July 6 - July 8, 1997 - QuiltHistory

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Primary topics of this QHL Digest:

The Living-Wage Debate Continues — The discussion of fair pay for overseas quiltmakers sharpens with specific wage figures cited for garment workers in Vietnam.
Is the Buttermilk Recipe a General Brightener? — A member asks whether the buttermilk-and-lemon-juice soak works for everyday brightening or is best saved for stain removal.
Fiestaware’s Lead and Uranium Glazes — Talk of classic red Fiestaware turns to concerns about its lead content and radioactive uranium-oxide glaze.
Sourcing Trapunto Needles — A first-time trapunto quilter asks where to find six-inch trapunto needles, prompting supplier suggestions.
An Emergency Response Tool for Collections — A member shares a new Emergency Response and Salvage Wheel resource for protecting textile collections from disaster.
Never Date a Quilt by Color Alone — A cautionary story makes the case against assuming a quilt’s age purely from its fabric colors. (see the article on dating quilts)

Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:23:36 -0700 (PDT) | From: Mary Cross <mbcquilt [at] web-ster [dot] com>

In #164, you asked about other quilts with the same set as the one

on p. 107 in Treasures in the Trunk. The only other one I’ve seen was in the

Missouri Quilt Project book that I footnoted. There it was Railroad and

Depot, a swonderful name for a migration-era quilt I thought. I was really

sorry there wasn’t more documentation in that book because my maker also

lived in Missouri so I was wishing I could find a regional connection. B.

Brackman also noted it her Encyclopedia which I footnoted where it was

called Spider Web, another wonderful name. Let me know what you learn about

the quilt and pattern you have. Mary

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:21:48 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quilt97 [at] aol [dot] com

When someone says women and children in other countries are earning only

$1.60 a day for quilting, that could be actually quite a bit of money in

their local economy.

Elisabeth

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:40:18 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quilt97 [at] aol [dot] com

RE the recent conversations about quilts made from afar, all of the

thoughtful comments did get me to thinking. I have a friend who makes her

living selling antiques used in households. No furniture or large items.

She sells linens and dishes, mostly. No feedsacks. The demand for Fiesta

ware is extremely high. Do any of you fellow older folk remember Fiesta

ware. It was included as a bonus in oatmeal, one piece at a time. It was

given at some gas stations if you filled your tank or bought a certain dollar

amount. >>

Do I remember Fiesta ware? You bet! After a family dinner one Thanksgiving

many years ago in RI, I “helped” by carrying the Fiesta ware plates (the

larger size) from the dining room to the kitchen. Dropped the entire stack!

Guess which one survived? — Mom’s least favorite – the oatmeal colored one.

It is now in my china cabinet. Even thought Mom always hated it when she

broke any dishes; I don’t remember even being yelled at, — I’ll have to ask

my elder sister.

Elisabeth in south TX

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:45:34 -0400 | From: godzilla [at] ns1 [dot] uconect [dot] net (Robinson)

Hi QHL:

Susanne’s Buttermilk recipe sounds interesting — is it a general quilt

brightener, or to be used to remove specific stains?

I’ve just purchased some vintage conversation print fabric –a

“greyed-blue” background with little roly-poly toys and bead doll toys

printed on it. The whole piece is slightly brittle and very yellowed (kind

of like curtains get in a heavy smoker’s house). Do you think a buttermilk

bath would help? I also bought some fabric with a white background that has

litle powder blue watering cans on it. It’s in pretty good shape, except

for discoloration where it was folded. Ditto the buttermilk bath?

Thanks.

Sue Robinson

godzilla [at] ns1 [dot] uconect [dot] net

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 07:43:00 +0400 | From: Xenia Cord <xecord [at] netusa1 [dot] net>

Hi, all: Just an addition to this discussion of the pattern shown by

Mary; I also have this pattern in antique pieces, with a variation on

one. I have a plain red and green top, set on muslin, from Indiana

about 1930-40, and I have a finished quilt, ca. 1900, where the blocks

are set into circles, and the circles are set against a red ground

calico.

The quilt has muslin “arrows” in the triangle strips, set with mixed

late 19th century calico triangles, and is bound in cadet blue calico

over a natural muslin back. It is also from Indiana.

