March 2 – 8, 2005
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Primary topics of this QHL Digest:
- Copake Auction Hammer Prices and a Questionable eBay “Amish Doll Quilt” Seller — Members compare Copake Auction results and warn each other about a seller misrepresenting doll quilts as antique Amish work.
- Barbara Brackman’s New “Quilt Detective” E-Newsletter — Members discuss subscribing to and comparing content in Barbara Brackman’s newly launched weekly dating and identification newsletter.
- Museum of the American Quilter’s Society Spring Exhibitions — Announcements for two new MAQS exhibitions opening in Paducah. (see the article on quilt museums)
- Seven-Pointed Star Quilts and Native American Design — Follow-up on seven-pointed star quilt examples and possible Native American design influence.
- A Redwork Quilt Replica from the 1904 St. Louis World’s Fair — A member researches and reproduces a redwork quilt design from the 1904 World’s Fair. (see the article on redwork and outline embroidery)
From: Judy White
I’m originally from Missouri and catywampus and catycornerd were normal words when I was growing up. I live in the Northeast now and when say either one of those words no one takes any notice so they must be ‘normal’ here too. Judy White
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 07:47:29 -0500 | From: Angel <adeavers@>
Greetings all!
I am new to this board and fairly new to quilting itself. I have only been seriously quilting for about a year now. I have also become very interested in the history of quilting mostly dating before 1600. I belong to a medieval re-creation group and I would love to bring two of my interests together.
I am looking for pictures of extant objects and also any books that might happen to talk about pre 1600 quilting. Also I just saw the post about the book from the York Museum, Through the Needle’s Eye, and I was what the book covers. I was not on this board earlier when it was discussed. I am lucky enough to have family that lives over in England and could possibly send me a copy of the book but I want to make sure that it will help me with what I am doing before I get a copy.
Thanks for the help!
Angel
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There is a 7 pointed star quilt at http://www.native-american-star-quilts.com/gallerypg3.htm with a little information about the Cherokee significance of it. (scroll down a bit) Dianne, who owns this star quilt site, might be able to give you more information if you wrote her.
Judy Anne
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:22:55 +0100 | From: Margareta.Faust@
Amy Butler has a Dorothy bag design. Is this it?
http://quilthome.com/advanced_search_result.php/search_in_description/1?keyw ords=dorothy+bag&x=0&y=0
Denise Bourgoyne
– No, it’s not! Funny how names travel…. The one I bought has no handles, only a drawstring at the top that you pull together for closing. Something like the gym bags we used to make at school in Sweden during needlework classes: i.e. a very simple construction! The same model is also used for laundry bags, ay least in some European countries. Margareta
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:51:08 -0500 | From: Julie <quiltappraiser@>
I tried to write down the hammer prices at the Copake Auction. I missed quite a few toward the middle. Did anyone on the list write down the winning bids and also did anyone download the photos. I only downloaded without photos. The previous year they kept the photos up and updated the estimates to actuals. That didn’t happen this year.
I’m going to be away starting Friday, 4 March until 20 March but I will read all my emails when I get back.
