July 8 – 10, 1997
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Primary topics of this QHL Digest:
- What Does a Volunteer Curator Do? — A member asks what the job actually involves for a museum curator who isn’t a steady paid employee.
- The Pine Tree Block’s History — A researcher shares an article tracing the history of the Pine Tree quilt block.
- Fiestaware, From Factory to Glaze Worries — Fiestaware talk continues with a factory visit to Homer Laughlin and lingering questions about its lead and uranium glazes.
- Vermont Quilt Festival Announcement — A press release announces the upcoming Vermont Quilt Festival in Northfield, Vermont.
- Naming the Ladies Aid Quilts — Background on how various churches, including Free Will Baptist congregations, named and organized their Ladies Aid charity quilting groups.
- Trapunto Needles and Mormon Quilt History — Follow-up thanks for trapunto-needle sourcing tips accompanies a recommended book on quilts from the Mormon migrations.
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:34:16 -0400 (EDT) | From: Qltldy10 [at] aol [dot] com
Somehow I missed the original post re:Tree of Life- with AOL, it will
probably show up sometime next week. But I was flabbergasted, as I did a
quilt this year with the Past Times Tree of Life as the center medallion! It
was marketed as a tablecloth, and cost $50.00. Last year it was marketed as
a throw. The finished quilt is as close to a palampore as I’ll ever get.
The cloth is block printed in India, has a “hazlenutty” yellow as
background, and the traditional “scallops” at the base. I cut off the outer
border which was not printed well, used chintz scallops as the first border,
then pieced hourglass blocks with multiple different chinzes and repros,
trying to get more of that yellow in. It’s away being basted- I asked here
at the time, and also on the boards if someone would like to quilt it for me,
but got no takers. I will end up sending it to a sewing machine quilter who
is willing to tackle all that chintz. Beth in Maine
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:30:27 -0700 | From: bwblack [at] sprynet [dot] com (Barbara Black)
Just a few months ago I saw reproduction Fiestaware at Target, of all places. I
would assume that it would be lead-free and safe to use. I don’t know if they
carry it year-round, or if it is a seasonal item. I do recall that it was
reasonably priced.
Barbara Wunder Black
Ventura, California
bwblack [at] sprynet [dot] com
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 06:30:05 -0500 | From: princess [at] mdn [dot] net
Remember that “Holcomb” could also be a county’s name, not just a town’s. That
might bring up some more options.
Anne Sturtevant
Midland, Michigan
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:30:50 -0400 (EDT) | From: Baglady111 [at] aol [dot] com
Hey, Joan..you should see how great it looks with feedsacks..twice now I have
seen a feedsack exhibit..the used tape to make a ‘window’ affect..had old
timey table and chairs, samll hoozier cupboard, ironing board set up..and a
big old radio..remember when the radio was often in the dining room/kitchen
area?? Feedsack curtains, a dress on the ironing board, and a feedsack table
cloth/matching napkins..REALLY NEAT!! If anyone is traveling the valley down
thru Virginia (Shenandoah area) you’ll see exhibits as I described at four
different locations..email me for info..Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:35:28 -0400 (EDT) | From: Baglady111 [at] aol [dot] com
I am desperately trying to locate a place to order the 6″ trapunto needles.
This is my first effort at trapunto. Are the trapunto needles sharp or blunt
at the point? Nancy’s Notions appears to have a 5″ weaving needle that I
might be able to make work. I’ve searched all my catalogs and I can’t find
anything. Help!
By the way, I loved the Pennsylvania Dutch History that was posted.
Thanks!
