March 18 - 23, 2004 - QuiltHistory

Fabric Identification, Quilt Dating, Quilt History Resources, Restoration & Conservation

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Primary topics of this QHL Digest:

Airing vs. Washing, Continued — The airing-vs-washing thread from the prior digest wraps up with tips on protecting quilts during a light dryer tumble. (see the article on cleaning antique quilts)
Removing Old Oil and Grease Stains — Members trade remedies for oil stains on antique pillowcases and textiles, including Dawn Liquid, Lestoil, naphtha, and Coleman stove fuel. (see the article on stain removal)
A Resource List of Quilt Magazines Worldwide — Laura Fisher’s request for international quilt-magazine contacts draws replies naming publications from Australia, France, and beyond.
The Quilt Bus Makes American Profile Magazine — List members celebrate Kris Driessen and the Quilt Bus being featured in American Profile magazine’s March 21 issue.
Signature Quilt Database Update — Nancy Hornback reports on progress toward the proposed Signature Quilt Database that members have been asking about.
A New Circa-1880 Quilt Acquisition — A member describes a newly acquired circa-1880 quilt in reds, pinks, browns, and madders on a shirting-print background.
Understanding “Crocking” — A member’s question about what “crocking” means launches an explanation of surface dye transfer between fabrics, especially with reds and indigo blues.

From: “Velia Lauerman” <velialive@>

Yes Judy, You are absolutely correct. Best to watch the quilts that have been sandwiched between sheets in the air tumbler cycle for a short time. No fabric softener paper as I have heard done. Even a little of those smelly papers are harmful if left to touch the quilt. The horror stories keep me away from driers for our somewhat sensitive pieces. When hanging outside, yes, a muslin cover under and over helps to air. Velia

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 | From: “Judy Anne” <anne_j@>

Julie,

Truly a pathetic plagiarism. <sigh> It is kind of funny as it is sooo far off reality but I am getting so tired of Ebay sellers copying articles from my website. I used to write a friendly letter letting the seller know they need to get permission to use someone else’s writing but after a couple of really nasty characters I just cringe and hope not many people will see my article before the auction ends.

BTW your page is truly classy and the quilt is to die for.

Judy Anne

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:28:36 -0500 | From: “Judy Kelius (judysue)” <judysue@>

The seller guilty of the plagiarism apparently got so many emails chastising her that she cancelled the listing and relisted the quilt (with lots of apologies). She handled it very graciously (her reply was much more gracious than the email I sent her – I told her she should be ashamed!).

Here is the relist: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63631&item=3712409413.

I’ve had other sellers copy my listings as well, although never to this extent! Usually the items had something in common other than being quilts <GR>.

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:32:44 EST | From: DDBSTUFF@

In a message dated 3/19/2004 12:18:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, qhl@ writes: BTW…we’ve been talking about setting dyes….does anyone have a good cleaning tip to get the old “oil stains” out of pillow cases? I have about 20 from my Grandmother, some embroidered but most plain, that I’d like to try and clean…and none of my “traditional” methods have worked Try soaking in Coleman Stove Fuel. It is a very clean fuel and will not leave a residue. I learned about this many years ago from an oriental rug cleaner. After soaking, blot and wash. It has worked for me in many situations especially on grease On note of caution. Don’t smoke while using this.

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:35:53 -0800 | From: “Leah Zeiber” <leah.zieber@>

Best oil stain remover I have ever found is Dawn Liquid. Full strength or diluted applied directly onto cloth (in my case clothing not antique textiles) – allow to sit for an hour or so then wash in warm water (though cold water works on colored clothing, too.)