Julie Crossland Hudson, NH
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:08:58 -0800 | From: Karen Alexander <karenquilt@>
There was a very interesting article in the Financial Times Feb 26/27 2005 (Weekend pg. W13) (written by Nicole Swengley) that traces the complementary relationship between artists and fabric design. First two paragraphs read: <<Textiles may not have been Henri Matisse’s primary medium, but they were most certainly his inspiration. French silks, Persian carpets, African wall-hangings, Moroccan embroideries — hundreds of alluring scraps were saved then woven, figuratively speaking, into his paintings. Now the artist’s fabric and costume collection, unseen since his death in 1954, is the focus of a new exhibition at London’s Royal Academy of Art, which places the textiles alongside related paintings, prints and drawings. Gauging the show’s significance to contemporary designers is facile since this benign wheel of inspiration — fabric to art to fabric – has never stopped spinning. Museum and galleries increasingly license the use of images, resulting in faithful reproductions on fabric…>>
Article goes on to touch upon the interchange between textiles, wallpaper and floor coverings and covers some specific designers. Wonder if there is any chance that the buzz about this exhibit will inspire any future designers of quilt fabrics? Going to London this spring? Exhibition runs from March 5-May 30 Royal Academy of Arts, Burlington House, Piccadilly, London W1. Tel 44 (0) 20-7300 8000; www.royalacademy.org.uk
Karen Alexander In the sunny Pacific Northwest (yes, sunny!!)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:00:44 -0800 (PST) | From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmv@>
Did anyone on the list try to find out information on the Ebay vendor “sirmarkw” who is selling “DOLL QUILTS” “made by the Amish” that are “70 to 80 years old”. The description (rather lengthy) also goes on to describe the size as about 22″ x 28″ (isn’t that about the size of a pillow cover?) with a flap in the back. The vendor calls them “haps”. Any comments? I think these items resemble the pillow covers sold with the imported quilts. Just Curious in NW Ohio–C. Ark
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7305012224&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7304757452&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7304535190&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7301104121
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:18:05 -0500 | From: Candace Perry <candace@>
I won’t say anything except caveat emptor… Candace Perry
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7304757452& rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7304535190& rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2221&item=7301104121
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:49:02 -0800 | From: Karen Alexander <karenquilt@>
Sarah, I just know you will love China! My husband and I accompanied 35 subscribers on a trip to China in 1996. One of the purposes of our trip was to photograph the Spring Festivals of southwestern China, and we experience d both reenactments as well as the real thing. Unbelievable experience! Many of these festivals are still used for their original purposes — to bring the scattered Miao people together for courtship purposes. Our train ride t o Kaili was a trip and a half in and of itself! Had a great experience on the train with a couple of elderly Chinese ladies who were hauling around huge backpacks full of antique Chinese embroidered clothing, textiles, etc that they were taking to an open market in Kaili to sell. We, of course, wanted to buy then and there, and they were most obliging. But then three “Officials” showed up and chewed them out for selling on the train and took half their money! We felt terrible. We did run into them later at the stree t market in Kaili, though, and bought more stuff so as to replenish their purses. Being a stamp collector all my life, I knew that the Chinese loved stamp collecting and were not allowed to collect during the more heavy-handed day s of Communist rule, so I took dozens of small zip-lock bags of corner cuts canceled U.S. stamps. All I had to do was bring them out and the people =AD young and old =AD would flock around me like bees to honey. At one train station almost all the employees came running! I even stopped students on the street and showed them what I had, and soon I was totally surrounded by students. We had scheduled and unscheduled stops at several schools too, since we had so many educators in our group. I passed out stamps in the schools after first asking permission and was never refused. We picked up some terrific books while in China called =B3Odyssey Illustrated Guide to…=B2 and bought several titles: Guizho;, Shanghai; China; and the Yangzi River. They are very colorful and informative. (Copyrighted by the Guide Book Ltd. of Hong Kong). A friend of ours (Robert Lawrence Kuhn) has just released his new book =B3The Man Who Changed China: The Life and Legacy of Jiang Zemin=B2. Very interesting overview of the changes China has undergone, especially in the past 20 years. I could go on and on. We had a WONDERFUL trip. The people were friendly and welcoming everywhere we went, plus we had the BEST guide in the world =AD photographer Keren Su of China Span, located in Seattle. (See www.chinaspan.com). (No affiliation other than a friendship as a result of the wonderful experience.)
Karen Alexander
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:40:20 -0800 (PST) | From: stephanie drake <gsadrake@>
Finally I can add two cents worth!!! Cattywampus is synonymouw w/ “skew whiff” as my English mother would say. Steph in NH
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:05:12 -0800 (PST) | From: Dana Balsamo <danabalsamo@>
Hi Julie, I have them…email me privately with the lots you need, I’d bee happy to pass them on. I don’t have any pics though. My best, Dana
Julie <quiltappraiser@> wrote: I tried to write down the hammer prices at the Copake Auction. I missed quite a few toward the middle. Did anyone on the list write down the winning bids and also did anyone download the photos. I only downloaded without photos. The previous year they kept the photos up and updated the estimates to actuals. That didn’t happen this year.