Penny(HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com)
>>
Penny, I have forwarded your request to ADDIE at PINETREE..you can email her
at <aardvark [at] ime [dot] net> Jane of THE FEEDSACK CLUB
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 06:57:54 -0500 | From: LAURA SYLER <texas_quilt.co [at] airmail [dot] net>
Phyllis Twigg wrote:
>
> Some of you who visit the eBay auction site may have noticed the “1927
> Holcomb Ladies Aid Quilt” containing 291 names. I was the top bidder on
> that quilt and I have been trying to determine the origin of it. The
> seller bought it at a small country auction in Lavon, Texas,( population
> about 200), outside of Dallas She had no other information. My guess is
> that the quilt was once a fund raiser for a church. The quilt is signed in
> embroidery, “Made by the Holcomb Ladies Aid 1927-28.” I am also guessing
> that the church was (is) located in a town named Holcomb. I have found 9
> states containing a town named Holcomb: Mississippi, Georgia, Missouri,
> Kansas, West Virginia,Illinois, Oregon, Washington, and New York. If anyone
> reading this post is from an area near a town named Holcomb, I would
> appreciate any feedback.
> Of course, the church or group could have been named Holcomb for another
> reason. I remember my mother and my aunt being members of the Ladies Aid
> Society at church. We were Lutheran. Later that same group called itself
> the Missionary Society. I don’t know if other denominations used the name
> Ladies Aid for their women’s group. Please pass along any information that
> would help me check this out.
> Thanks !
>
> Phyllis
Dear Phyllis: I live about 20 miles or so from Lavon…The town is
notorious ( I mean it made AAA to 50) for speedtraps and baitshops!!!
One thing that may hender your research is that the “town of Holcomb”
may be underwater. Lake Lavon is a Corps of Engineers lake, empounded
probably in the late 40’s to 50’s as a water source for the north Texas
region. When Lake Lewisville to the East was empounded it absorbed over
25 communities ie: McCurley & Spanish Oaks. You might try to contact the
Corps or find a map of north Texas from that time period. I’ve checked
the most current issue of “The Roads of Texas” and the “Texas Atlas &
Gazetteer” but there is no listing for Holcomb. BTW, if you like to
travel the back roads these two publications as well as the R.O.
Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, & New Mexico are wonderful additions to
your travel map collection.
Good luck on your research. Keep us posted.
Laura
Richardson, Tx
texas_quilt.co [at] airmail [dot] net
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 05:10:15 PDT | From: “Nancy Behrman” <fwfan [at] hotmail [dot] com>
I am sending the address for our new web page:
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/featherweightcare it gives a description of
our workshops and a supply list. If you have trouble bringing it up let
me know. It’s a little rough, but I wanted to get the information out
there to everyone. I just need to figure out how tho get it to do
paragraphs. Next priority will also be to get our workshop schedule up
so everyone knows where we will be holding our classes. Well I’m off
thanks for listening. Nancy
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:25:26 -0700 | From: nomad1 [at] ibm [dot] net
The Past Times address as requested is:
Past Times
Witney, Oxford OX8 6BH
ENGLAND
Their catalogues are fun & tempting so beware!
Beth, How wonderful, I think what you did with yours is just great. I
too thought of using it as a medallion, but at the rate I am going I
will never get time to do it until I retire!!…I am 35!
Hiranya from Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:14:13 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quiltfix [at] aol [dot] com
Hi y’all.
I’ve been corresponding with a quilter in Minneapolis who needs his
grandmother’s quilt washed. He’s very afraid to wash it himself – worrying
that it might disintegrate on him. I’ve asked for some details on HOW it’s
dirty, but thought I’d ask if any of you are in that state (Minnesota) and
maybe interested in helping.
Also, I went to quilt guild last night and took my new quilt with me. HAd to
share it with others who’d like it as well as me. I had them guess the age
(the guesses started at 75 y.o.). Then, when I made a comment about all that
quilting holding in the hand-made batting, someone was confused. She had no
idea that at one time pre-made batts didn’t exist! I was dumbfounded (I
always see this as a very basic history fact). Anyway, I then gave an
impromptu lesson in hand-made batts. Whee!
Alan
I also have tried to find someone who could restore an antique rug (there was
someone I’d run into who did this), but she won’t fess up to it. Maybe she
will later.
Alan
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:18:24 +0100 | From: The Lesters <jeanntom [at] utkux [dot] utcc [dot] utk [dot] edu>
I have a lot of new flour bags. Cooper’s Best, which I got in Nebraska,
was still putting flour in printed bags– at least a couple of years ago.