Leah Z

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:43:48 -0500 | From: Judy Roche <jrocheq@>

Hi Judy Sorry that you have not heard from me-lets just say that my dance card has been full– As for next Tuesday-I am not sure I will be there as we are going down to Va-for our grandaughters 4th birthday party( a princess tea party!) and am not sure when we will be back–wanted to go to the Baltimore Museum on the way down, but doubt if we can fit it in(the dear snow!)and get there at 3:30—– Hope that your shop is now in at least tolerable condition—moving is never a joy—-until months later! If I do not get home in time , to see ‘you all’ ,how about having lunch one day–I’ll find my way to your shop if you prefer! Judy in Pa

J. G. Row wrote:

>So many people have cancelled for tomorrow, March 16th, because of predicted >bad weather (snow and ice pellets here) that I am going to cancel our >meeting tomorrow and postpone it until next Tuesday, March 23rd, the 4th >Tuesday of this month, and only for this meeting. > >Again, please let me know if you will be able to attend. > >Today is such gorgeous weather, and tomorrow calls for snow and ice pellets! >March is so unpredictible. Thirty-three years ago I drove to the hospital >in a raging snowstorm on March 31st to have my first child who wound up an >April Fool baby! > >I hope to ssee you next week. > >Judy “the Ringo Kid” in

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:40:36 -0800 | From: “Laura Fisher” <laurafisher@>

> > >Hi all – I am trying to compile a resource list for publicity about >future projects, quilt things, etc. that includes magazines and >publishers internationally who are concentrating on quilts. > >I have info about QuiltMania in France, and Quilts Japan. I assume there >may be similar magazines in England, Germany, Holland, Switzerland, etc. > >I would be grateful if anyone could forward the names and addresses of >quilting publications resources they know of anywhere in the world! > >Thanks for your help. > >Laura Fisher >——=_NextPart_000_0050_01C40D9E.9D157700– >

Hi Here’s the web-site for the New Zealand Quilter: http://www.nzquilter.com/

The Brits have British Patchwork and Quilting: http://www.pandq.traplethouse.com/

France has, besides QuiltMania (which is also published in Dutch), a periodical called Magic Patch

http://www.comptoir-phoceen.fr/patchwork/index.html?targetÞpt_67.html&lang =fr

If memory serves, quite a few of the European guilds have excellent magazines – the Dutch and German guilds’ especially.

Hope this helps Ady in Israel

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:58:36 -0800 (PST) | From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessen@>

Can I brag? Just a little?

http://americanprofile.com/issues/20040321/20040321_3778.asp

I don’t get this magazine (it’s a Sunday insert) so if anyone gets it, I would *really* appreciate an original.

Kris

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:24:15 -0500 | From: “deb” <deb@>

Kris,

What a nice article! Congratulations!

Debbie Bayville, NJ

Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 07:59:39 +1100 | From: “Karen and Paul Fail” <kfail@>

Hi Laura, I am the Editor of Quilters Companion magazine in Australia. contact details for any publicity are Karen Fail, 17 Peter Close, Hornsby Heights NSW 2077 Australia. ph 61 2 94822216, mobile 0425 202 838, email kfail@. Or contact the magazine Lucy Arblaster, Universal Magazines, Unit 5, 6-8 Byfield Rd, Nth Ryde NSW 2113 Australia. Ph 61 2 98050399 fax 61 2 9805 0741 Thanks Karen —– Original Message —– From: “Laura Fisher” <laurafisher@> To: “Quilt History List” <qhl@> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:40 AM Subject: [qhl] quilt mags international

Hi all – I am trying to compile a resource list for publicity about future projects, quilt things, etc. that includes magazines and publishers internationally who are concentrating on quilts.

I have info about QuiltMania in France, and Quilts Japan. I assume there may be similar magazines in England, Germany, Holland, Switzerland, etc.

I would be grateful if anyone could forward the names and addresses of quilting publications resources they know of anywhere in the world!

Thanks for your help.

Laura Fisher

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:57:51 -0500 | From: “Anne Datko” <datkoa@>

Today’s (March 19) cover of Washington (DC) Times’ magazine section, ‘American Profile,’ featured the Driessens and the Quilt Bus. Nice lead article as well. Fun to see List Mom, if not in person, then at least in print! AnneD ——=_NextPart_000_0337_01C40DCA.EEA4F740–

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:39:26 -0500 | From: Joan Kiplinger <jkip@>

For addicts, bias tape is now on eboard. http://vintagepictures.eboard.com See first tab.