I’m going to be away starting Friday, 4 March until 20 March but I will read all my emails when I get back.
Julie Crossland Hudson, NH
From: Judy Schwender
“From Concept to Quilt” opens this Saturday at the Museum of the American Quilter’s Society and will continue through May 8. This is a group of 20 quilts created for FreeSpirit fabrics to use in their booth at quilt market to help sell their fabric lines. Included in the exhibit are original artwork, antique swatches, wallpaper, and other inspirational ephemera.
The textile design classes at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln have, in the past, been given the assignment to design a group of fabrics. Sometimes their main inspiration has been a work of art. They design a large print, a geometric, a stripe, and a smaller print. Then these designs are printed by a computer-based fabric printer. Finally the students made the fabrics into items: umbrellas, kids overalls, napkins, sheets, lampshades, window coverings, whatever. They had an exhibit in the Hillestad Gallery of the student work, and it was wonderful! Judy Schwender Curator of Collections / Registrar Museum of the American Quilter’s Society Paducah, KY
Karen Alexander <karenquilt@> wrote: There was a very interesting article in the Financial Times Feb 26/27 2005 (Weekend pg. W13) (written by Nicole Swengley) that traces the complementary relationship between artists and fabric design. First two paragraphs read: <most certainly his inspiration. French silks, Persian carpets, African wall-hangings, Moroccan embroideries — hundreds of alluring scraps were saved then woven, figuratively speaking, into his paintings. Now the artist’s fabric and costume collection, unseen since his death in 1954, is the focus of a new exhibition at London’s Royal Academy of Art, which places the textiles alongside related paintings, prints and drawings. Gauging the show’s significance to contemporary designers is facile since this benign wheel of inspiration — fabric to art to fabric – has never stopped spinning. Museum and galleries increasingly license the use of images, resulting in faithful reproductions on fabric…>>
Article goes on to touch upon the interchange between textiles, wallpaper and floor coverings and covers some specific designers. Wonder if there is any chance that the buzz about this exhibit will inspire any future designers of quilt fabrics? Going to London this spring? Exhibition runs from March 5-May 30 Royal Academy of Arts, Burlington House, Piccadilly, London W1. Tel 44 (0) 20-7300 8000; www.royalacademy.org.uk
Karen Alexander In the sunny Pacific Northwest (yes, sunny!!)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:48:09 -0800 (PST) | From: Judy Schwender <sister3603@>
“Living Messages by Hollis Chatelain” opens this Saturday at the Museum of the American Quilter’s Society in Paducah, KY. Among the 15 works comprising this exhibit is “Precious Water” which won best of show at the International Quilt Festival in Houston last fall. These figurative quilts of people and trees showcase Chatelain’s incredible thread-painting skill in creating her art. “Living Messages by Hollis Chatelain” runs through May 8, 2005. For more information about the Museum of the American Quilter’s Society, visit our website at www.quiltmuseum.org. Judy Schwender Curator of Collections / Registrar Museum of the American Quilter’s Society
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:48:47 +0000 | From: Audrey Cameron <audreycameron@>
Hi Everyone,
Are there any comments or subscribers of the new newsletter sent out by Barbara Brachman. I just received my sample copy.
Audrey Cameron in windy, cold, but dry Lincolnshire, England
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:28:24 EST | From: DDBSTUFF@
Regarding the word “Catywampus” (which I also grew up with in Lewistown. PA) ,check out this interesting site:
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19981015
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 07:20:38 -0600 | From: Barbara Vlack <cptvdeo@>
Holy smokes. This is the kind of vendor that gives eBay a bad rep.
I agree that caveat emptor. Still, a bid of $10 might not be too bad, but the items are totally misrepresented! Currently available prints, including one I recognized as a Debbie Mumm. Machine embroidery. Ruching – in an Amish quilt??????
After reading the whole text accompanying these items, it appears to be very suspicious that this seller either has no clue or is very much on clue and is a shyster.
Just my opinion. Grin.