I can’t remember the name of the mill, right now.
Jean in Tennessee
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:08:57 +0100 | From: The Lesters <jeanntom [at] utkux [dot] utcc [dot] utk [dot] edu>
I ate off of the Fiesta for growing years and Mother gave them to me when I
got married. We had a very large collection. I gave them to a woman in
the hills of Kentucky. Boy, don’t I wish I had kept them! My father was a
chemist, in Oak Ridge and tested them. He found no lead but the old orange
ones were made with a glaze that used uranium for the color. There was not
enough radiation to do any harm, just an interesting fact.
Jean in Tennessee
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:36:43 -0500 (CDT) | From: Lisa Erlandson <erland [at] cooke [dot] net>
Hi! I need some help from someone familiar with the San Fran area. My
family is possibly planning a short trip there in a few weeks. What good
quilt shops are around and easy to get to? Also, we are booked into a place
called “The Californian”, but the travel agent only had pictures of it, no
personal knowledge. It was recommended by a hotel placement service in S.F.
Just makes me nervous to not have heard of it before! Also, I know the AQSG
is in S.F., any other museum exhibits, etc. that anyone can recommend?
Thanks for any help you can give.
Lisa in N. Texas
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) | From: HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com
Jane:
Thank you so much for replying to my request concerning trapunto needles. I
was suprised that they were so hard to find. Your kindness is much
appreciated.
Penny (HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:29:25 -0500 (CDT) | From: hwhite [at] iphase [dot] com (Heather White)
Hi, Phyllis & QHL,
Am delurking with a couple of ideas about your Ladies’ Aid quilt. The
first thing I thought of was the Anne of Green Gables books–didn’t they
mention Ladies’ Aid? I’m not sure of the denomination involved. Seems
like there must be an historian around who specializes in women’s role in
the church who could help you. Perhaps you could call your local
university’s religion department, or perhaps better, a Lutheran
university’s religion department, for help.
As far as Holcomb, I would check into a couple of things. I’m wondering
if perhaps there wasn’t a Holcomb, Texas, in 1928, but no longer. I don’t
know if this is true everywhere, but here in Dallas, it’s my understanding
that if the city surrounds a township, it can swallow it up–the people in
the township have no choice in the matter. Only if the township has a border
with another township can it remain independent. So it may be that Holcomb was
absorbed, or another possibility is it’s been renamed since then. I
wonder if there are any streets named Holcomb in Dallas? Then again,
maybe your quilt was simply moved 🙂
Good luck with your search!
Heather
—
“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.”
–Soren Kierkegaard
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:10:12 -0400 (EDT) | From: QuiltCat26 [at] aol [dot] com
An excellent resource book on Mormon quilts is “Quilts & Women of the Mormon
Migrations – Treasures of Transition” by Mary Bywater Cross published by
Rutledge Hill Press. AQS carries this book, and it is a very readable
historical accounting of Mormon women and their quilts.
Nancee-Jane
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:41:35 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quiltfix [at] aol [dot] com
If memory serves me right, the old red Fiesta dishes were made with uranium
(or another radioactive material) to get the color. It’s quite rare because
after people realized what radiation would do to you, they got scared and
threw them away, sometimes burying them in the back yard ! It’s my
understanding that a Geiger counter will actually go off when placed near
these dishes, even though the radiation is very low grade and not at
dangerous levels. They really should be for display, not food.
As for lead, you must be cautious with all old dishes and with any
contemporary dishes made outside of the US. Until more recent times, the
lead content of glazes was not regulated and can leach into foodstuffs.
Arlene, about my new quilt, that was a typo. They’re both dated October 20,
1852. How I made THAT typo, I don’t know. I really like the idea of it
being a personal wedding quilt, though I kinda vote for it being between two
sisters or such. If it were a wedding quilt, where is DH? I’d expect he’d
be included on the quilt.