I have always identified this pattern as Odd Fellows Star, but I can’t

document where I learned the name.

Xenia

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:25:43 -0500 (CDT) | From: Phil & Lee Spanner <philspan [at] bucky [dot] win [dot] bright [dot] net>

>the same premis, but NOW they do have SEWING NEEDLES AND THREAD instead

>of knitting needles.

>Little did they know that we are such a force to be recogned

>with!!!<VBG>

I think that at the same time, we quilters are also kind and courteous. I

propose that all of us who sent complaints also send a thank you to them now

showing that quilters are also appreciative people.

Just my .02, what do the rest of you think?

Happy Quilting!

Lee :^)

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:19:43 -0400 (EDT) | From: JQuilt [at] aol [dot] com

It was GREAT reading the article and seeing the pictures in the Pittsburgh

Trib about feedsacks and the feedsack club…I loved the Cinderella Fabric

picture.and the pictures of the Feedsack Femmes…

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Re: quilts from China

.Let’s take a trip to the 30’s,40’s and early 50’s…

America was the leading MANUFACTURING country in the world…Workers were

unionized and making decent wages and consumers bought ONLY what they could

afford …the only items bought on the “Installment Plan” were items like

washing machines, refrigerators, cars and houses..

No one bought toys, accessories or FOOD on credit… People either MADE

things they couldn’t afford to buy…. or accepted the fact, that they might

live their whole life taking “snaps” with their Brownie camera and never own

a Leica…There was an acceptance of “not having everything one wanted”

Then came the Credit Card…..now nothing is out of reach …except the debt

of the Credit Card…

After the corporations broke most of the unions in this country, by moving

their factories to so called “third world” countries…they, then realized

they could, charge outrageous prices and underpay the labor of these

countries…So now they not only didn’t have to pay decent wages…they could

make astronomical profits for themselves and their stock holders….

“The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars but in ourselves”

If we weren’t CONSUMED with satisfying EVERYONE of our needs…workers and

consumers would benefit.. and still have a satisfactory life…

I am retired and live in low income housing….One son gives me his used car

and his used computer, when he upgrades(for my birthday and Mother’s Day

presents)… ..My other son, pays for car insurance(for my birthday and

Mother’s day presents)

I sew my own clothes and quilts, on an old Montgomery Ward sewing machine..

True, I am not able to go to a lot of shows in far off places and I very

rarely take a class or workshop…but I can afford to buy books and fabric…

And for the most part I am truly content…Sure I daydream and fantasize

..but I know that they are daydreams and fantasies…and that’s O.K.

My chief concern is keeping moderately healthy(harder to do, the older I

get)..

Please, the next time you use your Credit Card to buy the latest toy, gadget

or accessory….try to remember all of the factories and factory workers in

the USA that no longer exist…

Jean Laino

jquilt [at] aol [dot] com

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:02:52 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quilt97 [at] aol [dot] com

I can’t remember where I first read about the following two books, but

ordered them through interlibrary loan and rec’d them recently. They are

excellent for beginning young quilters, for teachers, for crafts, etc.

Excellent books.

I’ll Teach Myself – Step Into Patchwork (Dreamspinner Discovery Series) by

Nancy Smith & Lynda Milligan, ISBN 1-880972-09-3, pub. Possibilities at

303-740-6206, intorduces children to sewing maching patchwork – step-by-step

jprojects, games and puzzles, using paper and/or fabric. Ages 7 and up. The

pages are cardboard and there are plastic templates in the back.

There is also Book 1 – Sewing machine fun, and Book 2 – More Sewing Machine

Fun.

Patchwork Math 1, addition and subtraction reproducibles, by Debra Baycura,

Scholastic Professional Books, “provides worksheets to reinforce addition and

subtraction skills. Also introduces historical background about the name of

each quilt design.” (There are 100 quilt designs in this book.) “The

challenge activity at the bottom of each page is an extension activity that

involves language arts, social studies, or math.” Each worksheet is a quilt

pattern.