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:20:53 -0600 | From: Laura Syler <texas_quilt.co@>

Sounds like a version of the naphtha treatment! As I happen to have a can with the camping gear, I’ll give it a try and report back. Since these are my own cases, and not a clients, I feel I can forge ahead and give it a shot. Thank goodness there are no smokers in my house!! Thanks for the suggestion! Laura

DDBSTUFF@ wrote:

> In a message dated 3/19/2004 12:18:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, > qhl@ writes: > BTW…we’ve been talking about setting dyes….does anyone have a > good cleaning tip to get the old “oil stains” out of pillow > cases? I have about 20 from my Grandmother, some embroidered but > most plain, that I’d like to try and clean…and none of my > “traditional” methods have worked > Try soaking in Coleman Stove Fuel. It is a very clean fuel and will not > leave a residue. I learned about this many years ago from an oriental rug > cleaner. After soaking, blot and wash. It has worked for me in many situations > especially on grease > On note of caution. Don’t smoke while using this. > > — > You are currently subscribed to qhl as: texas_quilt.co@. > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-qhl-1514145N@

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:38:24 EST | From: Karen Evans

What a nice article! Long live the Quilt Bus! 🙂

Karen Evans

P.S. I plan to be at the Pioneer Valley Quilt Guild’s show in Agawam, Massachusetts, tomorrow. Is anyone else from the list going to be there? I’d love to say hello!

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:43:59 -0800 | From: “Christine Thresh” <christine@>

The article about the Quilt Bus and the Driessens was wonderful. http://americanprofile.com/issues/20040321/20040321_3778.asp

One part of the article made me think about the Chimney Sweep blocks we made for Kris after the fire. It said, “Friends donated quilts and fabric and individuals made and signed quilt blocks to be assembled into a quilt…’That quilt will be prominently displayed in my new home,’ Kris says.'”

Did the blocks get to Kris? How many blocks were sent?

Christine Thresh

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:10:37 -0800 (PST) | From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessen@>

No, they never did:-(( And I have no memory of who made that promise. Maybe she is still working on it, you know how quilters get. But the ones Ami Simms organized are here and have a place of honor in our new family room, which has a high enough ceiling so they can be hung completely and not folded over a rod. You can see a picture of them here: http://www.amisimms.com/hearquilup.html

Kris

— Christine Thresh <christine@> wrote: > The article about the Quilt Bus and the Driessens was wonderful. > http://americanprofile.com/issues/20040321/20040321_3778.asp > > One part of the article made me think about the Chimney Sweep > blocks we made > for Kris after the fire. It said, “Friends donated quilts and > fabric and > individuals made and signed quilt blocks to be assembled into a > quilt…’That quilt will be prominently displayed in my new home,’ > Kris > says.'” > > Did the blocks get to Kris? How many blocks were sent? > > Christine Thresh > > > — > You are currently subscribed to qhl as: krisdriessen@. > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-qhl-1441495D@

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:16:56 +1000 | From: “Quiltstuff” <quiltstuff@>

have you got the Aussie ones? There are three. Australian patchwork and quilting… Down under quilts… and Quilter’s Companion. Three different publishers and a search should give you their web sites. Suzy Atkins QUILTSTUFF Machine Quilting Service Brisbane 07 38765274 My Quilting Photos. http://community.webshots.com/user/quiltstuff —– Original Message —– From: “Laura Fisher” <laurafisher@> To: “Quilt History List” <qhl@> Sent: Saturday, 20 March 2004 4:40 AM Subject: [qhl] quilt mags international

Hi all – I am trying to compile a resource list for publicity about future projects, quilt things, etc. that includes magazines and publishers internationally who are concentrating on quilts.

I have info about QuiltMania in France, and Quilts Japan. I assume there may be similar magazines in England, Germany, Holland, Switzerland, etc.