Alan
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:22:37 -0400 (EDT) | From: KBoxmeyer [at] aol [dot] com
To all interested in the Pine Tree block:
I found a wonderful article on the history of this block in:
THE QUILT DIGEST published by The Quilt Digest Press, San Francisco
copyright 1986. ISBN: 0-913327-06-9
The article is called: PINE TREE QUILTS by Suellen Meyer
This was very nice reading with lovely pictures to compliment the writing.
I do believe that I may include this block in one of my chocolate
collections. I believe it will work up very nice.
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:50:13 -0400 (EDT) | From: KirkColl [at] aol [dot] com
In a message dated 97-07-09 10:03:58 EDT, you write:
<< Penny(HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com) >>
We have the 6″ trapunto needles. $4.25 for two. I can put them in an
envelope so the postage would be $1 instead of or normal $3.50 minimum.
Regards,
Nancy Kirk
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:57:43 -0400 (EDT) | From: Baglady111 [at] aol [dot] com
OK, here is a question for all..what is the job of a curator who is NOT
EMPLOYED STEADILY by the museum? Let’s say, someone like Barbara Brackman..I
often see where someone is curating an exhibit for a museum..what is their
job? Do they get paid? Do they set up the exhibit or only provide it? I
also know they are not there at all times..some run for weeks/months..any
input on this?? Jane
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:32:35 -0400 (EDT) | From: Baglady111 [at] aol [dot] com
I know that some are being made..saw some in NE but the texture was nothing
like ours..some have a blend in them also..worth checking out what you
saw..jane
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 21:19:37 PDT | From: John & Cinda Cawley <cawley [at] epix [dot] net>
When my father sold the house where we grew up I found fiestaware
just laying around in the cellar. I grabbed it and have used it ever since
as our everyday dishes. I don’t think I’ve done any lasting harm to the
family and I did get a lot of mileage out of threatening people with the red
plate. I don’t remember my mother ever using them; she was a great one for
change so probably replaced them before I was old enough to notice. When I
found them I did feel that she was giving me one more gift altho she had
died years earlier.
Early tomorrow morning I’m heading south on I-81 to the Shenandoah
Valley with two friends to see the feedsack exhibits and to add another
entry to my list of presidential birthplaces visited (Woodrow Wilson–have
been to his last home in D.C. which is conveniently located on R St. just a
few doors from the Textile Museum). We’re staying overnight in Staunton
and hitting the antique shops on Friday. Will tell you all about it when I
get back.
Cinda
Name: John & Cinda Cawley
>
>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:24:01 -0700
>From: Marina Salume <Marina.Salume [at] CORP [dot] SUN [dot] COM>
>Subject: Re: markings on an old quilt
>
>*the backing is a rougher weave of cotton (or maybe linen) with a muslin
>*color, and has some markings which are embroidered in blue: there is an “S”
>*– a large, open diamond — a roman numeral II — and a roman numeral III.
>* they are arranged with the S on top (or on bottom), the diamond shape
>*opposite, and the III on the right, and the II on the left (again if the S is
>*on top). i thought maybe it was some religious symbol.
>
>People used to number their linens so they could keep track of them–
>and sometimes large items like quilts were sent out to someone else to
>wash so the numbers were a way to make sure you got your own stuff back.
>I would guess the numbers are for one of these purposes. Also, ladies used
>to have printing blocks (like our modern rubber stamps) made so they could
>mark their linens with their own special imprint–they also marked friendship
>blocks and albums with them (this was during the Victorian era).
>
>I have an old quilt that has some letters and numbers printed on the
>binding, my grandmother owned this quilt and my aunt says the markings
>were put there by the laundry service she used! (indelible ink 🙂
>
>–marina
>
>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:54:23 -0400 (EDT) | From: KBoxmeyer [at] aol [dot] com
A hearty thanks to those who submitted their lists of 10 favorite quilt
blocks for my informal survey. And INFORMAL this is! Including myself,
there were 17 contributors and more than 70 different blocks considered
for this survey.