Barb Vlack cptvdeo@
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:41:43 EST | From: Edwaquilt@
There is a block called Cherokee Star. It is 7 points. Someone on this list wrote me many months ago about this and I couldn’t find the block and information at the time. Meanwhile my computer crashed and I lose the contact. If anyone is interested in this, I’ll get the info out again.
Holice
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 03:01:14 -0700 | From: <gingham@>
I joined the list about a week ago and I’m learning a lot. I’m just beginning my studies to be a quilt appraiser so I’m glad I signed up in time to read about Barbara Brackman’s newsletter.
I found a treasure trove of quilts today on ebay. They are offered by Pook and Pook and there will be a live auction on 3/11 and 3/12. There are quite a few quilts and also samplers and coverlets (about 100 textiles). Here is a link for the 1st quilt.
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/ 28220&item=6515954795
~~~~~~~~~~~~ C. Ark asked – Did anyone on the list try to find out information on the Ebay vendor “sirmarkw” who is selling “DOLL QUILTS” “made by the Amish” that are “70 to 80 years old”.
I looked at some of his items and they are listed as “DOLL QUILT – Authentic Early 1900’s Cloth – Amish Made”. He says that the fabric is old but that he has an Amish person make up the new quilts NOT that they are old quilts and that they have the pillowcase flap style so that they can be used for a pillow or a doll quilt. I don’t know if all that is true or not. I do know that when I have attended a traveling amish made craft show in Salt Lake, they had lots of quilts of all sizes and plenty of pillow shams. So who knows. But he is definitely not selling antique quilts.
-Sandra
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 07:31:41 EST | From: DDBSTUFF@
Regarding the “Amish Doll Quilts” on Ebay.
True, old Amish Doll quilts are extremely rare and I put the emphasis on “extremely”
I have collected Ohio Amish Quilts for almost 30 years and have had only a dozen or so.
These doll quilts might have been made by an Amish seamstress but they are in no way characteristic of true Amish Quilts.
They look like the type of thing that the Amish make to sell to the tourists.
However, the Amish in my area, i.e., Holmes Co, etc., usually make these items using solid colors in an attempt to emulate the quilts of their grandmothers and great grandmothers.
The early Amish in Ohio at least, never used printed fabrics.
I would doubt very much if these doll quilts have much age to them as the fabrics certainly don’t look very old.
Darwin
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:10:27 -0500 | From: Jan Drechsler <quiltdoc@>
I’d be interested in knowing whether Brackman’s newsletters are essentially the same information as her articles published in QNL Magazine. Anyone know?
Jan Drechsler
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:42:34 -0600 | From: Karan Flanscha <SadieRose@>
The first free sample copy of Barbara Brackman’s newsletter that I received on 2-27-05 is titled “The Quilt Detective: Clues in the Needlework”. This issue is titled “Fancy Quilting” and is set up in the format of her book “Clues in the Calico“. She uses data collected from nearly 1000 quilts, (and for this update, she also has used data from the Kansas Quilt Project and additional observation of quilts since the first book was published) to identify techniques or fabric colors or printed motifs that help to estimate the age of a quilt. These “clues” are given to help someone document a particular quilt, but the information is also valuable for general knowledge of quilt and fabric history. The first installment includes 2 pages of text on the subject, along with a photo of an antique quilt, to illustrate the written information. I think Barbara’s description “The second step is a digital rewrite of Chapter 6 (from ‘Clues in the Calico’) “Clues in Techniques” in the form of a weekly e-mailed newsletter” explains the intent of this offering. I still have her original e-mail about the newsletter, if anyone wants a copy, please e-mail me off the list. Barbara’s e-mail newsletter will focus on “techniques” rather than information on dyes, colors and patterns. Hope this explains “what” the newsletter offers for you. Happy Quilting!! Karan
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:43:08 -0500 | From: Sharon in NC <patchworksecrets2@>
My understanding of that particular seller is she buys old fabrics, which could be debatable as to their age, then claims to have a single quilter that works for her turn them into small doll quilts. I often wonder, when being reminded of her sales, how much she actually pays the lady who makes the quilts. So while the fabrics may be old, the quilts themselves, are actually brand new.