Sorry Kelli – horses are one of the few things not in this book! 🙂

Elisabeth in south TX where it’s still hot and sunny

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:33:52 -0400 | From: “Miklos B. Lukacs” <mlukacs [at] dns1 [dot] webbernet [dot] net>

What Jean says is so true of lots of people(Jean’s basic premise seems

to me to be-sure go ahead and dream, but don’t let dreaming spoil today)

Of coarse Jean also grew up in the times when I did and the times in

which you grew up shape your outlook on life. Hence my mother, 84 years

old, grew up in hard times, has a comfortable bank account now, but will

not spend an unneccesssary penny. She can’t because it upsets her too

much to do so. I am rambling. Have a good day. Connie L.

p.s. I also read the Tribune article. One more face to put with a

name. You look to be a very pleasant person to know, Baglady. CL

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:00:40 -0500 (CDT) | From: Cynthia A Wall <wallcyn [at] mail [dot] auburn [dot] edu>

I’ve been catching up on my QHL digests & ran across the web address for

the KC Star quilt patterns. SO, I called them. Spoke with Dorothymae

herself! She said that they’ve had the collection since October, but not

much business until last month.

I’ve ordered the entire set, and she’s thrilled. They accept credit card

orders. She’s got a new batch coming out next week, with a cost increase,

but if you say that you say it “on-line” then she’ll give you the old

price and the new printing.

Just thought ya’ll want to know.

Cindy

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Cindy Wall +

wallcyn [at] mail [dot] auburn [dot] edu +

Auburn, Alabama, USA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

“I’ve got a neat house. It’s neat the way all of my fabric brightens up

the floor. It’s neat that I’ve got 3 quilt tops draped over the

furniture. It’s neat that each of my pets have their own quilt. It’s

neat that each of my family is getting (optimal word here is GETTING) a

quilt. My house may not be clean, but it sure is NEAT!”

—–original—–

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:16:22 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quiltfix [at] aol [dot] com

Well, you get the moral of the story first:

NEVER assume the age of a quilt purely by it’s colors.

The auction gods have hated me for a few months. I wasn’t finding

*anything* that interested me, quilts or otherwise. It’s really frustrating,

because I love the auctions. Anyhow, last Saturday it happened again. No

quilts, and nothing else worth bidding on. Went home and planned on visiting

an antique mall the next day.

Went to the antique mall. I came out of the bathroom and saw a rather garish

quilt, Album block, c. 1800’s. Gave it the once-over, really quickly, and

then returned to where I had left off looking. Came back to it after a

while, and I took it down to look at. Saw a black mark on it, looked closer,

and about fell on my keester. “Fanny Maria (D?)arion, Charleston, October

20, 1852″ is what I mistook for a black stain!!!!!!

Needless to say, I was thunderstruck. I don’t normally see quilts that old

here. I opened it up, and it was in excellent condition. The blocks are

made of a white cotton, using a red-with-yellow pattern fabric, two different

“bouton d’or” fabrics (using chrome orange in the manner pink was used for

double pinks). Antimony orange, both plain and with a turquoise leaf pattern

(I’m guessing it’s not chrome orange because there’s no crocking). Also a

tan block print, with a blue dot (poor registration). The outside border is

a pink print that resembles, but isn’t, a seaweed-patterned double pink.

Lots of quilting, not tiny stitches tho’. The reason I’m feeling so certain

about it’s authenticity is that I went home and researched the time periods

the fabric styles were made. They all would have been relatively new and

maybe still stylish, which might explain their being used together.

There’s only one other signature on the quilt. Can’t make out the name , but

it’s “Mrs. (?), Charleston, October 20, 1982”. Two separate handwritings

(correct for the period), and their placement is intentional on the quilt

(one at top center, the other bottom center. Has anyone ever seen a quilt

with so few signatures on it? I briefly considered it might be a forgery,

but then why go to all that trouble and then sell it as a depression quilt?

The quilt’s price tag labeled it as a 1930’s era quilt! I really have to

wonder about the dealer – I mean, good gravy, didn’t they at least look at

the quilt before hanging it up to sell?

Better yet, it’s price reflected the local rates for “ugly” depression era

quilts!

