage newspaper patterns, I also
settled for copies, but not at eBay prices. Now that I have many, many,
I don’t want copies, only originals. So, I guess it’s up to the buyer
as to what they will settle for. Is this seller that you are talking
about announcing that she is selling copies?
Judy White – in snowy Ct.
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 085406 EST | From: aol.com
It may well be illegal, depending on who holds the Aunt Martha’s copyright/
trademark. I’m not an expert in such things, but I would be very leery of
copying old patterns and then selling them. The rule on books is life of the
author plus fifty years (or, why Sherlock Holmes entered the public domain in
1980). I’m not sure about other intellectual property like quilt patterns.
Any lawyers out there?
Karen Evans
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 191341 EST | From: JQuilt
saw the simply quilts show this afternoon….with Barbara Garrett talking
about and making a mennonite doll quilt(jacob’s coat)pattern…both the show
and Barbara were great…
jean laino
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 203706 EST | From: Xroadclown
I agree! Nice Job Barbara!!!
Melanie & Frank Towner
xroadclownaol.com
989 Auburn Road
Groton, NY 13072
“Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble
remembering how to fly”
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 195541 -0600 | From: Jennifer Perkins
Hi All! Had a question as I have to give a lecture on quilt care and
restoration on Tue. I know that you are not to put quilts into cedar
chests because of contact with the raw wood, but is there another reason?
What if quilts were put in there wrapped in a cotton sheet of pillow
case-would that be safe?
Enjoyed the Simply Quilts today about Mennonite and Amish quilts. She
stated that Mennonites came here in the 1600’s?? As my Mennonite ancestors
arrived in the mid-1800’s from Russia, I’m wondering at that early date.
What do you all know about it?
TIA
Jennifer in Iowa
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:14:08 -0500 | From: Barb Garrett
Hi Jennifer and interested others – I’m the person who made the statement today that you disagree with. I was talking about the arrival of the first Mennonites into Pennsylvania. Not all Mennonites left Europe at that time, it was just the beginning, and the early settlers came from the Rhine and Palatine regions of Germany, by way of Switzerland. Later (1800s) immigrants came from Russia. A quick timeline —- 1520s – Anabaptists originated — later to become the Amish, Mennonites and Brethren 1536 – those who followed the teachings of Menno Simon, a former Catholic priest who became the leader of the Dutch Anabaptists, became known as the Mennonites, and separated themselves from the Brethren 1550 – the Anabaptists scattered through north and west Europe. Those in Switzerland were called Swiss Brethren and included the ancestors of many Lancaster County Mennonites. They left Zurich and Bern, Switzerland and settled in Germany. 1677 – William Penn, a Quaker from England, visited the lower Rhine country and invited the Swiss Brethren, including the Mennonites, to move to “Penn’s Woods, or Pennsylvania, a paradise where they could own land and worship God as the Scripture commands.” 1683 – the first group of Mennonites to leave for PA departed North Germany and the Netherlands.. They settled in Germantown, now part of Philadelphia, before moving into Montgomery, Berks and Lancaster Counties. 1702 – Franconia Conference in Montgomery County was established, several church congregations were started. 1710 – the ship Mary Hope arrived in Philadelphia with Swiss Mennonites aboard 1711 – settled in Willow Street (Pequea) in Lancaster County 1717-1719 – more migrations to Lancaster County Migration out of Europe lasted through the mid 1800s as the Anabaptists looked for religious toleration and financial opportunity. As the later ones arrived, they moved further west as the farmland was already occupied in PA. I hope this information helps clarify my statement. Barb in southeastern PA
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:31:32 -0600 | From: “Schmidt”
Good evening, everyone. My husband’s grandmother is Mennonite and lives in south-central Kansas. As my husband explains it, his family’s ancestors came from Prussia in the 19th Century. In the Kansas Historical Museum in Topeka, KS, there are a few displays of Mennonite life. (Or, perhaps the displays are in the museum in Newton, KS or Goessel.) Anyway, If I remember correctly, the displays explained that many of the Mennonites who immigrated to the Midwest in the mid- to late-1800s had left the Old Country because the Prussian government had plans to draft the pacifist Mennonites into the country’s army. This was something my husband, Brian, didn’t realize about his family. I’m not surprised, though. His father is now a Lutheran; his brother converted to Catholicism; and he himself attends a non-denominational church. I believe his grandmother is the only Mennonite left in the family…and she doesn’t quilt. 🙂 However, I’ve attended the local Mennonite Disaster Relief Quilt Auction Preview in years passed. It’s something of a Spring rite for me. They also have a fabulous sales booth set up with old quilt tops, blocks, patterns, scrap bags, magazines, etc. That’s where I usually head to first. Then Brian and I munch on Vereniki and sausages and call it a successful road trip. It’s always fun. Thanks, Barb, for a great show today. I had no idea the traditional colors that the eastern Mennonites used were so bright. Jennifer in KS
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:31:58 EST | From: Quilt97
Jennifer, Please post to the list any answers/information you receive about storing cloth-wrapped quilts in a cedar chest. I would appreciate reading the answers, also. Thanks. EKarenbeth
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:53:49 EST | From: WileneSmth
in the ones i’ve looked at, the person who is selling photocopies of vintage quilt and needlework patterns on eBay clearly states in both the auction title AND description that they are copies / photocopies, AND the photos with the auctions I have looked at are clearly and obviously of the photocopies because they are white, white, white, so are not photos of the originals. because she is clearly stating they are photocopies, or at least copies — same thing, I see absolutely nothing unethical about it. for me, I’m simply not interested in photocopies, but obviously some out there don’t care just so they have the patterns, so, like many other things — to each his/her own. re: copyrights on them — has anyone complained about the ones that QNM and other quilt magazines have published since the 1960s, including all the home-published periodicals in the 1960s and 1970s by many of the round robin participants? ever hear where any of these people or publications got in trouble for doing so? how many of those vintage patterns even have copyrights? very few. very, very few. what amazes me much more is what the original KC STAR clippings are now bringing on eBay!!! apparently there are now people out there willing to pay well over $7,000 for a collection of these clippings since there are 1,068 of them! boggles my mind! forgive my hunt and peck — took a brutal fall yesterday, broke my left arm and wrist, and probably right big toe which connected with something totally unforgiving and wouldn’t let go. also learned I’d broken a bone in my left hand a couple of weeks ago, too! and I have to fly to NYC Sunday so can’t get a cast put on until after I get back late next week. bah! humbug! my once in a lifetime fees going to pay hospital, x-ray people I never saw, and doctors instead of letting me pursue a dreamed about research project. bah! humbug! life’s such a bummer sometimes with no way to ever get ahead of it all! –wilene
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:55:00 EST | From: KareQuilt
of 18,000+ acres by William Penn to six German Mennonites. My father’s direct line (Beutler/Beidler), Swiss-German Mennonites, arrived in Sept 1732. My great great grandmother’s Mennonite (Stauffer/Stover) ancestors arrived even earlier about 1710, I believe. Karen Alexander Northern Virginia