I realize that these results may be contestable as I have taken a liberty
in combining some of the blocks that are very similar in design according
to the reference tools I had on hand (which I realize are not Brackman’s
but haven’t save enough in my “cookie jar” for that one yet!):
849 Traditional Patchwork Patterns: A Pictorial Handbook by Susan Winter
Mills
The New Quilting & Patchwork Dictionary by Rhoda Ochser Goldberg
The number next to the block’s name is the number of times it appeared on
the lists.
And now, (DRUM ROLL PLEASE), here are the top 15 finalists!
Ohio Star 9
including: missouri star, martha washington’s star, variable star
Log Cabin 8
Basket 8
including: basket w/ curved handle, cakestand, any basket block, fruit
basket
Nine Patch 6
including: split nine patch
Churn Dash 6
including: hold in the barn door
Sawtooth Star/ Feathered Star 5
Double Wedding Ring 5
Bear’s Paw 5
Drunkard’s Path 4
including: Love Ring
Friendship Star 4
Sunbonnet Sue 3
Lemoyne Star / Lone Star 3
Jewel Box 3
Grandmother’s Flower Garden 3
Dresden Plate 3
If you wish a complete list, please email me privately. Thank you.
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:37:44 -0500 | From: Maury Bynum <maurybynum [at] textileconservators [dot] com>
Quilt Festival]
NORTHFIELD, Vt., July 10 /PRNewswire/ — The picturesque college town of
Northfield, Vermont, becomes the Quilt Capital of the World on Friday, July
18, when more than 8,000 quilt enthusiasts descend on the town of
6,000, marking the festival’s 21st anniversary. The largest and oldest quilt
event in New England kicks off on Thursday evening with the Champagne Preview
in the Shapiro Field House on the Norwich University campus. The festival
includes antique quilt exhibits, contest quilts, appraisals, workshops,
lectures, a fashion show of quilted clothing and merchants mall and runs from
July l8 – July 20.
<p>
This year’s festival includes special exhibits by two of the quilt world’s
most diverse and celebrated quilters: Ruth Reynolds and Ruth McDowell. Art
quilter Reynolds is known for her character “Riva” quilts, which depict the
trials and tribulations of the modern woman. From mammograms and thong
underwear to domestic chores and girlfriend gossip, Reynolds’ discourse comes
to life through the Riva quilts.
<p>
A special retrospective of the quilts of contemporary artist Ruth McDowell
will also be on display. McDowell is an internationally recognized
professional quilt artist with more than 250 quilts to her credit. She is the
author of three books on quilting, and she teaches and lectures nationally and
internationally.
<p>
“Quiltmaking in America is experiencing a true renaissance,” says Quilt
Festival Chairman Richard L. Cleveland. During the festival, more than 300
quilts will be displayed for viewing and more than 75 classes and lectures
will be led by nationally known quilt experts.
<p>
Both new and antique quilt appraisals will be conducted for $25 per quilt
on Friday and Saturday by appraisers Carolyn Fernandez and Gerald Roy of the
Appraisal Certification Review Committee of the American Quilt Society. More
than 50 quilt-related vendors will be on site during exhibit hours. This
year’s festival will include several rare stenciled quilts, including a circa
1830 quilt recently acquired by the Bennington Museum.
<p>
The festival is open to the public July l8 & 19 from l0 a.m. – 6 p.m. and
July 20 from 10 a.m. – 4 p.m. Admission is $6 for adults, $5 for senior
citizens and children under 18 are free. Tickets are available at the door.
For more information call 802-485-7092.
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:23:52 EDT | From: LIZ SWARTZ <swartze [at] clpgh [dot] org>
Oddly enough, some friends of mine and I are visiting the Homer Laughlin
factory in East Liverpool, OH, where they manufacture fiesta ware. They have a
factory store and museum. I understand that there is such demand for the new
stuff that they can’t produce it quickly enough. It is carried by department
stores and lots of restaurants still use it. And yes, it is lead-free! There
are quite a few pottery outlets along I-70 near Zanesville, OH where you can
fabulous deals on the new fiesta ware.