One other question, then I’ll shut up. Someone told me about an old

Mennonite trick to remove small spots from a quilt. She was told to rub

chalkboard chalk on the spot and leave it. It might take six months, but the

stain would be gone, even really old (decades) stains. I don’t disbelieve

that it works, but does anyone know what longterm effects the chalk might

have on a quilt? I don’t have any handy, and have no idea what is used as a

binder to hold it in the cylinder shape.

Gloatingly,

Alan

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:19:49 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quiltfix [at] aol [dot] com

Kris re-posted a message describing a quilt with a diamond-shaped marking on

it’s back.

There are similar marks on the back of late-1800’s porcelain. I’m not

certain how it works, but the mark tells you, to the day, when the piece was

made. The person who owns the quilt may want to explore this in case the

maker actually dated her quilt in this way (go to the library and look for

value guides – this is pretty standard stuff). The way you use the mark to

date is not obvious (i.e. 10 for october, etc.). The letter was normally on

top of the diamond.

Let us know if this is what was done. It would be a really unique way to

date your quilt. Hey, maybe the quilter worked in a porcelain factory?

Alan

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:12:16 -0400 (EDT) | From: KBoxmeyer [at] aol [dot] com

Awhile back, there was some discussion about the Pennsylvanina Dutch. If

you are interested in this distinct ethnic group of people and their

ways, you may wish to attend:

Goschenhoppen Historian’s 31st Annual Authenic Pennsylvania Dutch Folk

Festival.

Friday & Saturday, August 8 & 9, 1997

New! Goschenhoppen Park

East Greenville, PA

Rt. 29, Montgomery County

Hours: Friday: 12n-8p; Saturday: 10a-6p

Donation: $6.00 adults, 12 and under free

Donation for parking

If you require further information, call (215) 234-8953

An article in the July/August 1997 issue of PENNSYLVANIA magazine says

this:

>> “Goschenhoppen (pronounced Gush’n hup’n) refers to ‘a geographical

>>region [long] established in the folk mind’ and encopmpasses the northern

>>half of the Perkiomen Creek and its tributaries in Montgomery County. The

>>area was settled in the early 18th century by Mennonite, Catholic,

>>Lutheran, Schwenkfelder, German Reformed, and Dunker farming and crafting

>>families. At that time a center of the Palatine German language and

>>culture, it has retained the influences of those early settlers and many

>>of their descendants live there today.

>> “The festival is sponsored and enacted by the Goschenhoppen

>>Historians, Inc., which was formed in 1963 to preserve the folk culture of

>>the area — food, dress, and practices — in its purest form. The society

>>shares and demonstrates these in its festival held every August in the New

>>Goschenhoppen Park in East Greenville.”

In the early 1990’s, this region also completed a Quilt Roundup in which

there were more than 1500 items documented. Nancy and Donald Roan wrote

a wonderful book describing and showing some of the beautiful quilts that

were documented in this round up. It is called, “Lest I Shall Be

Forgotten”; published by the Goschenhoppen Historical Society; copyright

1993. I found this jewel at my local library and don’t really want to

return it. I AM still reading it, though! <G> (Kris, do you sell this

book? I’ve got to put this on my wish list and need to know how much to

save for it!)

I am 1/4 PA Dutch and my great, great grandfather grew up in this region.

I excitedly anticipate attending this festival. Might I perchance meet

any of you there?

Hoping your day is not too busy to quilt something today!

Kimberly

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:35:04 -0400 (EDT) | From: HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com

What wonderful wisdom! Thank you so much for your insight, Jean. I heartily

agree with every word. I often wonder how many children would have their

mothers at home if the family was willing to do with less materially. I think

the kids are better off with someone investing in their lives rather than the

stock market.

For those of you single parents that don’t have a choice, please read this in

context and don’t take it in any way as criticism. You have all my sympathy.

Thanks again!

Penny

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:49:39 -0700 | From: suewho [at] juno [dot] com (Susanne Ellenberger) (by way of Quilting Heritage

ListServ <qrs [at] mail [dot] albany [dot] net>)

I am looking for people who are going to the Michigan Quilt Weekend in

September. If you are interested in going and need a ride, I have a van

and I am already registered to go. The weekend sounds really fun-filled

with lots of activities. E-mail me at suewho [at] juno [dot] com if you would like

a ride from the Ohio-Pa area.

Happy stitching.