Sharon in NC
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:47:59 -0500 | From: Judy Kelius <quilts@>
At 09:10 AM 3/4/2005, you wrote: >I’d be interested in knowing whether Brackman’s newsletters are essentially >the same information as her articles published in QNL Magazine. Anyone >know? > >Jan Drechsler
I think most of her articles in QNM are on fabrics or sometimes patterns . . . these newsletters are on “clues” other than fabrics. The first newsletter was on dating by the quilting style.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:59:10 -0600 | From: Kathy Moore <kathymoore@>
Ark Quilts wrote:
Subject: Quilt Items on Ebay From: Ark Quilts <quiltarkmv@> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:00:44 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 6
“Did anyone on the list try to find out information on the Ebay vendor “sirmarkw” who is selling “DOLL QUILTS” “made by the Amish” that are “70 to 80 years old”. The description (rather lengthy) also goes on to describe the size as about 22″ x 28″ (isn’t that about the size of a pillow cover?) with a flap in the back. The vendor calls them “haps”. Any comments? I think these items resemble the pillow covers sold with the imported quilts. Just Curious in NW Ohio–C. Ark”
They sure look like pillow shams to me!
Kathy Moore
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:19:18 -0500 | From: munsey@
I am not sure if there is a connection or not, but in the 1890s Sister Dorothy Durgin of the Canterbury, NH, Shakers became well known as the originator of a hooded woolen cloak that was very popular in and outside of Shaker communities. It eventually became known as the “Dorothy Cloak”. During the same general time period, the Shakers also produced for their own use and for sale a very simple “workbag” or “sewing bag” with a circular base made from cardboard or an embroidery hoop (Beverly Gordon, Shaker Textile Arts, University Press of New England, 1980/1983). Gordon doesn’t refer to the sewing bag name as a “Dorothy bag”, although she does refer to “Dorothy cloak”. I wonder if there is a connection — besides in my own mind <G>. The Dorothy bag reference to Dorothy of Oz doesn’t really click to me because that Dorothy carried a basket. I found a Google reference which described a Dorothy bag being a Red Cross project during WW I in which personal items, such as soap and shaving equipment, were sent to soldiers. The sample pictured is a simple plain cotton draw string bag. This clue doesn’t help much because both Shaker Dorothy Durgin (1880s) and Frank Baum’s Dorothy in Oz (original copyright 1899) predate WW I.
Sandra on sunny but cold Cape Cod (come on down, all you skiers)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:47:42 -0500 | From: Cathy Hooley
A few of the Copake Auction items with sale prices are posted at http://www.copakeauction.com/2005-02-19/p01.html Cathy ****************************************** Cathy Hooley Goose Tracks Quilts
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 13:21:42 -0600 | From: Debby Rake <dsrake@>
Hello I have just received my first issue of Barbara Brackman’s new E-newsletter. I thought it was very good and well worth having. It included a short essay on dating quilts by the quilting, a photograph to illustrate some points, and a reference to other photographs on the web for additional examples. As always, Brackman’s writing is clear and packed with information. Deb Rake
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I have lost the address for getting Brackman’s e newsletter….would someone be kind enough to forward it to me! Thank you so much for any help! Mary in Ohio
From: Karan Flanscha
Here is a copy of the letter she sent out… info on how to subscribe is included. I was very happy with the first newsletter, which came out last Sunday… Karan
—–Original Message—– From: Karan Flanscha [ To: Quilt History List Subject: [qhl] A Digital Newsletter from Barbara Brackman
Barbara Brackman is starting an e-mail newsletter on quilt/fabric history… I have her permission to share this with interested quilters… feel free to share it with other quilt history fans!!
The Quilt Detective: Clues in the Needlework
A Digital Newsletter from Barbara Brackman
In 1989, I wrote Clues in the Calico: A Guide to Identifying and Dating Quilts. Evelyn P. Metzger was kind enough to publish it under her EPM Publishing Company imprint, a rather risky business at a time when quilt history did not sell many copies. Evelyn later retired and sold her business to Howell Press. The book is now out of print and needs to be revised, so I have been planning an extensive rewrite based on print and digital information.