I would be grateful if anyone could forward the names and addresses of quilting publications resources they know of anywhere in the world!

Thanks for your help.

Laura Fisher

Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:06:39 -0000 | From: “Audrey Cameron” <audreycameron@>

Dear Laura,

Here are the names of the 4 leading quilt magazines in the UK. I can send addresses if you wish but I gave you websites so you can see more about each. The in-house mag The Quilter is the best (but no patterns usually). Hope this helps

Fabrications “Patchwork & Quilting with Embroidery” http://www.grosvenor-publishing.co.uk/

Popular Patchwork www.popularpatchwork.co.uk

British Patchwork & Quilting www.pandqmagazine.com

The Quilter (received with membership to the national organization: The Quilters’ Guild of the British Isles) www.quiltersguild.org.uk

Audrey Cameron in Lincolnshire, England where Spring might just be around several corners. audreycameron@ Audrey Cameron in Lincolnshire, England audreycameron@

Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 09:12:08 -0500 | From: “Velia Lauerman” <velialive@>

Dear Leah, Thanks for the tip on Dawn liquid. Just as Avon SSS we tend to overlook the natural remedies sold as new . I can still hear Mom and Grand Mom saying “We used to use ta ta ta and we just passed it by. Love “My Greek Wedding” and the laughs they got using Windex. Velia

Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 | From: “Anne Datko” <datkoa@>

To remove oil/grease stains from clothing I put “Lestoil” directly on the spot. Recommended to me by dairy farm family where the men often got real grease stains on their clothes. It always works, even when I’ve not spotted the spot (pun intended) until after the item has been in the dryer. I have never noticed a problem with color or texture when used on my T-shirts that, as I get older, more often have spaghetti sauce spashed on them. I do not know if this will work on the pillowcases and I do not know if the product is safe for the textiles often discussed on the list. Alternative local source found via Google when grocery discontinued the product. AnneD

Subject: Re: removing oil From: “Leah Zeiber” <leah.zieber@> Date: Fri,

From: “Barb Durtche” <barbd@>

My Mom swore by this stuff……with silk, cotton aprons, you name it. I love the scent! —–

From: Daniele Seyrig <d.seyrig@>

Laura , there is also Magic Patch a french magazine , translated i think in English and Dutch but I am not sure .They also publish issues on a special subject or techniques (the last one of these is an issue on Amish quilts and way of life with quilts from the collection of Jacques Legeret ). Les Nouvelles du Patchwork , magazine of the french guild and this month a new one came out wich I will check out next time I go to the bookstore and will let you know the exact title . I only buy Quiltmania as I am not interested enough in contemporary quilting to buy all of them most magazine beeing contemporary oriented . If you need more info , please let me know Daniele near Paris and in the middle of nowhere in the Auvergne

From: “Marilyn Maddalena”

Hi, QHLers — I’m still trying to recover from the big surprise of receiving an offer which I couldn’t refuse. My new hubby and I are leaving in two weeks to join the 4th leg of the Crystal Cruise Lines 2004 Inaugural World Cruise of their new ship, Serenity, in Capetown, South Africa. We’ll cruise for 29 days in the Atlantic, up the east coast of South America — Columbia, Brazil, British Virgin Islands, etc. — landing in New York on May 5th. During this time I’ll be lecturing on various quilt-related topics and working with the crew and passengers to make a quilt for the cruise. I’ve designed it using the Attic Windows block and shipped some of the materials already, but am still madly cutting fabric strips and trying to get photo transfers done. One of my lectures will be Quilting Around the World, and I wanted everyone on this list to know that I’ve learned so much from all the posts you’ve put on QHL and I have you to thank for some of the information I’ll be presenting. The cruise passengers aren’t quilters — so it’s a real challenge, but I’m looking forward to it. My husband and I got married in Hawaii the end of January and honeymooned there for 10 days. We thought that was the ultimate honeymoon — and now this!! I’ll have my laptop on board and will be able to access the Internet, so hopefully I won’t miss out on too many posts from QHL while I’m out there. You just never know where your words will end up — even in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. I’ll be doing a blog on my website, if anyone wants to “follow along” on this wonderful trip. Life is good!!!