Anything you want me to find out about at the museum?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:28:18 -0400 (EDT) | From: KBoxmeyer [at] aol [dot] com
Greetings all!
Are there any vendors from QHL going to QSVC Marketplace in Montpelier Vt
July 17-20?
After QSVC, what is the next major quilt show(s) on the list?
Kimberly
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:42:19 -0400 (EDT) | From: Quiltfix [at] aol [dot] com
Hi, y’all.
I have a potential presentation to do for the local DAR, on patriotic quilts.
Haven’t spoken with them yet (the presentation is in Jan or Feb), but I want
to start preparing. I’m looking at doing a presentation of quilts that are
patriotic, but not necessarily red, white, and blue. I’m wanting to show the
patriotic activism of women in the 1870 – 1950 era. If you have a photo, or
know where there may be an appropriate quilt I might be able to
use/photograph, I would appreciate the input. I will be willing to sign
whatever forms are necessary to assure the owner of the photographs/quilts
that I only want the right to utilize the photos for this presentation (I
anticipate that this will become a standard presentation in my repetoire).
This is also my first presentation. Any suggestions you may have in going
about this will be appreciated. Thanks.
Alan
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:59:04 -0400 (EDT) | From: Palampore [at] aol [dot] com
Southern Free Will Baptists had Ladies Aid as their name for the ladies of
the church up to the 1970’s. I bet it’s a fairly generic term. Lynn in NC
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:49:01 -0400 (EDT) | From: Baglady111 [at] aol [dot] com
Holcomb is a well known name in the south..Jane
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:26:21 -0400 (EDT) | From: HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com
Thanks to the Kirk Collection for the info on the trapunto needles. I will
email you shortly.
Also: AOL’s reference section contains a division called The American
Collection. If you search this collection (I specified documents only) with
the word “quilting”, you will find some excellent historical data relating to
the bees, assembling, etc. of quilts mostly in the late 19th and early 20th
century. All of it is in the words of the women themselves. I found it
fascinating. A good deal of it is from the Library of Congress.
Penny
HPQuilting [at] aol [dot] com
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:51:53 -0400 (EDT) | From: JOCELYNM [at] delphi [dot] com
On 8-JUL-1997 22:36:52.5 Qltldy10 said to JOCELYNM
>yellow in. It’s away being basted- I asked here at the time, and
>also on the boards if someone would like to quilt it for me, but got
>no takers. I will end up sending it to a sewing machine quilter who
>is willing to tackle all that chintz. Beth in Maine
Beth,
I had to chuckle at the ‘no takers’. Having reached the age at which
one begins to realize that one cannot possibly complete all the projects one
has collected instructions to make, the only thing that compells me to do
something for someone else is love or money. <G> And considering our recent
discussions about the price of, and value of, quilting…..welllllll….I
doubt you have that much money! <G>
If, on the other hand, you CAN pay me $25 an hour….contact me by
return email. <BG>
Jocelyn
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:52:36 -0400 (EDT) | From: JOCELYNM [at] delphi [dot] com
On 9-JUL-1997 09:16:09.0 Quiltfix said to JOCELYNM
>guess the age (the guesses started at 75 y.o.). Then, when I made a
>comment about all that quilting holding in the hand-made batting,
>someone was confused. She had no idea that at one time pre-made batts
>didn’t exist! I was dumbfounded (I always see this as a very basic
>history fact). Anyway, I then gave an impromptu lesson in hand-made
Alan,
The lack of awareness of the populace is amazing. <G> I had a friend
who, wearing a historical Russian costume, went into a store to make a
purchase. The clerk asked him about the costume, and he told her all about
it. She asked where he had gotten it, and he told her that he and a friend
had made it. She exclaimed, ‘That doesn’t look like the sort of thing you
could MAKE! That looks like the sort of thing you’d have to BUY!”
He came out chortling, ‘Does she think God makes everything that’s sold
in stores?” <G>
Jocelyn