The first step is the new print book from C&T, America’s Printed Fabrics 1770-1890, which is an expansion of Chapter 4 “Clues in Color and Dyes.” I plan over the next few years to do another print book extending America’s Printed Fabrics from 1890 to 1950. New color printing and scanning techniques make this the perfect time to publish accurate color pictures of antique fabrics.
The second step is a digital rewrite of Chapter 6 “Clues in Techniques” in the form of a weekly e-mailed newsletter called The Quilt Detective: Clues in the Needlework. Each week subscribers will receive a short summary of a needlework technique important to quilt dating and identification. As in the original book, information will be based on my database of date-inscribed quilts, observations of undated quilts and a summary of related literature from sources such as the American Quilt Study Group’s publications and other reliable quilt and needlework history.
Subscribers can store the information digitally or print it out to make a notebook of dating clues. The weekly newsletter will contain about 400 words ( a digestible amount of history) and will generally include a photographic attach-ment plus information about where to find related articles and quilts pictured on the web.
The weekly newsletter will begin about March 1st and continue through 2005. The first months issues will be free to any interested subscribers and after that I will charge a subscription fee of about $1 per week or $36 for the rest of the year. If you would prefer a print version mailed with a stamp on it you may subscribe in that fashion (see subscription instructions below)
The topics will be (roughly) the following:
March Quilting April Piecing May Applique June Embroidery July Foundation Piecing August Tying & Comforters September Inscriptions October Novelty Techniques November To Be Announced December Binding & Edges
Subscribing digitally E-mail me (bbrackman@) indicating that you would like to receive the sample copies free in March and I will add you to the sample subscription list. If you like, you may also mail me via snail mail a check for $36 now and I will add you to the paid subscriber list. Mail the check (payable to Barbara Brackman) to me at my mailing address. I can’t do charge cards so we’ll have to rely on checks.
Barbara Brackman PMB #C-237 3115 W 6th St. Lawrence, KS 66049
Subscribing to a printed copy I am hoping everyone will want to get this digitally since it is so efficient, inexpensive and easy for me to send. BUT IF YOU MUST have a printed copy, I will accommodate you. I will, however, charge you more. The printed copies will be mailed once a month and will cost twice as much, so please send a check for $72 for the nine-month subscription. Mail the check to me (payable to Barbara Brackman) at my mailing address. Do indicate on your check or in a note that you want the once-a-month printed newsletter.
Date: Sat, | From: Janstormy@
Anyone considering bidding on this seller’s items should read all the fine print, particularly condition reports, shipping, bidder premium (15-20%), taxes. I would have to want something very bad to bid with this seller. Janet
Date: Sat, 5 | From: Janstormy@
Actually, the seller never said these were old quilts. What was said is that Amish quiltmakers were hired to make doll quilts from vintage fabrics provided to them.
I think this was a case of too much information muddying the water. The seller went on and on, and the important details got lost.
The seller also professed that the Amish quiltmakers were the best in the world. Maybe some of them are, but I’ve also heard stories to the contrary.
Barb’s comment on fancy machine work was interesting. I know the Amish convert modern machines to treadle. But I don’t know how fancy they can get with them, regarding stitches. It’s possible the seller is confusing Amish with Mennonite. The Mennonites are far less restricted. Also, some Amish communities are less restrictive than others. I was surprised to learn that Mexico has a large Amish community.
At any rate, these are modern quilts made for the “English”, as they refer to people outside their community. Janet
From: Judy Kelius <quilts@>
This is a live auction listing on eBay – regardless of how you bid – live, by phone, or on eBay – you will pay a 15% buyer’s premium. Buyer’s premiums, usually 10-15%, are standard business practice in the live auction world today. Pook & Pook is a very reputable auction house that gets some wonderful antiques.