Marilyn Maddalena Withrow Professional Quilt Appraiser, Judge, Historian and Speaker www.marilynquilts.com

From: “Velia Lauerman” <velialive@>

When my dear mom and I quilted we naturally took a little break and go to lunch.One day she opened a butter pat and noticed it was empty. Mom ! the melted butter is on you blouse !I began using fabric protector on the shirts and blouses. Now I find myself in the same shape. Often in a bit of a hurry sew , now use quiltguard fabric protector before the butter spot. Velia

From: “Velia Lauerman”

Also looking for spanish quilt magazines. Alex Anderson has a book in Spanish. If any one lives in california or florida seems as though there would be more magazines there. Soon we will all have to learn the language as the baseball games began. Detroit Tigers have lots of latin names and have fun rolling r’s. Translating Antonio Bandaras into Anthony Banners always brings a chuckle. Velia

Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:39:43 -0600 | From: louise-b <vlbequet@>

We get the American Profile magazine in the Sunday Moberly (MO) Monitor-Index so will send you a copy for your files.

How many states have you gone to at this time?

Louise Bequette — in mid-Missouri
—
Kris, So glad to note Louise’s letter about sending you the article. (Good Girl!!!)

I’d never heard of this paper until I read your request. Only a few hours later I met a friend from another town in MO at our quilt show in MO and she was waving her copy in my face because she thought I should read it!!! Amazing!

She had no idea that I even knew who you were! And she wouldn’t let me get a word in edgewise!!! She proceeded to tell me that NY state was NOT just NY City!! I was roaring with laughter inside but kept a straight face. She is such a sweet person — in a wheel chair following surgery and a specialist in Redwork. But I finally told her that I was thrilled to be given the article and explained that I’d send it to you! The reason I was laughing, fellow QHLFs, was that I’d lived in upper NY state for 5 years and my husband lived there most of his youthful years. It is HOME to me!

Kris, I’ll keep the article in my scrapbook. But if Louise’s gets lost along the way, let me know and it is yours! But it was such fun to have that all happen on the same day! Congratulations!

oh yes…wonderful show…I bought 3 books on vintage fabrics/linens/quilts from one vendor. I showed an amazing funky quilt of mine – not quite vintage – I’d guess the 70s. A viewer told me she had the pattern in an old magazine, so I’ll spend this afternoon looking through my very early Stitch n Sew or Quilt World mags. I like to include copies of patterns with each old quilt if I can. A KC* pattern, for instance, helps verify the reason I bought a quilt at a flea market! It completes the story & history of the quilt.

But this was the last time I’ll work from 8 to 5 for 2 days in a row to set up, run, and take down a Show and a Booth!!! How can PURE FUN be so exhausting? cb from MO OZ

From: “Charlotte Bull” <charloumo@>

Kris, So glad to note Louise’s letter about sending you the article. (Good Girl!!!)

Kris, I’ll keep the article in my scrapbook. But if Louise’s gets lost along the way, let me know and it is yours! But it was such fun to have that all happen on the same day! Congratulations!

But this was the last time I’ll work from 8 to 5 for 2 days in a row to set up, run, and take down a Show and a Booth!!! How can PURE FUN be so exhausting? cb from MO OZ

Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:02:34 -0800 (PST) | From: Kris Driessen <krisdriessen@>

Thanks, Charlotte! As it turns out, we have heard from a number of people who are sending us copies so I have plenty to brag with. If you want to keep a copy, I am happy!

Changing the subject: I heard from Bob Postier in Guidehall VT who wanted to send me his mothers collection of Helping Hands, a British magazine which was published in the 1970’s. It’s not about quilting specifically, its more about general needlework – knitting, crochet, cross-stitch, sewing, that sort of thing. I politely declined – not that I am uninterested, it’s just that I can’t keep up with the magazines I get now! But if anyone else is interested, give him a call at (802) 962-5286. He does want to sell them, or at least get his shipping reimbursed.