Susanne Ellenberger

One Stitch At A Time :>)

In Ohio, where we have lots of wonderful quilters.

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:53:36 -0700 | From: Kathy D <DeSchuit [at] ix [dot] netcom [dot] com>

Here is the Buttermilk Recipe:

Dear All,

I�m sure Susanne would not mind me posting her Buttermilk Receipe for

you all to try too. I am posting the notes Susanne attached as well as

they certainly are helpful.

Susanne wrote:

” Had several thoughts. Instead of washing in Orvus, have you tried the

Buttermilk Recipe. You could cut down the number of washings to get it

clean the first time, or maybe, even the second. There is something

that magically happens when you mix buttermilk, water, and lemon juice

together. It all works naturally together with no damage to materials.

Susanne Ellenberger�s ala Suewho�s Buttermilk Recipe

1 Gallon Water

1 Quart Buttermilk

1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice

Let the quilt soak in mixture and then wash either with Orvus or mild

detergent. The brilliance of the restored colors will amaze you. “

Hope this helps,

Hiranya a la Chilly Willy from Down Under where its still cold & rainy.

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:18:12 -0400 (EDT) | From: JOCELYNM [at] delphi [dot] com

On 7-JUL-1997 00:24:37.6 Quilt97 said to JOCELYNM

> When someone says women and children in other countries are earning

>only $1.60 a day for quilting, that could be actually quite a bit of

>money in their local economy.

Elisabeth,

I posted that number re: Nike workers in Viet Nam. $3 is considered

a living wage in that area.

Jocelyn

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:36:01 -0400 | From: Diane McGuire <dianemcg [at] ici [dot] net>

Elizabeth in south TX mentioned Fiestaware dishes. I heard that many of

those early dishes had a high lead content in the brightly colored

glazes. Most antique collectors here tell us not to use them for food

for that reason. I know you can buy a test kit to determine if there is

lead in the glaze. My advise is to use them for decoration or serving

cold, dry foods (like crackers) or for underplates. Also be careful

about putting older dishes in the microwave. We sometimes forget what

life was like before all these modern conveniences.

I know this is off the quilt subject, but I use these dishes to

compliment my “feedsack” reproduction quilts, and I thought the health

risk was worth mentioning.

Diane in southeastern Massachusetts

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 22:05:24 -0400 | From: Diane McGuire <dianemcg [at] ici [dot] net>

Alan mentioned using chalk board chalk to get an old stain out of

quilts. I don’t know if it works, but I have a TON of chalk. All of our

schools have been changing over to dry markers on white board and they

can’t get rid of the old chalk. If anyone wants to try some, I will be

glad to mail you some.

Diane in Southeastern Massachusetts

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:41:17 -0400 (EDT) | From: “Carol L. O’Neill” <coneill [at] CapAccess [dot] org>

Diane and Elizabeth wrote about the high lead content in Fiestaware. I

happened to watch a show on HGTV yesterday where a Fiestaware expert said

the RED dishes should not be used because of the lead content, but he

didn’t say anything about the other colors being unusable.

BTW, also saw on TV that most calcium pills (for those of us in that age

group!) have an amount of lead ok’d by the US Government but considered

way too high for California health standards.

To make this a little quilt-related…would old-time natural dyed red

fabrics have had any lead residue?

–Carol in VA

(coneill [at] capaccess [dot] org)

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:50:35 -0700 | From: Arlene Goldberg <arlenegg [at] icanect [dot] net>

Alan, congratulations on your find! Was it a typo, or are the dates

really 1852 and 1982? If those are the dates, perhaps this is the

scenario: The top was made in 1852 and it was quilted in 1982. The

dealer, having acquired from someone who said she quilted it, may have

assumed it was made in the 30’s.

If the dates were both 1852, perhaps both women worked on the quilt or

one gave it to the other (i.e. mother and daughter or sisters.) *Or*,

maybe it’s the same person and that was her wedding day (maiden and

married names).

I hope you will investigate further and let us know what you find out.

This is really fascinating!

Arlene

arlenegg [at] icanect [dot] net

>… Came back to it after a while, and I took it down to look at. Saw a black > mark on it, looked closer, and about fell on my keester. “Fanny Maria (D?)arion, > Charleston, October 20, 1852” is what I mistook for a black stain!!!!!!