From: Newbie Richardson
This is interesting. N
—–Original Message—– From: munsey@
I am not sure if there is a connection or not, but in the 1890s Sister Dorothy Durgin of the Canterbury, NH, Shakers became well known as the originator of a hooded woolen cloak that was very popular in and outside of Shaker communities. It eventually became known as the “Dorothy Cloak”. During the same general time period, the Shakers also produced for their own use and for sale a very simple “workbag” or “sewing bag” with a circular base made from cardboard or an embroidery hoop (Beverly Gordon, Shaker Textile Arts, University Press of New England, 1980/1983). Gordon doesn’t refer to the sewing bag name as a “Dorothy bag”, although she does refer to “Dorothy cloak”. I wonder if there is a connection — besides in my own mind <G>. The Dorothy bag reference to Dorothy of Oz doesn’t really click to me because that Dorothy carried a basket. I found a Google reference which described a Dorothy bag being a Red Cross project during WW I in which personal items, such as soap and shaving equipment, were sent to soldiers. The sample pictured is a simple plain cotton draw string bag. This clue doesn’t help much because both Shaker Dorothy Durgin (1880s) and Frank Baum’s Dorothy in Oz (original copyright 1899) predate WW I.
Sandra on sunny but cold Cape Cod (come on down, all you skiers)
Gloria, Are you still in the KC area? We just moved from Lees Summit, MO. which is in the KC metro area to Texas. A Big change. Having to get used to alot of new territory including mapping out the BEST fabric stores and sewing shows and craft shows and………..Everything!
From: Janstormy@
I underxtand all that. But after all the confusion over the doll quilt listings, I wanted to remind people to read the fine print. This auctioneer’s practices may be common in auction houses, but come as a surprise to ebay bidders. Nothing against the auctioneer, just want people to be aware of all the terms. Janet
From: Sally Ward
I’m cleaning up my bookmarks, and found this site which holds a magazine article by Dorothy Osler about North Country Quilts.
I have no recollection of finding this page before, or of bookmarking it (!) or of whether I recommended it to the list at the time.
So just in case, here it is (possibly again <G>)
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1026/is_6_159/ai_111453729
Happy Mothers Day all!
Sally W
— Sally (‘Tatters’) Ward
From: Steve & Jean Loken
Hi, I’m making a replica of a redwork quilt which was made for the St. Louis 1904 World’s Fair, and which features blocks of buildings at the fair. I saw the quilt in St. Louis at the art museum last spring in a display for the centennial of the fair, and bought the pattern for the blocks in nearby St. Charles. The pattern, however, doesn’t show the layout of the blocks or the setting. Does anyone have a photo of the original quilt or know where I can find it? I wasn’t allowed to photograph at the museum, nor did I take the time to sketch it. I didn’t even know then that a pattern was available. The blocks also include President [T.] Roosevelt and his wife, if that helps jog someone’s memory. Thanks a million. Jean in MN
From: Judy White
Ilene, the first issue of BB’s newsletter came out on 2/28 and the second issue came out today. In order to get on the mailing list this is what to do:
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Judy White
Quilt Restorer and Teacher
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:22:07 EST | From: Midnitelaptop@
you might try going to http://www.slam.org/ and then on the menu clicking on email addresses..and writing to someone on the email list jeanL
From: Gail Ingram
This is neither monumental nor very novel, just another instance of the commonplace association of quilting with clothing at an earlier time.
My junior-senior class and I have just completed a study of I Henry IV, one of Shakespeare’s history plays, written in last decade of 16th century. This is the play where the young Prince Hal grows up and becomes the man he must be to succeed his father and become Henry V.
In the process he must give up the bad company with which he is running, chief among them the cynical and pragmatic Falstaff, a version of the old Lord of Misrule—a man whose character is represented by his corpulence, in an age where famine was rife. The play is full of reference to his greed and fat.
At one point Hal calls Falstaff “old quilt,” to suggest the layer of fat that covers him.
Naturally my students interpreted it to suggest shadiness, “hidden from view,” drawing on the bedcover definition. But….
That’s it: nothing major, just another instance of something we know.
From North Louisiana, where I spied the first Indica azalea blosssom this weekend, Gail Ingram