Kris

— Charlotte Bull <charloumo-net.com> wrote: > Kris, So glad to note Louise’s letter about sending you the > article. > (Good Girl!!!) >

Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:55:09 -0600 | From: “Nancy Hornback” <nancy96@>

There has been a lot of interest in the proposed Signature Quilt Database, and many of you have asked for more specific information. Now we can report to you that serious discussions have been initiated with The Quilt Index project directors and advisory team about making a site on The Quilt Index for signature quilts. A slightly modified Index template will make it possible for us to enter our signature quilt data, and a mechanism will be created to search both the Index’s state quilt project databases and the data from the signature quilt project.

Thank you for your patience — we will soon give details about how each of us can add our own signature quilts to the database.

–Nancy Hornback

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:15:48 +1000 | From: “Quiltstuff” <quiltstuffoptusnet.com.au>

Hi all, I have just received a lovely ‘new’ quilt for my collection. It is circa 1880. The blocks are predominantly reds, pinks, browns and madders on a background of a shirting print with a black motif. It is fairly crisp but certainly not in unwashed condition.

The down side is that in a lot of the alternate blocks is a ghost image of the pink/red brown prints. It si caused by crocking rather than running dyes and is pretty much an exact mirror image of the coloured patches form when it was folded ( maybe folded damp??)

I was wondering whether anyone had experience in trying to remove these areas. I was thinking of washing it with a dye magnet… but am happy to try anything. It spoils an other wise lovely quilt… and of course is the reason the quilt was well priced.

TIA Suzy

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:42:50 -0500 | From: Eileen Doughty <ef.doughty@>

I saw this on another quilt-related list today. Maybe it would be of interest to members of this list. (and hopefully won’t stir up a hornet’s nest like the UGRR)

eileen doughty http://www.DoughtyDesigns.com

From: “Jodie Davis” <JodieDavisadelphia.net>

This summer Friends in the Bee is taking to the Oregon Trail to shoot a very special episode. We’ll be boarding Conestoga wagons, riding horses, and even taking a surrey along the Lander Pass, following the footsteps of the pioneers. We have a lot of surprises in store, and Terry Thompson will be with us to bring the past to life. If you want to relive our foremothers’ move west, check out either web site below. We can take only 16 quilters–make that “pioneers”– with us, so if you’re interested act quickly! Hope to see you on the trail,

Jodie Davis www.iejodie.com www.friendsinthebee.com

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:52:24 -0500 | From: “Carol’s Quilt Closet” <imaquilter2@>

Could anyone please explain “crocking.”

I’d like to say I’m too young…….. and only know of cooking in a “crock” pot, or pickling in a “crock”, and sometimes it’s a “crock” to me but crocking on fabric doesn’t ring a bell.

Inquisitive minds want to know. Thank you, Carol

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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:00:39 -0500 | From: aol.com

Crocking means that surface dye on one piece of fabric rubs onto another piece of fabric. You see it with reds that aren’t colorfast, and particularly with indigo blues that haven’t been dyed properly.

Karen Evans

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:49:16 -0700 | From: “Jeananne Wright” <oldquilts@>

I have had no luck at all removing stains caused by the crocking off that you mentioned. If anyone has a good formula for it, I am anxious to know. The crocking that I have is from the cheddar, ca. 1860. I don’t think the quilt needs to be damp, necessarily. The surface dye just transfers to the adjacent piece of fabric, even if dry. I have many other quilts with cheddar that do not crock, so it is probably a difference in dye formulas. Jeananne Wright Longmont, CO —– Original Message —– From: “Quiltstuff” <quiltstuffoptusnet.com.au> To: “Quilt History List”

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:02:18 +1000 | From: “Quiltstuff” <quiltstuffoptusnet.com.au>

I know someone explained crocking earlier but I remember being taught when I first started quilting in 96 that you should check your fabrics to see if they run and also to see if they will ‘crock’ To do this you just rub a white cloth over the dry fabric. They mentioned red fabric is always a worry

Sad to hear that no one has had any success removing it… I actually have just acquired two with crocking so may experiment on the younger one. In a way , it must only be dye on the surface.