>There’s only one other signature on the quilt. Can’t make out the name , but

>it’s “Mrs. (?), Charleston, October 20, 1982”. Two separate handwritings

>(correct for the period), and their placement is intentional on the quilt

>(one at top center, the other bottom center. Has anyone ever seen a quilt

> with so few signatures on it?

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:46:48 -0700 (PDT) | From: Mary Cross <mbcquilt [at] web-ster [dot] com>

1. Today, my mail brought the Emergency Response and Salvage Wheel

from the National Task Force on Emergency Response: Safeguarding our

Culutral Heritage. Probably if I got one, so did many of you. Anyway, I

found it an interesting resource to have available. Plus, it was funded in

part by the National Endowment for the Humanities and the St. Paul

Companies. Clever, I thought. It’s geared to collections management and

historic homes, museums, etc. Every category is mentioned from textiles to

photos to books and paper.

Included with it was the toll free number for ordering

1-888-979-2233 with prices for profit organizations at $9.95 each for 1-9

and $8.45 for 10 or more and non-profit,governmental at $5.95 for 1-9 and

$4.95 for 10 or more.

2. Booksignings – Remember the luck Kathryn Cole had sending her

husband off to the “Padacuh of the gun world”. You could be next to get a

signed copy of Quilts and Women of the Mormon Migrations. I’ll be in

Evanston,Wyoming on July11, SLC at ZCMI Center on July 12th, Orem on July

18th at the Barnes and Noble, SLC at This is the Place State Park on July

22nd, Pioneer Memorial Museum on July 23rd, Ketchum,Sun Valley at Chapter

One on July 27th, and Boise on July 29 at the Book Shoppe.

If any of you are lurking in the area of Salt Lake, a special open

house reception is being held at the home of artist Cloy Kent in Bountiful

on July 12th from 7-9. Cheryl Doty is calling the quilt people. It would be

really to meet someone from the QHL there.

3. I have just received a vote of support for a Quilts of Methodism

exhibit and symposium next May at First United Methodist Church here in

POrtland. The symposium will be a first focused look at these quilts from

across the country. Plans are to have Ricky Clark present her work on quilts

as social history and Lee Porter to present her paper on the Baltimore Album

Quilts at the Lovely Lane Methodist Church Museum in Baltimore. This is a

really exciting opportunity for those of us in the West to hear these

outstanding students of quilt history present papers and to have the link

made between activity in the East in the 1840s to that of the West in the

similar time period -quiltwise, churchwise, and community developmentwise.

The symposium is scheduled for May 30th.

I’m continue to seek information about quilts made by and for

members of the Methodist Church across America. I seek documentation and a

good slide, if available.

Please email me directly because I’m checking off the list for the

next three weeks.

Thanks so much, Mary

Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 23:23:13 -0700 | From: nomad1 [at] ibm [dot] net

Hi Lynn in NC,

Sorry for taking centuries to reply to your question re my Tree Of Life

coverlet. Have been flat chat with kids sick, DH away etc etc. Trying to

catch up now with my emails etc.

From your email address, I gather you too are nuts about this design &

am thrilled that you have actually done research on it. Could you please

share it wih all of us on QHL, as I am sure many would find it

fascinating.

I got hold of mine from an English Company called Past Times that

basically reproduce things past. The huge panel came in either blues or

reds. I went for the reds which had smidgens of blue here and there &

also a beige sort of colour. There is alot of detail & its hard to

describe it fully without going on for ages. So if interested I am happy

to take a pic for you. Also I can give you the address of Past Times if

interested, so you can request a catalogue too. They sell all sorts of

gorgeous stuff, from jewellery to furniture to ceramics to needlwork

etc. Gorgeous, but all priced in pounds.

Hope this answers your question a little,

Hiranya from Sydney, Australia

Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 13:28:46 UT | From: “Brian Stewart” <JBCStewart [at] msn [dot] com>

Please send us all the address for the Past Times catalog. Sounds

fascinating! Jeannette in cool Colorado where the temperature when I got up

at 6AM was 38 degrees.

———-

From: nomad1 [at] ibm [dot] net

Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 12:23 AM

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