Suzy > > Could anyone please explain “crocking.” >

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:41:50 EST | From: aol.com

One reason red is notorious for running is that red dyes don’t bond as well to the dyed goods as other colors do. That’s why Turkey red was so popular – it *didn’t* crock or run. And unfortunately, most aniline reds still aren’t as washfast or crockfast as Turkey red.

Hm. I might, just *might*, try Turkey red this summer. *shudders at the thought*

Karen Evans

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:43:36 -0500 | From: munsey@

My daughter was “gifted” with a trunk full of good quality classic wool clothes which have been stored in a basement trunk for 20-30 years. The smell was described as “reeeeally bad”. Since some of the items would fit her or her teenage daughter, she would like to rescue at least them. She washed them in cold water and Chlorox 2, which has hydrogen peroxide in it, I believe. Result? No improvement. Long term airing outside isn’t a possibility where she lives. Any suggestions before she gives them a decent burial? Thank you for any forthcoming advice. Sandra on Cape Cod, where it is sunny, but still cold.

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:11:14 -0500 | From: Joan Kiplinger <jkip@>

Sandra — there are some conservators and silk/wool specialists who use the following method. Not a quickie but maybe worth a try — Baking soda is the agent. Lay a piece of tissue paper on bottom of box or container large enough to expose the piece or item. Sprinkle tissue generously with soda. Then lay a layer of tissue on that, place item on that, cover with another tissue, springle generously and close box or container. Leave for several days. Remove, shake outside, repeat if odor still lingers. This method from an importer of silk and wool bolts from China. I tried it on a moldy wool sweater with great success first time around.

munsey@ wrote:

>Any suggestions before she gives >them a decent burial? Thank you for any forthcoming advice. >Sandra on Cape Cod, where it is sunny, but still cold. > > > > >

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:15:01 -0500 | From: “Quilters Studio” <quilterstudio@>

Sandra, I would suggest that your daughter take one piece of the musty clothing to a quality dry cleaner, not a martinizing service or a do it yourself machine in a laundromat. Be sure to tell the dry cleaner about the specific problem when she brings in the garment. I have had good luck with this method provided it is just the odor and not water/food stains.

Happy Quilting, Robin Quilter Studio www.quilterstudio.com

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:44:48 -0700 | From: “Cindy Brick” <brickworks@>

Hi all, One of the best new sources for handkerchief dating and values is just out — PRINTED AND LACE HANDKERCHIEFS: INTERPRETING A POPULAR 20TH CENTURY COLLECTIBLE by Betty Wilson (Schiffer, 2003, ISBN: 0-7643-1801-2). Not only does it contain a great deal of history and helpful background info on hankies and accessories, including handkerchief cases, hankie books, “hankieumbrellas” and aprons, but there’s info on many designers — something I don’t believe you’ll find anywhere else. Betty also covers a wide variety of handkerchief styles, including patriotics, unusual shapes, days-of-the-week, holidays, hand-tatted and crocheted edges, juveniles and so on. She mentions the various fibers and print styles (including ways to identify them), and includes a very helpful price list. Every page is in color! You’ll enjoy this book, as well as find it helpful in research. (It’s critical if you handle hankies professionally, like me.) $29.95, and worth every cent. You can order it by visiting Betty Wilson’s website, http://www.oldhankies.com , or e-mailing her at bettyoldhankies.com. There are other 20th century hanky books. Most have wonderful photos and at least some history. But not to the depth of this book…and with the price list and identification info, it’s a real value. And no, I am not making a cent off this recommendation, etc etc. It’s just a terrific book! Cindy Brick

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